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Healthy communication when disappointed - Example

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Chrysanthemumgrandiflorum · 19/01/2026 00:13

I planned a nice dinner to celebrate my boyfriend's university graduation. I was really excited about it, and I wanted to make the night feel special. Things started off well, but about halfway through the meal, he got quiet.

When I asked what was wrong, he said he didn't feel special. He said he wished I had asked him to reflect on the last two years of his degree and that the dinner felt like a "normal catch-up/date" (even though we hadn't seen each other in a few days). I even was like, let's go ahead, reflect and he was like no, it's not the same when it's not organic. I just felt so dismissed, I was with him, supporting him in material and emotional ways through this big life transition, from helping in his job search and his house search, helping him rehearse for big presentations.

It was so confusing and hurtful. I was literally there, at a dinner I planned for him, and he was making it about what I wasn't doing. It's a pattern he has where he just thinks he's sharing his feelings and being honest. And then, the dessert came out. I had secretly arranged with the restaurant to have a special plate with "Congratulations my darling" written on it. He saw it and was genuinely surprised and happy. He apologised for his earlier comments and said it was sweet.

For a moment, we went to being sweet again. But then, he immediately went back to "expressing his feelings".

I am really struggling because I have a tendency to overthink and I am exhausted. Is this healthy relationship communication? I mean even if he actually was disappointed, shouldn't he have just let the dinner pass and maybe like say that I feel like I would like to reflect on this journey? But his focus on "being asked" questions like this feels more important than actually sharing them.

He can be sweetest kindest human and I second guess myself. How do I deal with this? Please be gentle with your response.

OP posts:
Llamasarellovely · 19/01/2026 21:22

Jesus he annoyed me just reading that.
Life's too short sweetie. This will be a funny story for you one day, promise.

ReadingTime · 19/01/2026 21:30

He had nothing valid to be disappointed about. Nothing. If you stay with him, you will always be bending yourself into shapes trying to work out what the script is in his head so you can follow it and try to please him. Fuck that.

gezzab33 · 19/01/2026 21:39

You sound like such a lovely young woman and unfortunately you've been dating a self -centred spoiled brat. There are loads of men out there who would be over the moon to be with you, so there really is no need to continue being made to feel bad for absolutely NOTHING. Please. Time to express yourself as you tell him it's just not working for you anymore. Do it today.

Laurmolonlabe · 19/01/2026 22:59

TBH I think all this sounds like passive aggressive nonsense- reflect on the past two years??? It's a degree, many, many people do them.
It's not organic??
What he is really saying is that you hadn't made enough fuss of him and that he needs everything to be all about him, all the time.
I'm sorry but life is too short for this sort of nonsense- it's not being honest it's being a complete dick, of course you were hurt confused and upset- that is exactly what he wanted. This is not healthy your BF is a completely self centred egotist, personally I would dump him in a heartbeat.

Goldwren1923 · 19/01/2026 23:01

Don’t waste your time with him. You sound young, please find someone pleasant!

Laura95167 · 19/01/2026 23:10

Ask him to reflect? It was dinner not a knighthood. How boring and pompous. Next time make him a tin foil crown too.

And if he really wanted to just talk about himself through dinner why didnt he start by saying... you know reflecting on my study time....

pineapplecrushed · 20/01/2026 00:23

he sounds like an asshole

QuietPiggy · 20/01/2026 00:42

What did he expect? A parade and fireworks?

RosyPumpkins · 20/01/2026 03:13

Oh dear. How embarrassing for him.
Please don’t waste your time OP, there are some lovely guys out there and one of them will be worth while bothering for.

Out of interest, though I think I already know, do you get to ‘express yourself’?
This one’s your basic level wanker. It’s obvious you can do a lot better. I bet you pay for everything.

Maray1967 · 20/01/2026 06:31

VoltaireMittyDream · 19/01/2026 20:51

I’m getting carried away here, OP, because I imagine you’re young and I want to give you the advice I wish someone had given me in my early 20s - which is that the ‘sweet’ guys who are all vulnerable and in touch with their emotions an want to express their feelings honestly and authentically almost always turn out to be nasty, sulky and utterly self-centred (and often have very weird ideas about women, concealed behind progressive views).

Meanwhile, the boringly emotionally straightforward blokes who crack on with their own lives without needing constant support & reassurance & validation & cheerleading tend to be much more stable, consistent, fair, equality-minded and functionally kind. And that’s what you want in the long term.

Absolutely.

OP, I’m married to a man who would say, thanks for the dinner, love, it was great.

That’s what you want. Run a mile from this manipulative bloke.

Gossipisgood · 20/01/2026 10:43

He's gaslighting you. Get out now while you can see what's happening.

Chrysanthemumgrandiflorum · 20/01/2026 11:35

I just keep thinking like maybe he just wanted a deeper conversation (or like deeper conversations in general) and that's how it came out.

I also feel a little bit like I've lost the plot.

OP posts:
RosyPumpkins · 20/01/2026 11:44

It seems like the conversation was definitely going to be about him though. You sound like you went to trouble and he sounds like he was rude.

BillieWiper · 20/01/2026 11:49

Fucking hell. What a self absorbed, babyish, ungrateful shit. He needs to realise that nobody cares about him 'reflecting on the three years of his degree'. Not you, not his future employer.

Maybe someone who's taking a survey on behalf of the university might. Maybe his friends who did the course? But even then they've probably moved on and are concerned with working and being an adult.

Otherwise it was meant to be for his own benefit. Not so he can drone on in detail to others who didn't even share the same experience.

stonegirl · 20/01/2026 12:13

Please read and take note of all of the comments - not 1 has anything good to say about him! Please get out of this relationship and find someone you deserve. Good Luck x

Heatherandgreentartan · 20/01/2026 12:20

VoltaireMittyDream · 19/01/2026 20:51

I’m getting carried away here, OP, because I imagine you’re young and I want to give you the advice I wish someone had given me in my early 20s - which is that the ‘sweet’ guys who are all vulnerable and in touch with their emotions an want to express their feelings honestly and authentically almost always turn out to be nasty, sulky and utterly self-centred (and often have very weird ideas about women, concealed behind progressive views).

Meanwhile, the boringly emotionally straightforward blokes who crack on with their own lives without needing constant support & reassurance & validation & cheerleading tend to be much more stable, consistent, fair, equality-minded and functionally kind. And that’s what you want in the long term.

This is such good advice^^

Do not pander to this man op and show him the door!

I am actually quite concerned about this man op from the little information we have about him. There are so many red flags about his behaviour:

Going quiet during dinner > immature, passive aggressive, self-centred

Wishing you had asked him to reflect on the last two years > seriously? What a knob! And again, hugely self-centred bordering on narcissistic. Has he not got a voice and a brain? How on earth is this your fault?

Ignores all of the practical things you have done for him “supporting him materially and emotionally” and chooses to complain on this night of all nights > calculated, coercive, controlling

Goes back to being disappointed again even after the special cake had arrived > nothing you do will ever be right

I just felt so dismissed, I was with him, supporting him in material and emotional ways through this big life transition, from helping in his job search and his house search, helping him rehearse for big presentations

Op please do not do this anymore! He has chosen you because you are a good person who will go out of their way to help others. A good decent man would not entertain you doing all of the above anyway because they would be independent, and self-reliant.

Has he shown you similar support btw? I will hazard a guess that he has not!

Listen to those feelings of confusion. They are very common in coercive, controlling relationships because his behaviour doesn’t match his words.

A classic example, him “being honest” is not honesty. It’s a means to attack you in a passive aggressive way so he can feel superior. He is not your friend. He is not a team player and he certainly does not have the right qualities to be a long term life partner.

I would say leave this guy straightaway and watch your back when you do! Types like this can reveal their true selves when you reject them, so make sure you have friends and family around you when you extract yourself op. Good luck.

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 20/01/2026 12:24

Delphiniumandlupins · 19/01/2026 01:07

He's got a voice. He can reflect on the last two years of his degree without you interviewing him. Cut him loose, you're never going to be able to make things all about him as much as he wants.

This.

It’s reasonable to be outwardly disappointed when he has prior to the meal said he wanted to use it to talk about reflections and you then didn’t want to, or didn’t engage during the meal.

It’s unreasonable to have secret expectations of someone or an event, not communicate those expectations and ruin the mood and event because the person didn’t know what they were supposed to do, even when they are genuinely trying to do their best.

I’d communicate those feelings with him and see how he reacts.

Heatherandgreentartan · 20/01/2026 12:27

Chrysanthemumgrandiflorum · 20/01/2026 11:35

I just keep thinking like maybe he just wanted a deeper conversation (or like deeper conversations in general) and that's how it came out.

I also feel a little bit like I've lost the plot.

Don’t you get it op? That’s exactly how he wants you to feel! This is a win for him!

Op I am old enough to be your mother and if you were my dd, I’d drive over to you right now and beg you to block this bloke on all forms of communication and bring you home, make you a lovely dinner, and encourage you to reflect on this relationship.

Please do not start turning this feeling of upset and confusion on to yourself! You have done nothing wrong. Far from it, you did everything right, and more! You haven’t lost the plot! It’s him op! It’s all him!

VoltaireMittyDream · 20/01/2026 12:41

Chrysanthemumgrandiflorum · 20/01/2026 11:35

I just keep thinking like maybe he just wanted a deeper conversation (or like deeper conversations in general) and that's how it came out.

I also feel a little bit like I've lost the plot.

Even if he did, there was nothing stopping him from instigating the deeper conversation! Rather than sitting there silently expecting you to probe his innermost feelings about his degree journey 🙄

You haven’t lost the plot. You’re dating a wrongun.

Listen to the many voices of experience here.

waitingforthehallmarkedman · 20/01/2026 12:49

Fucking hell what a weirdo. Tell him to jog on and go find a real man! Jeez.

maudelovesharold · 20/01/2026 12:50

Chrysanthemumgrandiflorum · 20/01/2026 11:35

I just keep thinking like maybe he just wanted a deeper conversation (or like deeper conversations in general) and that's how it came out.

I also feel a little bit like I've lost the plot.

Deep conversations are fine if they involve both of you listening to each other and being heard. However, in your case, I think you’ll find that all the ‘deep’ conversations are about him. Any discussion concerning you and your feelings will be shut down pretty quickly or turned around to him and his delicate sensibilities. Try it.

Pashazade · 20/01/2026 12:50

If you’re feeling like you’ve lost the plot then you need to loose him, he sounds dire and will always blame you if you can’t mind read. Just no. Bin him off and move on, you deserve someone who appreciates a thoughtful gesture not a whiny man child.

HellsBells13 · 20/01/2026 12:53

Oh ffs get rid of him, what an utter tit. Reflect on what ??Did he want a flipboard presentation?

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 20/01/2026 12:56

He wanted to talk about the last 2 years? About himself?
Buy him a mirror to talk to and leave him for someone less self absorbed (literally 99% of the population)

AmyDudley · 20/01/2026 13:00

Jeez, what's his degree in - wankerology ?