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Is this a me shaped problem

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VictoriaLynn · 06/02/2026 10:23

My current partner is not great at planning time together but when we actually get time together it's always great.
He goes on regular football trips and once a year on a 3/4 night lads holiday with a few younger men in their 30's/40's....he's 56.
My line has always been I don't mind what he does in his own time if he can still prioritise time for us.
My divorce has only just come through and my ex is being a manipulating bully about the terms and is being horrible to me and our adult children. I need support now and I'm not the type to ask.
My partner flew on his annual lads trip this morn. I raised with him on Tues that I felt he could have made a better effort to tie down time for us before he left, he had made a few half suggestions which wouldn't have worked given our differing schedules. He got defensive then and just said he had suggested options and wouldn't be pursuing me if I kept rejecting his suggestions and that he's done doing that.
I just feel he is being immature and defensive. He didn't even check how things are with us. Now I have a complete ick about his trip even though I'm normally so easy going about these things.
Am i just taking it out on him because things are difficult for me rn...

OP posts:
VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 14:23

Missj25 · 07/02/2026 14:19

So how much time do you actually see of him , spend time together ?

Twice a week usually

OP posts:
Missj25 · 07/02/2026 14:31

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 14:23

Twice a week usually

Overnight , or just go for a bite to eat or whatever?

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 15:03

Missj25 · 07/02/2026 14:31

Overnight , or just go for a bite to eat or whatever?

He works alternate weekends so usually overnight at his on the Saturday of the weekend he is off and then the other week it could be an overnight in mine or just a bite to eat
The Sunday of the weekend I stay over is usually sort as he heads off at 11 then for football

OP posts:
Missj25 · 07/02/2026 15:14

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 15:03

He works alternate weekends so usually overnight at his on the Saturday of the weekend he is off and then the other week it could be an overnight in mine or just a bite to eat
The Sunday of the weekend I stay over is usually sort as he heads off at 11 then for football

How long you guys together?
I don’t know OP , from what you’re saying you actually only see him every other weekend, am I correct in saying that ?, & only for 1 night , then he goes off to football Sunday morn at 11.
It sounds like a very casual relationship.

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 15:34

Yes @Missj25 it certainly feels that way. We have very different work schedules and he's involved in a local football team...his son plays for them so I feel like I'm navigating 2 football schedules, he goes then to watch a national team with the lads in the the bar every week and his work which can change
I really like him so I'm OK with that, we're are only 10 months together but I just don't feel he is intentional or enthusiastic enough about our time. If he was I have no issue, as I've said before I set out from when we decided we were official that i have no issue with how he spends his free time as long as he is intentional about our time and he agreed. In that sense I feel I have communicated my needs from the outset so I never expected him at any point to read my mind .

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CloseEncountersOfTheLoveKind · 07/02/2026 15:38

NowStartingOver · 06/02/2026 11:21

Are you seeking a partner or a councillor/therapist?

Each to their own, but yes- I’d want a partner and a councillor/therapist in one package.

im lucky enough to have met that person 25 years ago when I was in my late forties.

He is not without his own problems, but he’s always there for me, and would never intentionally make me feel “not worth it”.

We actually talk to each other and share our woes as well as our triumphs.

if we can be a listening ear to each other, it helps.

it might not change the problem, but just being able to talk, or have a right old cathartic rant about the shit in life, is so cleansing, and it makes us so much “tighter” as a couple.

So I believe OP can want better than she currently has.

Her current partner is not meeting her needs, so like other pp, I believe she’d be better to let this man go.

Then she can concentrate on getting her life back together, without feeling miffed that the person who should have her back, is more concerned with his own selfish life.

OP, don’t settle for someone you wish behaved differently.
im not saying he won’t one day wake up and see whst he’s doing you’re upset you, but it’s pretty unlikely.

Take care

MsPavlichenko · 07/02/2026 15:51

VictoriaLynn · 06/02/2026 17:46

Thanks again. Lots of different opinions and I can see merit in most.
We are adults is right, we both have different needs and expectations. It would seem that unfortunately in our case he wants a single life with the benefits of a partner when it suits his schedule whereas I want a partner, that doesn't mean owning or controlling someone. At the minute we see each other twice a week but if he has anything else on our time will always be the casualty.
I'm not trying to say he's wrong but maybe our values and expectations dont align.
His eldest son asked me at Christmas would I speak to his dad about his social life in general and his lads football and lad trips. I listened and said I would leave it to him to talk to his dad as it wasn't my place and never mentioned it again. I get on well with his children but would never overstep the mark. This isint additional information, my gut always is that adults behave and communicate like adults. He has often sidelined me to do his own thing and that's a big part of my frustration. Partners aren't there to be picked up and dropped as it suits when you are in an established relationship. Only my opinion though.

This suggests more than different approaches in my opinion. It suggests to me a selfish man who prioritises his own wants and needs over those of others in his lives, including his own children. That’s unlikely to be a recent thing. He has probably always been like this , not just in romantic relationships.

I know men like this, one in particular. He has had numerous partners. He has many positive attributes, but the relationships usually end because essentially he is selfish, and the women get fed up.

TwistedWonder · 07/02/2026 16:03

Sorry OP but the more you post the more I think you’re letting the fact you really like him so much blind you to the reality that’s this really is just a casual thing not a relationship and you’re just filling a gap in his otherwise busy life. He's throwing a few crumbs when it suits him and you’re clinging to the hope it turns into something more than sex and a bit of company. It won’t this is his life.

This sort of casual arrangement would suit some but it’s not what you’re looking for so you need to decide if this is enough for you or not

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 16:22

Aw thank you @CloseEncountersOfTheLoveKind Thats exactly the kind of partnership I aspire to be in, not perfect but present for each other. Again I'm so happy that you too have found yourself a good one.

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VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 16:29

MsPavlichenko · 07/02/2026 15:51

This suggests more than different approaches in my opinion. It suggests to me a selfish man who prioritises his own wants and needs over those of others in his lives, including his own children. That’s unlikely to be a recent thing. He has probably always been like this , not just in romantic relationships.

I know men like this, one in particular. He has had numerous partners. He has many positive attributes, but the relationships usually end because essentially he is selfish, and the women get fed up.

You could be right there. Its obviously early days for us so we're still finding out about each other but yes I've thought immature and selfish at times too.

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thestudio · 07/02/2026 16:30

Newyearsameme26 · 06/02/2026 11:52

There are plenty of men who fit this stereotype and obviously its hard to judge if he is one of them. The lads, football, booze etc. are the priority. Bit of sex and female company on the side with you...great life!

I agree with this - it's not that he's not communicating or being 'intentional' (not quite sure what you mean by that in this context) - it's that his football mates and beer are more important to him than you are.

He likes a bit of female admiration and sex but that's really all you are. He will be thrilled that he's found a woman who doesn't ask anything of him at all.

He's never going to be a partner in any meaningful sense and you're never going to be a team.

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 16:33

Yes @TwistedWonder I do agree that my feelings are clouding my view here. Thats partly why I sought the opinions of others here and am grateful for them.

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VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 16:34

Thanks @thestudio I fear you are correct unfortunately

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Coconutter24 · 07/02/2026 16:54

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 13:23

I will definitely give this thought as several posters have suggested I'm the issue here

It just sounds more like you’re on different pages/stages in the relationship. You sound like you think he is or want a partner and from his end you’re his girlfriend. Neither is wrong it just doesn’t work when you see it differently

Missj25 · 07/02/2026 17:45

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 15:34

Yes @Missj25 it certainly feels that way. We have very different work schedules and he's involved in a local football team...his son plays for them so I feel like I'm navigating 2 football schedules, he goes then to watch a national team with the lads in the the bar every week and his work which can change
I really like him so I'm OK with that, we're are only 10 months together but I just don't feel he is intentional or enthusiastic enough about our time. If he was I have no issue, as I've said before I set out from when we decided we were official that i have no issue with how he spends his free time as long as he is intentional about our time and he agreed. In that sense I feel I have communicated my needs from the outset so I never expected him at any point to read my mind .

OP if you say you don’t feel he is enthusiastic or intentional enough about your time together, well that’s saying you don’t feel he is enthusiastic enough about you .
I’m saying that very kindly by the way .
I understand your work schedules collide , but if you feel he could be spending more time with you without it interfering with football , work .
You do need to sit & chat with him .You don’t want to be with someone who fits you in when it suits him so to speak x

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 19:43

Missj25 · 07/02/2026 17:45

OP if you say you don’t feel he is enthusiastic or intentional enough about your time together, well that’s saying you don’t feel he is enthusiastic enough about you .
I’m saying that very kindly by the way .
I understand your work schedules collide , but if you feel he could be spending more time with you without it interfering with football , work .
You do need to sit & chat with him .You don’t want to be with someone who fits you in when it suits him so to speak x

Exactly, I feel he does just that, fits in couple time around all his other activities but not in an intentional way, just as and when and as I said in busy times it will always be our time that suffers.
I suppose really he has already shown me what he is offering...If I don't change it im choosing it.

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Missj25 · 07/02/2026 20:46

VictoriaLynn · 07/02/2026 19:43

Exactly, I feel he does just that, fits in couple time around all his other activities but not in an intentional way, just as and when and as I said in busy times it will always be our time that suffers.
I suppose really he has already shown me what he is offering...If I don't change it im choosing it.

Yes , well it does sound like he doesn’t prioritise your relationship ever .
That wouldn’t be for me , it sounds like it’s not for you either .
You do sound like fwb more than anything, now that suits lots of people aswel , but if it’s stability you’re gearing towards OP , & it is I’d say ( I’d be the same) .
You’re not going to get that with him .

NowStartingOver · 07/02/2026 20:56

OP, it sounds like you just want everyone to agree with you and tell you that he needs to change his ways and then everything will be great.

You both appear to have agreed on an arrangement, but then are unhappy with the results. You knew in advance about his holiday and his Sundays and then seem upset when they actually happen.

The depth of this relationship is very casual, accept that or move on.

daisychain01 · 07/02/2026 21:04

VictoriaLynn · 06/02/2026 11:44

Thanks @Beamur. I have been clear only very recently that while I'm independent by nature and like him have lots of my own stuff going on I value communication and intention too. He is only too well aware of what I'm going through and by his own admission is very easy going and very happy to go with the flow as long as he doesn't have to organise anything. I've communicated to him that while I appreciate that i also need him to step up and take the initiative every so often and he agreed.
Basically by the time he thought of discussing time together there actually wasn't an opportunity available to us that suited us both.
I think I have been clear about what I need and want but take your point about being clear too.

This all sounds too much like hard work.

I'd use his lad's trip away to break things off.

The thought of a grown man of 56 going on a lads holiday would really put me off taking the relationship any further.

i hope things with your ex resolve themselves. Your bf doesn't sound like he has the emotional capacity or motivation to give you support.

ELCismyspiritnana · 07/02/2026 21:19

I think you can be independant and have your own life as well as prioritising time with your partner. In my experience men who are really into someone and want a partner will move other things around in order to fit that person into their lives and spend time with them
I really couldn't be with someone who didn't prioritise spnding time with me, as I want a full partnership and a shared life. It sounds as though you are similar OP. You dont need to be in each others pockets to still have your own interests.

VictoriaLynn · 08/02/2026 00:40

NowStartingOver · 07/02/2026 20:56

OP, it sounds like you just want everyone to agree with you and tell you that he needs to change his ways and then everything will be great.

You both appear to have agreed on an arrangement, but then are unhappy with the results. You knew in advance about his holiday and his Sundays and then seem upset when they actually happen.

The depth of this relationship is very casual, accept that or move on.

I really don't need people to agree I was merely looking for opinions thanks.

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SortingItOut · 08/02/2026 09:03

Have you posted about him before?
All of this sounds so familiar but was a while ago so the 10 months together would not be true but of course no one has to give exact details.

If you're not the same lady maybe you're with her ex😱

In this situation no one is wrong. You both have wants and needs and they can both be different...its whether fundamentally there is more positives to this relationship than not and only you can decide.

What do you have in your life already? Friends, hobbies etc

What do you want in a partner?
Once you know this you can either speak to your boyfriend and ask for change/compromise or walk away and find someone who is more aligned with your wants and needs.

A partner should enhance your life and not be your life 🩷

VictoriaLynn · 08/02/2026 09:41

Yes @SortingitOut i agree that neither is wrong and given that I have spoken to him about it before and that it is still early days for us I have decided to tell him when he gets back that it's not working for me and kindly end things. There are many positives but i agree with the posters who have said its more like a casual/fwb set up and thats not for me. Think its best not to take up any more of each others time. Thankfully i also have a busy life so im very happy in myself. Thanks.

OP posts:
Missj25 · 08/02/2026 10:03

VictoriaLynn · 08/02/2026 09:41

Yes @SortingitOut i agree that neither is wrong and given that I have spoken to him about it before and that it is still early days for us I have decided to tell him when he gets back that it's not working for me and kindly end things. There are many positives but i agree with the posters who have said its more like a casual/fwb set up and thats not for me. Think its best not to take up any more of each others time. Thankfully i also have a busy life so im very happy in myself. Thanks.

Morning OP .
Who knows how this will go , might be the wake up call he needs being honest 🤷🏻‍♀️.
You just want some more commitment .
Anyway , whatever way things work out for you ,
best of luck with it all x

CelticSilver · 08/02/2026 10:41

'Never allow someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option.' Mark Twain.

I hope you find someone who doesn't shy from showing you every day how lucky they are to be with you.

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