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Partners trip to my dream place, hid key details from me. I feel devastated.

221 replies

Catscoffeeandsleep · 30/10/2025 06:31

Short: My partner went to Rome, the one place I’ve dreamed of visiting, for a jiu-jitsu competition. He hid key details like the hotel and timing, then said “you didn’t ask.” I’m at home juggling everything, feeling heartbroken and increasingly controlled. I can’t tell if this is selfishness or something deeper.

I’m just looking for some advice, and maybe a bit of perspective.

For as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to visit Rome. I mention it regularly. My partner knows this. I’ve spoken about it so many times, the history, the food, the atmosphere. It’s always been my dream destination.

He’s really into jiu-jitsu. He owns a gym and is away competing, teaching or training every evening except Sunday. He also works as an electrician. I’ve recently started working as a painter and decorator, which I love, but I fit it around our 4-year-old daughter’s school hours. I do about 90% of the childcare and everything else at home.

It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots.

He’s been planning for months to compete in the jiu-jitsu Euros in Rome. I said ages ago that he couldn’t possibly go and not take us — I’ve wanted to go my whole life. But as the date got closer, he started changing the story:

“I don’t know how I feel about DD missing Halloween.”
“Are you sure it’s okay for us all to go?”
“It’ll be hassle, it’s a jiu-jitsu thing.”

His mum was supposed to have our dog while he was away — it’s our first time leaving him. She’s quite disorganised, so I asked my partner (around six times) to confirm arrangements with her. He never did, even though he sees her every day. I have generalised anxiety disorder, which he knows about, and I was hoping he’d support me with the practical side of things.

I started to feel like he didn’t actually want us to come. Although he would say he did. When he doesn’t want us somewhere, it’s obvious — he becomes grumpy, miserable, and unpleasant, and past holidays have been ruined that way.

He told me the competition was an hour outside Rome, so I imagined being stuck all day with our daughter in the middle of nowhere, which is what it’s been like before. I told him he should just go and focus on his competition, and we could plan a proper family holiday there later.

Then, just before he left, he said:

“My mate’s on at 5 and wants me to corner him. I’m on early, so I’m going to pretend my phone’s died and go to the city.”

I was really confused. He’d never said he was on early, or that he’d booked a hotel in the city.
It turns out he’s staying in an expensive hotel right in the centre, with a pool, hot tub, spa, kids’ entertainment, and two minutes from all the sights I’ve always talked about seeing a balcony overlooking the city, you can see all the places that I had spoken about. He knew his schedule all week, and never told me.

When I asked why, he said, “You didn’t ask.”
When he competes in London, he always tells me his times because he knows it affects whether we go or not.

He’s already been to Italy once this month. He knows how much I’ve dreamed of Rome. When I got upset, he called me childish, told me to grow up and get over it, and said he “deserves it” because he works two jobs.

I asked him to book flights for me and our daughter to come now that we know those key details — they were around £800 total — and he refused, saying it was too expensive. He’s a high earner with large savings, so that’s not really true.

Meanwhile, I’m at home juggling everything: half-term entertainment, childcare, work, the house, the dog, no breaks, no help. I moved to the middle of nowhere for him, and he’s hardly home. He also tells people I’m unsupportive and paints me as difficult, even though I’ve supported every one of his competitions and constant travel.

I love running — it’s the only thing that’s really mine — but even that has to fit around him. I have no set evening to run, or morning. It feels like he controls everything: when I can work, when I can run, and even whether I’m allowed to take on more jobs.

Now he’s in Rome, staying in a lovely hotel two minutes from all the places I’ve dreamed of seeing, and I’m at home doing everything alone again.

I feel completely heartbroken. I can’t work out if this is selfishness, emotional manipulation, or something more controlling. How can he be in love with me and happily visit the place of my dreams without me knowing how much I do for him and our family. And he said, he deserves it, implying I don’t?

Has anyone been through something similar — where your partner drip-feeds information, dismisses your feelings, and makes you doubt your own reality?
I don’t know how to move forward from this.

OP posts:
Kerrylass · 30/10/2025 09:09

OP, use the time his away to get your ducks in a row.

This is financial and emotional abuse and a better life for you and your DC is around the corner.

You will see Rome very soon and when you do it will be on your terms X

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/10/2025 09:12

He never wanted their child or the OP to go to Rome in the first place and I sincerely hope OP does leave her abuser. It will also do her child no favours at all to see her mother being treated like this.

This relationship will never become more equal because he has the majority of the power and control within it. Why would he give any of this over to the OP who he merely regards as his support human/maid/housekeeper?.

ThatsCute · 30/10/2025 09:14

Was he this big of an asshat before you decided to have a child with him?

StampOnTheGround · 30/10/2025 09:14

I would be hurt, but putting another spin on it, he obviously didn’t want you to come, he wanted to do his jiu-jitsu and not turn it into a family holiday.

There are red flags and controlling behaviour from him thought and it’s horrible - please consider leaving him!

thestudio · 30/10/2025 09:15

This man is a(nother) selfish controlling prick.

Why do you do all the shitwork and childcare if you are also working?

Why does he get to take your family time and money and spend it on himself, travelling and competing?

How come your money is family money but his is his own to spend on that?

And why the FUCK does he think he can tell you not to work? Or not to do anything for that matter.

What a piece of shit. I can literally see him in my minds eye, wide little man with beady eyes and a Napoleon complex.

BananaPeels · 30/10/2025 09:20

That’s super sad honestly.

if your situation would have been mine, my mum would have had our child at home and we would have taken the opportunity for a romantic evening in Rome.

you deserve so much better!

tripleginandtonic · 30/10/2025 09:22

You need to take some responsibility for your own life here. Go to Rome and split up with your "partner". What he and you want from the relationship are very different.

Redwinedaze · 30/10/2025 09:24

Are you sure he is on his own? Regardless you need to get out before he draws you any lower, fight back for you.

TalulahJP · 30/10/2025 09:25

I believe the phrase that people describe the woman in such circumstances is a “nanny with a fanny”. ie he wants you to look after him and his needs including his offspring meanwhile he has a lovely life doing exactly what he wants.

Unless he has got some kind of surprise for you up his sleeve, ie here are the family tickets pack your case, I’d be of the opinion he doesn’t love you and doesn’t respect you. Hes just using you to keep house for him and service his sexual needs. For free. Presumably you're not married so he can protect his assets from you. Selfish prick.

Id get my ducks in a row FIRST and only after that would I leave. Soon. Hes not the one. Hes too thoughtless, selfish and controlling. Sorry OP.

mumzof4x · 30/10/2025 09:27

Sorry but his need to hide this suggests something more. I’d be inclined to rock up at the hotel anyway and see for myself. Suprise him !

CarrierbagsAndPJs · 30/10/2025 09:31

You are his staff and not even his wife. Wtf are you doing?

femfemlicious · 30/10/2025 09:32

He has got you in a very tight spot. You ate not married so entitled to nothing but child support. Thankfully you have only 1 child. Time to take control of your life. Sit down and figure how you would like things to be then sit down and find a compromise with him. If you can't find q compromise, you will leave.

someepeoplearenice · 30/10/2025 09:38

Cucy · 30/10/2025 09:07

I told him he should just go and focus on his competition, and we could plan a proper family holiday there later.

You were meant to be going as a family but YOU decided not to go and told him to go without you and now you’re upset that he’s gone.

You literally told him to go and you’d plan another holiday there at a different date.
And so I’m unsure why you are now upset over it.

You know the trip would have revolves around his hobby.
So either you and DD could have gone and done your own thing - not sure why this wasn’t an option.
Or as you chose, you all just go as a family.

How long have you been together?
I’m confused as to why if this is your dream place why you and he didn’t go for a weekend away before you got pregnant.
For 2 working adults, Rome is very affordable.

This relationship is so unhealthy and unfortunately it is proof of why I would never be a SAHP because SOME men treat their partners like live in maids. But at the same time their job does take priority as they’re the ones keeping the roof over your heads.

Forget about the holiday.
Focus on the relationship.

I cannot see you leaving and so you need to make it more equal.
You are a SAHP between the hours of X-Y, the same hours as he works.
Within those hours most of the cooking and cleaning would be done.
But evenings and weekends are 50/50 and (assuming your child is not at nursery), then everything including parenting, cooking, free time for hobbies, lie ins etc should be 50/50.

Why do you take the time to write such a long post when you haven't bothered to read the OP? Read the OP and your questions are answered.

And this man has deliberately organised his life like this. It suits him very well to have OP where she is, doing all the drudge work. He is not going to give this up because he ' should' do 50/50 at weekends. Why would he? The status quo suits him very well and he clearly doesn't give one crap about OP or spending time with his daughter. It doesn't even look like they are married and it looks likely he is self-employed which means he doesn't even need to worry too much about the financial cost to him if she leaves him. OP has precisely zero bargaining power here.

millymollymoomoo · 30/10/2025 09:39

why can’t you book to go to Rome yourself ? You don’t need his permission,

but you should seriously look at your relationship as it doesn’t sound great

BuckChuckets · 30/10/2025 09:40

This is horrible, HE is horrible. Sorry OP, you must be devastated.

pusspuss9 · 30/10/2025 09:41

beAsensible1 · 30/10/2025 07:09

This is not someone who values his or respects you. Would you put up with this from someone who is not a high earner?

he treats you like rubbish, limited your earning potential and lies. Do you think this will get better ?

he is using you as an in house skivvy

he is using you as an in house skivvy

NO, she is allowing herself to be used a a house skivvy. She needs to stop relying on somebody else, get a job (which she has now just done), sort out child care with both parents paying, and start living free and independently . There should be no problem in a booking a trip to Rome for herself and her daughter, booking somewhere to stay, seeing all the sights that she wants to. Of course she may need to save up for it but she will be able to do it. Wherever you go in Europe, many many people speak english and are very helpful.

Merryoldgoat · 30/10/2025 09:43

He doesn’t like you even a little bit.

The number of threads like this lately - it’s really upsetting.

MethusalahsMum · 30/10/2025 09:49

Hi @Catscoffeeandsleep it's just over three hours since you posted so I assume that you'll be back to catch up soon.

You need a plan that starts now.

As soon as you know he's in Rome - & cannot pop back home - start copying every bit of financial & business documentation you can find. Take photos of everything & email them to a brand new email address.

That means all bank & mortgage statements, deeds, insurances, building society, investments, mobile phones, anything HMRC, anything from account/lawyers & probably other stuff - the whole A4 page both sides. This is your duplicate set for any further financial negotiations.

Do this slow grind detail work now when he's far away. As you progress you may realise that some aspects of his life are unknown to you & possibly that stuff that should be there isn't suggesting that he's either careless or has a document stash elsewhere.

This is your documentation baseline. Anything from now on, he may be more careful or wary.

Be prepared.

Purplecatshopaholic · 30/10/2025 09:50

He’s a lying rat who didn’t want you there. Seriously op, you need to reevaluate this relationship right now, it’s not going to get better. He doesn’t want you to work more, because he doesn’t want you to have any money - it’s a control thing. Unfortunately you have a child with a dickhead, but contact CSA (or whatever it’s called now) re maintenance, and seek legal advice too. What is the housing situation? I hope it’s a jointly owned property? Don’t put up with his shit op, you and your child are surely worth more.
Edit: great advice above from Methuselah, get organised. You don’t need to act right away if it’s too big of a leap right now, but start planning.

Cardinalita90 · 30/10/2025 09:51

He's done this to spite you. He has no respect for you. Use this hurt as a catalyst for changing your life.

snowmichael · 30/10/2025 09:51

> It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots.

This is far more worrying than the lies about what he's up to in Rome, or that he wouldn't take you

This is coercive control and is a sign of an abusive partner

Run now. Run fast. Run far.

NerrSnerr · 30/10/2025 09:54

pusspuss9 · 30/10/2025 09:41

he is using you as an in house skivvy

NO, she is allowing herself to be used a a house skivvy. She needs to stop relying on somebody else, get a job (which she has now just done), sort out child care with both parents paying, and start living free and independently . There should be no problem in a booking a trip to Rome for herself and her daughter, booking somewhere to stay, seeing all the sights that she wants to. Of course she may need to save up for it but she will be able to do it. Wherever you go in Europe, many many people speak english and are very helpful.

And her partner who is clearly controlling is just going to say ‘ok love, I’ll happily pay for 50% of the childcare while you go to work’.

Do you genuinely think it’s as simple as that?

OfficerChurlish · 30/10/2025 09:54

It feels like he controls everything: when I can work, when I can run, and even whether I’m allowed to take on more jobs. Based on what you've written, please read about coercive control and see if any of it rings true for your situation.

https://womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/coercive-control

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/domestic-abuse-how-to-get-help

Wearycat posted the link for www.rightsofwomen.org.uk above; they and/or Women's Aid can help if you want to understand your options/make plans to leave but can't afford to seek legal advice on your own. Above all, realise that your concerns are NOT trivial at all - your needs and desires and well being matter, not just your partner's!!

For the moment: don't worry about Rome! The city's not going anywhere; you'll get there. If you were to go now, you'd probably have a miserable time; as you said: When he doesn’t want us somewhere, it’s obvious — he becomes grumpy, miserable, and unpleasant, and past holidays have been ruined that way. Tell him you've realised it's too late for you to join him and the two of you can talk about a family trip one he's home - and then use the time while he's away to figure out your next steps.

It’s half term, and I said I wanted to work a few days to earn some of my own money. He said no, he’s the “breadwinner” and so basically he believes he calls the shots. It sounds like the two of you at some point agreed that he would be the "breadwinner" and that you would essentially be a SAHP - as you said: at home juggling everything (else): half-term entertainment, childcare, work, the house, the dog, no breaks, no help? In this kind of arrangement, he can't reasonably consider the money he earns "his" because without YOUR contribution, he would not have been able to earn it.

What would it have cost him in terms of time, money, and lost professional opportunities if he had had to do all of the childcare, parenting, and household responsibilities on his own all of these years? Or even half of it, while you were also working full time and you both treated your job and career as seriously as his? He called me childish, told me to grow up and get over it, and said he “deserves it” because he works two jobs. He's either completely delusional, or he's messing you about. He’s a high earner with large savings. Yes - at your expense. And if the two of you aren't married, he may well get away with it - but you can at least try to make sure he pays his share for your daughter going forward.

mindutopia · 30/10/2025 09:54

If I was going away to compete in an important sporting event, I would NOT want to take Dh and dc with me. It’s a completely different experience and not a good one. Similarly, I’ve never told Dh what hotel I’m staying in when I’m away (I can’t think why I would?). In a healthy relationship, these are normal things not used to control and manipulate you. He should be able to actually say that to you and be honest, but it sounds like he’s a controlling twat who thinks he’s Mr Big Balls because of his gym and his wife at home.

You need to have your own hobbies and interests and you need to work. You need to have your own life. Then YOU can book your own flights and go off on adventures and see places you’ve always wanted to see. Dh has never book me flights to go places. I book them myself because I work and have money and freedom and I plop the kids with him and go off and do what I want. It’s time to make you and your daughter your priority.

JustReacher · 30/10/2025 09:56

I've only read your OP but he's a controlling piece of shit. Leave him. And go to Rome as soon as you can, with your daughter.