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The behaviour around this man?

105 replies

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 16:33

His history.

*child at 15 with a 24 year old.

At 19 another child with a 27 year old. They got married. Didn't last . Separated when he was 24. He admitted he had messed this up and she was his true love. Due to being young he choose to party and drink and admitted not wanting to be tied down. He remained a good dad after the split.

Another relationship lasting a couple of years followed at 28.

In his early 30s he was with another woman and lasted around 2 years.

Then he was engaged and lived with another woman 18 months around the age of 37

He then had a 3 month thing with a woman but they kept arguing.

He then had a 16 month relationship with a mum of 4 kids. The youngest was a year old. He had limited interest in the other 3 boys who were 12 ish and 11. He got super obsessed with this child and the mum let him be dad to this boy. He got tattoos and they changed the kids surname. Proposed after 8 months. At 16 months she threw him out. She let him keep access.

2 months on we get together, i knew very littls of his past. We had a 6 month dating and then relationship. He would not tell the kids mum about me. I was therefore not posted on fb etc. She kept asking for his help on her weekends and he always said yes. He was obsessed with the child. He told me the mums hygiene was poor and she was an all round selfish wonan who neglected her smallest son, he described that as the reason he was so close go the boy. She forced him to rebuy everything for his flat and made his life hard to keep access. After 3 months she started hanging about under posts on his business page. He still refused to tell her saying she was spiteful and would use the child as a weapon. I eventually told him if he didnt tell her by January id walk away. He went through all the emotions over the next week. Sad. Confused. Felt we kept arguing. He said he needed to be alone but wasnt going back to her. I felt so frustrated thaf i contacted her. The result.

24 hour later profile photos and rekindled. He took her out on our date thix weekend we had planned. He absolutely trashed that woman to death.

I want to ask

What does he comd across to you?
Why does she think shes someone he cant get over? She told him any woman after her was always a rebound. I showed her everything including shots of him saying she smelt and was a terrible person
. She was a complete idiot and would never get him back.. the result was she had her knickers back off in 24 hours and called him the love of her life.

Why am i soneone who deserves this cruelty from him. He lived at my house half the week and we had holidays etc.

Long post. Working on myself anc i know lessons need to be learned. But i need some help making sense of this man who appeared very loving.

OP posts:
FoxLoxInSox · 08/12/2025 17:26

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:24

Shd threw him out and abused him for 3 months then started flirting with my boyfriend and then slept with him the night i told her we had been together. She then boasted online.

I am struggling and not sleeping thats why i came here but i knew id be blamed and told i shouldn't be upset

Edited

Gently, OP, are you drinking alcohol right now? Your posts have become quite jumbled over the course of the past half hour. If you’re drinking whilst upset, please be careful 🫂

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 08/12/2025 17:28

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:19

If matters just now because i want to know why she was worthy and i wasnt.

DO NOT base your self-worth on the choices of this vile excuse of a man.

Nobody thinks of a thief: "Why did he burgle my neighbour's house and not mine? Is it because her stuff is better than mine? Why am I not worthy of being burgled?".

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/12/2025 17:29

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:25

Because i wanted our relationship to be open and real

And being mentioned on his FB page would achieve this?

Glowingup · 08/12/2025 17:29

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:25

Because i wanted our relationship to be open and real

But he was never into you. Sorry. He just used you. He wanted her back all along, hence all the vitriol because he was trying to kid himself that he was over her after she chucked him out. As soon as she said he could come back, he was there. That’s just how it is. If you accept that, it will be easier.

Also please tell me he didn’t meet your kids.

Toooldtopretend · 08/12/2025 17:30

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:25

Because i wanted our relationship to be open and real

Yes you wanted that. The fact he didn’t speaks volumes. You need to change your mindset and appreciate that you have had a lucky escape - this is not someone to build a life with.

FoxLoxInSox · 08/12/2025 17:31

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:25

Because i wanted our relationship to be open and real

If you mean ‘open and real’ to be shared on social media - why was this important to you, to have it shared on SM that you were willing to debase yourself enough to be with this kind of man?
If I’d been dating a man with so many red flags I wouldn’t be desperate to have that widely known.

Theres a real element of insecurity and jealousy here - you feel inferior to his ex, and want him to be yours. But why? He’s appalling. Please, you have a child, you need to not be sucked into this level of chaos by a walking red flag and then be so destabilised by it.

Wowcha · 08/12/2025 17:31

I showed her everything including shots of him saying she smelt and was a terrible person

Why would you do this??
This woman isn’t the problem - he is the problem!

You are fighting over someone who has treated you both like shit!
Have some dignity and tell the loser to fuck off and be glad you didn’t waste any more time on him.

He has massive issues, likely stemming from childhood trauma.
He was also taken advantage of from older women more than once.

He can never be the man you want him to be because he is messed up.
It’s not his fault. But you can not ‘save’ him. He will always be loyal to someone who has his child (even if not biological) because hes protective due to his own childhood.

You have to put yourself first.
Never let yourself be someone’s second option.

You will look back on this and think goodness it happened.
Focus on yourself and then find someone who deserves your love.

MushMonster · 08/12/2025 17:32

Nope. That is what he told you. He told you she had thrown him out and abused him.
It looks like they were still very much together. Maybe on a break or fight.
He is the one who lied to you.

Wowcha · 08/12/2025 17:39

Also OP, it’s always a massive red flag when someone bitches about their ex too much.

Yes an ex is an ex for a reason and there will be negative comments but it sounds like he told you too much about her, especially over messages - it’s not like it happened to come up in a conversation.

This would ring alarm bells for me.

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 08/12/2025 17:39

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:24

Shd threw him out and abused him for 3 months then started flirting with my boyfriend and then slept with him the night i told her we had been together. She then boasted online.

I am struggling and not sleeping thats why i came here but i knew id be blamed and told i shouldn't be upset

Edited

Oh love, nobody is blaming you.

This man is seriously bad news. Stay away from him. Stop thinking about him.

PyongyangKipperbang · 08/12/2025 17:42

This guy has car crash written all over him.

She isnt more "worthy" than you, she is probably just a lot more accomodating of him being a completely flaky shit head.

His relationship history alone is enough to trigger the "loser alarm"

Consider this a lucky escape, and get yourself in therapy to find out a) why you gave him the time of day in the first place and b) why you think that this loser is all you are worth. You can do better and you deserve better. He will spend the rest of his life flitting from one woman to the next, always with one eye open for the next one who might be better..... and will die a lonely old man.

Happyjoe · 08/12/2025 17:43

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 16:44

You have got to understand for the fidst couple of months it made absolute sense to not tell her. It was early days. I over time asserted my boundaries and it ruined us. We had really lovely times together but now i know what he is capable of. I wanted some opinions on him and where his brain is at regarding this child and the mum, does he actually love her.

You didn't ruin things, he was already ruined. Hopefully you can see that now.
Please OP, this man isn't ever going to be a source of happy, the opposite in fact. I think you will see that if you walk away and look at it from a new angle. Take care.

Kidsgotothatschool · 08/12/2025 17:45

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 16:53

So him saying she stank and she loved herself and lived like a pig and had nothing going for her living in a council house with 4 kids all with autism and shed get a shag but nothing else,,,. Were the words of a man in love?

No they are the words of a nasty human being who devalued his ex in front of you. And you clearly just allowed it.

Why on earth did this not put you off him?!

YodasHairyButt · 08/12/2025 17:48

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:19

If matters just now because i want to know why she was worthy and i wasnt.

Worthy of what? That piece of shit excuse of a man? Take the rose tinted glasses off.

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:51

Sorry i posted i wish i hadnt

OP posts:
HaveYouFedTheFish · 08/12/2025 17:52

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 16:53

So him saying she stank and she loved herself and lived like a pig and had nothing going for her living in a council house with 4 kids all with autism and shed get a shag but nothing else,,,. Were the words of a man in love?

A man who talks about his ex like this treats every woman like the dirt on his shoe eventually.

It has nothing to do with you being worthy, it's because he isn't worthy of any relationship. With anyone.

I bet he's not in regular, consistent, fatherly contact with his biological children is he? Did he pay properly for the one he fathered at 19? Do at least every other weekend and half the holidays consistently throughout that child's life?

You know he's trash - it's a him problem.

FoxLoxInSox · 08/12/2025 17:53

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:51

Sorry i posted i wish i hadnt

OP. you’re not listening to the advice, input, wisdom and thoughts of those of us who are posting.

So I’m not sure why you did post either tbh.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/12/2025 17:54

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:51

Sorry i posted i wish i hadnt

I'm sorry you're upset.
You can't have been expecting anyone to tell you anything different, based on what you've posted.

fatphalange · 08/12/2025 17:54

You need to build your self esteem up so that you can get to a place where:

you don’t wonder to yourself why someone else was ‘worthier’ than you
you don’t speak about another woman in such uncouth dehumanising terms online
you don’t entertain trash any more
hearing a man badmouth another woman this way is actually an instant red flag and turn-off, not a sign that he is into you and a worthwhile partner. It is not something to bond over and waste hours ‘journaling’ about.

Just work on yourself. Big time. In the most sincere, well-meaning-advice kind of way.

Endofyear · 08/12/2025 17:57

Who knows? Why do you care? He's behaved like an arsehole to you and he was probably shagging her all along! Put him and his relationship with this other woman and his dating history out of your mind and move on with your life - he is not worthy of your time, energy or thoughts. You deserve better than him.

Gardener82 · 08/12/2025 17:57

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 16:44

You have got to understand for the fidst couple of months it made absolute sense to not tell her. It was early days. I over time asserted my boundaries and it ruined us. We had really lovely times together but now i know what he is capable of. I wanted some opinions on him and where his brain is at regarding this child and the mum, does he actually love her.

Looks that way.
But whether he loves her or not he has shown that he doesn’t love you.
Have you heard of the saying.. When people show you who you are, believe them? Or..
If a man is genuinely interested in you, you won’t have all of this doubt.
Just to add, along with the car crash past, a man that slags of his ex girlfriend’s hygiene to you is a massive red flag.

Kidsgotothatschool · 08/12/2025 17:59

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:51

Sorry i posted i wish i hadnt

Why? I suspect it’s because you wanted us to say ‘he doesn’t love her and that he’s only gone back for the child’

But that’s not true is it. His contact with her and subsequent rekindling was clearly because he gets more from it than his relationship with you. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s nasty, and he’s in it for himself but this is what he wants.

You need to wake up and realise he was a walking parade of red flags that you ignored. The way he spoke about his ex should have disgusted you but for some reason you didn’t mind. The way you’ve spoken about her shows that you played into this narrative.

I know this isn’t what you want to hear but you need to move on and fast.

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 08/12/2025 17:59

Picklepicklespickle · 08/12/2025 17:51

Sorry i posted i wish i hadnt

Please don't be sorry OP, you have nothing to be sorry for, we are trying to help you. Flowers

LarrySherbert · 08/12/2025 18:01

I would imagine the "why" is simply because he's a disordered individual who therefore doesn't behave in a rational manner.

ShoveItUpYourArseMargaret · 08/12/2025 18:02

Just get rid of him