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Husband threatening to leave

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LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

OP posts:
babyproblems · 19/12/2025 22:04

Agree with everyone else saying the present thing is really poor from you.
I think it says a lot about how you feel about him really… I don’t think - from what you’ve said - that you really love him to be honest.

I wonder why you married him.. was it just because you wanted to feel
secure? Wanted children? It doesn’t sound like you’ve ever really wanted him. Or that you’ve ever really been head over heels in love with someone… I’m not sure you realise what is actually out there!! You seem to have chosen this ultra secure, mediocre life; I wondered why. Were you very vulnerable when you met? For many people (maybe most people), even sex once a month would be considered very very minimal. I think your DH has been really patient and you need to either consider getting some help to change your perspective on intimacy and look at your negativity towards it with a view to improving your marriage; or you need to be honest with yourself and him and say ‘I don’t want sex (or love you like you deserve?) and you do, therefore this marriage is over and I’ll do my best to coparent realky well together and still be a family without us being married’

Best of luck to you x

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 19/12/2025 22:07

Are you taking hormonal contraceptives op? I wonder if this is crushing your sex drive?

Im not surprised your dh feels unloved, you’re really taking him for granted and if I were him I’d leave 🤷‍♀️ the birthday thing alone is terrible.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 19/12/2025 22:07

You both want wildly different marriages. He wants a marriage with regular sex and you want companionship.
I think you should let him leave and work on your friendship with him as a co-parent.

Winter2020 · 19/12/2025 22:10

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

I think he would be delighted if you booked something now because he brought it up.

I understand you saying you are tired with work and kids but if you did make the effort to get away even once in a while I think your husband would appreciate it.

When you say you don’t crave sex I don’t think you need to. I think for a lot of women feeling that they would like to have sex comes from things starting to heat up with their partner.

You should think about if you and your husband did split would you date again? If you would then would you be open to a sexual relationship or explain that you are only looking for a companion. If you would want to date again and have a sexual relationship (bearing in mind you have said that you do fancy your husband) then I think it is only taking your husband for granted that has led to you never having sex with him. You need to stop taking him for granted.

Shedeboodinia · 19/12/2025 22:14

Honestly, your marriage sounds like it was based on just friendship from the start, relationships in your 20s are hot sweaty and very sexy. If you never had that with him and you got together so young, you probably have never been sexually compatible from the start. Once a month in your 20s pre kids sounds like it was a chore you had to get through rather than anything else.
Our sex life is quite minimal after 20 years but it's a bug bear for us both and we are trying to get it on track, but when we got together it was an every day thing and only fizzled out due to having kid really and all the tiredness that goes with that.
You don't really seem bothered about him as a sexual or intimiate partner. Just companionship. And it's very unfair to keep someone hanging on if you never want more than that and they do.

Aimtodobetter · 19/12/2025 22:14

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

You would be only booking it because he brought it up - that's still better than continuing to not book it.

KeepAwayFromChildren · 19/12/2025 22:18

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 18:18

Thank you for understanding. I do fancy him, and when we did have sex I did enjoy it, but I don't find myself craving it.

When we are intimate in a non-sexual way, like cuddling up for a movie, I have always felt like that was where he was heading, like he was trying to set it up to initiate something sexual, rather than actually wanting to spend time with me. Since he stopped trying to initiate things sexually, he has stopped any efforts to have non-sexual intimacy, which backs that up. So I do feel like he's only interested in intimacy if it has a chance of leading to sex and that puts so much pressure on.

He will still make nice gestures, but they're not intimate things. It's like organising a dinner with my friends, it was nice, but then we had a 1 hr drive home and I didn't want sex, not that he asked for it anyway.

I'm not trying to sound good or bad, I am just trying to explain why I find that I don't want sex. If I can lie in bed and watch tv, it's relaxing, sex feels like it has expectations and pressure, and all he's interested in intimacy for.

I think you need marriage guidance or sex counselling. It's not working for him even if it's working for you.

It's amazing he is still around this far down the road.

Bloozie · 19/12/2025 22:23

I really feel for your husband. Having such a wildly mismatched sex drive with your partner is a unique form of torture.

Intimacy is a habit. Sex begets sex. And the desire to have sex can be triggered by intimacy - google 'responsive sexual desire' as it is the saviour and mainstay of long term relationships. You don't have to crave sex, to initiate sex or respond to what you believe is an approach for sex. You just have to open your arms, go with the flow, and see where things end up.

You urgently need to make time for your marriage, in the same way you make time for your kids. You are right, that life is hectic when kids are young and it's easy to get into a divide and conquer mentality and put your relationship on the back burner - but you've put yours on actual ice, for years. That's really not fair. You only work 3 days a week - even with kids and clubs, why do you feel you have so little time and energy? Does your husband not pull his weight with the house and family?

oilfilledradiator · 19/12/2025 22:28

StephensLass1977 · 19/12/2025 20:58

He's not "threatening to leave" is he? He's made a cry for help. You do like to twist his words, don't you?

Instead of you rectifying the 40th birthday issue, you said sorry and continued to do nothing. You shrug off his cuddles by thinking he's doing it only as a prelude to sex. You think sex once a month is great going, hot and heavy.

Please don't be surprised when he tells you he's met someone else who treats him with the respect he deserves. In fact I'm rooting for him that he does.

Me too, frankly.

OP, you don't actually love your husband. Otherwise you wouldn't have neglected him so badly, and so consistently. The lack of sex is just a part of this (though an important part) – you promise him something special for his birthday and then can't be arsed to arrange it, you dismiss his need for physical affection of any kind, you blame him for de-stablising the relationship when what he's actually doing is expressing all his pain to you, in desperation (what it must have taken for him to share those feelings with you), you've used him as a sperm donor when you wanted to get pregnant. What a miserable existence you've subjected him to.

And then you suggest that he just go ground zero and start again with you, as if the 20 years of this that he's endured hasn't happened, as if you're just suddenly going to start properly wanting him? You're deluded.

Please don't keep him in this prison any longer. He deserves to be free of it.

Sexyin2026 · 19/12/2025 22:33

This relationship isn’t going to last. Usually when a couple marry their first partner, the guy gets itchy feet around 40 when he realises that he hasn’t sampled a lot of women, and he’s not getting any younger , and that’s when he IS getting sex at home. This is a ticking time bomb.

I find it very strange that when you go out together and you’re all dressed up and sexy, that you don’t think of sex? Me and DH went out for dinner last night and shagged as soon as we got home. We are mid 50’s.

Shedeboodinia · 19/12/2025 22:35

I am just also adding that it seems like you have never experienced sexual chemistry with someone. Did you have any sexual partners before your husband? I am saying this as when you experience sexual chemistry you can be in the same room as the person and feel a pull and desire to have sex. I think you are possibly missing this key ingredient. It doesn't happen with everyone, but it should happen with your long term partner. Even in low periods of tiredness and stress, there should be an undercurrent, little flirts or touches that spark a memory and a desire even though you might be too tired to do anything about it.
I don't think from your post you have ever had that with him, and possibly not anyone yet. Which makes me think you should call it a day and go and find partners that you do want to have sex with. Life is too short to not experience that element of it.

sharkstale · 19/12/2025 22:39

I feel sorry for your husband

Holdonforsummer · 19/12/2025 22:39

You’re just not that into him. And he has realised that. Maybe you should too.

TightlyLacedCorset · 19/12/2025 22:41

WeevilIntent · 19/12/2025 21:58

The reason he won't make any effort to engage in non-sexual intimacy is because it is actually painful. It's like being on a strict diet and someone puts a big cream cake on the table and says, 'you can slice it up, but not eat any'! When you have been sex deprived by your much-loved partner for years, touching them just reminds you of what you're not getting.

This makes a lot of sense. Another possibility is that he’s stopped engaging in non-sexual intimacy because OP always interpreted it as him “trying to set it up to initiate something sexual”. If that’s not what he was doing, OP was shutting down sexual advances he wasn’t even making and that can be a bizarrely painful experience. I’ve been on the receiving end of it - I knew he wasn’t interested in sex but I still wanted to be close to him, and as I didn’t want him to feel pressured I was very careful not to do anything he might think was an attempt to initiate. Despite that, he consistently thought I was trying to steer things towards sex, so would turn me down immediately - cutting the cuddles short and making it clear he wasn’t in the mood. It felt strangely embarrassing, and after this had been happening for a while I realised being rejected when I wasn’t trying anything (I’d given up on that months before) felt worse than when he’d turned down actual advances. I didn’t want to keep putting myself through it, so I stopped trying to be affectionate as well.

That makes a lot of sense!

I hope the situation is better now!💐

JasmineTea11 · 19/12/2025 22:42

No offence OP, but I'm surprised he's stayed this long.

HK04 · 19/12/2025 22:44

No sex for 3 years is really hard for most men. We are all tired. Tell me an adult who isn’t!? You did drop the ball for his 40th. People find time to do what’s important to them end of. Not surprised he broke down.
This is serious OP. With any luck he won’t have already checked out but FGS either try and meet his needs too or let him go.

OakleyAnnie · 19/12/2025 22:51

Relationships have to be worked at and you seem to have taken a back seat. You say you enjoy sex when you have it but rarely want it. And that you’re tired a lot of the time.

I think you need to prioritise your relationship. Set time aside for your husband, for intimacy / fun time. Get a babysitter and go away but a weekend, catch up on sleep and being together. Women sometimes need to get themselves in the mood and then you might want to initiate sex. You can’t leave it all up to him.

of course you’re not obliged to have sex but tbh if he was posting about this relationship my advice would be to leave you and find someone willing to make the effort.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 19/12/2025 22:51

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

I'm a good deal older than you... And I'd be wanting to leave purely on the lack of sex!

Have you been checked out medically? What's changed as you've said you used to. Enjoy a happy fulfilling sex life?

I'd be doing everything I could to get this back on track... Get some psychology /relationship sessions?

And if your partner seems to want to discuss it... PLEASE let him speak... If you want to keep him.

NewGirlInTown · 19/12/2025 22:58

I truly hope this guy is having an affair. Living in this cold, sterile, marriage would be a killer.
You used him to get your kids and you’ve treated him with disdain ever since. You sound a remarkably cold fish, in all aspects. Awful.

Hippobot · 19/12/2025 23:00

DO you actually like him though? You've been together a long time and from such a young age. Do you actually see him as a romantic partner or just a best friend/father/life partner? Having been in a relationship where the other person didn't want to have sex with me, it definitely ruined my self esteem. I've been single now for 4 years and have resigned myself to lifelong celibacy because I think I'm too repugnant for anyone to ever want to be with me ever again.

I think if you were still attracted to him you'd want to have sex with him and I reckon if you got with a new guy that you really fancied you'd definitely feel like sex.

swingingbytheseat · 19/12/2025 23:03

What does ‘not being great at booking stuff’ mean ? You’re an adult .

ILoveLaLaLand · 19/12/2025 23:03

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 18:18

Thank you for understanding. I do fancy him, and when we did have sex I did enjoy it, but I don't find myself craving it.

When we are intimate in a non-sexual way, like cuddling up for a movie, I have always felt like that was where he was heading, like he was trying to set it up to initiate something sexual, rather than actually wanting to spend time with me. Since he stopped trying to initiate things sexually, he has stopped any efforts to have non-sexual intimacy, which backs that up. So I do feel like he's only interested in intimacy if it has a chance of leading to sex and that puts so much pressure on.

He will still make nice gestures, but they're not intimate things. It's like organising a dinner with my friends, it was nice, but then we had a 1 hr drive home and I didn't want sex, not that he asked for it anyway.

I'm not trying to sound good or bad, I am just trying to explain why I find that I don't want sex. If I can lie in bed and watch tv, it's relaxing, sex feels like it has expectations and pressure, and all he's interested in intimacy for.

It might be worth having some therapy for such a low sex drive in a young woman. It could also be diet-related - worth looking into in any event.
It sounds like you view marriage like a platonic relationship with a man with children. I doubt any men view it that way.

Hippobot · 19/12/2025 23:04

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:46

Ok, I understand I am a large part of this and I need to do better. I do get that. Having children is hard, I work 3 days a week and the kids have a lot of sports clubs and stuff that I do all the work for (except my son's football club, where DH is a coach). In the evenings I am just shattered quite honestly and sex doesn't really enter my mind. He often has to get work stuff done in the evenings so is often on his laptop next to me on the sofa and then when its time for bed, I do alone.

What if I said to him we should try again, forget everything that has happened on the past and start like we're first dating again?

I know this looks bad but no, I haven't booked anything yet. It sort of feels now like I'd only be booking it because he'd bought it up.

But surely it's worse if you STILL don't book anything despite him bringing it up. That tells him you really couldn't give a fuck, even when he's explained that you not booking anything made him feel like you didn't care. It's like doubling down on that and confirming to him that that's true. He has communicated something and you're going to ignore his feelings about it. I hardly ever say this but I actually feel sorry for the guy.

LadyBlakeneysHanky · 19/12/2025 23:05

Oh my god this is so shocking. You’ve basically deprived this poor man of a sex life for years - and you simply don’t see that. You think it’s pretty much normal and reasonable! No wonder he is depressed!

It is not him breaking up the family OP - you broke up the marriage years ago. You just never noticed, because you genuinely don’t understand what an intimate relationship is meant to be, or what others’ emotional and sexual needs are, or how to treat someone with empathy and affection.

Obviously you shouldn’t have sex if you don’t want to! But you should also understand that if your sex life with your partner is over (or never actually started!), then your partner is fully entitled to leave. So please let this poor man re-start his life in the hope that after 23 years he may meet someone who wants and loves him! He is a person with feelings, not a household appliance.

Let him go with grace, not complaining and blaming him - and before starting any other relationship, please please have therapy to investigate why you have such little understanding of the emotional needs of others. Even if you don’t want to get involved with another man (or woman) you really need to do this because your current catastrophic lack of understanding of others’ emotional needs, and ability to empathise, will, ultimately, have adverse effects on your relationship with your children, too,

Bloozie · 19/12/2025 23:06

ILoveLaLaLand · 19/12/2025 23:03

It might be worth having some therapy for such a low sex drive in a young woman. It could also be diet-related - worth looking into in any event.
It sounds like you view marriage like a platonic relationship with a man with children. I doubt any men view it that way.

This isn't a man thing. Many women won't view it that way either. I don't want to be in a platonic relationship with my husband.

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