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Why are most people against being a virgin and single for life?

129 replies

Nando8039 · 25/01/2026 16:43

I'm 35, in london, two paid off properties, I have great friends and family. I've never been interested in relationships and I'm still a virgin, the thought of it makes me sick.

OP posts:
MNLurker1345 · 25/01/2026 18:38

OP why do you never repost? You started
a thread to inspire a debate which you do not
engage in. Apparently not for the first time.

That is more interesting than your sexual proclivities.

ForTipsyFinch · 25/01/2026 18:39

ValidPistachio · 25/01/2026 17:35

If what you considered normal was actually normal, humans would have become extinct long ago.

Are you saying all men are man children then? Because I’m pretty sure I didn’t.

I’m also a parent.

ForTipsyFinch · 25/01/2026 18:41

ValidPistachio · 25/01/2026 18:34

The desire to have sex is not a choice. It is encoded in our genes.

Many of those 1 in 5 are sexually inactive, not through choice, but because they cannot attract a sexual partner, or some other powerful influence prevents them from seeking one, or because illness or disease precludes it.

We are animals. When we descended from some common ancestor of apes, we didn't magically become some new type of creature. We are still animals, we just happen to have developed certain advanced brain functions that no other species has. However, we still retain many of our original animal-like behaviours, impulses and drives, which our evolved minds are able to moderate, to a certain degree, and with varying levels of success.

Pretty much any woman can find someone to sleep with them, that’s a fact, and men who can’t can pay a sex worker. So that really isn’t much of a factor.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 25/01/2026 18:41

After the age of 16/17 when everyone is talking about it how would anyone know unless you make a point of telling them?

GRCP · 25/01/2026 18:44

People aren’t against it for other people, just themselves because most people have a desire for sex and companionship.

ValidPistachio · 25/01/2026 18:46

ForTipsyFinch · 25/01/2026 18:41

Pretty much any woman can find someone to sleep with them, that’s a fact, and men who can’t can pay a sex worker. So that really isn’t much of a factor.

A woman might feel too unattractive to do so, or fear putting herself in a vulnerable position. A man may decide that paying for sex is incompatible with his values, or that having a small penis or underdeveloped physique will make him an object of derision. These are examples of the powerful influences I mentioned, which can moderate our base instincts.

BeanQuisine · 25/01/2026 18:48

Catza · 25/01/2026 18:24

No, it's not "just a theory". It's a scientific theory which refers to a an explanation of phenomena which has been tested using scientific methods, be that intervention or observational studies or, where these are not available through abductive reasoning. Or any combination of the above.

A concept of scientific theory is rather different from common definition of "theory".

Evolution itself is not actually a "theory" - it's an empirical fact, attested by mountains of evidence.

There are various theories that seek to explain exactly how evolution works, including Darwin's original theory of evolution by natural selection, and the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis, a modified version that integrates genetics.

Similarly, gravity is an empirical fact, but there are various theories of how gravity works, such as the early Newtonian model and later General Relativity, which incorporates Newtonian mechanics in a very different geometric context.

onceandneveragain · 25/01/2026 18:52

ValidPistachio · 25/01/2026 18:46

A woman might feel too unattractive to do so, or fear putting herself in a vulnerable position. A man may decide that paying for sex is incompatible with his values, or that having a small penis or underdeveloped physique will make him an object of derision. These are examples of the powerful influences I mentioned, which can moderate our base instincts.

all are possibilities, but so is the fact that some people just don't want sex! Why do you find that so unbelievable?

There are lots of things humans do that go against what you'd assume would be our 'base instincts,' or "animal imperatives" or whatever you want to call it.

Staying in monogamous relationships.
Same sex relationships.
Trying to resolve situations through debate rather than fight or flee.
(Most) men stopping having children after a certain age rather than trying to propagate their gene pool until they die.
Women taking medication to prevent getting pregnant.
Actively limit our food intake and/or choose the less filling/nutritionally beneficial options
Not living in packs for protection.
Choosing to live in unwelcoming habitats.

OttersMayHaveShifted · 25/01/2026 18:55

I don't think people are 'against' it as such. They just don't want to live like that themselves.

Bargepole45 · 25/01/2026 18:56

This is the weirdest thread ever and OP is giving off major main character energy. Why on earth does anyone care if you're single or a virgin unless they want to be in a relationship with you?

I mean being a single virgin isn't the societal norm but so what? I am sure a lot of the judgement is imagined and projected. You don't need to justify your decisions either by stating you own properties. It is enough just to be yourself and to be happy about it.

Catza · 25/01/2026 19:01

BeanQuisine · 25/01/2026 18:48

Evolution itself is not actually a "theory" - it's an empirical fact, attested by mountains of evidence.

There are various theories that seek to explain exactly how evolution works, including Darwin's original theory of evolution by natural selection, and the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis, a modified version that integrates genetics.

Similarly, gravity is an empirical fact, but there are various theories of how gravity works, such as the early Newtonian model and later General Relativity, which incorporates Newtonian mechanics in a very different geometric context.

This doesn't contradict what I said so, I assume, you'd want to quote the poster I replied to rather than me. They are the ones who need convincing.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 25/01/2026 19:03

I don’t think about anyone else’s sex life but my own. I don’t care who you do or don’t have sex with but I definitely don’t want to hear about it. I couldn’t care less if you’re a virgin or not. I’m not in the slightest bit interested so why are you so interested in everyone else’s sex live?

ValidPistachio · 25/01/2026 19:04

onceandneveragain · 25/01/2026 18:52

all are possibilities, but so is the fact that some people just don't want sex! Why do you find that so unbelievable?

There are lots of things humans do that go against what you'd assume would be our 'base instincts,' or "animal imperatives" or whatever you want to call it.

Staying in monogamous relationships.
Same sex relationships.
Trying to resolve situations through debate rather than fight or flee.
(Most) men stopping having children after a certain age rather than trying to propagate their gene pool until they die.
Women taking medication to prevent getting pregnant.
Actively limit our food intake and/or choose the less filling/nutritionally beneficial options
Not living in packs for protection.
Choosing to live in unwelcoming habitats.

Humans are wired to want to have sex, just as they're wired to want to eat. Why do you find that so unbelievable? Many of us moderate this drive, or subvert it, or accept it cannot or should not be fulfilled, for any number of reasons, but the drive remains. Some people also do this with the eating drive, up to the point of death. The drive has not gone away, it has simply been defeated by the conscious mind.

LlynTegid · 25/01/2026 19:05

Your choice, it should be respected. Just shut down conversation about sex, you may be unusual but no-one is harmed by this.

nondrinker1985 · 25/01/2026 19:05

Don’t care love do what you want.

NewDogOwner · 25/01/2026 19:28

Because it's normal human behaviour to seek a partner and want to reproduce. It's instinct. It's oK if you don't feel that.

Jamesblonde2 · 25/01/2026 19:30

Biology.

FringeTime · 25/01/2026 19:34

Notthehill · 25/01/2026 17:04

Yes. It's seen as completely unacceptable. It's the last taboo. It's fine to be into animal sex or bondage or whatever, but if someone simply doesn't like sex, or just isn't comfortable with it or isn't very good at it - that's not ok!

In what way is it not ok?
Who will even know or care?
I’ve never heard any adult discussing the virginity or not of another adult.

gototogo · 25/01/2026 19:41

People are against you choice to remain single and celibate, that’s purely your choice. The two things would annoy me if you were preachy towards people who don’t choose your lifestyle or you complaint about supporting others dc with taxes , them having to take time off due to dc etc, each to their own. Remember if you don’t have dc you will need to make careful decisions about older age

gototogo · 25/01/2026 19:42

Btw how do they even know unless you are telling them?

TheeNotoriousPIG · 25/01/2026 19:42

I have concluded that it is because it is different, OP, and people don't usually like/approve of anything that is outside of the norm.

I used to get very tired of people putting pressure on me to be in relationships that I didn't want... from 16 onwards. Many years later, I think they've given up all hope of me being their version of 'normal' because I am happy as I am, on my own. My mother has come to realise that singledom is almost something to aspire to!

MNLurker1345 · 25/01/2026 19:44

Are we assuming that OP is a woman?

user1471453601 · 25/01/2026 19:47

I think you over estimate people's interest in you (and the state of your vagina).

FatCatPyjamas · 25/01/2026 19:53

ForTipsyFinch · 25/01/2026 18:41

Pretty much any woman can find someone to sleep with them, that’s a fact, and men who can’t can pay a sex worker. So that really isn’t much of a factor.

NRTFT, but just because there are men willing to have sex with me doesn't mean I automatically find them attractive. Finding someone shaggable is hard!

OP, do whatever you want, nobody cares. Your other life achievements are totally unrelated to your sex life, so I don't know why you thought them mention worthy in this context. And don't judge others for doing something that their DNA programmes them to find pleasurable.

BunnyLake · 25/01/2026 20:19

Notthehill · 25/01/2026 17:00

OP is right. There is disapproval of women not being sexually active and finding a partner in our society. Labels are used like spinster, frigid, etc. Even in this thread people are calling OP odd and inhuman.

OP, there are plenty of women who, in their heart of hearts, feel like you do but they've been programmed to think it's unacceptable. Success is viewed in terms of sexual attraction and prowess. But trust me, plenty of women secretly envy you.

No one is using labels like spinster or frigid.

I haven’t been in a relationship for years and no one is bothered about it. I never get odd looks or pitying (unneeded advice). I am totally happy with my decision to stay single and that probably projects on to others so I never get hassle.

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