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Husband threatening to leave

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LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

OP posts:
roseymoira · 19/12/2025 17:43

You can’t really be so self absorbed surely

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 19/12/2025 17:44

Cardinalita90 · 19/12/2025 17:38

It would be totally disingenuous and cruel to suggest starting again if you know truly you haven't the interest or stamina to make long term changes to sex and the way you treat him. You have 23 years of data showing you're disinterested, and the odds of you doing a 180 for the long haul are slim to none.

Men (rightly) get slated on here for wasting a woman's fertility years. You would be doing that with the years he has to meet someone new and carve out a meaningful new life for himself if you act disingenuously now. Perhaps a better step is couples counselling as a priority- booked by you!!!!

I agree with this. I think it would be disingenuous to fob him off by booking a weekend away two years after his 40th, and claiming you are invested in a new start. It is clear you are only doing this because you are terrified he might leave. Don't throw crumbs his way, only to go back to default mode once the immediate threat is averted. This happened with me and my ex and I wasted years of my life in a dysfunctional sexless marriage with a self-absorbed thoughtless man.

Please get couples counseling, and even individual therapy for yourself, and if that doesn't help within a defined time frame, please let him go with grace. And, I agree with others - he's not the one breaking up your family if this happens. Take some accountability for the situation. That's the starting point.

Chasbots · 19/12/2025 17:44

Yep, I'd usually take your side too but this is awful.

Why haven't you sorted out your issues with sex?

And the total can't be asked to do anything nice for the poor bloke, it's just not ok. Everyone is busy, you just can't be asked. He does sound a totally lovely bloke, who has been more than patient with not having any of his needs met in any way.

SaySomethingMan · 19/12/2025 17:44

I wouldn’t wavy to be in the marriage you’ve described either, in his position tbh. You don’t sound like you like him very much.
Also such a big birthday and nothing at all to mark it? It’s probably not the only thing because youre “ rubbish at organising” stuff sounds like an excuse. You do things for people you love, not because you’re good at it.

Keroppi · 19/12/2025 17:44

Crazy you need to go to a sex therapist and couples counselling. Make time in diary for each other
Go to a doctor about your low libido you might need your hormone levels checked etc
Show him you are acting to work on things and change
Have you not done any introspection on why intimacy /creating the relaxed mindset has been difficult for you? Being low libido or low sexual needs is normal as everyone is on a spectrum but you must understand not once in 3 years is really bad as is constant rejecting him. If you are so tired and exhausted you must need vitamins and iron levels checked etc. This isn't to "fix" you but to explore and understand yourself better and what you can do to create intimacy and passion.
Is he a great partner truly ? Sharing load etc

There's some great books like 'Come as you are' it's very good and explains female responsive desire with science

www.thegoodtrade.com/features/best-sex-books/

SandyY2K · 19/12/2025 17:45

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:26

I know I messed up with his present. I understand that. I did apologise to him.

Its not just the present abs you're apology has come too late.

You say srx twice a month is when it's good. That's really not much at all

You're not compatible sexually. You shouldn't feel pressured, but equally, he's not having a great time in the marriage. His needs are going unmet and that leads to resentment. It's human nature to be resentful in this situation.

harlemshake · 19/12/2025 17:45

Stompywompy · 19/12/2025 16:35

I dont understand. Why did you apologise and then....do nothing? Why didnt you book something for his actual birthday?

Why didnt you do a bit of work on yourself and try and figure out what's at the root of you not wanting sex?

What is this really about?

Is there a chance you are gay?

"Is there a chance you are gay?"

This maybe off but reading OP describe sex life and only doing it a bit more to have a baby, it gave me ptsd of my ex who turned ended up leaving me for a woman.

She made all the excuses to not have sex with me and even denied to not fancy me for years.

TheLemonLemur · 19/12/2025 17:45

Honestly it sounds like you need to put more effort in. He is trying to communicate with you and you brush it off being a parent is tiring you need to make time for each other. I
I am not surprised he feels unwanted and depressed when his wife doesn't have any affection for him. He made effort for yohr birthday and you got him essentially nothing. If you have childcare options book a night away with him. Or keep carrying on and don't be surprised if he walks away

RavenPie · 19/12/2025 17:45

Either you have to change into a person who loves (and fancies) him and acts like it, or you need to leave and let him have the chance of finding a loving relationship with someone else. It sounds like you aren’t interested in being in a relationship with him and don’t really gaf about him so the latter of those two choices probably suits best. I know what busy is and I know what tired is but it’s about priorities and your priority list includes neither your dh or your relationship. Let him go.

Sunflower459 · 19/12/2025 17:46

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 17:27

I think best to hide the thread, as this thread isn’t about you and the op hasn’t said more is going on, I hope you find happiness. X

You may be right. I’m not under the delusion that the thread is ‘about’ me, but OP was looking for perspectives, and I maintain that mine is relevant given certain similarities and my experience. (There seem to be lots of posters here who have been fortunate enough never to have had any problems with their sex lives, which is nice for them, but perhaps results in a limited understanding of some of the things that might be at the root of this.) I will concede that I was more invested in working on my relationship than OP seems to be thus far.

Laura95167 · 19/12/2025 17:47

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

Youre off work more than youre off. You could make time for sex when the kids are at school.

Hes "working" in the evenings to avoid pressurising you for attention he now feels unworthy of.

And yes you would be booking it because he mentioned it. But how is that worse than continuing to not booking it when hes told you hes upset because you haven't so far?

If you continue to do nothing and make excuses he will leave. As he should

bushproblems · 19/12/2025 17:48

No one has to have sex if they don’t want to. And nobody should stay in a marriage without sex, If that’s not what they want either.

But you have had planned pregnancies, so it sounds like you have used him for your own purposes, when it was convenient and necessary for you.

ChristmasFluff · 19/12/2025 17:48

We often see women on here being treated as a 'wife appliance' who is considered 'malfunctioning' if she has any needs herself. This is probably the first time I've seen a woman who is pissed off that her husband appliance is breaking down.

And now you want to 'press the reset button' and he's meant to forget your routine disregard of him and just get back to normal function.

This relationship is done. You don't love him (except in the sense that you would 'love' you new washing machine) and he knows that. Let him go.

lizzyBennet08 · 19/12/2025 17:48

Honestly I think it would be hard to recover from years and years of feeling unwanted and ignored. Maybe it would be better just to split up and let him find someone who desires him. He's clearly been deeply unhappy all these years . I would think the 40th was just a bit deal for him because he hoped ye might have sex on a weekend away which I find desperate sad for him.

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2025 17:49

lizzyBennet08 · 19/12/2025 17:48

Honestly I think it would be hard to recover from years and years of feeling unwanted and ignored. Maybe it would be better just to split up and let him find someone who desires him. He's clearly been deeply unhappy all these years . I would think the 40th was just a bit deal for him because he hoped ye might have sex on a weekend away which I find desperate sad for him.

Bet that's why she didn't book it

harlemshake · 19/12/2025 17:50

I would bet you are the root of his depression and you do not even realise it.

PLEASE DO him a favour and let him go and be happy

Notmyreality · 19/12/2025 17:51

harlemshake · 19/12/2025 17:50

I would bet you are the root of his depression and you do not even realise it.

PLEASE DO him a favour and let him go and be happy

I assume she realises but refuses to admit it to herself, like she’s refusing to admit the lack of sex is a real issue.

WanderlustMom · 19/12/2025 17:51

If I was in your husbands position I would not be happy in this marriage, at all.

AngelicKaty · 19/12/2025 17:52

WearyAuldWumman · 19/12/2025 17:30

The final straw for me - in your husband's position - would have been the 40th birthday disappointment. ISTR that a woman who posted about something similar - her husband making no effort for a landmark birthday - has been advised to leave him.

I was reminded of that thread too Weary. I occasionally read posts on MN claiming that if the genders were reversed in situations like this the OP would get different answers. I think this thread shows that's not the case and that the majority of MNetters aren't sexist and are entirely balanced in their criticism of people who treat their partners poorly, regardless of the genders of the parties involved.

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 19/12/2025 17:52

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

Yes, you are booking it exactly because he brought it up. And because you now realise it’s important to him and your marriage and you want to spend time with him to reconnect. And you should be doing lots of other, unprompted things to help build his self esteem back up and make him feel loved and appreciated.

But honestly, you need to talk to him about your position on sex, maybe consider therapy on this, but if you never want sex again for the rest of your life you need to be clear with him now on this. And then decide if you’re happy with him potentially doing this outside the marriage. And if you’re not, giving him the opportunity to leave and find a relationship that’s fulfilling to him.

At the minute it sounds like you want him to stay in a loveless and unhappy marriage to “not break up your family” but he just has to accept the way you treat him. That’s not love or a relationship. You need to invest time and effort in it, and if that means the kids do fewer activities to give you the capacity for that then so be it as they will likely get more out of seeing a loving, healthy relationship between their parents than they will from dance class once a week.

MissyMooPoo2 · 19/12/2025 17:52

A really good regular sex life, is very unlikely to be once a month by a lot of people’s standards. The two of you seem inherently mismatched.

buymeflowers · 19/12/2025 17:52

I recently left a marriage just like yours but in reverse. Your poor husband, his self esteem will be on the floor.

DobryWieczor · 19/12/2025 17:52

“good regular sex life” and “once a month” are not the same thing for most people

Talkingtomyhouseplants · 19/12/2025 17:52

You’re the villain here OP. He is right to be upset about his birthday and to be honest he doesn’t sound like he has done anything wrong! Of course you shouldn’t be having sex you don’t want but you have made what sound like his reasonable attempts to engage you in a conversation about a real problem all about you feeling pressured and not considered his feelings on the matter at all. Of course he feels unloved, unattractive and unwanted!

LetTheMemberSpeak · 19/12/2025 17:53

In this situation words are not enough ie an apology. You need to find the impetus to do something tangible. Book a special event which he’d like for a belated birthday present, and he can choose who he wants to go with. Book yourself some individual or couples counselling. You have to show some commitment before he’d have any reason to trust you are for his needs as well as your own.