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rubberduck68 · 01/12/2025 14:58

Had a date last night and once again, I was talked at. This is common for me. It goes like this: I talk about something, and instead of being curious and asking me a question, or responding to what I’ve said, they tell a long, boring story that vaguely (but hardly at all) has some connection. The stories are always long, and I feel that I could just get up and leave and someone else could sit in my seat and they wouldn’t even notice. I ask them a follow up question, and another long, unconnected story arrives... and so on. Is this why these men are single? Where are all the men who can chat in a reciprocal way? Is it just me?

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rubberduck68 · 05/12/2025 09:59

Shortbread36 · 04/12/2025 22:09

Thank you for this thread. I have spent hundreds of hours being talked “at” by neighbours, colleagues and older relatives (who wonder why they’re lonely). There is no social code for “please stop my ears are bleeding” and many of them would be devastated to know how boring they are. We’ve joked about positive reinforcement: a line of trophies in our kitchen. When visitors ask what they’re for, we can say “anyone who manages to ask a question, listen to the response and ask a follow-up question in a 20-min convo”. That way we’re not pointing the finger . Thoughts?

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This made me laugh: I might take a marble jar with me, pop on in every time they manage to chat like a grown up!

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rubberduck68 · 05/12/2025 10:05

MissingSummertime · 04/12/2025 21:18

That sounds like a really good solution OP, then you can get a good feel for how it is with someone before embarking on a longer date! Would save your ears getting bashed and wasting time.

I don’t suppose you have any advice for me and my dad? You or any of the other posters on here? I love him so much but it is breaking my heart, the talking AT is becoming more forceful over time. It is distressing. He used to ask questions about me or the kids but never does anymore, it is getting worse with age. He has I believe is undiagnosed Bi-polar disorder as has full blown manic episodes (which can be disturbing) followed by periods of very low mood. I’m struggling to cope and haven’t even messaged him since his last (very, very difficult visit) as I have no idea what to say.

Shall I post on the mental health board for advice do you think? Or ask my own GP?

If he used to be able to have a two-way conversation and now struggles it might be dementia of some kind, but I am no expert. A GP would be a good place to start, if you think it might be medical. How is he with other family members and friends?

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rubberduck68 · 05/12/2025 10:07

DancingLions · 05/12/2025 08:44

Most men are like this. I work in an all male team

God yes, you've reminded me of a guy in our team. We're a small team (8 people) and all remote so we have teams meetings. It's got to the point that I just don't say anything any more as he just drones on and on and when someone else tries to speak he literally talks over them. I was getting so annoyed by it that I had to withdraw before I lost my temper and told him to STFU! He thinks he's the expert on everything (he's not!). I know he's married, I just feel sorry for his wife!

At least zoom has a mute button!!

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somethingnewandexciting · 05/12/2025 10:18

rubberduck68 · 05/12/2025 09:59

This made me laugh: I might take a marble jar with me, pop on in every time they manage to chat like a grown up!

I'd love to see this!
"Well done Gary, you asked a question and waited for my answer! You get to pick one of these lovely marbles from this special box to put in the office's very own Marble Jar! Everyone give Gary a round of applause, how clever!"

rubberduck68 · 05/12/2025 10:53

somethingnewandexciting · 05/12/2025 10:18

I'd love to see this!
"Well done Gary, you asked a question and waited for my answer! You get to pick one of these lovely marbles from this special box to put in the office's very own Marble Jar! Everyone give Gary a round of applause, how clever!"

😂

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Needlenardlenoo · 05/12/2025 15:53

Oh dear; I was witness to a first date like this recently. Busy restaurant - pre theatre meal - killing time before my friend got there.

I had to put ear plugs in the bloke was so loud! And he didn't ask her a single question. She seemed quite interesting too.

MorrisZapp · 05/12/2025 15:59

rubberduck68 · 02/12/2025 09:40

It's interesting what you say about the messaging holding up but then the IRL conversation not doing so. I think I'm being chat-fished sometimes: they are using AI to sound articulate and conversationally bright, and then you meet them in person and it's tumbleweed!

My colleague is like this. Smart, funny messages and banal, boring real life conversation.

Shortbread36 · 10/12/2025 20:12

rubberduck68 · 05/12/2025 10:53

😂

Funnily enough the idea came after a man called Gary recently delivered a 30-min monologue.

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