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Partners trip to my dream place, hid key details from me. I feel devastated.

221 replies

Catscoffeeandsleep · 30/10/2025 06:31

Short: My partner went to Rome, the one place I’ve dreamed of visiting, for a jiu-jitsu competition. He hid key details like the hotel and timing, then said “you didn’t ask.” I’m at home juggling everything, feeling heartbroken and increasingly controlled. I can’t tell if this is selfishness or something deeper.

I’m just looking for some advice, and maybe a bit of perspective.

For as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to visit Rome. I mention it regularly. My partner knows this. I’ve spoken about it so many times, the history, the food, the atmosphere. It’s always been my dream destination.

He’s really into jiu-jitsu. He owns a gym and is away competing, teaching or training every evening except Sunday. He also works as an electrician. I’ve recently started working as a painter and decorator, which I love, but I fit it around our 4-year-old daughter’s school hours. I do about 90% of the childcare and everything else at home.

It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots.

He’s been planning for months to compete in the jiu-jitsu Euros in Rome. I said ages ago that he couldn’t possibly go and not take us — I’ve wanted to go my whole life. But as the date got closer, he started changing the story:

“I don’t know how I feel about DD missing Halloween.”
“Are you sure it’s okay for us all to go?”
“It’ll be hassle, it’s a jiu-jitsu thing.”

His mum was supposed to have our dog while he was away — it’s our first time leaving him. She’s quite disorganised, so I asked my partner (around six times) to confirm arrangements with her. He never did, even though he sees her every day. I have generalised anxiety disorder, which he knows about, and I was hoping he’d support me with the practical side of things.

I started to feel like he didn’t actually want us to come. Although he would say he did. When he doesn’t want us somewhere, it’s obvious — he becomes grumpy, miserable, and unpleasant, and past holidays have been ruined that way.

He told me the competition was an hour outside Rome, so I imagined being stuck all day with our daughter in the middle of nowhere, which is what it’s been like before. I told him he should just go and focus on his competition, and we could plan a proper family holiday there later.

Then, just before he left, he said:

“My mate’s on at 5 and wants me to corner him. I’m on early, so I’m going to pretend my phone’s died and go to the city.”

I was really confused. He’d never said he was on early, or that he’d booked a hotel in the city.
It turns out he’s staying in an expensive hotel right in the centre, with a pool, hot tub, spa, kids’ entertainment, and two minutes from all the sights I’ve always talked about seeing a balcony overlooking the city, you can see all the places that I had spoken about. He knew his schedule all week, and never told me.

When I asked why, he said, “You didn’t ask.”
When he competes in London, he always tells me his times because he knows it affects whether we go or not.

He’s already been to Italy once this month. He knows how much I’ve dreamed of Rome. When I got upset, he called me childish, told me to grow up and get over it, and said he “deserves it” because he works two jobs.

I asked him to book flights for me and our daughter to come now that we know those key details — they were around £800 total — and he refused, saying it was too expensive. He’s a high earner with large savings, so that’s not really true.

Meanwhile, I’m at home juggling everything: half-term entertainment, childcare, work, the house, the dog, no breaks, no help. I moved to the middle of nowhere for him, and he’s hardly home. He also tells people I’m unsupportive and paints me as difficult, even though I’ve supported every one of his competitions and constant travel.

I love running — it’s the only thing that’s really mine — but even that has to fit around him. I have no set evening to run, or morning. It feels like he controls everything: when I can work, when I can run, and even whether I’m allowed to take on more jobs.

Now he’s in Rome, staying in a lovely hotel two minutes from all the places I’ve dreamed of seeing, and I’m at home doing everything alone again.

I feel completely heartbroken. I can’t work out if this is selfishness, emotional manipulation, or something more controlling. How can he be in love with me and happily visit the place of my dreams without me knowing how much I do for him and our family. And he said, he deserves it, implying I don’t?

Has anyone been through something similar — where your partner drip-feeds information, dismisses your feelings, and makes you doubt your own reality?
I don’t know how to move forward from this.

OP posts:
crappycrapcrap · 30/10/2025 11:04

If nothing else, he’s really mean.

You don’t sound ready to leave but you could at least start thinking about it as an option, a real, valid possibility, where you could be in charge of your own life and make your own decisions.

Leaveittogod · 30/10/2025 11:07

What a horrible man. Incredibly selfish

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 30/10/2025 11:08

Let this go for now. When it's over and he's home, drop in that you've booked yourself a long weekend ALONE to Rome. Tell him the dates and tell him to diarise them because he will be looking after DD and holding the fort while you are away and he needs to makes sure his diary is clear in order to do that. Give him a fair amount of notice but do not budge on it.

Calliopespa · 30/10/2025 11:09

EdithBond · 30/10/2025 08:09

How you move forward from this is book yourself a trip to Rome.

Do you have a friend who’d be up for going? Save up for it if you have to. Book in plenty of advance and let him know he needs to look after DD. Or take her with you if you prefer. Central hotels in Rome aren’t that pricey compared to other cities, especially if you go in off season, e.g. late Feb. You don’t really need a pool/spa as you’ll be out most of the time.

Buy a guide book (Lonely Planet’s good), so you have something to spur you on and help you work out costs and itinerary even if you can’t go for a year or so.

In the longer-term, now your DD is at school and will get more independent childcare will become easier, especially if they have an after school club. Build up your new profession of painting and decorating and plan a life of your own, where you’re financially independent. You need to be winning your own bread.

If he wanted a child, he should’ve thought and discussed how he’d look after her. Both parents are responsible, as he’ll find out if you were to leave him and ask for 50/50.

He doesn’t love, value or appreciate you. I can understand if he’s competing he may not want the family in tow. But he should have explained and discussed that with you up-front when he knows how much you’d love to go there.

Edited

I agree with the last paragraph here.

I'm not convinced he is having an affair at the hotel or hates the op. I think (not necessarily defending this) as the day got closer he just wanted to go and focus on it without the extra "drain" of op feeling anxious, a young child in tow, the arrangements about the dog etc etc. It's selfish and he handled it dishonestly, but I think it's that simple.

We can also see he is selfish and dishonest in his dealings with his friend.

But I think that's the full size of it: he wanted to put himself first and couldn't be bothered with the family dragging along their issues.

I'm not defending that - he sounds like a twat - but I think it helps to focus on what we can see, not assume or embellish the situation by suggesting he's having an affair etc.

Branleuse · 30/10/2025 11:42

Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight....
I couldnt forgive.
This one is contempt. I wouldnt and couldnt forgive.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 30/10/2025 11:47

Do you have access to family money? Book tickets, take your daughter now to a separate but nice hotel in Rome then divorce him after.

ThisLuckyOpalShaker · 30/10/2025 11:48

He's a dick, i'm so sorry, dont let him manipulate the narrative

PixieandMe · 30/10/2025 11:48

You are incredibly accommodating of his sport but it's time to assert yourself.

Book yourself a short break to Rome. With your child, with a friend or alone. Give him the dates and just go!

I think it would increase your confidence and may be the first step in working out what is best for you in the future.

FlyMeSomewhere · 30/10/2025 11:53

Catscoffeeandsleep · 30/10/2025 06:31

Short: My partner went to Rome, the one place I’ve dreamed of visiting, for a jiu-jitsu competition. He hid key details like the hotel and timing, then said “you didn’t ask.” I’m at home juggling everything, feeling heartbroken and increasingly controlled. I can’t tell if this is selfishness or something deeper.

I’m just looking for some advice, and maybe a bit of perspective.

For as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to visit Rome. I mention it regularly. My partner knows this. I’ve spoken about it so many times, the history, the food, the atmosphere. It’s always been my dream destination.

He’s really into jiu-jitsu. He owns a gym and is away competing, teaching or training every evening except Sunday. He also works as an electrician. I’ve recently started working as a painter and decorator, which I love, but I fit it around our 4-year-old daughter’s school hours. I do about 90% of the childcare and everything else at home.

It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots.

He’s been planning for months to compete in the jiu-jitsu Euros in Rome. I said ages ago that he couldn’t possibly go and not take us — I’ve wanted to go my whole life. But as the date got closer, he started changing the story:

“I don’t know how I feel about DD missing Halloween.”
“Are you sure it’s okay for us all to go?”
“It’ll be hassle, it’s a jiu-jitsu thing.”

His mum was supposed to have our dog while he was away — it’s our first time leaving him. She’s quite disorganised, so I asked my partner (around six times) to confirm arrangements with her. He never did, even though he sees her every day. I have generalised anxiety disorder, which he knows about, and I was hoping he’d support me with the practical side of things.

I started to feel like he didn’t actually want us to come. Although he would say he did. When he doesn’t want us somewhere, it’s obvious — he becomes grumpy, miserable, and unpleasant, and past holidays have been ruined that way.

He told me the competition was an hour outside Rome, so I imagined being stuck all day with our daughter in the middle of nowhere, which is what it’s been like before. I told him he should just go and focus on his competition, and we could plan a proper family holiday there later.

Then, just before he left, he said:

“My mate’s on at 5 and wants me to corner him. I’m on early, so I’m going to pretend my phone’s died and go to the city.”

I was really confused. He’d never said he was on early, or that he’d booked a hotel in the city.
It turns out he’s staying in an expensive hotel right in the centre, with a pool, hot tub, spa, kids’ entertainment, and two minutes from all the sights I’ve always talked about seeing a balcony overlooking the city, you can see all the places that I had spoken about. He knew his schedule all week, and never told me.

When I asked why, he said, “You didn’t ask.”
When he competes in London, he always tells me his times because he knows it affects whether we go or not.

He’s already been to Italy once this month. He knows how much I’ve dreamed of Rome. When I got upset, he called me childish, told me to grow up and get over it, and said he “deserves it” because he works two jobs.

I asked him to book flights for me and our daughter to come now that we know those key details — they were around £800 total — and he refused, saying it was too expensive. He’s a high earner with large savings, so that’s not really true.

Meanwhile, I’m at home juggling everything: half-term entertainment, childcare, work, the house, the dog, no breaks, no help. I moved to the middle of nowhere for him, and he’s hardly home. He also tells people I’m unsupportive and paints me as difficult, even though I’ve supported every one of his competitions and constant travel.

I love running — it’s the only thing that’s really mine — but even that has to fit around him. I have no set evening to run, or morning. It feels like he controls everything: when I can work, when I can run, and even whether I’m allowed to take on more jobs.

Now he’s in Rome, staying in a lovely hotel two minutes from all the places I’ve dreamed of seeing, and I’m at home doing everything alone again.

I feel completely heartbroken. I can’t work out if this is selfishness, emotional manipulation, or something more controlling. How can he be in love with me and happily visit the place of my dreams without me knowing how much I do for him and our family. And he said, he deserves it, implying I don’t?

Has anyone been through something similar — where your partner drip-feeds information, dismisses your feelings, and makes you doubt your own reality?
I don’t know how to move forward from this.

Save up enough for you and your daughter to go for a few days at a later date, you need a good few days there to really experience Rome. Ignore your partner telling you not to work, you are entitled to have your life and independence too.

Bonden · 30/10/2025 11:55

He’s the master, you’re the servant. You only get what he gives you. You’re not an equal. You have to work to his agenda and needs. This is not a relationship of equals.

FlyMeSomewhere · 30/10/2025 12:04

I don't think couples should marry just to take a contract out because it'll be erode a relationship anyway if it's just a marriage for monetary reasons.
My partner and I have been together 22 years, we are joint homeowners, everything is 50 / 50, we never had kids.
The issue is more that it's risky to be a stay at home mum, I've seen plenty of married women on here in disarray because their husband has walked out, they are left with young kids and no income. If you don't pay in, the courts won't let you take much out of the assets.

People need to have conversations before getting pregnant to make sure there's enthusiasm on both sides for a kid and I'd suggest trying to earn a wage as soon as practical so both people have got an income. It's sad really but too often on here it seems like men get bored of domesticity and have easiness of being able to walk away. I guess the OPs partner doesn't like her working in case god forbid he needs to care for his kid and interrupts his life.

sittingonabeach · 30/10/2025 12:05

Do you have access to family money? Could you have just booked it?

Ponderingwindow · 30/10/2025 12:07

You take care of his child and try to work around his schedule. You clearly don’t have access to family money or you could just buy your own plane tickets.

would you want your daughter to put up with that kind of relationship? To be financially isolated?

FlyingUnicornWings · 30/10/2025 12:11

Catscoffeeandsleep · 30/10/2025 06:31

Short: My partner went to Rome, the one place I’ve dreamed of visiting, for a jiu-jitsu competition. He hid key details like the hotel and timing, then said “you didn’t ask.” I’m at home juggling everything, feeling heartbroken and increasingly controlled. I can’t tell if this is selfishness or something deeper.

I’m just looking for some advice, and maybe a bit of perspective.

For as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to visit Rome. I mention it regularly. My partner knows this. I’ve spoken about it so many times, the history, the food, the atmosphere. It’s always been my dream destination.

He’s really into jiu-jitsu. He owns a gym and is away competing, teaching or training every evening except Sunday. He also works as an electrician. I’ve recently started working as a painter and decorator, which I love, but I fit it around our 4-year-old daughter’s school hours. I do about 90% of the childcare and everything else at home.

It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots.

He’s been planning for months to compete in the jiu-jitsu Euros in Rome. I said ages ago that he couldn’t possibly go and not take us — I’ve wanted to go my whole life. But as the date got closer, he started changing the story:

“I don’t know how I feel about DD missing Halloween.”
“Are you sure it’s okay for us all to go?”
“It’ll be hassle, it’s a jiu-jitsu thing.”

His mum was supposed to have our dog while he was away — it’s our first time leaving him. She’s quite disorganised, so I asked my partner (around six times) to confirm arrangements with her. He never did, even though he sees her every day. I have generalised anxiety disorder, which he knows about, and I was hoping he’d support me with the practical side of things.

I started to feel like he didn’t actually want us to come. Although he would say he did. When he doesn’t want us somewhere, it’s obvious — he becomes grumpy, miserable, and unpleasant, and past holidays have been ruined that way.

He told me the competition was an hour outside Rome, so I imagined being stuck all day with our daughter in the middle of nowhere, which is what it’s been like before. I told him he should just go and focus on his competition, and we could plan a proper family holiday there later.

Then, just before he left, he said:

“My mate’s on at 5 and wants me to corner him. I’m on early, so I’m going to pretend my phone’s died and go to the city.”

I was really confused. He’d never said he was on early, or that he’d booked a hotel in the city.
It turns out he’s staying in an expensive hotel right in the centre, with a pool, hot tub, spa, kids’ entertainment, and two minutes from all the sights I’ve always talked about seeing a balcony overlooking the city, you can see all the places that I had spoken about. He knew his schedule all week, and never told me.

When I asked why, he said, “You didn’t ask.”
When he competes in London, he always tells me his times because he knows it affects whether we go or not.

He’s already been to Italy once this month. He knows how much I’ve dreamed of Rome. When I got upset, he called me childish, told me to grow up and get over it, and said he “deserves it” because he works two jobs.

I asked him to book flights for me and our daughter to come now that we know those key details — they were around £800 total — and he refused, saying it was too expensive. He’s a high earner with large savings, so that’s not really true.

Meanwhile, I’m at home juggling everything: half-term entertainment, childcare, work, the house, the dog, no breaks, no help. I moved to the middle of nowhere for him, and he’s hardly home. He also tells people I’m unsupportive and paints me as difficult, even though I’ve supported every one of his competitions and constant travel.

I love running — it’s the only thing that’s really mine — but even that has to fit around him. I have no set evening to run, or morning. It feels like he controls everything: when I can work, when I can run, and even whether I’m allowed to take on more jobs.

Now he’s in Rome, staying in a lovely hotel two minutes from all the places I’ve dreamed of seeing, and I’m at home doing everything alone again.

I feel completely heartbroken. I can’t work out if this is selfishness, emotional manipulation, or something more controlling. How can he be in love with me and happily visit the place of my dreams without me knowing how much I do for him and our family. And he said, he deserves it, implying I don’t?

Has anyone been through something similar — where your partner drip-feeds information, dismisses your feelings, and makes you doubt your own reality?
I don’t know how to move forward from this.

What an arsehole. He didn’t want you and your daughter to go for some reason. I’m sorry, I’d be gutted too.

I hope you and your girl make it to Rome one day soon and have the best time.

Summerhillsquare · 30/10/2025 12:11

Either he's not in love with you, or his idea of love is servitude - you to him. Sorry to be brutal.

You're gonna have to be your own fairy godmother. You WILL go to Rome!

JillyJoy · 30/10/2025 12:13

So sorry for you OP. Not just for the way he treats you but that you had to be told by strangers here.
To him you are his assistant, you look after the house, you sleep with him. You look after your child and the dog.
Because you are the maid he doesn't value you. If you did not have the dog or your child I doubt he would care because he only cares about his life.
His attitude will never change, it is ingrained, it is him.
My plan would be leave him and the dog, You concentrate on building a life for you and your child. (The dog is just another bundle of chores and costs at the moment)

DearyDrearyDear · 30/10/2025 12:25

Oh OP

How hurtful. Are you in a position to leave? You need to read up on the different types of abuse, it's not just physical violence

You do need to make plans to leave, this man doesn't like you at all. What he has done I'd very very cruel. Do you suspect another woman?

MO0N · 30/10/2025 12:28

His martial art is his priority, @Catscoffeeandsleep your function as far as he is concerned it's do everything else so that he can prioritize his martial art, and not have to think about anything else.
I would be making a plan to leave him, but be careful people who are heavily into martial arts can be extremely obsessed and self-absorbed, and he's obviously a fighting sort of person isn't he 😬

Ofstedhelp · 30/10/2025 12:32

Wtaf- why have you allowed yourself to be in this situation for so long? He’s treating you like his maid, and you’re allowing it.

gather evidence of that savings acc, his controlling behaviour and impact on your earnings and divorce that prick.

you deserve SO much more

Calliopespa · 30/10/2025 12:33

Personally I wouldn't be taking any huge or final decisions off this incident op.

First, I'd tell him you understand that he wanted to focus on his hobby while there, and you assume that's why he dodged taking you.

BUT you work hard too and you would now like your own trip with him looking after the dog.

I'd see where that goes.

More broadly, he sounds a bit of a twat, but I think it's a mistake to breathe too much into this one-off. I've had business trips that my dc wanted to tag along on and I said no for similar reasons; it would complicate logistics, even though was technically feasible. But if they told me after how disappointed they were, I would look to address it - and did. It didn't mean I don't love them.

DearyDrearyDear · 30/10/2025 12:46

Calliopespa · 30/10/2025 12:33

Personally I wouldn't be taking any huge or final decisions off this incident op.

First, I'd tell him you understand that he wanted to focus on his hobby while there, and you assume that's why he dodged taking you.

BUT you work hard too and you would now like your own trip with him looking after the dog.

I'd see where that goes.

More broadly, he sounds a bit of a twat, but I think it's a mistake to breathe too much into this one-off. I've had business trips that my dc wanted to tag along on and I said no for similar reasons; it would complicate logistics, even though was technically feasible. But if they told me after how disappointed they were, I would look to address it - and did. It didn't mean I don't love them.

It's not just this incident though? She can't even go for a run unless he says so, she has no access to family funds, doesnt let her work overtime because he wants to be the "breadwinner".... its far and beyond just one in incident she's in an abusive relationship

He doesn't love her. He loves what she can do for him

LilacReader · 30/10/2025 12:47

You do know exactly what you've written and how it reads. Read it back to yourself and imagine this was a friend writing all this down and what you would tell her. So sorry OP, this is not a loving, respectful relationship. 💐

rainbowsparkle28 · 30/10/2025 12:50

Leave. He is a pig. Find someone who treats you well and with respect and love and go on your dream trip to Rome with them.

3luckystars · 30/10/2025 12:56

He is so mean to you.

Maybe he wasn’t always like this, but he is now. I’m sorry. Nobody deserves to be treated like they don’t matter. If he did this to your daughter, you would see the ‘wrongness’ of it.

He is very mean to you.💐

Calliopespa · 30/10/2025 12:56

DearyDrearyDear · 30/10/2025 12:46

It's not just this incident though? She can't even go for a run unless he says so, she has no access to family funds, doesnt let her work overtime because he wants to be the "breadwinner".... its far and beyond just one in incident she's in an abusive relationship

He doesn't love her. He loves what she can do for him

Yes that is true, and it seems to me as well that there is more to consider beyond this incident.

But I'm really just encouraging her to pick each incident apart for what it is, not get caught up in a maelstrom of indignance about him being there for an affair or whatever - because I don't think there is any real evidence of that. It just heightens emotions and has her tilting at windmills.

There is still an issue around the fact that they didn't seem capable of navigating what COULD have been something he might have explained to her openly, and made arrangements for a trip for op a different time. It's clearly not a well-functioning partnership. But that is a different issue from him shagging someone else in a hotel room. It helps to deal with actual, known issues, not issues from people's imaginations running wild.

I explained to my dc why I didn't want them coming that time and we worked something else out. He ought to have done the same.