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Did anyone make peace with the fact that DH doesn’t help as much as he should?

115 replies

FryingPam · 04/02/2026 09:00

Just that really…if your DH didn’t do as much as he should with sharing the load of looking after your child but was a kind husband and loving father otherwise, did you manage to make peace with the fact that childcare is mostly on you and continue the marriage?

I don’t want to divorce for many reasons, but we are past the point of discussions, honest talks, stern talks…it’s either leaving him or accepting that childcare is on me.

(We’re not talking about a man that does nothing at all or spends his nights in the pub, he does help, it’s just not a fair share and I am the default parent and the one that needs to juggle job and childcare).

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Bluedenimdoglover · 04/02/2026 20:27

You stated that if he wasn't so involved with his child you'd leave him. Well, there's your answer. You're there for the foreseeable. 6 early mornings in the gym is ridiculous when he has a family. If it was me, I'd do 6 evenings at the gym or wherever and leave him put the child to bed. If he objects, then he can compromise on his mornings and you can compromise on your evenings. You either take a stand or end up hating him - because at the moment, you have not mentioned love at all.

Intsywintsyspider · 04/02/2026 20:41

My Ex claimed to be “excellent” at domestic duties. He did stack the dishwasher and clean the kitchen most nights.
I still knew our lives were unbalanced and when I found myself getting up at 5am to to the weekly shop whilst he played cricket. I drew up a spreadsheet of EVERY single task it takes to run a household over a year and how long that too (happy to share it if it’s possible).
it took a while to get his undivided attention but the evidence was damming.

Once they see it in black and white, there’s no hiding or evading the fact that he’s task loading onto you. I’ll never stand for this again.

Monochroming · 04/02/2026 22:30

FryingPam · 04/02/2026 10:40

Yes, I have considered taking more evenings, but I do feel guilty because cooking while looking after DS requires some multi-tasking.

And this guilt is why women are the default caregivers. It comes naturally to us to put our needs to the bottom of the pile.

Out of curiosity, did your partner have the same morning routine before DC was born?

Yes, it is tough looking after a child and attempting to get things done such as cooking, but it's effectively the same as what you do six mornings a week.

If you could take the guilty feelings away, is there more you'd like to do if you had the opportunity in the evenings? And if you could do more in the evenings (guilt free) would it make up for the hectic mornings/lack of accountability for sick days, etc? (This will need to change when DC is in full-time education because you will both need to take time off work for school holidays unless you can afford holiday clubs, or have willing friends and family to help out).

FWIW, I offloaded some jobs to OH in order to get a better balance. I'm still the default parent. I do all school runs, take time off work for poorly children, and in general carry the biggest load for home and family. I've made peace with it. The jobs OH agreed to take on makes a big difference to my overall wellbeing and contentment. It's taken many rounds of on/off conflict, but somewhere along the lines I managed to convince OH of the value in my role as main caregiver, and how it benefits him. Sometimes just the acknowledgement of what I do and sacrifice for the family and home makes a big difference to how I feel about being the one with the biggest load.

Enrichetta · 05/02/2026 03:07

FWIW, I offloaded some jobs to OH in order to get a better balance. I'm still the default parent. I do all school runs, take time off work for poorly children, and in general carry the biggest load for home and family. I've made peace with it. The jobs OH agreed to take on makes a big difference to my overall wellbeing and contentment. It's taken many rounds of on/off conflict, but somewhere along the lines I managed to convince OH of the value in my role as main caregiver, and how it benefits him. Sometimes just the acknowledgement of what I do and sacrifice for the family and home makes a big difference to how I feel about being the one with the biggest load.

Words and ‘acknowledgments’ are cheap.

I hate to sound like a broken record, and I accept that many women end up in relationships where sacrificing their best interests seems like the only option - but this is why the vast majority of high earners continue to be men. Whereas so many women end up as hard-up single mothers and/or poor retirees.

Somehow, many (most?) men, when push comes to shove, manage to prioritise their own best interests. And pat themselves on the back for ‘helping’ to look after their own children.

bahto · 05/02/2026 04:24

After having DC my husband evaded morning work at home, would do bits in the evening, earned less than me, thought it was fine to leave mess every morning and all the washing as I wfh, never tidied up while I did bedtime, thought mowing the lawn was equivalent to a week or two’s total housework, wouldnt take child out alone, wouldn’t go shopping alone. Thought he was entitled to make all the decisions for our family and called me erratic or hormonal if I expressed displeasure with any of it. Couples counselling didn’t help just raised stress levels and conflict. Needless to say I became repulsed by him.

I left with DC and he demanded 50/50 via court and the 50% separation from DC has been very traumatic for me.
In terms of responsibilities I have far less now, I can keep my place how I like it and have free time- but I can’t spend that time with DC, I can’t ensure they are well looked after 50% of the time and I can’t do anything about how distressed they are by having to move between houses (because he still doesn’t listen to a word I say). It’s not a decision I would have made if I knew dads could just demand 50/50 and get it.

You could try couples counselling, fair play cards, discussing how things would look if you divorced, but I’m not sure it would help.
In your shoes I’d be tempted to see if I could borrow a good husband from a friend and invite them to bring their kids over in PJs before school to get ready together a couple of days a week, “it’s so much easier with two people, the kids love it, one of us does something fun with them while the other gets XYZ done, look how tidy the house is”.

There must be better ways of obtaining make contribution to the household, I just don’t have a clue what they are.
It’s unpicking all their ideas about roles and responsibilities and where they come from- but if they refuse to discuss, how can you start. Apparently some men are more receptive to listening while walking or working on something together- side by side not face to face. I don’t know. I wish I knew when I needed to know - it’s so frustrating for a relationship to go to shit when you want to be enjoying time with young DC.

i think some people probably turn to religion at this point!

Zanatdy · 05/02/2026 05:48

Sounds like DS is very young. The resentment builds, trust me. Sounds like your career is going to take a backseat as he will not leave work early to pick up from wrap around care or take a day off for sick child. My ex was selfish but he did at least some share of that. I guess it depends if you can box it away. I couldn’t and it really angered me. So more me, no, I couldn’t let it go.

Men like this really annoy me. At least you’re married though so if your career does take a back seat and you later divorce, you have some financial protection. As you see women on here everyday who have given up careers to be SAHM and are separating and entitled to very little.

falalalalalalalallama · 05/02/2026 05:55

beAsensible1 · 04/02/2026 09:43

But really there no point in having a life or procreating with someone who won’t be an equal and active parent.

Are you actually a parent?

Men don't come with a label attached that tells you what kind of father and life partner they'll be. They all promise the earth. You usually find out how helpful they actually are once you've had the DC, not before.

PithyViewer · 05/02/2026 06:14

OneShyQuail · 04/02/2026 09:48

But surely if he is caring for your child in evenings, you are then getting your "me time"

The illness and who takes time off work is always tricky but surely the most sensible answer is to do with finances here. If one parent looses more money to have a day off, then surely you go with the one who looses less money? And often children when ill do prefer their mum

If your job is salaried then you don't usually lose money by being off with a sick child, so it might be more about who has the nicer boss than who loses money!

CarlaLemarchant · 05/02/2026 06:33

PithyViewer · 05/02/2026 06:14

If your job is salaried then you don't usually lose money by being off with a sick child, so it might be more about who has the nicer boss than who loses money!

You do. Dependents leave is not infinite. You’re entitled to about 3 days per year in my work place. Outside of that, you would need to request annual leave and if you don’t have sufficient, unpaid leave. Also, my work place depends on minimum staff levels to be able to operate so if they weren’t able to authorise the leave then it has to fall to the other parent.

FryingPam · 05/02/2026 08:31

Monochroming · 04/02/2026 22:30

And this guilt is why women are the default caregivers. It comes naturally to us to put our needs to the bottom of the pile.

Out of curiosity, did your partner have the same morning routine before DC was born?

Yes, it is tough looking after a child and attempting to get things done such as cooking, but it's effectively the same as what you do six mornings a week.

If you could take the guilty feelings away, is there more you'd like to do if you had the opportunity in the evenings? And if you could do more in the evenings (guilt free) would it make up for the hectic mornings/lack of accountability for sick days, etc? (This will need to change when DC is in full-time education because you will both need to take time off work for school holidays unless you can afford holiday clubs, or have willing friends and family to help out).

FWIW, I offloaded some jobs to OH in order to get a better balance. I'm still the default parent. I do all school runs, take time off work for poorly children, and in general carry the biggest load for home and family. I've made peace with it. The jobs OH agreed to take on makes a big difference to my overall wellbeing and contentment. It's taken many rounds of on/off conflict, but somewhere along the lines I managed to convince OH of the value in my role as main caregiver, and how it benefits him. Sometimes just the acknowledgement of what I do and sacrifice for the family and home makes a big difference to how I feel about being the one with the biggest load.

A lot of what you said resonates with me! I guess the funny thing is, on the one hand I would like to take more me-time, but on the other hand I don’t…I’m sure it’s mostly guilt, also mum guilt of not spending every free minute with DS.

DH had the same morning routine before our baby was born, it didn’t bother me that much back then because we always did things independently and I had a very active social life. He said he’d focus on our baby if we have one (and he even was the driving force behind it), he was really good in the early post partum stages but then fell back into old habits.

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FryingPam · 05/02/2026 08:41

bahto · 05/02/2026 04:24

After having DC my husband evaded morning work at home, would do bits in the evening, earned less than me, thought it was fine to leave mess every morning and all the washing as I wfh, never tidied up while I did bedtime, thought mowing the lawn was equivalent to a week or two’s total housework, wouldnt take child out alone, wouldn’t go shopping alone. Thought he was entitled to make all the decisions for our family and called me erratic or hormonal if I expressed displeasure with any of it. Couples counselling didn’t help just raised stress levels and conflict. Needless to say I became repulsed by him.

I left with DC and he demanded 50/50 via court and the 50% separation from DC has been very traumatic for me.
In terms of responsibilities I have far less now, I can keep my place how I like it and have free time- but I can’t spend that time with DC, I can’t ensure they are well looked after 50% of the time and I can’t do anything about how distressed they are by having to move between houses (because he still doesn’t listen to a word I say). It’s not a decision I would have made if I knew dads could just demand 50/50 and get it.

You could try couples counselling, fair play cards, discussing how things would look if you divorced, but I’m not sure it would help.
In your shoes I’d be tempted to see if I could borrow a good husband from a friend and invite them to bring their kids over in PJs before school to get ready together a couple of days a week, “it’s so much easier with two people, the kids love it, one of us does something fun with them while the other gets XYZ done, look how tidy the house is”.

There must be better ways of obtaining make contribution to the household, I just don’t have a clue what they are.
It’s unpicking all their ideas about roles and responsibilities and where they come from- but if they refuse to discuss, how can you start. Apparently some men are more receptive to listening while walking or working on something together- side by side not face to face. I don’t know. I wish I knew when I needed to know - it’s so frustrating for a relationship to go to shit when you want to be enjoying time with young DC.

i think some people probably turn to religion at this point!

Sorry to hear that! It’s one of the reasons why I think divorce isn’t a good option for me. My husband loves the evenings with his son, he’d either go for 50/50 and find a way to make it work, but probably still be selfish in some ways and my son might suffer (as would I), or he’d see him on Sundays only which means I ‘d have even less support during the week/evenings and my son loses his connection to his dad with so sparse contact. I’m tempted to shake him to make him see that he’s in the same boat somewhat and that it would also be much easier for him to share the work more equally now than to having to figure it out after a divorce. I’m not sure if men (who do love their children and want to be in their lives) are just oblivious, or if they calculate that women will consider it too risky to leave and that’s why they think they’ll get away with it.

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FryingPam · 05/02/2026 08:45

Thank you everyone for replying, there is some excellent advice and very wise words. Although it is a shame to see that so many women are in a similar position.

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PenelopeChipShop · 05/02/2026 10:55

I saw this yesterday but didn't have time to reply until now. I thought I'd chip in because I was where you are a decade ago (or slightly worse even I reckon as he wasn't engaged with the kids emotionally at all really) and I ended up divorced.

In my case my ex-DH actually left us for a younger woman in the office (what a cliche I know) but if he hadn't I reckon I would have felt like this within a few years. Actually somewhere on here still is the thread I started at the time called something like 'I think my DH would see more of our DC if we divorced...' - I was absolutely right.

In my case he did so little in the home and parenting wise that I had way MORE free time once he saw the kids every other weekend. And to begin with that was only Sunday afternoons - so I still had the full load but I got one break a week and I made it count. I started a hobby that I loved so much I trained in it - it's now a side hustle that is doing really well and helping me financially. I wouldn't have had the chance to do that if I'd stayed married as it was ALL about him and his free time, he didn't even see me as a person once we'd had kids.

Ten years on he now has our two DC every other weekend and some holidays and even though I still do all of the parenting, mental load, work myself, all the school runs, I'm so much happier. We didn't work at all as a couple - his plan for our marriage was for me to do it all while he worked, played golf, scrolled his phone on the couch, had affairs and justified it all by being a high earner. No thanks. I earn much less but we get by (yes he pays CM but I could survive if he didn't) and I feel free in a way that I never could have as his wife. Logistically I'm not free as I'm obviously taking care of the kids over 90 per cent of the time but emotionally, mentally, even spiritually, I feel like I've been delivered from him. I wouldn't go back into a heteronormative relationship now.

I don't hate men before anyone says so - but what I have noticed among the men I've dated since is that almost all men of my generation (I'm mid-40s so probably older than you) want women to serve them in some way. You just have to get to know them to figure out what way it's gonna be! I'm done with it.

I wish you well. This could work but you'd have to be honest with him and with yourself. Being a single parent isn't for the weak but it can be a better alternative to a marriage that isn't supporting you.

Luxlumos · 05/02/2026 12:28

I did.

Until we had dc, our partnership felt equal in every respect. I hadn’t even been sure I wanted to have dc, but dh was so keen. His nieces and nephews adored him. He was lovely to our rescue kitten. I thought he’d be an amazing dad.

Neither of us anticipated the incredible amount of work and energy a baby brings. I’d admired dh’s work ethic, but we’d never been pushed beyond our capacity. We reacted in different ways. My maternal instinct was to dig deep and keep going, going, going until I ran myself ragged. Dh has an instinct for self preservation - when he gets tired, he sleeps; when he gets hungry he eats; when he’s low on energy he withdraws. He knows his limits and sticks to them.

I thought he should do more, he thought I should do less. Both of us had a point. Maybe he didn’t even appreciate how much I was doing because he assumed I’d stop when my battery ran low like he did, I don’t know, It wasn’t how I thought parenthood would be, and I was angry about it, and angry with him. I felt like my life had been changed irrevocably while the baby and I were just additions to his. I couldn’t understand how he could supposedly care for me and leave me struggling.

What complicated matters was that my employer folded while I was on maternity leave, and there was a hiring freeze in my industry. I (we) decided to have a second dc, thinking that we may as well take advantage of the timing. I didn’t make that decision lightly, because I knew the load would fall to me. I gave serious consideration to leaving but I didn’t.

The sahm/sole earner arrangement worked better for us. We split responsibilities along fairly traditional lines and it was easier than fighting about it. Dh, to his credit, was a hard worker and saw himself as the reliable wage earner from the point I lost my job. He’s been quite single minded about that, and became a high earner. But my career never got back on track. Every time the dc were sick, or had a half day, or their school holidays, it’s been my job to sort. While he benefitted from being able to work late, fly to meetings with no notice. And the more this translated into earning power, the harder it was to justify why it should be any other way.

With money, he’s unstintingly generous - he has no concept of “his money”, it’s all “ours”. He’s very kind, and family minded. He likes to spend all his time away from work with us, and is very proud of our family, supports the dc’s interests, in so far as they fall on weekends, and wants to give them every opportunity he never had. He’s proved much better with older dc, and teens although he still leaves the deeper emotional, nurturing to me. I leave all the house maintenance, car servicing, chasing utility providers, insurance, holiday organisation, to him.

He’s absolutely not a bad person. I wouldn't even say that he’s selfish exactly, it’s more that he operates from a principle of looking after himself so he can look after us. And he has looked after us materially.

I regret letting my career slip away and I feel embarrassed that I’ve so little to show for myself at 50. But I do have a lovely life now. I think that if he’d been less successful, and I’d had to work ft, it just couldn’t have worked. I didn’t expect, leaving college with 1H in the 90s that I was going to end up living in the 1950s like this. But when all is said and done, my career never had the potential to earn anything to close to what he does, so it’s really only me that’s missed out.

I don’t have advice op. I don’t think that there’s a right or wrong answer. It worked out okay-ish for us, but it could also have gone other ways.

PermanentTemporary · 05/02/2026 13:26

I’m still reflecting on this. I did think when ds was tiny that nobody should be able to divorce with children under 2 because it is so common to hate each other at that time - tbh the women to hate the men. I remember one day when I had an incredibly rare morning ‘off’ (ie Dh got up with ds, fed him and dozed off on the sofa while ds cried loudly; I got up, went into town once I was sure Dh was actually awake, had a nice time in a bookshop, then they met me at 11am, ds was restless and I went into the loo to change him and found that they’d come out with ds still in his overnight nappy, which was of course sodden and full, and he had a raging case of nappy rash). I despaired some days. I just couldn’t see that divorce would actually help, as I clearly couldn’t leave him with Dh.

I do think we were saved because ds was ludicrously healthy. He was almost never ill requiring time off, except for chicken pox - only actually ill for about 12 hours but 2 weeks away from other children. He also had a stupidly cheap nanny share so could go there if it was just a bit of a sniffle. I was lucky in my employer though - tbh I lied and said ds was ill on the days when I needed to look after Dh, who was ill much more often and eventually died when ds was a teenager.

By the time ds was talking and aware, certainly by 5, Dh and ds were good buddies and things were much much better. It shouldn’t have been the way it was, but ultimately I chose realpolitik.

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