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Something feels off - could he be gay?

151 replies

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 04:29

Been on 4 very good dates with a genuinely lovely guy. He’s been exemplary in terms of how he’s treated me, organised everything, chosen beautiful restaurants, just been very ‘gentlemanly’ and thoughtful. He makes me feel very safe. He’s been so consistent and intentional.

We kissed for the first time on the first date and he seemed pretty attracted to me. 3rd date we spent like an hour just kissing at a booth at the bar. 4th date was at his place, he cooked me dinner so it was kind of implied this would be a sex date.

After dinner I had to suggest we go upstairs and then we couldn’t actually have sex because he couldn’t get hard. He said it was common for him with new partners and was a mental thing. He did express an interest in making sure I was satisfied but didn’t go down on me. It kind of just felt like that really strong sort of ‘passion’ or desire was missing though, I don’t know if that’s because he couldn’t follow through. I’ve never actually experienced this with a guy before.

Then the next day he told me he had a hair appointment later and just randomly made a comment about his hair stylist seeming really straight but referenced a male partner recently so he was surprised he was actually gay. It seemed an odd thing to randomly mention.
Over breakfast he was talking a lot about gay / lesbian people at his company and how they were actively looking to increase their LGBT hires, again a bit random to mention.
On date 2 we ordered cocktails and his was very pink and I jokingly said just as well he was comfortable with his masculinity / sexuality and he went a bit OTT and said ‘oh I’m VERY comfortable with my sexuality’ and it just seemed a bit of an excessive reaction.

Looks wise I am very feminine, I have long hair, slim but curvy with boobs and a bum. He seems attracted to me in that he will instigate physical affection and kiss me a lot but there just seems to be something ‘missing’ that I’ve had with other men where they just kind of have less… control around me almost. I haven’t felt like I’ve had to ‘fend him off’ or set the pace sexually like I have with other men, although dinner at his on the 4th date was his suggestion. But maybe I am used to men being less respectful!

I am mid thirties he is mid forties, divorced, two kids. His ex-wife was unfaithful. Been around 4 years since they split and has not had any LTRs in that time. From what he has told me it’s all fizzled out around the 3/4th date mark. He got married pretty young. He seems keen to settle down and have more kids.

I honestly don’t know if I am over thinking this but something just feels ‘off’ - the ED thing has really thrown me but it was more he just also didn’t seem wildly turned on even. For context (and not needlessly being big headed!) I am very conventionally attractive and tend to get a lot of attention from men generally. He’s made comments about how much he fancies me. But I don’t know, the other night has thrown me. In every other way it has seemed a little too good to be true because he is so lovely and thoughtful and seems really eager to please me and see me a lot. He doesn’t have any sort of effeminate mannerisms or present in that way at all but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. This is honestly not an ego thing and if I felt like he just didn’t fancy me that would be totally fine, but his consistency in organising dates etc and otherwise pursuing me don’t suggest that, and then I suppose it’s the other things which seem small but have me wondering…

Please be kind as I feel really vulnerable posting this. I hope I am wrong but I can’t shake this feeling and not sure if I am just paranoid because I’ve had such bad experiences with men in the past / if I’m just looking for problems. I really do like him as well. First person I could have actually seen myself having a long term relationship with in ages.

I’ve never encountered the performance anxiety thing before either so not sure how I should handle that, just wait to see if it resolves and maybe I will have my answer. He’s already organising dates 5 and 6 so as I said he seems keen.

I don’t know I guess I just feel flat and a bit disappointed and just like something is wrong 😞

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Ohdearwhatnow4 · 09/12/2025 12:07

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 08:10

Yeah there’s definitely a spark, at least there is my side, but normally with guys I just feel like there’s this constant undertone of trying to shag me whereas this feels just sort of calmer and more controlled and I’m not used to it.

If theirs a spark you have nothing to loose and everything to gain. In the nicest way sometimes a change is good and theirs a reasin why your other relationships haven't worked.
I'd personally just get to know him and have fun, and more importantly talk to him.

Retro12 · 09/12/2025 12:42

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 08:05

We were talking as well and it was private, calm down

Take no notice - A lot of women on here are living with "dead bedrooms" Not used to having passion in their lives 😆

waterrat · 09/12/2025 12:53

Could be a porn addict!

newlandnewbie · 09/12/2025 12:56

Firstly the amount of closeted gay men who actively want to get married have kids is unreal and its more prevalent in middle/upper class circles I would say to be closeted gay due to inheritance etc. Like you I am pretty/attractive etc and almost have felt at times I almost attract them more and I have had a fair few experiences in the dating sphere like you are having with potential closeted ones. You almost develop a radar for it and some women are much better than others in discerning it. Some women do not have a clue at all in regards to it. I actively meet newly weds in social circles and the minute I meet them in my mind I am like 'oh no hes gay' but she cannot see it. Closeted gay men will bit by bit wear you down and many women with them end up mentally unwell and cannot quite put their finger on whats wrong. Yes I do agree with what others say ED happens from 40s onwards for some men, others much later on. However you need to thoroughly get to the bottom of why they separated and be careful for disease STIs etc. Really dig and meet his friends family etc. My friend was seeing a guy in his 40s- divorced small kids and when she met his parents after a few drinks his dad said I believe he is gay my dear. Lucky for my friend this was confirmation- as sexually there was only one position he wanted and it all made sense. Like the movie brobrack mountain. Just be careful and really dig and trust your gut.

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 13:26

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 11:17

I genuinely don’t understand why you would think he was gay from what you’ve written. He sounds like a nice guy who had a bit of performance anxiety.

My DH took me to the gay village and drank sparky cocktails on one of our first dates. Didn’t mean he was gay!

Just to clarify it wasn’t the drink itself it was his reaction to my comment to it which seemed OTT!

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 13:39

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 13:26

Just to clarify it wasn’t the drink itself it was his reaction to my comment to it which seemed OTT!

Why was it OTT?
He’s comfortable with his sexuality. And clearly comfortable with other people being different to him. Why is that a bad thing? Doesn’t mean he’s gay.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 13:43

I’d actually say you commenting on him drinking a pink drink is more of an issue tbh
You brought up the issue of masculinity/sexuality not him

Mamadothehump · 09/12/2025 14:41

Retro12 · 09/12/2025 12:42

Take no notice - A lot of women on here are living with "dead bedrooms" Not used to having passion in their lives 😆

My sex life is amazing thanks, I just leaving the “kissing for an hour in a bar” to the teenagers 🙄

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 14:57

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 13:43

I’d actually say you commenting on him drinking a pink drink is more of an issue tbh
You brought up the issue of masculinity/sexuality not him

I made an offhand comment because the bartender accidentally mixed our drinks up based on what they looked like. So it wasn’t me that made the original presumption.

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Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 14:58

Mamadothehump · 09/12/2025 14:41

My sex life is amazing thanks, I just leaving the “kissing for an hour in a bar” to the teenagers 🙄

No need to be so miserable about it, it was basically empty and private, and I was mentioning it in the context there has clearly been at least some level of attraction / chemistry and I wasn’t at the stage where I would have gone back to his.

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Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 15:00

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 11:17

I genuinely don’t understand why you would think he was gay from what you’ve written. He sounds like a nice guy who had a bit of performance anxiety.

My DH took me to the gay village and drank sparky cocktails on one of our first dates. Didn’t mean he was gay!

No and I hope I’m just overthinking I’m just not used to the whole thing to be honest because the men I’ve dated in the past have been very different.
I feel vulnerable because I like him. I don’t want to be an idiot and have not considered it but I appreciate this is probably more of a me issue. It doesn’t mean it never happens though.

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Silverbirchleaf · 09/12/2025 15:01

Is he diabetic? It can affect performance.

Lilaclane · 09/12/2025 15:08

ChamonixMountainBum · 09/12/2025 08:13

As others have said it should not be this hard (no pun intended). The early months of dating should be thrilling and exciting and not tying yourself up in knots thinking about his sexuality due to pink cocktails, hair stylists and you not 'fending' him off.

Agree with this 100%

I also briefly dated a man with ED. He was 34. I never found out the root cause (nor was I interested in the end), but he didn't warrant an in-depth analysis. Oh, and he's now with another woman!

Life is too short for disappointing sex - especially in the early dating stages when everything he does should have you beaming. And sure, you could be sympathetic and understanding, and it may be his grief/performance concerns etc,. But honestly, there are considerate, lovely men out there whose behaviour (sexual and otherwise) won't prompt you to post on Mumsnet as you'll be too busy enjoying him.

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 15:27

Silverbirchleaf · 09/12/2025 15:01

Is he diabetic? It can affect performance.

Nope honestly he’s not in his sixties, with diabetes and horrific hair loss 😂

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 15:55

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 14:57

I made an offhand comment because the bartender accidentally mixed our drinks up based on what they looked like. So it wasn’t me that made the original presumption.

Presumption of what though? A pink drink must mean you're gay?
You seem to have some issues with stereotypes which are clouding your judgement.

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 16:00

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 15:55

Presumption of what though? A pink drink must mean you're gay?
You seem to have some issues with stereotypes which are clouding your judgement.

No it was his reaction to my offhand comment which seemed overly defensive, of course I don’t think ordering a pink drink makes you gay 🙄

and alongside the other stuff / his slightly out of context and random preoccupation with the subject just made me wonder if I was being overly paranoid. That’s it.

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 16:07

Why make the off hand comment though? How did you expect him to respond to your comment? I'm not sure he could win in that situation.

From what you've said, I really don't understand why you think he's gay.
It all just sounds like general conversation to me rather than a preoccupation with LGBT people.
It's not uncommon for men to get ED when they're nervous and definitely doesn't mean they're gay.

Retro12 · 09/12/2025 16:10

Mamadothehump · 09/12/2025 14:41

My sex life is amazing thanks, I just leaving the “kissing for an hour in a bar” to the teenagers 🙄

Why the 🙄If it's not for you cool... No need to be so miserable!

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 16:20

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 16:07

Why make the off hand comment though? How did you expect him to respond to your comment? I'm not sure he could win in that situation.

From what you've said, I really don't understand why you think he's gay.
It all just sounds like general conversation to me rather than a preoccupation with LGBT people.
It's not uncommon for men to get ED when they're nervous and definitely doesn't mean they're gay.

We both ordered drinks, the bartender gave him mine and me his because it was pink so I made an offhand comment about the gender stereotyping and said just as well he was comfortable in his sexuality or something and he was very forthright in saying how completely comfortable he was in his sexuality and it came across quite OTT to the point I thought it was a bit odd at the time.

yes I hope you’re right and he isn’t, because I really fancy him and he has all the qualities I want in a partner, minus the performance anxiety which I am hoping is very much temporary. Sometimes you get niggles about things though and it’s hard to fully articulate why in a short post on MN and I have given a few more overt examples but also more generally he’s just not the type of guy I’m used to, and so may be interpreting it all wrong.

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 09/12/2025 16:28

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 16:20

We both ordered drinks, the bartender gave him mine and me his because it was pink so I made an offhand comment about the gender stereotyping and said just as well he was comfortable in his sexuality or something and he was very forthright in saying how completely comfortable he was in his sexuality and it came across quite OTT to the point I thought it was a bit odd at the time.

yes I hope you’re right and he isn’t, because I really fancy him and he has all the qualities I want in a partner, minus the performance anxiety which I am hoping is very much temporary. Sometimes you get niggles about things though and it’s hard to fully articulate why in a short post on MN and I have given a few more overt examples but also more generally he’s just not the type of guy I’m used to, and so may be interpreting it all wrong.

I honestly think you can disregard the drink comment as I'm not sure what else he could respond to your initial comment.

The person you describe sounds very much like my DH. He was also very different to my previous partner who would have made homophobic comments as opposed to talking abut LGBT issues openly. I found it refreshing but only you can decide if he's right for you.

racierach · 09/12/2025 16:32

My partner couldn’t get it up first time. It was nerves pure and simple.
he’s the best sex I’ve ever had.
him discussing gay stuff - I’d be pleased he’s not homophobic and open minded.
but if it’s not right for you then it’s not right.

Whatsthatsheila · 09/12/2025 16:41

Offer to peg him and see if that gets his attention?

maybe he likes things a little less conventional- doesn’t mean he’s gay

Staybymw · 09/12/2025 16:45

Is 40 really old enough to have ED issues as standard? Seems so young!

CraftyPlayer · 09/12/2025 16:49

Could be gay. Could be a porn addict. Could be many reasons really, but it’s not a great start. I’d throw this one back.

Pigglywink · 09/12/2025 16:49

Staybymw · 09/12/2025 16:45

Is 40 really old enough to have ED issues as standard? Seems so young!

He said it was completely mental and not a physical thing but I guess time will tell.

@Whatsthatsheila i won’t be offering to peg him 😂 and I really really hope he doesn’t ask me to!

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