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Husband threatening to leave

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LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 16:08

I’m posting because I don’t really know who else to talk to about this and I could use some perspective.

I’ve been with my husband since we were 18 - 23 years together, married for 12, with three children. We are both now 41. Our day to day relationship is good, he makes me laugh, we rarely argue, he's a good and hard working dad.

Over the years though, our sex life has been quite limited. I struggle to be able to relax and even in our late teens / early 20s, I might only want sex occasionally. Obviously he would try it on a lot of more often than that, and this made me feel pressured, which would make me shut down even more. That's not to say we didn't have fun, because we had some really good periods in our relationship where we might have sex once or twice a month, but there were other times where we might have sex a couple of times a year. He would then try to talk about it but I basically felt the discussion was always about pressuring me into having sex I didn't want, so the conversations were always difficult.

When we got engaged I felt really safe and secure and we had a really good regular sex life, around once a month, for about three years, and I had a planned pregnancy in 2016. Obviously having a baby changes things and it was 18 months before I felt ready to resume things, but I wanted another baby so that helped push things along and second time round I got pregnant with twins.

About 18 months after having the twins he'd tried many times to start things up again but I was tired and felt pressured again, so he then kept trying to start talking about it, which led to friction. Things did start up eventually and it's always fun when we do it, I do climax often when we have sex, but I know it just takes a lot to get me relaxed enough to want it and having 3 kids doesn't leave us much space or time.

We had sex about 5 times in the next 2-3 years but he was trying things on like at least twice a month. Then he just stopped and it made life a bit easier if I am honest because I wasn't feeling this pressure all the time for sex, so we could enjoy each other's company a bit more without that expectation. But because he stopped asking, we haven't had sex now for 3 years.

The last year or so I think he's started suffering from depression, although he hasn't said that directly, but he seems to struggle with life, getting up and going to a job he's always enjoyed seems a big stress for him, he's put on quite a bit of weight, he stays up really late (he never comes to bed with me) and is always tired a grump as a result. We had an argument last week and from that he started to cry (which he never does, he's literally cried maybe twice before in the whole 23 years we've been together) and said he feels unwanted and has no confidence or self-esteem and he thinks I don't even like him. I asked why and he referenced his 40th birthday, which was in Jan 2024, because I didn't get him a present and promised instead we would go away for a weekend. I haven't got round to booking anything yet, it slipped my mind if I am honest and I am rubbish at organising stuff anyway. He then started comparing it to my 40th, as he did make a lot of effort for that (a surprise dinner with a group of my friends and my mum), and said that basically he doesn't feel like I care about him in a romantic sense.

He’s now said that if things don’t improve, he doesn’t know if he can stay in the marriage. That feels like an ultimatum and has made me feel very anxious and defensive, because I genuinely don’t know how to change how I feel about sex, and I don’t want to be having sex just to keep him happy.

But I don't want to lose him or have him break up our family.

OP posts:
GrooveArmada · 19/12/2025 18:57

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 19/12/2025 18:56

It’s was supposed to be a birthday present, why should he have to organise it himself?

As for trying to insinuate that the OP’s lack if interest or care for her husband is because he doesn’t help out enough at home - she works part time, and never said he doesn’t pull his weight.

Completely agree with this.

There'll always be one defending what's, frankly, indefensible behaviour.

Everleigh13 · 19/12/2025 19:00

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 18:18

Thank you for understanding. I do fancy him, and when we did have sex I did enjoy it, but I don't find myself craving it.

When we are intimate in a non-sexual way, like cuddling up for a movie, I have always felt like that was where he was heading, like he was trying to set it up to initiate something sexual, rather than actually wanting to spend time with me. Since he stopped trying to initiate things sexually, he has stopped any efforts to have non-sexual intimacy, which backs that up. So I do feel like he's only interested in intimacy if it has a chance of leading to sex and that puts so much pressure on.

He will still make nice gestures, but they're not intimate things. It's like organising a dinner with my friends, it was nice, but then we had a 1 hr drive home and I didn't want sex, not that he asked for it anyway.

I'm not trying to sound good or bad, I am just trying to explain why I find that I don't want sex. If I can lie in bed and watch tv, it's relaxing, sex feels like it has expectations and pressure, and all he's interested in intimacy for.

I’m confused about something: what is wrong with it being a 1 hour drive home after dinner? What difference does that make? It almost sounds like you’re saying he did something wrong by there being a drive home afterwards.

MsCactus · 19/12/2025 19:02

I actually think you should split up - your sex drives are so mismatched, it's going to cause upset,/resentment on both sides. I've been with my DH a long time and we always have sex once a week - I would feel pretty undesirable if he didn't want to!

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 19/12/2025 19:03

OP would you be open to him looking for his sexual needs being met elsewhere, like an open marriage type arrangement?

It might take the pressure off you, but you still get the nice comfortable set up of family life.

It might be something to think about as an alternative to divorce.

OneFineDay22 · 19/12/2025 19:03

I can totally see where your DH is coming from. I think most people would feel unloved and undesired if their partner never wanted sex, never wanted intimacy in case it might lead to sex, didn’t make any effort for their birthday, didn’t keep their promises and just generally didn’t prioritise making their partner feel loved…

If this is salvageable it will be couples counselling or therapy for you both. And a big effort to show him you do actually care.

boxofbuttons · 19/12/2025 19:04

I mean, it isn't an ultimatum - he's just finally being honest. You don't make him feel loved or valued in any way, not just sex, and it's making him miserable. You need to have an honest conversation about what you're both willing to do to make this work and then independently decide if what's on the table is enough for you both to be happy in the marriage. But I wouldn't stay with someone who didn't want to have sex with me and didn't care to show me love in other ways either.

anonacfr · 19/12/2025 19:05

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 19/12/2025 18:56

It’s was supposed to be a birthday present, why should he have to organise it himself?

As for trying to insinuate that the OP’s lack if interest or care for her husband is because he doesn’t help out enough at home - she works part time, and never said he doesn’t pull his weight.

I had a similar situation after a bereavement.
Christmas a few weeks later, my mother didn't give me a present, on the day wrote me a bullshit spa voucher thing, then asked me to book it and she'd pay for it.
1st world problem but I was so hurt.
Felt like another chore to add to the list of shitty ones I was dealing with.
I didn't book it and it was never mentioned again.
The more I think about it, the more upset it makes me.

anonacfr · 19/12/2025 19:05

It's not the actual gift, it's the lack of... give a shit.

gardenflowergirl · 19/12/2025 19:06

I wouldn't call sex once a month a good sex life, at all. He likely thought there'd be more once you were married. Sounds like he's depressed feeling unloved and unwanted and I don't blame him. A good sex life is more like 2-3 times a week, to give you some perspective. What do you think he's doing about it when you refuse him? Has it occured to you that he's sorting himself out? Doesn't bode well for the future.

GarlicRound · 19/12/2025 19:06

OneFineDay22 · 19/12/2025 19:03

I can totally see where your DH is coming from. I think most people would feel unloved and undesired if their partner never wanted sex, never wanted intimacy in case it might lead to sex, didn’t make any effort for their birthday, didn’t keep their promises and just generally didn’t prioritise making their partner feel loved…

If this is salvageable it will be couples counselling or therapy for you both. And a big effort to show him you do actually care.

She doesn't, though, does she 😥 She apparently cares about being married, not the human she's married to.

bananafake · 19/12/2025 19:08

Ellie56 · 19/12/2025 18:41

I quite often tell women on here that the men in their lives are shit husbands/partners but I have never thought the same about a woman until now.

Quite frankly you are a shit wife. I cannot believe you did nothing for your DH's special birthday after he did such a lovely thing for yours.

This is about more than lack of sex. It is now nearly 2 years later and and you still haven't done anything about the weekend away. No wonder your poor DH feels unwanted and unloved. No wonder he's thinking about splitting up. What is there for him to stay for?

Being no good at organising is no excuse. You put reminders on your phone, write notes to put on your desk, whatever.

In fact, to put it bluntly, if you really want to hang on to your marriage, you need to wake up, get your fucking arse into gear right now and arrange something spectacular to show your husband you love him. And keep on showing him you love him.

Although quite honestly, I think your DH can do better than you. I think he deserves better too.

I’m afraid I agree with this OP.

There are so many shit men about and it enrages me that someone with a decent one treats him so badly and with so little love and care. What do you think you’d be happy with? I suspect nothing would be quite enough. You complain about him pressuring you for sex and say that puts you off but he doesn’t ask for THREE YEARS and you still don’t initiate it. You say you’re always tired but don’t you ever go on holidays together?

The birthday thing is unforgivable.

Cut this poor man loose and let him find someone who really loves him.

skippy67 · 19/12/2025 19:08

You sound really selfish. Let him go and hopefully find someone who cares about him.

LiteraryBambi · 19/12/2025 19:08

I think you should let him go so he can find someone who really loves and values him.

Sex once a month is not regular. Sounds like you only had sex with him to get pregnant anyway.

And it's horrid that you haven't organised the trip you promised him for his birthday, almost two years later.

Have you booked it now that you have "remembered"? Or you still can't be arsed?

DivorcedAndDelighted · 19/12/2025 19:09

This is so sad as you clearly love him, but he is unlikely to feel very loved with a sex life that was very infrequent even in the "good" periods. For most men, having regular sex is a vital part of feeling loved (unless there is a physical reason you can't, and they've made peace with that). The path of trying to support the marriage here involves learning about responsive desire and understanding that if you give your sex drive a chance to kick in, you may enjoy it a lot more often.

www.drpsychmom.com/responsive-desire-in-women-if-youre-never-in-the-mood-thats-normal/

This article is good for explaining how it feels to someone who finds sex vital in a relationship :
https://www.drpsychmom.com/2020/01/12/when-women-consider-physical-touch-to-be-a-less-real-or-important-love-language/ When Women Consider Physical Touch To Be A Less Real or Important Love Language

And here's a great one for men to read:
https://www.drpsychmom.com/2017/07/04/make-wife-want-sexually-without-chores/ If You Massage Your Wife More, She May Want A Lot More Sex

ShawnaMacallister · 19/12/2025 19:09

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 18:18

Thank you for understanding. I do fancy him, and when we did have sex I did enjoy it, but I don't find myself craving it.

When we are intimate in a non-sexual way, like cuddling up for a movie, I have always felt like that was where he was heading, like he was trying to set it up to initiate something sexual, rather than actually wanting to spend time with me. Since he stopped trying to initiate things sexually, he has stopped any efforts to have non-sexual intimacy, which backs that up. So I do feel like he's only interested in intimacy if it has a chance of leading to sex and that puts so much pressure on.

He will still make nice gestures, but they're not intimate things. It's like organising a dinner with my friends, it was nice, but then we had a 1 hr drive home and I didn't want sex, not that he asked for it anyway.

I'm not trying to sound good or bad, I am just trying to explain why I find that I don't want sex. If I can lie in bed and watch tv, it's relaxing, sex feels like it has expectations and pressure, and all he's interested in intimacy for.

You sound like you've caught him out by saying that now he knows there's no chance of sex he doesn't try to cuddle you as if he's been awful and manipulative. In reality he's probably so rejected by you that he doesn't want to try to initiate any intimacy. Have you ever spoken to him about the pressure you feel? Ever asked him for a cuddle with the explicit proviso of it not leading any further?

Cakeandcardio · 19/12/2025 19:09

I read somewhere (maybe here?) that women need to feel close to want to have sex and men need to have sex to feel close. It made a lot of sense to me.
I have also read that if you don't want sex then you aren't healthy. It is hard with babies but you should want to be intimate with your husband so this is something you could look to address? I think your husband has been understanding but is also entitled to be happy. And I say that from a place of having two young children and knowing how hard it is to want to have sex when you are exhausted.

butterpuffed · 19/12/2025 19:11

This thread is really sad . OP comes across as if she wants to stay with him as long as she can carry on her own terms with excuses like being busy , tired etc. And that's apart from the sex life.

Poor man, I hope he finds some happiness somewhere with someone who values him .

Sunflower459 · 19/12/2025 19:12

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 19/12/2025 18:32

Somebody wanting to leave a relationship where they have been sexually rejected FOR YEARS, that doesn’t somehow make them a bad person.
I’m glad that you found someone who was willing to stick with you through your issues, but many people wouldn’t have.
And that doesn’t make them bad, or wrong - it just means the relationship is no longer working for them.

The OP’s husband is not the problem here.

I mean, at no point have I suggested that OP’s husband is a bad person or ‘the problem’. He sounds like a good man, if you ask me. And I’m joyfully aware of how lucky I am to have my partner, whose willingness to love and support me through shitty times has never waned. He’s a rare thing, I hit the jackpot with him, and I tell him that every day. The only thing I think a lot of posters are overlooking is that there could be something more complex going on here than a simple ‘OP is mean/cruel/purposefully withholding’, and that’s why she needs to seek professional help rather than a righteous dressing down from an internet forum. I’m honestly surprised that’s controversial.

Notthehill · 19/12/2025 19:14

The tone of this strikes as odd.....Is this thread a 'reverse' by any chance? OP are you the husband?

YourWinter · 19/12/2025 19:15

You aren’t obliged to have sex if you don’t want to, but you cannot impose your choice to be pretty much celibate on your husband. Plenty of couples still find their partners attractive after 20+ years, plenty are prepared to make their partners feel desired. It is a fact that sex, warmly given and received, can be the difference between a relationship thriving or failing.

Your marriage has nothing left for your husband to want to save. Sooner or later he’ll sleep with someone else, sooner or later you’ll find out, and only you can decide how you process that but frankly, you sound as though you really can’t be bothered, and apart from wanting him to get you pregnant, you’ve no inclination to make him feel he matters.

That said, a man who’ll “threaten to leave” is best shown the door. You’ll be ok. Let him go.

Rose213 · 19/12/2025 19:17

Christ. no wonder he's miserable and has put on weight. Whats the point in being in this relationship. Up to you of course if you want sex or not, but this sounds a terrible life to live.

im going through a bit of a rough time with my husband at the moment (young children which are very challenging) and we only have sex about once or twice a month now. That was you at your best?

babasaclover · 19/12/2025 19:18

LatteLady84 · 19/12/2025 17:56

Its been hard to keep up with the flow of posts but thanks everyone for comments. I get that I haven't handled things well. I really do love my husband very much, and we do enjoy our time together. We have nice days out with our children, we have evenings out as a couple and with friends. So we do have good time together.

To explain a couple of points people have asked, I am definitely not gay, and we are each others only ever partners. We were 18 when we got together, 19 when we first had sex and perhaps both of our understandings of a normal relationship have been restricted by our lack of experience outside of our own relationship. I don't think either of us really thought we had met the person we would marry at 18, but we got together and stayed together, and I think it has mostly been happy.

On sex itself, I do have a low drive, I recognise that. But it's also true that I am tired a lot, I tend to be early to bed anyway, so if we got out for example, by the time we get home I am really tired and sex just isn't on my mind. Maybe I have portrayed myself badly from what I have said but I am not a bad person I promise, and I do really want to fix things. I understand the first step is to make more effort and try to change myself, and let him know how much I love him.

I am early to bed and never want sex after we’ve been out as tired / full up from a nice dinner / drinks / want to get my bra and make up off!!!

have you considered having sex before you go out? I do this and then it takes the expectation off when you get home although my husband will always suggest it when we get home as well 😬 but I don’t feel bad turning him down as already done it

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 19/12/2025 19:20

You live together like room mates
Sex has always been an issue for you but you won't discuss it
You couldn't be arsed to organise a present for his 40th birthday

Yeah, I totally get why he's thinking of leaving - what would he stay for?

tara66 · 19/12/2025 19:20

Who said - ''There are no frigid women - just bad lovers''?

CloudSky · 19/12/2025 19:21

Poor guy. A relationship is for two people, it’s incredibly selfish to only be considerate of your own needs. Of course you don’t have to have sex if you don’t want it, but if that’s the case and you know that’s not going to get better you have to engage in the conversations that your husband has been trying to have with you for years! He’s actually doing the right thing here and all you’ve done is shut him down and trap him in a sexless, miserable marriage where he doesn’t even mean enough to you to bother to get him a 40th birthday present. That’s really awful. You’ve reduced him to tears for goodness sake.

Just let him go, everyone deserves to be happy. At the very least you should show him love and affection even if you don’t have sex.