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Sudden Breakup, So Hard

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BlindsidedandBurned · 06/02/2026 17:35

Hi I just want to get my feelings out, maybe a bit of sympathy too!

I had been with my bf for over 2 years, both mid 40s, not living together but fully committed. We’ve recently had a few tricky issues but had talked and were resolving them. I’ve supported him through a difficult time at his work and recently he’s done some hurtful/thoughtless things, which I felt showed he didn’t value any of my efforts for him or our relationship. I considered then ending it because I felt so devalued. He also became very passive and not interested in planning dates in recent weeks, I put it down to work stress but now I see that was probably him checking out. However he said all the right things when I raised the hurt I’d felt, so I was trying to forgive and forget, figuring we were both trying and wanted to get back on an even keel. I know his actions weren’t matching his words so I was guarded but trying.

Last week he was making plans with me for the next few weekends, making long term commitments, all seemed ok. Then all of a sudden last night he came over as usual and just says, not in so many words and kind of going round the houses, but basically it’s over.

Totally his right of course, but he’d given no sign at all of that decision having been made, at some point between earlier this week booking events with me, and last night when he announced it. He let me think we were going out over this coming weekend, let me think he was coming over for dinner as normal last night etc etc. We even had an intimate conversation about our sex life over the weekend, not phone sex but a very personal chat. According to him last night, he knew he was done already at the point of that phone call. But yet on Monday he was booking an event with me and on Tuesday I suggested a place to go this weekend which he seemed to enthusiastically agree to. But then just dropped that bombshell seemingly out of nowhere.

We talked for a couple of hours after, basically him unloading all of his ‘I don’t know what I want in the future’ ‘I can’t see me being able to give you the effort you deserve’ angst and pretty much using me as a therapist while I sat there fairly stunned. I understand he can choose not to be in any relationship for any reason, but none of his given reasons made any sense and I asked if he’d met someone else, or if I had done something that had suddenly changed his feelings, apparently not. And he couldn’t tell me why he’s allowed me to go on thinking one thing and acting fine while he’s decided prior that we were done, which seems so deliberately deceptive. I’d always thought of him as being an honest man and now I’m just questioning everything - was any of it real or was he always just going through the motions?

it’s so hard for me to process this. I know I have to accept his choice but then he was saying he still loves me, so attracted to me, but just can’t give me what he thinks I need and might want to travel the world and also thinks he might want to have kids (which he always knew was not on the cards for me and assured me he had no interest in having children - we are both mid 40s! So it’s a little late to be thinking that) It was like he threw everything at the wall to see what stuck and said he wanted to give me clarity and closure, but he actually gave me nothing but confusion.

I know I’m genuinely better off without his lacklustre attitude and I will eventually be fine with or without a partner, but his weird way of ending things has really hurt and it’s hard to reconcile the way he has done it with the man I thought I knew.

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BlindsidedandBurned · 17/02/2026 09:30

@AnotherNaCha that’s interesting about narcs, yes he did seem deep - but I see it was only relative to previous exes! Looking back I can see how he withdrew when I needed him emotionally, and I just told myself I was expecting too much. I’m trying to see a positive in it all, and I think it’s shown me that I still have work to do. Why did I accept the bare minimum and why did I allow his words to convince me when I could see nothing changing? So I’m trying to focus on what I can take from this experience, rather than focussing on sadness or anger. I can’t really look back with fond memories because I have no idea what was real or not! I assume not much.

Mine had also given me a photo frame about a month before ending it. Must be a trigger for these guys! But he’d given it me in a really horrible dull wood frame and as I opened it, he’d looked at my photo shelf and said ‘oh I should have got you a colourful one’ as everything in my home is bright, frames are all brightly coloured, unusual design. It was as if he’d never seen my decor before, and I felt like I could actually see him taking it in for the first time. And we spent much of our time at my place! Later I saw the same frame in his house (with a photo of his family in, not me!) and thought hmm he’s got something that HE likes and not thought any further about what I like. Then beat myself up in therapy asking ‘why did I only focus on the negative about the gift, what’s wrong with me, why am I so hyper picky?’ But actually it was part of a pattern of me being not truly known, and once I’d seen it I couldn’t unsee it. He never actually saw me, and then Xmas solidified that, and he could never be held accountable. I’m sorry you’ve gone through it too, it’s so destabilising.

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AnotherNaCha · 17/02/2026 10:47

@BlindsidedandBurned so weird about the photo frame! You mean with a pic of you two in it? It’s almost like a “here’s something to remember me by” before they go. Awful 😢

Yes mine couldn’t handle it when I was sick or busy, that’s what triggered the ending. Also he’d never speak up about his emotions and needs so I ended up taking all that space with mine and thus “suffocating” him.

It does show us the work we need to do, but equally they are not easy to spot these types especially when totally normal at the beginning.

Sadly I still feel bonded to mine but am gradually getting better. Thanks for the shared experience - it’s helpful

BlindsidedandBurned · 17/02/2026 12:11

@AnotherNaCha yes it’s really helpful to see it’s a pattern for these types, rather than it being something we did wrong. I know my friends are being very supportive but I don’t think they truly get how disorienting the blindside feels. It’s like for them it’s oh that’s sad, you’ll feel better soon, it’s a break up, he wasn’t worth it, you will move on. But it’s not quite as straight forward psychologically when it comes at you so unexpectedly - even if you knew things were on their last legs, or if things seemed great.

I am glad I’m learning about it now. Obviously I’m not perfect but I did give it my all and always openly communicated, and I thought he was doing too, but now I see it’s always been very surface. Whenever I felt uncomfortable I dismissed that as me being anxious or unreasonable. I remember saying to him once I didn’t feel fully part of his life, and him saying I’d met his family and friends and was welcome in his life, but I had often the feeling there was something else I was unable to access.

Yes the photo frame he gave me had us both in. The frame I saw in his house he had chosen to put photos of his family in, but it was the same style of frame that he’d bought me. I joked he’d got them on a 2 for 1 deal. I noticed that it matched the dark, dull wood tones in his place. Nothing in mine is dark. It was a small thing, and I told myself just to appreciate the nice gesture, but I realise now I was picking up on that ‘I’m unseen’ feeling. I read somewhere that these types will seem attentive at first, but won’t or can’t see below the surface and dismiss any part of you that doesn’t suit the image they have of you. There were other things that sort of seemed nice but a bit ‘off’ somehow and I just thought it was me being hypersensitive or critical, but I think he never fully saw me and never fully let me see him, adding to the feeling of insecurity. And I’d rather be alone and sane than anxious in a half relationship I’m being told is great and serious etc!

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AnotherNaCha · 01/03/2026 09:07

@BlindsidedandBurned hey just checking how you’re getting on with moving on from this?

Hopefully better than me! I’m still in mourning and have reached out a few times and he’s responded like an emotionless robot. It still hurts like hell!

BlindsidedandBurned · 01/03/2026 13:02

Thanks for checking in @AnotherNaCha it’s awful that you are getting robotic responses. I hope you are doing ok. I think I’m doing a bit better now. It’s been almost a month and I am sleeping and eating a bit better. Think my body and brain are coming out of the shock. I’m just taking it a day at a time though, much as I wish I could speed it up. It seems such a short amount of time and yet endless as well. It has really helped educating myself about avoidant tendencies.

its weird, I don’t miss his low effort but I do miss that feeling of having someone, our little routines and habits, and missing the someone that he seemed to be at the start of it all. When I wake up alone I miss that closeness, but then I remember all the times we were stuck in tension with the push-pull and don’t miss that.

I ended up texting him after about 3 weeks because I was so sick of carrying it alone. He reassured me that it was very real and he wasn’t numb, he missed me etc etc but still wouldn't say why he’d continued making future plans, right up to on the day of, he just sent a lot of waffle that actually explained nothing - just that ‘raising doubts when I noticed them wouldn’t have helped.’ Which is so wild to me! He truly couldn’t see that you need to communicate in a relationship. So I realised it really wasn’t me, it was him. He said he hoped we would be friends but I’ve not responded since. I’m assuming at some point, if not already, he’ll be onto a rebound and I don’t need to hear or see that. I’m trying to be easy on myself and keep busy and I am just hoping that time will heal!

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Cambridgedropout · 02/03/2026 16:12

Following with interest as I’m in the same situation. Ex also avoidant.

The more you read about it the more textbook it all is…

It doesn’t make it feel any better though.

AnotherNaCha · 02/03/2026 19:52

I can’t quite understand why it’s so hard! Even though I’ve read practically everything about it. Basically, they want comfort. We want growth. They can’t or won’t do that. And are shame sensitive so hyper sensitive to any perceived slight or energy shift.

Mine was SO deep and profound and it’s the worst heartbreak of my life. And I’m still imagining he’ll come to his senses with space !

BlindsidedandBurned · 02/03/2026 21:02

@Cambridgedropout I’m sorry you’re going through this too. Did you know your ex was avoidant, or is it something you’re piecing together afterwards? It’s absolutely crushing.

@AnotherNaCha as far as I can understand it, they are wired this way due to deep childhood trauma. What seems so simple to you and me obviously isn’t to them, but I can’t quite wrap my head around it. My ex, call him C, seemed so calculating in that last week or so with all the future planning, whilst knowing it was over - why do all that? It’s disgusting, and when I feel I start to miss him, I hold onto that thought. He was never the man I thought, so I’m missing…nothing.

I lead with honesty and openness and expect others to do the same. Not to say I’m naive, I’m very careful and mistrustful of men generally when dating, and with C I watched and waited and didn’t fully trust him or let him fully in for months. I assumed he was lovebombing, but it seemed to go on too long (however now I see that’s par for the course with avoidants). He managed to sustain it just long enough, then once he had me hooked and he wanted to label it serious, love, forever commitment etc etc, the effort slowly decreased as it became more real and I was the boiling frog, and here we are.

Recently and quite interestingly I caught up with my previous ex, I dated him for almost a year before C, let’s call this one D. I was researching avoidance and I realised D also fitted the traits. I guess I have a type that I attract and am attached to. That’s obviously what I need to work on! Anyway he has recently also been very abruptly discarded by his ex, about 6 months ago, so he’s more than had his karma now.

He’s absolutely broken. When he and I ended things it was more mutual. I’d spotted the disconnect, interpreted it as a slow fade, and washed my hands of him to be blunt. I had more energy for dating back then and had lots of options for dates, so didn’t worry too much about all of D’s mixed messages.

He is now a changed man. Lost nearly 3 stone and he wasn’t a large man to start with. Up at dawn hiking solo. Borrowing dogs for walks. He’s been reading ‘Attached’ and doing some self reflection, therapy, immersing himself and actually apologised to me for all the disconnecting avoidant shit he pulled when we were dating. Because I wasn’t fully invested in him I hadn’t noticed or it hadn’t bothered me too much. He was confusing yes, but we both knew it was never going to be serious, so I didn’t become anxious or try to pull closer, I just moved on. He has now realised how avoidant he was back then, and explained it to me a bit from his perspective. We got together with me being upfront about not wanting children and him knowing he did want marriage and a family, it was pointless starting anything of course. However our stupid dopamine and chemistry was very strong and we agreed to just start seeing each other casually, I was not too emotionally invested knowing we had an expiration date, and it was fun for a while.

He said there was one particular moment he suddenly felt overwhelmed with love and closeness to me and that ‘I felt like home’. Apparently he realised he just had to shut it down, it was too good and ‘that level of greatness couldn’t ever last’ is what he says. Instead of enjoying it for what it was, he pulled right back. He rationalised it to himself about it being the kids thing, our futures couldn’t align etc. Yet here we are, almost 4 years on, he still has not made any progress towards the wife and kids, heading to his mid 40s. Still saying maybe by the time he’s 50 he’ll have his house full of children.

The kids thing wasn’t an issue for C either, until it suddenly was. I think these types of men either subconsciously or deliberately date women who for one fundamental reason or another, are ultimately incompatible, probably unknown to the woman the whole time. They say they want what she wants to get the closeness they crave, but under it all know it’s not going to happen. It’s safer for them. They don’t have to fully reveal themselves because they know deep down there’s a huge obstacle, so why bother being fully vulnerable, keep up a veneer. Until they can’t any longer. Then they can walk away blaming that reason, I don’t/do want kids, I want to travel, I want XYZ, that one reason that was staring them in the face the whole time right from the start. Then they are not actually looking at themselves and why they are picking people they can’t align with, it’s all down to XYZ, not me, never me. There must be thousands of women out there looking for exactly what these men say they want - so why choose someone who has absolutely opposite life goals? It is most definitely they who are deeply flawed, not us! Obviously this is just my experience with 2 men but it seems odd they both had similar reasons for ending things.

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AnotherNaCha · 03/03/2026 08:22

@BlindsidedandBurned wow that’s so interesting and informative!

Have realised with me that this relationship shone a light at exactly where I still have work to do with my own attachment. I really fell into his “love” then lost sight of myself, focused on him, trying to be perfect and then began starting to ignore the unease his distance (and also explosive pushback when I tried to speak about issues, and then his long withdrawals) was having in my gut. He def lost respect for me and I wasn’t the same independent calm person he’d met. But he also totally instigated that in me!

Unfortunately I am focusing on where I went wrong and sadly sent a “I love you so much M etc” message which he responded to with “Hi A, I have family staying so distracted. Not sure you want me to respond, do you have a question?” Quite cruel really the shutdown. Taught me a lesson though.

Am still hoping he wakes up to himself like your ex has! But also hoping my attachment fades as I focus back on myself.

Yeah all the plans and seeming OK in the lead up to the break up is also crazy-making. Beware those bearing framed pics!

BlindsidedandBurned · 03/03/2026 09:00

@AnotherNaCha I did exactly the same with C. Started out as a super independent strong woman and at some stage totally lost sight of myself. I realised this and the last few months was reclaiming myself, he felt the shift and knew I was almost done. I think now all his talk the week before the discard was him trying to regain power so that he could be the one to walk away. Otherwise the timeframe just makes no sense. However my therapist said she worked with avoidant who made fast decisions and then just retcon everything to provide evidence for it. So when he said he knew 7-10 days before telling me, that might not have been true. He might have been planning things in the hopes that his fear and disconnect weren’t real. Either way, he didn’t bother to communicate anything, so for that he’s still despicable and I won’t forget it or forgive it.

I ignored my unease also, so many times, I raised discussions with him when I felt it, leaning into him. Assuming he was understanding that, but I now see he just deflected or said the right things, then nothing changed. His withdrawals were always due to something believable eg work, competing in his hobby etc so I never questioned further. I became anxious because my body had picked up on the disconnect between what he said and what he did, but my brain had rationalised everything to ‘love is sacrifice’, love is staying when things are tough. I started therapy because I thought my anxiety getting worse only stemmed from issues with my childhood and marriage, and I proactively wanted to resolve it so I didn’t bring it into my new relationship. but I can see now that while those old issues affecting me is true, also C’s behaviour was triggering it.

it’s so natural to think ‘where did I go wrong?’ And to reach to them with love. His reply to you is absolutely brutal. Needlessly cruel. Did you reply?

Replaying the moments you’d have done things differently to figure out ‘what did I do?’ seems to be a normal process for people on the end of a discard, I definitely did it for a week or more non stop. Still am on and off now. But I saw a therapist on insta saying basically no matter what you did, this would have happened anyway. Your ex knew it and would never have communicated it. It could have been a few weeks later, or months, but there would always have been a moment they suddenly exited. And there were tips on helping your brain to close the loop which I try to remember. It so bloody hard!

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Cambridgedropout · 03/03/2026 14:10

BlindsidedandBurned · 02/03/2026 21:02

@Cambridgedropout I’m sorry you’re going through this too. Did you know your ex was avoidant, or is it something you’re piecing together afterwards? It’s absolutely crushing.

@AnotherNaCha as far as I can understand it, they are wired this way due to deep childhood trauma. What seems so simple to you and me obviously isn’t to them, but I can’t quite wrap my head around it. My ex, call him C, seemed so calculating in that last week or so with all the future planning, whilst knowing it was over - why do all that? It’s disgusting, and when I feel I start to miss him, I hold onto that thought. He was never the man I thought, so I’m missing…nothing.

I lead with honesty and openness and expect others to do the same. Not to say I’m naive, I’m very careful and mistrustful of men generally when dating, and with C I watched and waited and didn’t fully trust him or let him fully in for months. I assumed he was lovebombing, but it seemed to go on too long (however now I see that’s par for the course with avoidants). He managed to sustain it just long enough, then once he had me hooked and he wanted to label it serious, love, forever commitment etc etc, the effort slowly decreased as it became more real and I was the boiling frog, and here we are.

Recently and quite interestingly I caught up with my previous ex, I dated him for almost a year before C, let’s call this one D. I was researching avoidance and I realised D also fitted the traits. I guess I have a type that I attract and am attached to. That’s obviously what I need to work on! Anyway he has recently also been very abruptly discarded by his ex, about 6 months ago, so he’s more than had his karma now.

He’s absolutely broken. When he and I ended things it was more mutual. I’d spotted the disconnect, interpreted it as a slow fade, and washed my hands of him to be blunt. I had more energy for dating back then and had lots of options for dates, so didn’t worry too much about all of D’s mixed messages.

He is now a changed man. Lost nearly 3 stone and he wasn’t a large man to start with. Up at dawn hiking solo. Borrowing dogs for walks. He’s been reading ‘Attached’ and doing some self reflection, therapy, immersing himself and actually apologised to me for all the disconnecting avoidant shit he pulled when we were dating. Because I wasn’t fully invested in him I hadn’t noticed or it hadn’t bothered me too much. He was confusing yes, but we both knew it was never going to be serious, so I didn’t become anxious or try to pull closer, I just moved on. He has now realised how avoidant he was back then, and explained it to me a bit from his perspective. We got together with me being upfront about not wanting children and him knowing he did want marriage and a family, it was pointless starting anything of course. However our stupid dopamine and chemistry was very strong and we agreed to just start seeing each other casually, I was not too emotionally invested knowing we had an expiration date, and it was fun for a while.

He said there was one particular moment he suddenly felt overwhelmed with love and closeness to me and that ‘I felt like home’. Apparently he realised he just had to shut it down, it was too good and ‘that level of greatness couldn’t ever last’ is what he says. Instead of enjoying it for what it was, he pulled right back. He rationalised it to himself about it being the kids thing, our futures couldn’t align etc. Yet here we are, almost 4 years on, he still has not made any progress towards the wife and kids, heading to his mid 40s. Still saying maybe by the time he’s 50 he’ll have his house full of children.

The kids thing wasn’t an issue for C either, until it suddenly was. I think these types of men either subconsciously or deliberately date women who for one fundamental reason or another, are ultimately incompatible, probably unknown to the woman the whole time. They say they want what she wants to get the closeness they crave, but under it all know it’s not going to happen. It’s safer for them. They don’t have to fully reveal themselves because they know deep down there’s a huge obstacle, so why bother being fully vulnerable, keep up a veneer. Until they can’t any longer. Then they can walk away blaming that reason, I don’t/do want kids, I want to travel, I want XYZ, that one reason that was staring them in the face the whole time right from the start. Then they are not actually looking at themselves and why they are picking people they can’t align with, it’s all down to XYZ, not me, never me. There must be thousands of women out there looking for exactly what these men say they want - so why choose someone who has absolutely opposite life goals? It is most definitely they who are deeply flawed, not us! Obviously this is just my experience with 2 men but it seems odd they both had similar reasons for ending things.

The sad thing is I knew it. I just thought I could manage him. I also eroded my own sense of self and became so much more anxious and destabilised.

I went on a date with someone else the other day and it was great. He said so much and we instantly connected. Now he’s a bit cold on text and leaves a long time to reply and I’m wondering if he’s also avoidant…

How the hell do you spot them? And are there just too many? I’m in my forties and I wonder if most of the available men in this age group are actually single for this exact reason.

Despair!

BlindsidedandBurned · 03/03/2026 15:04

@Cambridgedropout I would imagine that there are a huge number in the dating pool for this reason. Apparently dating apps are perfect for avoidants - when things get too real, after that honeymoon phase, instead of fixing and repairing they can just dip out, get back on and continue swiping. Obviously I have my own baggage, so I always tried not to judge too harshly about past relationships, but both C and D had never had a long term relationship or lived with a partner, that is a huge red flag for avoidant leaning types. I’d stuck at my marriage for a long time so we were married about 10 years before divorce, and a few years dating and living together before that. Now instead of giving the benefit of the doubt I’d want to be sure that any future partner had shown that he could also be in a LTR and had at least attempted to put the work in. I gave C a pass because he said he had a therapist but it was only much later I discovered he just rarely attended!

There’s quite a few therapist/coach people on insta giving tips on essential questions to ask and how to properly vet new potential partners for avoidance so I’d take their advice next time, have a look if you haven’t. My algorithm is flooded with it now! Someone further up this thread recommended coach Ryan on YouTube. The main thing seems to be stay in an observing mode and match their energy, so not judging based on whatever chemistry is activating your attachment. Words and action must align. Don’t engage in push pull, call it out and see how they respond. I’ll see if I can add some images here that really made sense to me. C used to pursue harder when I matched his low energy, and always came back full force after withdrawing, which I of course fell for thinking he adored me, but now I realise it was probably more the thrill of the chase for him. And I responded to that push-pull because it’s all I’ve ever known from childhood and all serious relationships, I obviously view chaotic energy as ‘love’ so that’s something I’ll be working on.

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BlindsidedandBurned · 03/03/2026 15:09

Also this post I found quite useful

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVPNPNxifds/?img_index=8&igsh=MXV6d2dsNm81eml4Mg==

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Cambridgedropout · 03/03/2026 16:02

This is really interesting.

So the guy I went on a date with - great chemistry, I really liked him, lots in common, lots of kissing - is now being a bit less keen. Offered to meet up tomorrow night (I can’t) I suggested next week. He says he’s away for a week next week as he’s booked something last minute.

I can’t tell if our schedules just aren’t aligning it something in his tone just isn’t very keen. He leaves hours between messages. No niceties.

I’m tempted to say:

‘Look, I like you and I’d be up for seeing you again. I also sense you’ve got a lot going on, so I’ll leave it up to you to get in touch if and when you’d like’

But is this shooting myself in the foot? I think he has a very stressful job. Since avoidant ex I’m trying to name my needs more and not chase. But it’s hard! Is this a bit intense after one date? Do I sound too desperate? I’m guessing myself all the time and my anxiety over how to perform is getting worse since ex.

BlindsidedandBurned · 03/03/2026 18:10

It’s really hard to tell after one date. Obviously you can’t expect immediate replies at this stage, but if it’s a noticeable difference in energy to how he was previously then that would concern me! Of course he might genuinely be busy or might be having other first dates. Might be avoidant. Might not want to commit if he’s got holiday plans. Who tf knows what goes on in their heads 😂 If you’re already feeling anxious about how to play it that might be a sign you’re reacting to chemistry and/or the feeling of wanting to be chosen again, rather than genuinely liking him or seeing if he’s a good fit for you. Also depends if you’re dating with intention or just for fun! Did he suggest a date for when he returns? If he hasn’t, then I wouldn’t chase further suggesting other date options but I also wouldn’t say you’ll leave it up to him to get in touch, it’s almost passive like you’ll just wait around for him. But I also wouldn’t know what to say either! Ask chatgtp?

No offence, but how long was it since the discard? Are you really ready to dive back in, or is trying dating part of that process for you? Not saying you shouldn’t be, just curious. Friends have been saying I should ‘see who else is out there, get over him by getting under someone else haha’ etc etc but they don’t understand how destabilising the discard was. It’s only been a month, I can’t imagine trying to date any time soon.

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Cambridgedropout · 03/03/2026 20:51

On the one hand no, probably not ready to dive back in because my fear of being rejected again is still high.

But I also can’t wait around forever. I do worry I’m just trying to fill the void with someone tho. I miss the connection.

I’ve left it for now. I’ve signalled that I’m warm and open to another date. I won’t overthink it.

I sometimes think that becoming more aware of your patterns makes you become too introspective.

BlindsidedandBurned · 04/03/2026 11:53

@Cambridgedropout that’s fair enough, keep your options open. I definitely am far too introspective. I want to really understand avoidant behaviour so I don’t fall for it again, but also don’t want to get overwhelmed and stuck. I’d like to feel optimistic in the future but I just see so many people putting up with shit from partners that I think ‘probably better off without that!’

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Catza · 04/03/2026 12:23

Cambridgedropout · 03/03/2026 16:02

This is really interesting.

So the guy I went on a date with - great chemistry, I really liked him, lots in common, lots of kissing - is now being a bit less keen. Offered to meet up tomorrow night (I can’t) I suggested next week. He says he’s away for a week next week as he’s booked something last minute.

I can’t tell if our schedules just aren’t aligning it something in his tone just isn’t very keen. He leaves hours between messages. No niceties.

I’m tempted to say:

‘Look, I like you and I’d be up for seeing you again. I also sense you’ve got a lot going on, so I’ll leave it up to you to get in touch if and when you’d like’

But is this shooting myself in the foot? I think he has a very stressful job. Since avoidant ex I’m trying to name my needs more and not chase. But it’s hard! Is this a bit intense after one date? Do I sound too desperate? I’m guessing myself all the time and my anxiety over how to perform is getting worse since ex.

It is a bit full on after one date. No need for a lengthy message. Just say "have a nice trip. Let me know if you'd like to meet when you get back". It communicates the same but without extra pressure. He may or may not get back to you. But you are not shooting yourself in a foot. If he is genuinely too busy, he will arrange something after his trip. If he doesn't feel drawn to you, no amount of fluffy language is going to change that.

Janey90 · 18/03/2026 20:37

Cambridgedropout · 02/03/2026 16:12

Following with interest as I’m in the same situation. Ex also avoidant.

The more you read about it the more textbook it all is…

It doesn’t make it feel any better though.

When I first split with ex-DH, I spent hours and hours trying to analyse why. I think it’s natural after a break up. But none of this ever gave me any answers, apart from that he didn’t want to be with me any more.

As time goes on, the exact reason why (not that you’ll ever be sure) becomes less important.

But as @Cambridgedropout rightly says, none of it makes you feel any better

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