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Partners trip to my dream place, hid key details from me. I feel devastated.

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Catscoffeeandsleep · 30/10/2025 06:31

Short: My partner went to Rome, the one place I’ve dreamed of visiting, for a jiu-jitsu competition. He hid key details like the hotel and timing, then said “you didn’t ask.” I’m at home juggling everything, feeling heartbroken and increasingly controlled. I can’t tell if this is selfishness or something deeper.

I’m just looking for some advice, and maybe a bit of perspective.

For as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to visit Rome. I mention it regularly. My partner knows this. I’ve spoken about it so many times, the history, the food, the atmosphere. It’s always been my dream destination.

He’s really into jiu-jitsu. He owns a gym and is away competing, teaching or training every evening except Sunday. He also works as an electrician. I’ve recently started working as a painter and decorator, which I love, but I fit it around our 4-year-old daughter’s school hours. I do about 90% of the childcare and everything else at home.

It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots.

He’s been planning for months to compete in the jiu-jitsu Euros in Rome. I said ages ago that he couldn’t possibly go and not take us — I’ve wanted to go my whole life. But as the date got closer, he started changing the story:

“I don’t know how I feel about DD missing Halloween.”
“Are you sure it’s okay for us all to go?”
“It’ll be hassle, it’s a jiu-jitsu thing.”

His mum was supposed to have our dog while he was away — it’s our first time leaving him. She’s quite disorganised, so I asked my partner (around six times) to confirm arrangements with her. He never did, even though he sees her every day. I have generalised anxiety disorder, which he knows about, and I was hoping he’d support me with the practical side of things.

I started to feel like he didn’t actually want us to come. Although he would say he did. When he doesn’t want us somewhere, it’s obvious — he becomes grumpy, miserable, and unpleasant, and past holidays have been ruined that way.

He told me the competition was an hour outside Rome, so I imagined being stuck all day with our daughter in the middle of nowhere, which is what it’s been like before. I told him he should just go and focus on his competition, and we could plan a proper family holiday there later.

Then, just before he left, he said:

“My mate’s on at 5 and wants me to corner him. I’m on early, so I’m going to pretend my phone’s died and go to the city.”

I was really confused. He’d never said he was on early, or that he’d booked a hotel in the city.
It turns out he’s staying in an expensive hotel right in the centre, with a pool, hot tub, spa, kids’ entertainment, and two minutes from all the sights I’ve always talked about seeing a balcony overlooking the city, you can see all the places that I had spoken about. He knew his schedule all week, and never told me.

When I asked why, he said, “You didn’t ask.”
When he competes in London, he always tells me his times because he knows it affects whether we go or not.

He’s already been to Italy once this month. He knows how much I’ve dreamed of Rome. When I got upset, he called me childish, told me to grow up and get over it, and said he “deserves it” because he works two jobs.

I asked him to book flights for me and our daughter to come now that we know those key details — they were around £800 total — and he refused, saying it was too expensive. He’s a high earner with large savings, so that’s not really true.

Meanwhile, I’m at home juggling everything: half-term entertainment, childcare, work, the house, the dog, no breaks, no help. I moved to the middle of nowhere for him, and he’s hardly home. He also tells people I’m unsupportive and paints me as difficult, even though I’ve supported every one of his competitions and constant travel.

I love running — it’s the only thing that’s really mine — but even that has to fit around him. I have no set evening to run, or morning. It feels like he controls everything: when I can work, when I can run, and even whether I’m allowed to take on more jobs.

Now he’s in Rome, staying in a lovely hotel two minutes from all the places I’ve dreamed of seeing, and I’m at home doing everything alone again.

I feel completely heartbroken. I can’t work out if this is selfishness, emotional manipulation, or something more controlling. How can he be in love with me and happily visit the place of my dreams without me knowing how much I do for him and our family. And he said, he deserves it, implying I don’t?

Has anyone been through something similar — where your partner drip-feeds information, dismisses your feelings, and makes you doubt your own reality?
I don’t know how to move forward from this.

OP posts:
RessicaJabbit · 30/10/2025 07:58

I would leave him.

You're desperately unhappy.

MrsPerfect12 · 30/10/2025 08:01

That was so sad to read. This isn’t a loving relationship. He is vile and dismissive of you. You know what to do.

Sneakybat · 30/10/2025 08:01

Like pp have said , it is common for them to do something that you could have been part of if they hadn't hit the details and excluded you. Yes , I have also been through it .
It also isn't any less of a dream if you haven't done it yet .

marigoldsareblooming · 30/10/2025 08:01

Samsung37 · 30/10/2025 07:37

Not really the point though is it? He’s not hidden the trip from her to save her a journey to an awful place (not convinced Rome is awful tbh), he’s hidden it from her as he doesn’t want her there. That’s the point.

True. And you are right maybe I saw the bad side of Rome but it is irrelevant really. If OP wants to go, then go she must.

Aluna · 30/10/2025 08:02

It’s over isn’t it, really.

Quite apart from the naivety of sacrificing your earnings to prioritise his income and savings with no marriage contract.

Aluna · 30/10/2025 08:02

It’s over isn’t it, really.

Quite apart from the naivety of sacrificing your earnings to prioritise his income and savings with no marriage contract.

ParkAndThenRide · 30/10/2025 08:02

I’ve been on MN for at least fifteen years and that’s one of the worst things I’ve ever read on here.

He’s completely disinterested in you as a person and he’s completely disinterested in you and his daughter as a family.

He likes his friends and his hobby and his life away from you.

You would be foolish to stay in this relationship.

SodaPopEarWorm · 30/10/2025 08:03

He cannot love you and treat you this way. You don't crush the dreams of someone you love, especially when the dream is so easy. This isn't like you wanting to go to space, this is Rome.

What do you imagine he will be thinking whilst overlooking the city from that balcony? You are available to go, your DD won't miss school. The deception is off the scale. He chose this hotel, booked it all the while knowing how you felt about Rome.

I think you need legal advice about your housing situation and honestly you cannot stay with someone this cruel. It is so sad to read this. I am not a LTB sort of person but how can you stay when he treats you like this?

Mrsknowitall · 30/10/2025 08:04

I think I’d be inclined to text him and say I’m divorcing you then either block him or completely blank his text and calls. Completely fuck up his holiday. And do just that op divorce him, he don’t care about you to do something like that he’s a selfish controlling prick.

soupyspoon · 30/10/2025 08:04

NerrSnerr · 30/10/2025 07:53

@SparklyCardigan@Motheranddaughter So many reasons why she may not have previously been. Finances (even for a weekend it is still expensive, especially if you’re on a low wage). Maybe her anxiety disorder has prevented her? Maybe life got in the way before she had her child and she didn’t get round to booking. All fine and valid reasons.

My husband is in his 40s and would love to go to Italy but hasn’t got round to it yet, he’ll go in the end but other things have always got in the way.

Exactly this!!

What a thing for posters to berate the OP about. Theres tons of places I still want to visit, guess what, I have limited money, limited annual leave so many of them I havent been to yet. This is a mum of a child, no support around her by the sounds of it, doesnt have a lot of income of her own, busy trying to make her way, managing her MH

She'll get there one day, the focus at the moment is how to safeguard herself from the child's father.

Tangled123 · 30/10/2025 08:04

It really seems like your partner doesn’t like you at all, OP. I would stop waiting around for him to take you to Rome and you should book your own trip if you want it that badly. You are an adult so don’t need permission from him. I understand it can be difficult / scary to leave a relationship but I’d also really think about whether this one is worth it.

EdithBond · 30/10/2025 08:09

How you move forward from this is book yourself a trip to Rome.

Do you have a friend who’d be up for going? Save up for it if you have to. Book in plenty of advance and let him know he needs to look after DD. Or take her with you if you prefer. Central hotels in Rome aren’t that pricey compared to other cities, especially if you go in off season, e.g. late Feb. You don’t really need a pool/spa as you’ll be out most of the time.

Buy a guide book (Lonely Planet’s good), so you have something to spur you on and help you work out costs and itinerary even if you can’t go for a year or so.

In the longer-term, now your DD is at school and will get more independent childcare will become easier, especially if they have an after school club. Build up your new profession of painting and decorating and plan a life of your own, where you’re financially independent. You need to be winning your own bread.

If he wanted a child, he should’ve thought and discussed how he’d look after her. Both parents are responsible, as he’ll find out if you were to leave him and ask for 50/50.

He doesn’t love, value or appreciate you. I can understand if he’s competing he may not want the family in tow. But he should have explained and discussed that with you up-front when he knows how much you’d love to go there.

someepeoplearenice · 30/10/2025 08:11

He hates you. He enjoys having power over you. He enjoys knowing you will be devastated that he is holidaying in your dream destination. He enjoys knowing you will be doing all the half term drudge work whilst he is away. He enjoys being able to control what you do and how much you do.

What makes men abusive is that they control their partner. You are controlled by him. He is abusive.

flippertygibbet4 · 30/10/2025 08:12

endofagain · 30/10/2025 06:47

You need legal and financial advice. If you are not married you have very few rights unless you are on the deeds of the property/ are named on the mortgage / have proof of financial contribution.
Don't let this go on any longer.

This.

He is not behaving like someone who loves you and your daughter. Would you behave like this? No. I really think you need to get some proper advice and think long and hard about the reality of your marriage. The signs are all there. Good luck xx

Teathecolourofcreosote · 30/10/2025 08:13

I don't think he's behaved well here and I can appreciate why you are hurt.

But how much would your anxiety affect a trip like this?

If it's well managed and you'd be fine going about with your daughter and doing your own thing then he's a prick.

If you need him to do sightseeing etc and would be waiting for him to return then I can understand his perspective a little. This is a trip about his sport and if you go with him he'd feel the need to do his competition and rush back. But he probably wants to watch the rest of the competition, hang around with the others etc.

Either way, you both need to be able to talk about this and communicate better.

DriveMeCrazy1974 · 30/10/2025 08:16

Somebody who loves you, and knows this is somewhere you've always wanted to go, knows that he can afford for you to go, and still doesn't make sure that you're there with him, is not acting in the way a loving partner should.
Has he got any good points, because, from this one action, he sounds like a complete and utter twat?!
You and your daughter deserve so much better than this. Heck, even being on your own would be better than being under the thumb of this man who thinks he can control you in such a way.
Ask yourself what you'd say to a friend if they were going through the same scenario. I think you'd probably say it wasn't good enough and it's not!
Please, think seriously as to whether you think he is a good role model for your daughter. Also, whether you're being a good role model for your daughter in letting her see her father get away with treating you like this.
I'll say it again - YOU DESERVE BETTER.

MojoMoon · 30/10/2025 08:17

The Rome thing is just the cherry on the cake.

You aren't married. This isn't important morally but it is important legally and financially.
It sounds like you had a period not working. And now you work part time?
You presumably have made little to no pension contributions in the last few years

In the mean time, you facilitate him working where he earns a decent amount, can save money and have enough to take European trips and pursue his hobbies.

Ignore Rome. What's your plan for life? Do you really think this man is going to stick around forever and ensure you aren't penniless in old age? You aren't married so you have no claim on much beyond child support which will not be huge. Plus if he a self employed electrician, he can easily hide his income from the CSA.

You are in a hugely vulnerable financial position, reliant on a man who clearly doesn't like or respect you much.

You will need to take control of your life. What do you earn? What would a small flat cost to rent?

GRCP · 30/10/2025 08:18

Enjoy your holiday to Rome once you’ve left him and got a job of your own!

someepeoplearenice · 30/10/2025 08:19

The good news is you have started your own work as a painter and decorator. From people I know, the benefits system does reward people who work - I would go to someone like the citizen's advice bureau and find out what you could get on benefits. Also get yourself on a register for social housing ( council/and or housing association).

He is using you as free domestic and child labour, at the expense of your own earnings and future financial security, to build his own wealth.

You'd be better off in the long run leaving him and building your own financial future, even though that will be hard.

Are you on meds for anxiety? I had a friend who refused to take medication for her generalised anxiety until she was in her 40s. But once she did they really transformed her ability to cope.

findingmypeace · 30/10/2025 08:20

Op you are being used to facilitate his lifestyle sadly. If you are feeling trapped please bear in mind that if you separate he will need to pay CMS ( careful if he is self employed as there are loopholes, but if employed on a high income it’s much harder to dodge - check CMS calculator for amounts), and/ or he will need to pick up some childcare. If you have a claim on the house definitely pursue that but otherwise, if you are a low earner you might qualify for UC and help with housing as well as single person council tax rate and child benefit. The point is you would regain some control back over your life and you have options! You might even feel better off away from him as it’s great you have a trade to fall back on and source of income. You can save up and enjoy that Rome break on your own terms without the moody extra baggage.

Thundertoast · 30/10/2025 08:25

'He owns a gym and is away competing, teaching or training every evening except Sunday. I’ve recently started working as a painter and decorator, which I love, but I fit it around our 4-year-old daughter’s school hours. I do about 90% of the childcare and everything else at home.'

You are devastated because:
A. Its understandable, what a shit.
B. Its your brain finally giving you the WAKE UP call you need - why would you want a man around who has no interest in being part of your life or your daughters life? He might say he loves you both, but if he did he would be there. That's it. There's no other way round that. Take this as your nudge to leave him. How dare he just fuck off and miss his daughters life over a hobby.

Periperi2025 · 30/10/2025 08:26

Nicefreshbedding · 30/10/2025 06:38

Pack up and leave while he's away. As you call him your partner I'm guessing you're not married - why, why, WHY do women give up everything for men without a contract (marriage)?

You will probably not be entitled to anything financially but you will be in control of what you do, instead of him controlling you.

What's the betting he's a self employed electrician.
She won't get any child maintenance off him, and he'll still control her working hours/ income through only have the kids when or suits him.

someepeoplearenice · 30/10/2025 08:26

Teathecolourofcreosote · 30/10/2025 08:13

I don't think he's behaved well here and I can appreciate why you are hurt.

But how much would your anxiety affect a trip like this?

If it's well managed and you'd be fine going about with your daughter and doing your own thing then he's a prick.

If you need him to do sightseeing etc and would be waiting for him to return then I can understand his perspective a little. This is a trip about his sport and if you go with him he'd feel the need to do his competition and rush back. But he probably wants to watch the rest of the competition, hang around with the others etc.

Either way, you both need to be able to talk about this and communicate better.

I find the naivety of posters like this hard to understand.

This is a man who has clearly orchestrated their whole lives to ensure his material and financial security at the expense of OPs. Who clearly uses her for free domestic and child labour to enable him to build wealth. Who only allows her to work whilst their child is at school so that she can facilitate him being out doing whatever he likes, whenever he likes. Who has moved her somewhere where she is isolated. Then lies to her about his trip to Rome, but telling her at the 11th hour that he is staying in a luxury dream location for her but refuses to allow her to come.

But yeah, I'm sure if OP just 'communicates' with him he will see the error of his ways, be filled with remorse, and become a good partner thereoin. He'll probably marry her within a week to protect her financially. 🙄

Arrrrrrragghhh · 30/10/2025 08:27

I can’t work out if this is selfishness, emotional manipulation, or something more controlling.

You have written in great detail both the big and small ways in which he spoils life, both for you and your daughter. Don’t over analyse. He clearly doesn’t love or treat you well.
You need to leave. For the sake of your daughter. New year, new you. Be careful- alpha males 🙄don’t like others making decisions.

There aren’t many buildings in the centre that have pools and spas. The buildings are all 2000 years old and have strict building regulations. Don’t feel you are missing out on a good hotel.

Good luck.

LetGoLetThem1234 · 30/10/2025 08:29

You are not in a healthy relationship. You are his lifestyle facilitator. Being with you means he has the kudos of being in a relationship with a child, all home comforts without having to be responsible.

He loves how easy you make his life. He doesn't love you. Look not at his words: look at his actions. A person who loves, would not do this. They just wouldn't.

If you accept this behaviour, they will be more of the same to come.