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Colleague’s wife upset about our friendship, am I being naive?

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Bingowashisnameoh1 · 14/03/2026 09:32

I have a fabulous, kind colleague at work, he’s great fun to be with and I feel very lucky that we are friends. We share lots in common and could honestly natter for hours. There are many other lovely people in the department who are good friends too. It’s not exclusive.
Out of the blue his wife called me late one evening, I didn’t answer and there was no message. I assumed from his wife as the caller profile photo was of the two of them. We have never met so it was odd that she would even have my number. I spoke with him about this and he explained she’s been upset about our friendship for a while and had seen some of our messages.
I’m happily married and have no intention of leaving my family. I understand how she must feel and I’m sorry, but it really it is just friendship. There is no physical attraction there. Friends have always been very important to me and I think in life when you find such a friend, it’s a rare thing and their gender shouldn’t matter.
I have confided in a friend and she thinks I am playing with fire. Am I being naive?

OP posts:
UraniumFlowerpot · 19/03/2026 20:34

Why would you want to be friends with someone who is so unconcerned about his wife’s feelings? And I don’t think it’s normal for you to be so unconcerned either. Whenever I’m friends with a man of course I think about any partner and making sure I don’t cross any boundaries. If I found out his wife was upset about any part of our friendship of course I’d back off a bit. It’s weird that you’re being so defensive about all this and really suggests you do see it as more than friendship.

Zerosleep · 19/03/2026 20:36

SquishySquashyWishyWashy · 19/03/2026 20:22

I hope you don't find yourself in her shoes a few years down the line. As much as he's just your friend, your friendship is putting strains on their marriage. Although it is not your fault, I personally would not want to be a part of that.

Totally agree. OP needs to back off, very far off and discontinue the friendship. It’s nasty behaviour and she knows it and doesn’t care.

DoesthislookgoodOnMe · 19/03/2026 20:37

Wow you simply don’t give a shit, I hope karma serves you what you are dishing out to the wife!

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/03/2026 20:51

Felt like harassment ....... OP your comments make me lol

I feel like this has got to be a bit of a wind up now because Idk how anyone can be so audacious/naive/whatever toward another persons spouse.

She clearly was calling to tear you a new one and you knew it wasn't going to be an invite to afternoon tea and didn't want to face the music of what she had to sing.

I've been the friend to married men and trust me when I say that they all wanted to have sex with me. Some were content with just friendship, others I unfriended because it was the right thing to do. Fwiw I didn't shag any of them because I wasn't interested in them for that but I loved the attention they gave me because it made me feel good about myself (wrongly) because I had very low self esteem and worth.

Maybe a mirror check??

Sunshinemoonlightboogie · 19/03/2026 20:54

@Bingowashisnameoh1 your entitlement is oozing out of your update. YOU felt ‘harassed’ oh you poor poor sausage! You are trying to shove yourself into someone’s marriage because it makes YOU feel good! You seem to think you’re right to your ego kibbles from this man trumps his wife’s right to feel safe in her marriage. You’re both utterly pathetic!

Nikinoo69 · 19/03/2026 20:57

So, OP, what did your husband say when you showed him all your messages between you and your colleague and also this post, which on the whole shows you’re in the wrong?

Mumoftwo8519 · 19/03/2026 21:03

I have a friend like this. She will break up with her boyfriend because he cheated on her, but she will insist on staying his friend and make it clear to all future boyfriends that she still
speaks to her exes and they need to be okay with that. When her exes get into new relationships she then cant understand why their new girlfriends eventually have a problem with her and she in turn feels very wounded because they’re “just mates” ..but of course secretly loves it. She just craves attention from men.

Thewookiemustgo · 19/03/2026 21:11

“I can understand why she could have been upset from a few of them as when I showed my friend she said they could have been viewed as playful. But it wasn’t flirtatious, it was just silly banter.”

So you can understand that his wife is upset, so you must be able to understand why she doesn’t like you.
He’s your good friend, your friendship with him is causing trouble in his marriage, as are your ‘playful’ messages, yet you don’t care about the state of his marriage? You don’t feel that if he hasn’t stepped back a bit, that as his friend who care about him and his marriage, it might be a good idea to suggest this to him? In your shoes I would tell him I was backing off with the messaging outside of work, doesn’t mean you can’t be friends at work but it’s hardly the end of the world to just concentrate on your own husband in the evenings and at weekends, is it? as it’s causing him trouble at home.
Yes, it’s his marriage and he needs to deal with it, but don’t pretend that you haven’t now been dragged into it, her being upset is actually quite a lot to do with you, with your choices and your behaviour as well as her husband’s. You could claim to be nothing to do with their marriage, right up until his wife started complaining about you. No, it’s not all you and he needs to rethink his behaviour and the extent to which he turns to you in the evening and weekends, but you’re his close friend, she’s upset and doesn’t like you because of what she sees as your inappropriately close relationship with her husband, you disregard and excuse this by saying it’s his marriage, his problem, but you’re not helping, you’re not in the least bit concerned about how upset she is about you, all you seem to care about is your close friendship with him.
You distanced yourself from describing this as an emotional affair, but seem to have an obsession with this man and your friendship to the point of writing a post about it here, where you listen to opinions but then justify yourself and show you don’t think you’re being naive at all, you already know the answer to that.
Add frequent out of hours evening and weekend contact, personal gifts, not caring about how his wife feels, or having the least interest in meeting her or getting to know her, (l know all my close friends’ spouses and would hate to think I was causing them a moment’s grief), excusing it all with ‘not my problem if his wife doesn’t like it’ and not the slightest hint of worry that you might be helping him cause trouble in his most important relationship, which is or should be his marriage to her, smacks more and more of an OW’s attitude, even if you aren’t one yet.

GabriellaFaith · 19/03/2026 21:48

Bingowashisnameoh1 · 19/03/2026 20:19

Yes, I do think that it is between him and his wife.
And I didn’t answer her call because, quite honestly, I know she doesn’t like me. It felt a little like harassment actually.
I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

Harassment for 1 phone call you didn't answer 😂

Pessismistic · 19/03/2026 21:50

Bingowashisnameoh1 · 19/03/2026 20:19

Yes, I do think that it is between him and his wife.
And I didn’t answer her call because, quite honestly, I know she doesn’t like me. It felt a little like harassment actually.
I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

Hi op did your friend tell you she doesn’t like you? Have you even met her? Maybe you should meet as a foursome so she can decide because you sound like your not giving up the friendship so unless the husband grows a pair of balls it’s likely they will split up and I’m sure she will want to name you even though you don’t need to do that anymore but you could try reassuring her.

TellySavalashairbrush · 19/03/2026 21:56

Definitely take the hint and leave it alone. For you it may be harmless friendship, she is obviously picking up something else from her husband. It would be very unkind to continue to message outside work when she has made it clear how upsetting she finds it.

BeKhakiReader · 19/03/2026 22:07

Come on. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself.

Be better.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 19/03/2026 22:16

OP, why would you think his wife calling you is harassment ? Seems to me she’s asked him what’s going on between the two of you, isn’t convinced by his answer and was calling to ask you the same thing. I don’t think it was her not liking you that made you ignore the call, l think it was more that you’re perfectly well aware that your friendship with her husband has crossed into inappropriate and is making her uncomfortable, and you know you can’t justify it.

Everything you’ve said here demonstrates that there is a need for frequent contact and if l were the wife l would be questioning where that need is coming from. You said upthread that your friend has other female friends and his wife doesn’t have a problem with them. So why have you not stopped to ask yourself why it is that she does have a problem with you ?

l’m wondering just how much your own husband is aware of the extent of the friendship and what’s happening in this man’s marriage because of it. Have you told him the wife tried to call you ? I seriously doubt it.

CompootorCrime · 19/03/2026 22:19

The wife needs to get away from your toxic friendship.

You are both abusing her, sidelined in her own marriage, poor woman, even your girlfriend has asked you to show mercy towards the wife and still you persist and defend your right to terrorise her.

Cruelty in action.

SunshineAndSandalsMakeMeHappy · 19/03/2026 22:37

Bingowashisnameoh1 · 19/03/2026 20:19

Yes, I do think that it is between him and his wife.
And I didn’t answer her call because, quite honestly, I know she doesn’t like me. It felt a little like harassment actually.
I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

Yet here you are still not taking responsibility for how YOU and her DH are making her feel due to how you have both behaved. You sent him “playful” messages, you were flirting with him so don’t backtrack now. Did you show your husband the messages at the weekend like you said you would? I’d be interested to hear his reaction to them. If you’re truly sorry for how this woman feels you’ll crawl away embarrassed. No wonder the woman doesn’t like you after buying her DH gifts and sending him “playful” (flirty) messages. You should be ashamed of yourself but women like you seldom are, you won’t be happy until you’ve wrecked their marriage will you? Then you’ll be faux surprised, wide eyed asking people “what have I done, he was just my friend.” 🙄

TwistedWonder · 19/03/2026 22:42

Me me me me me it’s all about meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

A lot of posters at moment with a severe case of main character syndrome thinking the world revolves around what they want

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 19/03/2026 22:50

TwistedWonder · 19/03/2026 22:42

Me me me me me it’s all about meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

A lot of posters at moment with a severe case of main character syndrome thinking the world revolves around what they want

And such lack of empathy.

Calliecarpa · 20/03/2026 05:46

One call = 'harassment'. LOL.

You never discuss anything personal with this man, it's all just cutesy banter that's such fun fun fun! for you both, yet somehow you know that he's unhappy in his marriage and that his wife doesn't like you.

Oh OP, you really are on the wind-up, aren't you?

What did your husband, who totally does exist, no question, say when he got back from his weekend away at work and you showed him the messages between you and your 'friend'?

mumuseli · 20/03/2026 07:30

Calliecarpa · 20/03/2026 05:46

One call = 'harassment'. LOL.

You never discuss anything personal with this man, it's all just cutesy banter that's such fun fun fun! for you both, yet somehow you know that he's unhappy in his marriage and that his wife doesn't like you.

Oh OP, you really are on the wind-up, aren't you?

What did your husband, who totally does exist, no question, say when he got back from his weekend away at work and you showed him the messages between you and your 'friend'?

Yes OP - how do you know that his wife doesn’t like you? Have you had chats about this with him - I suppose you must have done. I hope those chats were respectful.

Snarchipelago · 20/03/2026 08:43

Bingowashisnameoh1 · 19/03/2026 20:19

Yes, I do think that it is between him and his wife.
And I didn’t answer her call because, quite honestly, I know she doesn’t like me. It felt a little like harassment actually.
I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

Oh do give over OP, one phone call that you didn’t even answer is not “harassment”. You’re being ridiculous.

If he’s such a good, special, important friend you’d be concerned about him blowing up his marriage over what you claim to believe is a non-issue. But you’re not worried about that. All you care about is whether you can continue your fun playful ‘banter’ when he’s at home with his wife - knowing full well that your boundary-crossing messages are causing tension in his marriage. What kind of a crappy friend would behave like that!?

You said you were going to speak to your husband about this when he got back. What was his opinion? Did you show him all the messages, or did you decide against that (seeing as it sounds like there’s a good chance he’d not be best pleased with your flirting banter either?)

Gloriia · 20/03/2026 08:48

Bingowashisnameoh1 · 19/03/2026 20:19

Yes, I do think that it is between him and his wife.
And I didn’t answer her call because, quite honestly, I know she doesn’t like me. It felt a little like harassment actually.
I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

One call is not harassment. Constantly messaging a mm when you know his dp has a problem with it could be.

HalzTangz · 20/03/2026 08:54

Tacohill · 14/03/2026 09:50

If she’s uncomfortable with their friendship then she needs to speak to her DH about it.

Its not for OP to manage their relationship for them.

She did speak to the husband weeks ago, he continued the messaging that we now know for flirty and playful. At this point the op and the friend needs to take a look at the friendship, as to me it's looking more like an emotional affair. The wife clearly thinks that two hence ringing to find out the truth

HalzTangz · 20/03/2026 08:56

Bingowashisnameoh1 · 19/03/2026 20:19

Yes, I do think that it is between him and his wife.
And I didn’t answer her call because, quite honestly, I know she doesn’t like me. It felt a little like harassment actually.
I really am sorry for how she feels but there is nothing romantic happening here. He is just my friend.

She doesn't like you because you are sending flirty and playful messages to her husband, how would your husband feel if he saw the messages?

Reevester · 20/03/2026 09:01

Your husband doesn’t know for a reason. If there’s nothing you think crosses a line, talk to him about it rather than MN. The mans wife wants to fight for her relationship. You don’t want to end the friendship because you want to see where it goes. You’re both to blame.

Gloriia · 20/03/2026 09:02

HalzTangz · 20/03/2026 08:56

She doesn't like you because you are sending flirty and playful messages to her husband, how would your husband feel if he saw the messages?

I don't think we know, wasn't the ops dh 'working away' and she was going to show her 'playful' messaging on his return? Maybe he won't care, which would explain a lot.

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