My partner, magic mushrooms and our holiday

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My partner micro doses magic mushrooms daily for mental health reasons (depression). I don’t have an issue with this.
however we are planning our first holiday. Nothing is booked yet but they have said they are planning to take some mushrooms for use there which makes sense but it hadn’t crossed my mind.
im not comfortable travelling with someone who is carrying something illegal. I don’t want to be implicated or get into trouble. I would lose my job.
my partner understands to a point but says this is not what the airport security are looking for and they won’t get caught.
I agree the risk is low however that’s not the point. They are asking me to take a big risk, and even if we don’t get caught I will be super stressed in the run up to the flight, during and whilst waiting for the case.
my partner is playing down the risk but this is not something I’m willing to compromise on.
I know my partner has travelled with friends when carrying these drugs in their bag and the friends have not had an issue with it.
does anyone have any advice Please .

Naivety around drug use. Even microdosing can have future negative implications for the brain in some people. It's fashionable but ppl have no idea the trouble they are storing up. Such naivety around drug use these days. Nauvety around internet use too. And ppl wonder why certain generations have MH priblems. The brain does not exist to have loads of chemicals shoved into it..Helloooooo.

Mushrooms aren't chemicals, they're... well, mushrooms!

How long are you going on holiday for and what's his dosing schedule currently? S.me people do three days on three days off and others do five days on five days off .Can he amend his schedule in the run up so that he's only without his due dose for the shortest amount of time possible? I know people who microdose and none of them would getting caught at an airport. If he was caught and even though the dosage would be low and he evidence that it was microdosing and it was for personal use it is still very much illegal. It's also not like antidepressants where it needs time to build up into his system. So even if he stops for the duration of the holiday , he is not going to be immediately plunged into a deep dark depression.

Where are you going? Maybe you can get some there? Magic Mushrooms are legal in lots of places....

How do people even discover this shit?!

It’s not that niche these days - the Daily Mail has had at least two articles about it this year! (Maybe more, I am not a DM reader but have seen these on social media).

they are made of chemicals though, as is everything. And its the chemical compounds which interfere with brain chemistry.

However people have been using natural hallucinogenics for millenia, and I would argue that within the context of their community it would appear that they have a positive effect on social cohesion and support. Clinical trials have shown some seriously positive results, depending on set and setting, for treatment of drug resistant depression and addiction.
Microdosing is a little on the fence regarding whether it works clinically or placebo. Mini dosing however has a little more behind it - however placebo itself is mighty powerful. Some natural plants can drop you dead, Some synthetic chemicals wont do that.
Should it be a class A? possibly. Its very powerful, but non addictive.

Do I pefer the naturals to the synthetics, which I assume is what you are referring to? again, some and some.....Professor Nutts book about driugs is very informative, as is his website Drug Science.

Would I want to risk carrying any drugs across a border. No. And especially not something that may simply be placebo.

Well how do they have an effect if they dont have brain altering substances in them. Belladonna is a plant but it can kill you. Duh.

Travelling through an airport or past any drugs dogs is a ridiculous risk to take.
I assume he understands that you’ll lose your job if (when) he is stopped & potentially gets a criminal record (obviously this is worse case but for the sake of argument let’s assume so)
If so, he is being completely selfish and irresponsible.

Personally I would not take any foreign trips with him as a result.

I’d also have a serious think about whether I wanted to be with someone who played so fast & loose with my career.

Micro dosing means taking the tiniest amount. So if a standard dose is 500mg for arguments sake, he takes 5-50mg.

he’s not wrong, drug dogs are not trained for mushrooms on the whole as magic mushrooms aren’t very common at all. There aren’t any real tests for them either as it’s not a real priority for the police or cps. If you take too much, it doesn’t mage you violent or paranoid, in fact it can be incredibly healing and transform your life. There are massive amounts of research going into this area at the mental and I personally had a life changing experience taking a large dose after microdosing for months. There is a thread on here, maybe search psilocybin microdosing if anybody wants to learn more. It’s actually really interesting.

and I took some dried Enigma to Corfu without issue, about 10g dry ground powder in 4-5 Capsules in a vitamin tub . But I’m a 46 yo woman and not your typical junky drug mule person.

I didn't say they didn't have brain altering substances, I said they're not chemicals.

Of course everything is made of chemicals, for instance chocolate has a brain altering effect as it increases serotonin, so I assume you don't approve of that either?

I wouldn’t be dating anyone who uses illegal class a drugs , or any drugs for that matter, so definitely wouldn’t be going on holiday with him.
Not much help I know 🤷‍♀️

I would totally gaslight DH if he tried this. I would just replace the magic mushroom stuff with something that looked similar. Ground up Rennie's?? And placebo him for the holiday.

Please don’t take tips from strangers on Mumsnet on how to smuggle class A’s between countries. It’s really not worth risking your entire life / career / savings / reputation for a few days micro-amounts of something that’s not even got a proper evidence base.

Can’t your DP just take some actual legal antidepressants, from the GP/pharmacy? There’s dozens to try. Or can’t he cope whilst there for a few days without the tiny amounts of magic mushrooms? I’d argue that if his symptoms are so severe that he can’t go for a few (stress-free) days on holiday without his trace amounts of magic mushrooms then he should be on a basic script for Sertraline or take a CBT skills book on hol with him - rather than get you both put in prison.

I think ‘dried’ they are, but are ok if not dried.

You might need to check this, it’s a long time since I heard that.

Agree that everything is made of chemicals in the greater scheme of things, humans are made of about 60 apparently, but Daygloboo said the brain wasn't created to have chemicals put into it, but most people enjoy the chemical effect of alcohol, caffeine or even chocolate, so how far should this be taken?

Totally agree that I wouldn't take them across a border, just not worth the risk.

Ilovealeaveinconditioner do you know anything at all about magic mushrooms? I'm not laid back about most drugs especially if they involve gang criminality and harm to vulnerable people, but this is something that grows in fields all over the country and people pick themselves. You have to take a hell of a lot more than a microdose for anyone around you to notice.

Suggesting that someone switches to prescribed antidepressants for a week's holiday is just untenable.

Your partner should be seeking a proper treatment for his depression...

Not using mushrooms everyday

I have no idea why you woukd put up with someone like that..

Dump the druggie.

I'm not naive around drug use. I have 25 years of professional experience in related areas and I'm also an occasional user of mushrooms (twice a year at most) and cannabis and despite being middle aged I've never graduated to crack and heroin...not yet anyway!

There are a lot of scientific studies being and that have been done on psilocybin to treat depression. Just because you haven’t heard of something does not mean it doesn’t have merit! Like almost any other drug, it has medicinal properties in the correct context.

You can't just take antidepressants for a week's holiday!

Microdosing mushrooms is much safer and less harmful than taking antidepressants

How long are you going for? Normally with micro dosing you take days off anyways (eg take for 4 days, off for 3) to maximise benefits.

The brain does not exist to have loads of chemicals shoved into it..Helloooooo.

What about the never ending list of chemicals we shove into it with a doctors prescription? What about people on life long medications and antidepressants ? You are using big words to demonise one thing which equate to something quite normal and in fact necessary. Of course the brain can need chemicals shoved into it. Serious depression is a distinct medical lack of certain things being produced. Patient survival depends on finding a way to shove those things in there and making it stick.