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I'm a bit stuck now with some bad news...

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JustaGirlTrying · 17/09/2025 17:41

Hi all.

Maybes a bit of a long post, so I do apologise.

I have just been given bad news by my ex boyfriend that he has cancer. He's only late 40s and we spent over a decade together and we're friends first. It was a bit of a turbulent relationship at times, but we had some good times, made memories and just couldn't deal with the world well, but we don't hold that against each other.

We properly spilt a few years ago, but remained friends and he helped me out a lot when I hurt my back and the most supportive person when my grandad died.

I am now in a new relationship, but it's a relationship I wish I had never gotten into and it's seems very hard to get out of. Hes a much older man, controlling, condescending and just basically won't get out of my life and I've asked him many times to. We do have nice days, but he is very teenage like, very argumentative and always has to be right. Sexually coercive and just a bit of a head do. I don't want to get the police involved and my parents are very close to removing him from house..... Anyways..... That will all be sorted out soon...

My ex and I are amicable, I do care for him and he's a nice lad, helps anyone with anything type of person. Now that I have been told this cancer news I am immediately wanting to help him. I see him for the first time in 9 months tomorrow at the hospital. He is going for chemo and whatever the hospital say, which is his choice.

He knows I am more holistic and says he will accept natural help after the chemo. He has a loving mother, he has a daughter I don't know of they are estranged still, and he has a sister he half gets on with. He's well known as a good lad around the area and has nice mates.

In my mind, (maybes it's panic), but I am thinking of asking him when he gets better from chemo if he wants to come and stay with me for a bit (nothing sexual) as I have moved out into the countryside. In my mind I am hoping to help him get his immune system back naturally and show him that it's ok to take time out to heal. He's a massive stickler for working and is constantly employed working hard. I live alone (technically) with our cat we got together 11 years ago.

He never looked after his health and I just feel he deserves a second chance hopefully in life to redeem himself and see a new outlook on life and cherish it. I am no way looking to have a couple relationship with him again, but he is a great friend.

When I found out this morning, I told my current partner (1 year) and he started trying to lecture me about cancer as he thinks I'm thick, and were both holistic so I dont know what he was trying to tell me. I told him I wasn't interested in what he had to say as I know what he was pushing and I shouted at him and he got pissy at me and we haven't spoken since. He's left to take his dog out, not even texted me to see if I'm ok. No emotional support at all.

I'm in bad health myself with my bad back and been in bed depressed all day in tears, having to contact old mutual friends and stuff. I've been helping out with trying to get my ex with pip and stuff like that, get the ball rolling until I see him face to face.

I'm literally sick of my current fella draining me like he does and he has his own place but chooses to live here with all his stuff clogging my house up just being lazy and making excuses.

I feel like my ex deserves my help so much more than this narcissist and maybe he will just leave anyways when he's not getting the attention.

I don't know what I'm writing here, I'm just getting stuff out, but do you think it's unreasonable or weird to ask my ex if he wants to stay on a bed downstairs to try and heal? He's been living with his mam for a year or so and she's getting on mid 70s now and wasn't well herself last year.

Obvs I will wait until I get this current one out of my house first!

Thanks for reading if you did, please go easy on me, I'm not after any negativity.

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/09/2025 21:54

Your intentions are kind, but your plan is a very poor one.

Staying with someone in (or at best only just out of and quite possibly still being hassled by) an abusive relationship.will not be 'rest and recuperation'. It will be high stress, with a possibility of your friend being on the receiving end of violence.

Shifting yoir focus to looking after another man is not an effective way to make your current 'parner' leave. Indeed if he's controlling it may make him dig his heels in even more.

After chemo, your friend is likely to have a severely weakened immune system and may need a neutropenic diet (which means no raw fruit or veg, among other things) so lots of fresh healthy juices could actually do serious harm.

Sort.your own situation first.

When, and only when, that is completely resolved, ask your friend what help he wants - not what you think he ought to have.

JustaGirlTrying · 17/09/2025 21:58

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/09/2025 21:54

Your intentions are kind, but your plan is a very poor one.

Staying with someone in (or at best only just out of and quite possibly still being hassled by) an abusive relationship.will not be 'rest and recuperation'. It will be high stress, with a possibility of your friend being on the receiving end of violence.

Shifting yoir focus to looking after another man is not an effective way to make your current 'parner' leave. Indeed if he's controlling it may make him dig his heels in even more.

After chemo, your friend is likely to have a severely weakened immune system and may need a neutropenic diet (which means no raw fruit or veg, among other things) so lots of fresh healthy juices could actually do serious harm.

Sort.your own situation first.

When, and only when, that is completely resolved, ask your friend what help he wants - not what you think he ought to have.

Ok thank you, I have never heard of that diet.

That is useful information for me to look into and just good to research in general.

Thank you.

OP posts:
PlaceIntheClouds · 17/09/2025 22:01

Didimum · 17/09/2025 17:46

He is going for chemo and whatever the hospital say, which is his choice.
He knows I am more holistic and says he will accept natural help after the chemo.

I don’t have any advice as to your question, but please ensure you do not attempt to persuade this man towards fake treatment. It’s so irresponsible and dangerous. I’m not sure why that even forms part of your post.

100% this!

WiddlinDiddlin · 17/09/2025 22:03

You have good intentions, but you're currently in no position to help anyone!

Help yourself first - get the arsehole out and gone, deal with that. Make sure you're not simply focused on this to escape from the current live in twat situation!

Then if you still want to offer a nice place to stay and someone else doing the cooking... do that, that can be very restful (depending on the host and the guest in question)...

Do not insist on healthy this and holistic that, though. As much as it may well be healthier, stress has a huge impact on our bodies and being nagged, bullied, pressured etc (however well meaning!) just adds stress!

JustaGirlTrying · 17/09/2025 22:08

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WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 17/09/2025 22:10

JustaGirlTrying · 17/09/2025 21:51

I've tried. He won't go. I am scared his past behaviour might impact my life, families life. He has his own place, I am waiting for him to leave without any antagonisation from the police. That sends some people wild.

darling, he's not going to go voluntarily. that's not the narcissist way.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/09/2025 22:13

JustaGirlTrying · 17/09/2025 21:58

Ok thank you, I have never heard of that diet.

That is useful information for me to look into and just good to research in general.

Thank you.

If it's bowel cancer there may also be quite strict requirements on things like amounts of fibre etc, so I wouldn't go down too many specific research rabbit holes at this stage. It also quite likely he'll experience some lost of or change in sense of taste and smell.

If you're a chef, then once he does have a detailed diet plan from his clinical team he may well appreciate ideas about how to make meals interesting within those parameters (and someone to make a few meals could well also be welcome).

Shinysunday · 17/09/2025 22:13

I hope your ex comes to stay with you OP, and finds some healing.
Your current bloke is a completely separate issue. He sounds horrible and needs to go whether or not your ex comes to stay. Please get whatever support you need to get rid of him.

Sooose · 17/09/2025 22:15

There are two separate issues here:

  1. get rid of the loser who is doing you no good at all - it seems everyone agrees with that!
  2. if your instinct says you want to show your ex some care and kindness and he likes the idea then sure - I don't see a problem with this. I hear you that you won't influence him to reject the conventional treatment. You just want to help him with R&R and help him to eat more healthily than he would otherwise. But keep the arrangement loose so that if living at close quarters is too much, then you can cut it short and support from a distance.
ormiwtbte · 17/09/2025 22:20

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You can call people on here cunts and tell them to get to fuck but you've still got that piece of shit living in your house.
You are in no position to help your ex and give him space to recuperate while that knob is still in your house. He needs to go and he should be removed by the police. He won't be going voluntarily.

Once he has gone then you can think about helping your friend.
And not with any holistic bullshit, only by preparing foods that are recommended by his medical team.

Cattenberg · 17/09/2025 22:21

I think you've had some rather harsh and presumptive responses here. I think you're kind to want to help your ex and I certainly don't think it's OTT to be crying in bed after such bad news.

All the same, I agree with others that you need to help yourself first. I'm sorry that you're in a controlling relationship with a man who won't leave. Have you tried contacting Women's Aid for advice? They are all too familiar with this scenario.

I know you've had enough of explaining your holistic approach to healthcare, so sorry for bringing it up again. I'm all for complimentary therapies if they genuinely compliment the medical treatment and improve physical or mental wellbeing. But my DM's experience as a cancer patient taught me to always check your ideas with your specialist doctor first. My DM wanted to take certain vitamin supplements and her oncologist thought that on balance, it was best not to, as there was some evidence that the supplements could make her chemotherapy less effective. I believe it had something to do with the vitamins potentially helping the cancer cells to evade the chemotherapy. This is not something that would ever have occurred to me at the time.

newyearsresolurion · 17/09/2025 22:22

Your ex is in good hands living with his parents who are looking after him. Like PPs have suggested you sort your relationship and life out

babyproblems · 17/09/2025 22:26

Agree don’t interfere with his treatment. At all.

Id hold your horses and just stay in touch. Take day by day.

Falseknock · 17/09/2025 22:30

ormiwtbte · 17/09/2025 22:20

You can call people on here cunts and tell them to get to fuck but you've still got that piece of shit living in your house.
You are in no position to help your ex and give him space to recuperate while that knob is still in your house. He needs to go and he should be removed by the police. He won't be going voluntarily.

Once he has gone then you can think about helping your friend.
And not with any holistic bullshit, only by preparing foods that are recommended by his medical team.

A medical professional would not recommend eating McDonald's. My mum died a couple of years ago she had cancer and her consultant or medical team never recommended anything apart from healthy foods. My aunt even bought her a slow cooker to help with cooking healthy meals.

OhMyGiddyAnt · 17/09/2025 22:33

@JustaGirlTrying

That was a great parting post. 😁 Good luck with everything. I hope you manage to get rid of your current ‘partner’ very soon. I hope you have people (non cunts!) in real life that you can talk to. If not maybe you could try one of the charities that deals with domestic abuse.

ormiwtbte · 17/09/2025 22:41

Falseknock · 17/09/2025 22:30

A medical professional would not recommend eating McDonald's. My mum died a couple of years ago she had cancer and her consultant or medical team never recommended anything apart from healthy foods. My aunt even bought her a slow cooker to help with cooking healthy meals.

I have never mentioned McDonald's so I have no idea why you have quoted me and then said a medical professional would not recommend eating McDonald's.

PrivateMusic · 17/09/2025 22:51

You’ve said yourself you are in bad health and poor mental health, how are you going to look after him if he becomes really ill?

Falseknock · 17/09/2025 22:58

ormiwtbte · 17/09/2025 22:41

I have never mentioned McDonald's so I have no idea why you have quoted me and then said a medical professional would not recommend eating McDonald's.

You're right you didn't it was other posters. When my mum was going through chemo she struggled to eat. They are saying if he wants McDonald's then give it to him that's too stodgy he won't be able to look at it let alone eat it. It will make him sick. He should not be drinking smoothies either so she should not make them for him. I do think the op got a lot of good advice from this thread and she was right to call people out on their behaviour. People do come on here to vent and rage because they themselves are hurting and it's anonymous. It doesn't give them the right to bully because the op is hurting as well. She means well and she comes across as a lovely person. I hope her friend takes her up on her offer and visits weekends now and then. Maybe that's why he called her he can escape to the countryside when he wants. Once she has gotten rid of the man who is living with her.

Laura95167 · 17/09/2025 23:11

If you dont want your ex back, you need to step back. I appreciate your worry and desire to help. But you didnt work as a couple and
Iiving together in the countryside side is fantastical. It will likely remind you why you broke up or leave one of you confused about your feelings.

And your current shitshow partner will (kinda understandably) hit the roof.

Be kind, offer support but nothing this smothering is a good idea with an ex

Thulpelly · 17/09/2025 23:11

God some of these replies.
OP is suggesting to help her ex/friend? After his treatment.

You sound very caring OP and you could suggest it to him, but obviously he may say no.

I’m wondering why you feel this two things, your ex being ill and your current partner being an arsehole, are linked?

You should end it with your current partner, you seem like you don’t like him - he sounds horrific actually.
What do you mean ‘he won’t get out of your life?’ Inform the police if he’s harassing you.

You don’t need to transfer your attention to someone else to do so; fix your own life first, then you will be in a good place if you want to help your friend later.

Falseknock · 17/09/2025 23:12

After chemo, your friend is likely to have a severely weakened immune system and may need a neutropenic diet (which means no raw fruit or veg, among other things) so lots of fresh healthy juices could actually do serious harm.

This used to be the case but now it has changed as long as fruit and veg are washed it should be okay. Obviously check with the consultant first. Apparently a lot of hospitals aren't recommending that diet. They recommend a varied diet. My mum never mentioned it and she struggled to eat.

bloodcancer.org.uk/understanding-blood-cancer/treatment/infection-neutropenia-sepsis/neutropenia/eating-safely-neutropenia/#:~:text=You%20might%20have%20heard%20the,evidence%20that%20this%20reduces%20infection.

tipsyraven · 17/09/2025 23:21

JustaGirlTrying · 17/09/2025 20:36

He contacted me at 7:30 this morning saying he'd been rushed to hospital, had bits cut out of him, told he's got bowel cancer, a bag put in him and it's spread to liver and kidneys.

That's why I tizzied.

It must have been a shock and it will take time to get used to his diagnosis and treatment. A close friend had the same diagnosis and it took time to get used to it and work out the best way to support her. Rushing in with offers of juices and healthy food is probably a shock response from you but what will really help your ex is to listen to him and find out what he wants, whether it be a takeaway or something else. My friend didn’t eat particularly healthily and a cancer diagnosis didn’t change that. I had to learn to stand back and let her lead with whatever support she wanted and that wasn’t easy sometimes. Listen to him but also listen to yourself and why you feel it is your role to ‘redeem him back to good health.’ In the meantime, boot out the current boyfriend.

Ratafia · 17/09/2025 23:21

Surely if it's your house, all you need to do to get rid of your partner is to change the locks while he's out, and bag up his things and leave them outside the door for him to collect?

I really do think you should concentrate on this first, then sorting out your back. When that is done you could think about inviting your ex or anyone else you want to stay.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/09/2025 23:26

@JustaGirlTrying I think that you sound absolutely lovely, and like a very caring person, and I think that your Dex is very lucky to still have you in his life.

I also think that to be considering offering him some respite care in your own home is wonderful of you. Having been a community health care assistant myself, and then a full-time carer for my own DMum who we - my husband and I - brought into our home when she was bedridden and needed 24 hour care, I am hoping that if you haven't already had any experience in caring for an adult, that you rectify that asap, by doing as much research as possible. Whether you are just intending to give him nutritious, and possibly light meals, keep him hydrated, keep his clothes washed, and possibly to give him the correct medicines at the right time (a district nurse, or a dr, should explain that to you if you were willing to take on that responsibility), and basically just keeping him company, or are you actually considering a much more intimate roll with you maybe having to deal with single or double incontinence? if that is on the cards, and if you have not had any experience in dealing with adult incontinence, then you would definitely need some training or experience in dealing with that potentially difficult job.

If your dear friend and ex, is that seriously ill, then you could probably arrange with SS to have professional carers come to wash, change and dress him up to 3 to 4 times a day, but honestly when that was my paid job, going around individual homes out in the countryside, to give intensive care, it eventually became soul destroying as apart from the awful working conditions, I couldn't help but get personally attached to some of my clients, and attending their funerals afterwards was quite often harrowing, and they had started out as strangers.

So please don't offer him recuperative care, or on-going "towards end of life care", in your home OP, until after you know his prognosis, and what, if any, hands on care he might need. I really do think it is wonderful of you to want to be there for him, but to do so in more of a visiting supportive friend type of roll, might be better for both of you, and more realistic. I have just remembered that I think you said you have a bad back yourself OP - but I could easily be completely wrong about that - but if you do have a bad back then please, please, please, don't take on any heavy lifting, or awkward handling roles, as you could end up like me, in a wheelchair with severe arthritis in my lower spine. When I transfer, or try to take a few steps, my back feels like it has a sharp knife being constantly punched in and out of it.

I first started my so called 'caring career' when I was in my early twenties, and when I had 2 very young children at home. I only did longish weekend work back then, when my - then - Dhusband could fully take over the children's care whilst I was at work. There weren't any manual handling rules at that time, or if there were, the nursing home I worked in certainly didn't give me any training in ilthem! By the time I took up the CCW in the late 1990's (approximately 15 years later, and in another part of the country) we certainly had manual handling training for the first 2 days of my employment.

But unfortunately, when you are out in the community at about 10.30 in the evening (often in a very remote house), and your client starts losing their balance while you are trying to give them a wash down in their tiny bathroom, you just instinctively catch them any which way you can! The cluents often wanted to - quite understandably I think - stand in their bathroom, rather than have me take a warm bowl of water, soap, flannels and towels, and moisturising cream for their arms, hands, legs and feet into their lounge or bedroom, where I could have done most of their wash while they were sitting down, as I think it made them feel more normal to be standing in their bathroom for a wash down, as that is what they would have often done before they become too disabled, or too old and fragile, to do it themselves - most of them would have been born in the early parts of the 20th Century.

So anyway, you lovely lady, please do lots of research before offering your DFriend a respite holiday. Another consideration - at least partly depending on what type of cancer he has, what stage it is at, and how aggressive it is - is that it might become emotionally difficult for either him, or you, or more likely, for both of you - to send him back to his/his parents home, or even back into hospital, or even worse (because of what it would mean, rather than the amazing care he would receive there) into a hospice.

If he doesn't want to leave yours, but he can't continue to stay with you (for whatever reason, as any of your reasons would almost certainly be valid reasons), then that could become incredibly difficult for you.. Older people going into care or nursing homes, or any other establishment that means they will almost certainly not be able to go back to their home, or wherever, forever, will quite often beg their loved ones not to send them away, sometimes even saying that they will never be awkward, demanding, or make a fuss again, which is - imo - one of the worst things, and therefore, one of worst feelings in the world to have.

Without knowing what type of Cancer he has, or what stage it is at, or how aggressive it might be, it is hard to try and give you anymore advice. However, if after hearing all of that, you still find yourself wanting to invite him into your home, knowing that the possibility of you needing to take on an intimate care roll for him if necessary, or allowing strangers (care workers) to intrude into your own safe place (unfortunately, it often does feel like an intrusion) for goodness knows how long, then may I suggest that if you have something like a Leonard Cheshire Nursing Home, or any other type of nursing home near to you, it might be a good idea to see if you could become a volunteer carer for at least a few days, or preferably, weeks.

Inyournewdress · 17/09/2025 23:36

I am sorry to hear about your current relationship @JustaGirlTrying And so sorry about your ex being so ill. Poor guy and his family,

I would make it your priority to get out of your bad relationship and to stabilise your own life and wellbeing. Obviously you need to do that for yourself but it also will mean you are in a better place to help your ex if and when needed.

I think it’s great you want to support your ex who has supported you, and I think it’s completely natural when you get news like this to want to do big things to help. But, here’s the thing…don’t rush in. I know it’s potentially something for your ex to look forward to, but there is so much unpredictable…he needs to focus on himself, see how his treatment is going and how he feels, you need to sort out your life situation. Just support him as you can, as you are doing with the pip application, (and support his medical decisions) but don’t offer too much too soon. If and when the time comes when it might be right, you could offer to let him come and have a break in the countryside, no pressure to accept or stay long term. I don’t think that’s crazy just because he is your ex or anything. I just think it is way way too soon to mention. Sort yourself out, and keep that idea on hold in case it’s appropriate down the line.