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Husband threatening to leave

626 replies

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

OP posts:
whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 19/12/2025 17:30

I am feeling really sorry for your DH, to be honest, and struggling to understand what you could have been thinking - either with his birthday (which I guess just is a symptom of general lack of thoughtfulness/consideration/care) or the sex life. Once a month in the good periods and not at all for the last three? I think you may not have perspective on what a huge void this can create in a relationship. You don't have to have sex if you don't want to, ofcourse, but to shut down his attempts to discuss it and making no effort to address the mismatch in desire says a lot about your extractive view of this relationship. Let him go, OP. He sounds like a lovely bloke - he really does deserve something better than what you are able to offer him.

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 17:31

Op if you genuinely forgot to book the weekend, and again, I think you’re lying, when reminded most people would immediatly jump up and say shit, let’s book it now I’m so sorry and proceed to book. Not say well I’m not booking it as you will think I’m only doing so as you brought it up.

if you can’t even bring yourself to go on a weekend with him, what’s the point in offering to start again, you’re not going to change anything you just want to alleviate the immediate threat.

LBFseBrom · 19/12/2025 17:32

HappyToSmile · 19/12/2025 16:25

You can be friends and co parent without being married. I can completely see his point of view

I agree.

Set him free.

Eyeshadow · 19/12/2025 17:32

He should have left at least 10 years ago.

If you have any love or respect for him you would be helping him to leave in a way that limits the impact.

Its time to let him find someone who loves him.

If I was you I would be encouraging him to start a thread on here so that we can help him and explain that you started one about it.

Please don’t ask him to stay or make him feel guilty for leaving.

momtoboys · 19/12/2025 17:32

Thank you for posting this. Occasionally I had worried that I was an uninterested wife and now I feel so much better.

Timeforanamechangeagain2 · 19/12/2025 17:33

I would be devastated if a spouse didn’t do anything for a major birthday, as posters on here sometimes are. What have you done to make it up to him? Have you made an effort?

If you want the marriage to last I thing you need to do marriage therapy together and you need to find ways to show him you care about him. Otherwise the kindest thing to do is an amicable split. He’s clearly unhappy. Are you happy?

141mum · 19/12/2025 17:34

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

Sorry but your lucky he’s stayed around this long

sillylittlerabbit · 19/12/2025 17:34

Yes, you would only be booking the weekend away because he raised it - but that’s the point, isn’t it? You’re never going to get around to it of your volition, so he has to raise it. And the only, only appropriate response is to book something spectacular, quickly, and show you’re able to make up for your fuck up.
but you seem resistant to doing anything on your own terms…
And if you’re not excited to treat your husband, to make him feel special at a key stage in his life, then I have to agree with others - why are you still there?

antipodeansun · 19/12/2025 17:34

It is interesting you stayed together in your teens/twenties with sex life that you describe. Most young people would break up and look for more compatible partners. Did neither of you try to leave? Was he your first partner? And you his?

sillylittlerabbit · 19/12/2025 17:34

Yes, you would only be booking the weekend away because he raised it - but that’s the point, isn’t it? You’re never going to get around to it of your volition, so he has to raise it. And the only, only appropriate response is to book something spectacular, quickly, and show you’re able to make up for your fuck up.
but you seem resistant to doing anything on your own terms…
And if you’re not excited to treat your husband, to make him feel special at a key stage in his life, then I have to agree with others - why are you still there?

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 19/12/2025 17:35

AnotherNam · 19/12/2025 16:59

you just keep making excuses. Plenty of us work 5 days a week, have children with very busy schedules and yet still remember to buy/ book presents!

and, find the energy/joy/intimacy in sex with our partners....!

SqueakyDinosaur · 19/12/2025 17:37

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 17:22

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

of course you should book it as he brought it up. Good grief. Why on earth wouldn’t you. Unless you just don’t want to go away with him. If that’s the case and I suspect it is, then end this sham.

It feels to me like not booking the weekend away is just another tactic for avoiding intimacy and sexual contact.

johnd2 · 19/12/2025 17:37

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

It feels like you're only booking it because he brought it up, What's the issue there? It's called communication.
One of you says something is bothering them and the other tries to help. But you are saying you feel like that's a problem?

DancingLions · 19/12/2025 17:37

Surely this is a reverse? How can someone be so uncaring to someone they claim to love.

If its not, honestly I hope he does leave you and gets to experience a warm, loving relationship.

BuckChuckets · 19/12/2025 17:38

@LatteLady84 When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month.

Once a month isn't regular sex for most people. Maybe it was good and enough for you, but obviously not for him. I do agree that he should have dealt with this sooner, not waited this long to say he's ready to leave.

diddl · 19/12/2025 17:38

He should have left at least 10 years ago.

Honestly I'm surprised they got married with such mismatched sex drives.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 19/12/2025 17:38

I’ll be honest and say normally I take the woman’s side in situations such as the woman feeling pressurised into having sex but you haven’t been. Your husband has been so patient and kind and you repay this by forgetting to book his birthday weekend.

The phrase “when someone shows you who they are, believe them” springs to mind. You’ve shown your husband you don’t love him so why should he stay?

He sounds like a great guy and I imagine he could build a lovey new life with someone who would really appreciate him.

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2025 17:38

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:26

I know I messed up with his present. I understand that. I did apologise to him.

Just an apology? Was that it?

And he won't be breaking up your family if he leaves. You will

I understand the difficulty of you having a very low sex drive, and I'm amazed he's gone along with it for all these years.

No, you shouldn't do it if you don't want to, but he's entitled to feel wanted.

harlemshake · 19/12/2025 17:38

"we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, "

This is why it's important to settle for someone who match your drive early on and if things change down the road then be it.

once a month is a good period for some?

Cardinalita90 · 19/12/2025 17:38

It would be totally disingenuous and cruel to suggest starting again if you know truly you haven't the interest or stamina to make long term changes to sex and the way you treat him. You have 23 years of data showing you're disinterested, and the odds of you doing a 180 for the long haul are slim to none.

Men (rightly) get slated on here for wasting a woman's fertility years. You would be doing that with the years he has to meet someone new and carve out a meaningful new life for himself if you act disingenuously now. Perhaps a better step is couples counselling as a priority- booked by you!!!!

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 17:39

It’s not the sex for me. It’s the abject cruelty of not bothering ro buy him a 40th birthday present then refusing to book the weekend with excuses, lying she forgot. It’s so hurtful,

Sunflower459 · 19/12/2025 17:41

MrsDoomesPattersen · 19/12/2025 17:28

I have read all the posts and no one has said just put out

actually a lot of therapist may advice just doing it as it has built up
to mean such a lot - just to break the ice - obv this is in sex therapy - and then you work on what comes up (no pun intended)

Edited

There was a post (third page, I think?) that suggested that sometimes there is a need to set aside your lack of desire and just do it for the other person’s benefit. I don’t think ‘just put out’ is an unfair gloss of that.

I’ve always felt that no man deserving of sex would be anything other than repulsed by the idea of sex with a woman who wasn’t enthusiastically consenting. I would certainly be appalled by any professional who advocated such a thing. I’m reasonably confident, based on OP’s own account, that her husband probably feels much the same: that he wants her to feel the desire and yearning for sex, rather than just going through the motions. Having sex with someone who’s not into it is hardly likely to improve his self esteem.

Laura95167 · 19/12/2025 17:41

Im team husband. He wants sex, you dont want sex or to talk about it. And tbh once a month isnt that regular. Hes as a result been in a sexless relationship for 3 years and if talking about your different needs makes you feel "pressured" its not like he can even suggest counselling.

Its been almost 2 years since his 40th and he didnt get a present or a promised trip in place of a trip. But did enjoy the spoiling you got for yours. And honestly, bad at planning is a shockingly shit excuse. Its like "this is who I am" and you dont come across like you care about the impact it has on him. Its about whats comfy and easy for you.

You like the version of him you get when he suppresses his all his needs.

It seems like you want the whole relationship has been about you. And hes sick of it. You arent compatible. And you arent willing to work on that.

Its a shame, and I understand youre upset but a present and intimacy arent unreasonable needs to have. And its not reasonable to expect him to go without intimacy indefinitely, especially when you haven't mentioned any ways in which you compromise for him.

You need to decide, and fast, if youre willing to work together to address the distance between you or let him go

harlemshake · 19/12/2025 17:43

Suprised we do not see many of the usual "leave him" when it's the men doing what you are doing , no wonder he feels unwanted OP, this is horrible:

I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway

way2serious · 19/12/2025 17:43

So do you genuinely not want to lose him because you love him desperately or because he is ‘convenient’ and a good dad? Do you love him for him?