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Husband threatening to leave

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LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

OP posts:
NotrialNodeal · 19/12/2025 17:53

OP SHOW YOUR HUSBAND THIS THREAD.

LoveItaly · 19/12/2025 17:53

You should let him go, this relationship sounds unrecoverable. It rather looks like you used him just to get married and have children.

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 17:54

NotrialNodeal · 19/12/2025 17:53

OP SHOW YOUR HUSBAND THIS THREAD.

Cmon, she’s clearly not going to do that.

Sunflower459 · 19/12/2025 17:54

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2025 17:49

Bet that's why she didn't book it

Which is why I really think OP should get professional help and advice. Because the real question here is surely why she would go to such (hurtful) lengths to avoid sex with her husband. It could be sheer cruelty, but it could be a load of other things.

Canonlythinkofthisone · 19/12/2025 17:54

Jesus. What a sad situation. For your DH that is.
If you love him, let him go.
You sound cruel.
And I'm not talking about the sex either

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 17:55

Sunflower459 · 19/12/2025 17:54

Which is why I really think OP should get professional help and advice. Because the real question here is surely why she would go to such (hurtful) lengths to avoid sex with her husband. It could be sheer cruelty, but it could be a load of other things.

i think it’s cruelty or complete disinterest, as she could easily have bought him a present, she didn’t even do that.

Couldyounot · 19/12/2025 17:55

Charlenedickens · 19/12/2025 16:24

Wow op, the man is living a practically celibate life and you didn’t even bother getting him a present for his 40th, that’s really shitty,

im afraid if I was him I’d leave and find a loving relationship where he feels valued.

Exactly this, OP. You're just not arsed with him. No wonder he's had enough.

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 17:56

Its been hard to keep up with the flow of posts but thanks everyone for comments. I get that I haven't handled things well. I really do love my husband very much, and we do enjoy our time together. We have nice days out with our children, we have evenings out as a couple and with friends. So we do have good time together.

To explain a couple of points people have asked, I am definitely not gay, and we are each others only ever partners. We were 18 when we got together, 19 when we first had sex and perhaps both of our understandings of a normal relationship have been restricted by our lack of experience outside of our own relationship. I don't think either of us really thought we had met the person we would marry at 18, but we got together and stayed together, and I think it has mostly been happy.

On sex itself, I do have a low drive, I recognise that. But it's also true that I am tired a lot, I tend to be early to bed anyway, so if we got out for example, by the time we get home I am really tired and sex just isn't on my mind. Maybe I have portrayed myself badly from what I have said but I am not a bad person I promise, and I do really want to fix things. I understand the first step is to make more effort and try to change myself, and let him know how much I love him.

OP posts:
Glitterybee · 19/12/2025 17:56

Poor guy! Sorry OP but I can see his point entirely

harlemshake · 19/12/2025 17:56

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

You have not met his needs for 23 years and only used him to create children and not even bothered to do a simple expectation from a partner for his 40th, i doubt he can just "forget everything that has happened on the past" over 23 years OP.

You further save the marriage for the sake of not breaking the family and not once did you suggest its because you actually love and care for him.

JoshLymanSwagger · 19/12/2025 17:57

You seem so cold to him.

I wouldn't blame him for leaving.

You've used him.

I hope he finds someone who deserves him.

eta, Whatever you do now will be too little, too late.

He deserves better than this.

Dissappearedupmyownarse · 19/12/2025 17:58

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

Jesus OP! No wonder he feels unloved.
You are not compatible sexually. Having sex 1-2 times a month is not 'a regular ' sex life at all! I'm not saying that you should give into him but everyone has needs that must be met in a relationship in order for it to last and stay strong. His needs are not being met, simple.
The fact that you have forgotten to book his birthday is absolutely disgraceful behaviour! Imagine if this was the other way around.
Sex aside, this would be sufficient grounds for most people to reconsider the longevity of their relationship.
You either need to work on your sexlife and maybe get professional support to help you move forwards or you're honest with him and tell him that this is how its going to be forever. Let him then decide if he never has sex again or waits around for the scraps that you throw him. Being held captive in a sexless relationship is emotionally destructive. Let him go if you're not compatible.

InveterateWineDrinker · 19/12/2025 17:58

I am a man just into my fifties married to a woman your age who lost all interest in sex pretty much immediately after our family was complete; DCs are now eight and five. We had sex twice in 2024, and not once in 2025; she won't so much as touch my genitals or even look at me while I'm getting undressed. She acknowledges it's an issue for me and knows she needs to do more, but just can't bring herself to.

I do think about leaving her most days because of it. I feel utterly rejected even though I'm the same size and shape as when we met (and were at it like rabbits), and it's even more insulting because she's quite happy to accept oral and other forms of stimulation from me.

The reason I don't leave is that literally everything else she says and does underlines that she adores me and appreciates everything I bring to the marriage, and apart from the complete absence of sex I am otherwise very happy in my marriage. She organised a stunning 50th celebration behind my back. She still cuddles up in bed, massages me, kisses me a lot, and gives no other sign that she's physically repulsed by me. I'm also fortunate to be in a position where I have the time and the privacy to masturbate regularly.

I don't know if your DH has any other options you might approve of for sexual release, but even if he does you have actually made it quite clear that you don't even really like him, never mind value him and what he brings to your marriage. I could never stay if I were in his position: it's not really about the sex, it's about basic respect and based on the evidence he has rightly concluded that you have none for him. You're still making excuses even now about the 40th.

I'm almost always for trying to save marriages, but I really can't see what you bring to this one, or whether you really want to bring anything. I agree with PPs that you haven't listened to him, but I disagree that his threat is a cry for help. It sounds like an ultimatum because it is, and he has probably concluded that the only signal you have any chance of responding to is one with a mushroom-shaped cloud.

By all means start offering the basic respect he has asked for, but if you're just not interested in that then let him go, on his terms.

EchoesOfOurDreams · 19/12/2025 17:58

I don't blame him for wanting to leave. You didn't bother getting him a present or organising a holiday for his 40th birthday, and also expect him to live like a monk?

And having sex only once a month is not a "regular" by any means. That is very low.

Tbh you sound asexual and it isn't fair to expect your husband to accept that.

And you're also BU for not bothering with his birthday either.

justpassmethemouse · 19/12/2025 17:58

There is a piece of advice for those that find themselves ready for sleep after a night out, that on their date night, they have sex before they go out for dinner. Does this sound like a solution that might work for you?

PoliteSquid · 19/12/2025 17:58

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:26

I know I messed up with his present. I understand that. I did apologise to him.

I think an apology is not enough.,

do you even like him?? Because reading your posts I’m not sure.

I have similar feelings about sex, similar length of relationship, kids etc. But I adore DH and wouldn’t dream of not organising a birthday gift!!!

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 19/12/2025 17:58

You are making your husband feel unloved, unwanted and totally fed up. Be honest and let him go ... he's obviously miserable living a sexless existance.

You can't have sex to maje your husband happy but you can gave sex when you want something out if it ... a child. That's very sad.

HeadyLamarr · 19/12/2025 17:58

You can be happy, loving co-parents who aren't married, OP.

Let the poor man find someone who actually wants him and live the sex-free life you prefer.

Tontostitis · 19/12/2025 17:59

I'm very happily married to a man whose first marriage sounds very like yours. He stayed 23 years before leaving.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 19/12/2025 17:59

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

You do get that but but but...

Stop with the excuses, recognise your marriage is on a knife edge and take decisive consistent action to show your dh he is at least somewhere on your priority list..
Or expect divorce...

If you connect with your husband, you might actually feel like having sex once in a while too.

As an fyi....you arent "special'
all your excuses are judt regular life.
My dh and I work 40 hr plus weeks and have a 3 and 1 yr old... we go on date nights and make time for each other because its important..

Re: holiday
You'd also be showing him you heard him.
Maybe put some effort in research it and make it extra special to male up for it being 2 years late and he had to threaten to leave yoylu for you to bother...

Book it and spend some time with your dh ASAP.

Petitchat · 19/12/2025 17:59

Have you tried Relate counselling? We found them very helpful.
Whether you stay together OR split up, they can really help.

WhereYouLeftIt · 19/12/2025 17:59

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

"But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family."
Why would it be him breaking up the family? Why wouldn't it be you breaking up the family? You, who has treated your spouse as an afterthought, someone who you couldn't even be bothered to arrange a 40th birthday present for? If it all stems from your behaviour, it is you who will be breaking up the family!

And why don't you want to lose him? Would it just be inconvenient? Do you actually LOVE him? Because it really doesn't sound as if you do - and I'm not talking about the lack of a sex life here, I'm talking about affection and caring about the happiness of your life partner. That, frankly, seems to be as lacking as the sex.

How you describe your sex life is a bit of a clue - you describe it as him "trying it on", there is no mutuality there, is there? Your role, as I presume you see it, it to be the gatekeeper; where he asks and you might deign to say yes, but really you shut him down to discourage him from asking. Avoidance. Where did your attitude towards sex come from? Were you raised strict Catholic, or in a repressed family, were you assaulted in childhood - where? You don't like any conversations with your husband about this, I'm sure you don't like having a conversation with Mumsnet about it either, so how about you have a conversation WITH YOURSELF about it? Seriously. Think about how you feel about sex, how long you've felt that way, and where did that start?

You're a bit too inclined to deflect blame away from yourself and onto 'life' - but everyone here is dealing with just the same. Working, raising children, kids hobbies - we're all doing that, some of us working full-time too. So no, "In the evenings I am just shattered" does not cut it.

The 40th birthday thing is just SHOCKING. You have no reasonable excuse - hell, you don't even have an unreasonable excuse. For almost TWO YEARS you have just carried on your sweet way, ignoring the elephant in the room. Can you honestly not see how demeaning, how insulting, how plain uncaring your actions have been? And how do you talk of this? "I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway." How bloody dismissive of you! It's how I would describe booking a professional oven clean, but something as important as marking a milestone birthday for the person whose happiness I should care about more than my own? Shocking. And I am not easily shocked.

"I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up."
No, you'd be booking something because you were ashamed to have hurt him so much, ashamed that you had treated him so cavalierly, ashamed, ashamed, ashamed.

"What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?"
And first dating was that good was it? "I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally." Why would that be a good thing to go back to? And frankly, it smacks of you avoiding responsibility for your own past actions. Be very clear about this - you have severely fucked up your relationship. All your own work. I see very little hope that your marriage can survive.

Your starting point should be getting some therapy, to get to the bottom of why you avoid intimacy - and by intimacy I do not mean just sex. Affection and caring are missing too. Stop making excuses. Acknowledge your own actions, inactions, mistakes. Tell your poor husband that it's not him, it's you. You who have fucked up. You who now know you need to change. And I think you should also consider that the best thing you could do for the both of you is to call it a day. Set him free to be loved by another. Set yourself free from avoiding intimacy (affection, caring, sex). Just don't sweep this all under the carpet, which is how I fancy you've lived your life up until now.

PersephonePomegranate · 19/12/2025 18:01

Jesus, you sound even more selfish, OP! You expect him him to just 'forget' everything that's happened, or more specifically, how you've behaved? Just sweep it under the rug and prented it never happened? That's not how moving on goes.

What were things like when you were teenagers/early twenties? He must really love you, because I don't know any men of that age who would hang around in a relationship that consisted of sex once a month. You've completely abused his love and loyalty.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 19/12/2025 18:01

Girl, kindly

He wants sex 🥺 xx

Douchey · 19/12/2025 18:01

No no. You dont get to forget everything that has happened and gloss over your, quite frankly, poor attempt at being a wife.

You work 3 days a week. Congratulations. Many work far more than that and have time to book their husbands promised milestone birthday get away.

The sex drive? Well, if you dont want it, you dont want it, and shouldn't feel pushed. But you refer to how great it was when you had sex once or twice a month. Ive been there, the unwanted wife and once or twice a month made me feel incredibly unloved and unwanted.

Really, you need to either let him go or do much , much better. If genders were reversed, people would say LTB. I vote for your husband to LTW.

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