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Lacking adult female friendships - help.

119 replies

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 15:07

It has taken me quite a lot to post this as I feel
such a sense of embarrassment and shame… However, I’m really embarrassed to admit that I barely have any friends at age 35. I’m not really sure how I’ve got here. Particularly female friends.

My partner and I are TTC, which is lonely in itself so I am not a Mum and cannot connect to other females in this way. I’m on a TTC thread on here which is helpful 🩷

I work from home- so my job itself, although people orientated, is pretty damn isolating. It’s a remote job and everyone works across the country.

I have a couple of female friends my age I made through previous workplaces and through university that I stay in touch with. However, many of them live an hour and a half away from me at different parts of the country. I don’t see them regularly. It might be once a month, if that.

I don’t have any siblings. My partner works in London. Just very lonely really.

My mental health is not great as a result, but I would love to meet new people and have a better social life. I just have absolutely no idea how to do this at my age and stage of life.

Does anyone have any ideas?

I’ve tried exercise classes - people keep to themselves. I want to make meaningful relationships where we can see each other and speak regularly.

I really am open to suggestions. I feel I’ve a lot to give friendships. I’m a girly girl, love walking, hiking, spas, eating out, travel, dogs, shopping, movies, music, concerts, food, cooking, baking.

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pinkspeakers · 29/07/2025 22:17

CrystalSingerFan · 29/07/2025 21:25

Give it a go! As far as I can tell, there's no belief requirements. I'm an atheist and have every intention of trying it.

I just wonder what you mean by ardent? I get the impression there might be believers who ring bells and for me, I'd just not engage in any discussion about religious beliefs and, if asked, point out that I'm an atheist. But I used to know another atheist who wouldn't even go into architecturally marvellous, historically interesting churches and cathedrals. That's not gonna work for bellringing. 😋

Oh, maybe “ardent” was a bit strong! I visit churches quite often and will attend services when needed for weddings etc and even a good evensong occasionally the music. I think I wanted to clearly distinguish from being agnostic or just not religious. I’d find being part of a church focused community uncomfortable.

pinkspeakers · 29/07/2025 22:23

@CrystalSingerFan pinkspeakers=irregularegular, just different log in.

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 22:23

Muffin002 · 29/07/2025 21:39

Where in Kent, Peony? I’m on the Kent/East Sussex border, around the same age as you and enjoy similar things to you.

Edited

I’ll DM you 😊

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CrystalSingerFan · 29/07/2025 22:27

pinkspeakers · 29/07/2025 22:23

@CrystalSingerFan pinkspeakers=irregularegular, just different log in.

Errr?

Wintermothering · 29/07/2025 22:28

I feel very similarly

I started to worry something was wrong with me, but remembered I have friends a distance away.

Have a young DC but struggled with mum friends too. I’ve trying to say yes to every invite but not made long lasting meaningful friendships. Work is tricky, hybrid working, sometimes it’s easier keeping work and personal lives separate I’ve found in past

I have heard from multiple people that CrossFit/hyrox similar style gyms are very sociable, and mix exercise with social events. I hope to try this one day when I have more free time - good luck TTC, it’s probably the wise to try more things now whilst you have a bit more free time :-)

Mademetoxic · 29/07/2025 22:30

Hiya. I'm 33 and lonely as well. Have friends but they are all preoccupied with their own lives. This age is definitely hard and one of the loneliness times.
I'm also single as well so don't even have a partner to do anything with :(

If you want to pm you can do. I'm located in the North west.

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 22:31

Philbobs · 29/07/2025 21:42

Know that you're not alone!
I'm 47 this year and have virtually no friends. I've had difficulty with friendships my whole life for a few reasons...
I've moved around a lot and have spent no more than 3 years in any given job.
I don't have kids so haven't had the opportunity to make 'mum friends'.
I've had a few girlfriends that have made a move on males I've shown an interest in - but they weren't interested until I pointed out I liked the guys in question.
I've been the instigator for catch ups with friends, without it being reciprocated, and I've found myself being the 'I have no better option ' option for so-called friends.
I've always been generous when it comes to paying for things, but I've had a number of girlfriends that have tried to take the absolute p*.
I go to the gym (for gym sessions and classes), but most female gym goers go there with friends or family, or they simply know everyone already (I live in a small town, but have only been here 4 years).
I have a very small but dysfunctional family. It's a 2 hour drive to the nearest relative. I don't really speak to or see any of them. They've never shown any interest in anyone other than my sister (which she is oblivious to).
It can be very lonely at times. But when I remind myself of the one-sidedness and energy and money I've sunk into friendships in the past, I feel a bit better about my situation.

Thanks for sharing the realities…
if it’s any consolation, you actually sound like a great person. I’m sorry people seem to have taken advantage of that in the past.
I also seem to be the instigator in many of my friendships too - seems to be a trend! If I take a step back and don’t plan anything with them, it can go weeks… months… without us meeting. I find it upsetting and it takes a lot of energy to keep initiating! I also have a friend who seems to use me as a bit of a sounding board as she’s going through a divorce… never seems to be free to meet up either as they have a son.

Another thing to add - most of my female friends have sisters, and I’ve noticed they tend to do stuff with them. I don’t have that, so find myself at a loose end.

DH is up for being social and meeting new people, so we are going to try some of the suggestions on here together. I suggested bell ringing to him and he laughed!!

I love the idea of a team sport or art class currently or possibly volunteering. Just need to find the right ones, but I’m in the exploratory phase of this change of mine I’m making, lol.

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PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 22:33

Mademetoxic · 29/07/2025 22:30

Hiya. I'm 33 and lonely as well. Have friends but they are all preoccupied with their own lives. This age is definitely hard and one of the loneliness times.
I'm also single as well so don't even have a partner to do anything with :(

If you want to pm you can do. I'm located in the North west.

Aww lovely. That is hard. Bless you. I’m happy to PM you. Have any of the suggestions on here given you some ideas at all?

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Crikeyalmighty · 29/07/2025 22:34

@Philbobs a lot of that is near to the mark for me too - and I’m a sociable and caring friend as well , I find a lot of people very flakey these days.

pinkspeakers · 29/07/2025 22:35

CrystalSingerFan · 29/07/2025 22:27

Errr?

You asked irregularregular about being an atheist, and then pinkspeakers replied, but they are both me.

Sorry, bit cryptic!!

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 22:38

KeenSnail · 29/07/2025 21:56

I know how you feel. I was terribly lonely myself a few years back in my mid twenties, my journey to motherhood was emotional, painful and left me feeling like an outsider to the rest of the world.
We were lucky to have a healthy boy after IVF and I made some wonderful friendships during pregnancy and motherhood.
I attended NCT classes which were fantastic and everyone there remarked how lonely they felt and that they wanted to make friends. I made a friend who shared my due date, two years later and we still talk most days and meet at least every other month. After I gave birth I joined an app called Peanut.
Peanut connects people in all stages of parenthood (TTC included) and the friend I made there is someone who is absolutely one in a million.
Wishing you all luck ❤️

You sound lovely. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences 🩷

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Sjh15 · 29/07/2025 22:46

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 15:07

It has taken me quite a lot to post this as I feel
such a sense of embarrassment and shame… However, I’m really embarrassed to admit that I barely have any friends at age 35. I’m not really sure how I’ve got here. Particularly female friends.

My partner and I are TTC, which is lonely in itself so I am not a Mum and cannot connect to other females in this way. I’m on a TTC thread on here which is helpful 🩷

I work from home- so my job itself, although people orientated, is pretty damn isolating. It’s a remote job and everyone works across the country.

I have a couple of female friends my age I made through previous workplaces and through university that I stay in touch with. However, many of them live an hour and a half away from me at different parts of the country. I don’t see them regularly. It might be once a month, if that.

I don’t have any siblings. My partner works in London. Just very lonely really.

My mental health is not great as a result, but I would love to meet new people and have a better social life. I just have absolutely no idea how to do this at my age and stage of life.

Does anyone have any ideas?

I’ve tried exercise classes - people keep to themselves. I want to make meaningful relationships where we can see each other and speak regularly.

I really am open to suggestions. I feel I’ve a lot to give friendships. I’m a girly girl, love walking, hiking, spas, eating out, travel, dogs, shopping, movies, music, concerts, food, cooking, baking.

I’m age 35.
2 sons. One is 3 and one is 8 months
I stay with them all day, work in the evening
gosh it’s lonely!!!!!
maybe we should be friends.

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 22:50

Sjh15 · 29/07/2025 22:46

I’m age 35.
2 sons. One is 3 and one is 8 months
I stay with them all day, work in the evening
gosh it’s lonely!!!!!
maybe we should be friends.

Ooof that sounds like a handful. I feel this way about my two dogs, but nowhere near the same as two children under 5 I imagine 😅
Whereabkuts are you located?

I feel like I should start a service a bit like Peanut but arranging regular meet ups specifically for women across the UK - wouldn’t that be a great idea.

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MascaraGirl · 29/07/2025 22:51

Most of my friends now are from my am dram group. I will say though that it took me about 5 years of being in the group before I made real friends there. My experience is that friendships (especially deep ones) take time. It has to be a hobby you love, not just a way to make friends, and the friends come in time

I also met my circle through a hobby. A hobby with a WhatsApp group is also useful, an easy, no-pressure way to keep in touch and it’s so easy to ask if anyone fancies a coffee/drink etc

Mademetoxic · 29/07/2025 23:32

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 22:33

Aww lovely. That is hard. Bless you. I’m happy to PM you. Have any of the suggestions on here given you some ideas at all?

I do a lot by myself. I don't mind my own company usually, but it gets very lonely when you see groups enjoying themselves out together.

But then I remind myself that even if you're in a group, someone in that group could be feeling very lonely and masking it.

Where are you located? I'm north West.

SharpWriter · 29/07/2025 23:46

I started an adult tap dancing class a few months ago. It feels like a team sport as we are trying to keep up with the teacher and each other! It's actually very difficult which leads to a bit of bonding as we all ask each other for tips and there are opportunities to chat before and after the class. I've found this much better than a fitness class or similar things where people are just there to do the activity and aren't interested in getting to know anyone else.

A couple of years ago I did a bee keeping course where I met really interesting people! There is also a sense of community as people need help from each other (you can't really ask your neighbour to pop over to check on your bees when you go on holiday).

Good luck OP. I hope you find what you're looking for.

Wolfpinkola · 29/07/2025 23:52

You sound lovely.
I’ve always found clubs really good for friends, running club or swimming club - going through shared pain is very bonding !! Or book club or walking club for a gentler experience

Katia2517 · 30/07/2025 00:12

I am in Kent too and while I have some mum friends which I met when my kids started school, I still feel lonely sometimes. If you're near me, I'd love to meet up for a walk/ coffee/ drink. I found that when my kids were little, I did not make many friends, it was more when they started school.

nowitsmetime · 30/07/2025 00:23

I don't know if this will make anyone feel any better but I think as we move through different life stages, we do naturally shed and hopefully make new friends so inevitably there will be times when we feel lonely. Media makes out that friends should last a life time, something I once believed, but actually that isn't true. Yes there are a few friendships that last but many friends are only for a season. When I had young children, I made quite a few close mum friends. My children are young adults now and although I am still friendly with many of them, I feel myself and them heading towards new chapters in our lives. I don't know whether these friendships will survive a life not centred around our children!

Philbobs · 30/07/2025 03:37

@PeonyPatch
"Another thing to add - most of my female friends have sisters, and I’ve noticed they tend to do stuff with them. I don’t have that, so find myself at a loose end."

Yes, agreed. Although I have a sister she's never been interested in spending time together. For many years I've seen her about once a year and it's always been on her terms - she rejects suggestions I make. I've found that most females have at least one relative (sister, mum, aunt, nan, or otherwise) they're close with. So it feels doubly hard when you have neither close family nor true friends.

I wish you the best of luck with the social activities by the way. Here's to meeting others that give back as much time and energy as you give. 🤗 And also the very best of luck with TTC. That can also be very lonely and emotional. x

qwerty36 · 30/07/2025 05:45

@PeonyPatch I’m 37 in Surrey. I’d love to make a friend if you would like to dm me.

TofuEater · 30/07/2025 06:18

PeonyPatch · 29/07/2025 21:26

I walk my dogs daily at our local park.., nothing more than a few brief exchanges :( not to mention everyone seems to be 45-60+ lol so not great for me.

I should’ve lived in London. I dream of living somewhere trendy like Greenwich, Richmond etc

What is wrong with having friends older than you? Are you limiting yourself by rejecting people not your age?

PeonyPatch · 30/07/2025 07:15

TofuEater · 30/07/2025 06:18

What is wrong with having friends older than you? Are you limiting yourself by rejecting people not your age?

Morning - no absolutely not, I have a couple of friends who are older than me and have kids etc I.e. 40s/50s. I just feel I need a few more friends a little bit closer in age to me. I’m completely open tho.

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PeonyPatch · 30/07/2025 07:17

qwerty36 · 30/07/2025 05:45

@PeonyPatch I’m 37 in Surrey. I’d love to make a friend if you would like to dm me.

I’ve just tried to dm you but for some reason it won’t let me, feel free to dm me instead 😊

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PeonyPatch · 30/07/2025 07:20

nowitsmetime · 30/07/2025 00:23

I don't know if this will make anyone feel any better but I think as we move through different life stages, we do naturally shed and hopefully make new friends so inevitably there will be times when we feel lonely. Media makes out that friends should last a life time, something I once believed, but actually that isn't true. Yes there are a few friendships that last but many friends are only for a season. When I had young children, I made quite a few close mum friends. My children are young adults now and although I am still friendly with many of them, I feel myself and them heading towards new chapters in our lives. I don't know whether these friendships will survive a life not centred around our children!

I agree with you - I often think about this, and I’ve read articles that suggest you naturally drift apart from friends / people. I also feel that friendships require both people in it to maintain and nurture it and when it’s only one of you, you can find it’s just not really giving you what you need.

I also think (maybe an assumption) many people don’t want to go out of their way to maintain friendships e.g. they’d rather just hang out with people who are very local to them and fit around their lives…

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