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New relationship ex problems!!

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electronicpiccalilli · 16/07/2025 23:20

This is potentially quite long but let’s see, want to give as much context and background as possible…

I’ve recently started seeing someone, it’s been a few months all is going well. I have one DS2 with no father involved. Been single since I was pregnant as obviously focused on my DS and wanted to make sure if I did start something in the future it was with somebody decent and have been very intolerant of any red flags or even any little thing. This is my first time dating since my DS. The person I’ve started seeing isn’t a stranger it’s someone I’ve known for a long time, 15+ years. Not a close friendship but think local area friends at one point but drift apart etc. He has been married for over a decade but going through divorce as his ex had an affair (actually two affairs but he forgave the first, second it was over). They live apart and properly separated just the legal stuff isn’t yet finalised but in process.

We see each other usually around once a week, sometimes a little more or less but that’s the average. I work full time and have my DS full time, he stays with his sister (on his dad’s side she’s in her 20s) one night a week. He has two DD, 5 and 4, he sees them every other weekend. He works away in the week most of the time and this has always been the case even when married, so now they have to split weekends. We have met each others children, not introduced as new partners and no kissing or pda of any kind around the children don’t want to confuse them. If we were strangers to each other then we wouldn’t have met each others children yet but we aren’t so no issue and they only see us as friends and enjoy playing together. I don’t see his children every time he has them maybe every other time so roughly once a month and usually only for one of the days. He has met mine more often just due to me having him full time.

Everything between him and ex seemed quite amicable until she found out I was on the scene. For context once he discovered affair she initiated divorce. Once she found out I was on the scene it has just been awful and chaotic and intense. She’s been begging him to take her back, stalking all my socials even down to LinkedIn and calling him to try and downplay my job etc etc. She has been making what is a new relationship just developing seem very intense and saying things to him like ‘our children have a new sibling you’re going to fall in love and marry her and she’s going to take all the money that’s coming to you from the divorce’. This is just constant all the time, emotional blackmail or manipulation into going on family days out or lunches all disguised as trying to keep things ‘normal’ for the children. Which I personally think will confuse them more but not up to me. And it’s also not done for that reason reading between the lines, it seems to be point scoring and any excuse to keep the lines of communication open. Even to the point of an anniversary lunch!

Now I’m quite a laidback person and I would really like them to be amicable enough to be able to do these things platonically and for the children going forwards but thqt just isn’t the case at the moment.

After the anniversary lunch I told him my feelings and explained that can’t be happening when we are trying to build something albeit in it’s early stages, he apologised and explained he’s trying to do the right thing for the children but feels like he keeps getting it wrong. The lunch ended with her begging him again and him declining. Then a whispered threat of ‘if we don’t get back together you can have the kids full time as I will no longer be here’ which is obviously awful.

The next thing is the kids aren’t allowed to be around me as I’m a ‘stranger’. I offered to meet her for a coffee but that was declined. He didn’t play by those rules as when they are with him he makes the decisions. As long as they are safe and looked after it’s not up to her.

Throughout all this she is not single and still seeing the man she cheated with! I don’t even think she is wants ex husband back it just seems to be a jealousy thing as he has never moved on or met someone new before.

The final thing has been last weekend we all camped out in my garden together, two bedroom tent kids in one us in the other. It was really hot so we thought it would be fun for them and also much cooler than indoors! She has found out and it’s ended in the eldest crying and saying she didn’t want to come here anyway and just wants daddy to come home. I feel this has come from her mum as they all had a blast on the day.

I just feel so awful for the children and I don’t know whqt to do?! On the one hand I don’t want to let her win and cause us to go separate ways just cause she’s making it so difficult but on the other hand I don’t want to contribute to the children being used to play games and getting upset, it’s not their fault.

I do also feel that he isn’t standing his ground and setting boundaries as much as he should be doing. It hasn’t been long enough for me to get involved and tell him what to do or navigate this for him. He is a good guy navigating a situation he never thought he would have to and he’s making a lot of mistakes. He seems to have done the least and gone along with her to try and keep the peace and it’s ended up not working at all. She is constantly calling and texting him. He feels totally overwhelmed/stressed/guilty and the rest. I personally think he needs to stand up for himself and be more assertive, set boundaries and limit communication unless it’s necessary about the children, at least until they get to a place where they can be amicable and co-parent together properly.

My issue is - I really like him, think we have a potential of a good future however that looks. We are very compatible and tick all each others boxes, get on very easily he’s very open and honest etc etc. but I feel this situation has made things intense for us very quickly and made us deal with things we shouldn’t really have to be worrying about just yet. If he doesn’t step up properly and deal with the situation with his ex is that a sign of things to come? Should I have some more patience? I know what I would do in his shoes and what I’d like him to do but it’s not my decision and it’s not for me to push my opinions on him or tell him what to do, it’s much too early for me to lay the law down so aggressively. But if I don’t is it going to end badly cause of her? Or cause of him not dealing with it effectively? I have sympathy and know these things are hard but it’s my life too…. Any advice?!

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Eastendboysandwestendgirls · 16/07/2025 23:26

It's been a few months. You've met each others children, had a sleepover with a 5, 4 and 2 yo sleeping on a different tent while you "don't do PDAs" in a different tent, he's going through a divorce and you are unsure how to proceed.
My polite version is: dump him, try dating without getting overly involved and invested so fast, don't play happy families after 2 months, find someone emotionally available and unmarried.
Edited because clearly didn't read properly.

Rainbowqueeen · 16/07/2025 23:30

I'd break up. She will be in his life forever and he has shown very clearly that he will not stand up to her in the way you would like. Over time this will destroy your relationship. Better to get out now

electronicpiccalilli · 16/07/2025 23:53

Eastendboysandwestendgirls · 16/07/2025 23:26

It's been a few months. You've met each others children, had a sleepover with a 5, 4 and 2 yo sleeping on a different tent while you "don't do PDAs" in a different tent, he's going through a divorce and you are unsure how to proceed.
My polite version is: dump him, try dating without getting overly involved and invested so fast, don't play happy families after 2 months, find someone emotionally available and unmarried.
Edited because clearly didn't read properly.

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I haven’t got overly involved. I’m not involved in any of that. We weren’t in different tents all the same tent. Diff bedrooms in the tent. I’m genuinely not playing happy families I see him once a week we haven’t rushed anything. As I said we already know each other hence being comfortable with the kids being around otherwise that wouldn’t have happened. He is emotionally available he’s open and honest. I don’t have any issues with him in general it’s just that situation. I don’t want to end something prematurely that just requires patience but equally don’t want to waste my time

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electronicpiccalilli · 16/07/2025 23:54

Rainbowqueeen · 16/07/2025 23:30

I'd break up. She will be in his life forever and he has shown very clearly that he will not stand up to her in the way you would like. Over time this will destroy your relationship. Better to get out now

Yes this is my concern. But is it that he won’t stand up to her cause they are still navigating this situation or is it because this is how he is? It’s difficult to know. Everything else is great

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Rainbowqueeen · 17/07/2025 00:10

electronicpiccalilli · 16/07/2025 23:54

Yes this is my concern. But is it that he won’t stand up to her cause they are still navigating this situation or is it because this is how he is? It’s difficult to know. Everything else is great

In that case, take a break. Tell him to sort things out with his ex and then come find you once that is done. But if you do nothing then nothing will change.

supercali77 · 17/07/2025 00:10

It's early days but you have known each other longer. So while you can't 'make' him do things differently. You can sit him down absolutely and ask...what's your plan here? Is there a plan? And make clear that while you like him, you do question whether this ongoing situation means he can't really have a functioning adult relationship at this point.

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 00:14

Rainbowqueeen · 17/07/2025 00:10

In that case, take a break. Tell him to sort things out with his ex and then come find you once that is done. But if you do nothing then nothing will change.

Sorry I keep quoting I can’t find the reply button! I have had that conversation with him and he says he is going to. It just feels really unfair like we’ve been forced into this intense situation that shouldn’t even be a concern. All because of another person, if she hadn’t caused problems etc then it would still just be early days see each other once a week see how things progress no rush. It’s too soon for me to be involved but I have offered to meet her to ease her concerns but she refused. I feel as though I’m damned either way. I walk away from something potentially great or I stay and it never ends

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electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 00:23

supercali77 · 17/07/2025 00:10

It's early days but you have known each other longer. So while you can't 'make' him do things differently. You can sit him down absolutely and ask...what's your plan here? Is there a plan? And make clear that while you like him, you do question whether this ongoing situation means he can't really have a functioning adult relationship at this point.

Yes I’ve had similar to this conversation after the anniversary lunch. I explained everything I was feeling in a calm way and he responded really positively. Apologised and thanked me for telling him how I felt, explained he has been trying to do the right thing to keep the peace and just making it worse but that it will get better. Then the camping situation happened. I obviously don’t see their communication but he has given me no reason not to trust him so far. It’s like he says the right things to her but doesn’t follow through on actions. Will time fix that? If it will then I’m happy to give a little time but if it’s a personality trait then I’m not willing to be with someone who won’t step up for these sorts of things. Yes we are early so I don’t want to overstep either. It’s not my decision to make and I don’t want to be in his ear having constant opinions on his marriage that didn’t work

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outerspacepotato · 17/07/2025 00:31

You think you have the potential of a happy future after dating a few months? Rushing a bit there.

This guy has young children and is already in a high conflict separation and it's not going to ease up after the divorce.

You guys introduced the kids way too fast and he's already sleeping over and having them sleep over. That's what your camping was. That is NOT the way to de escalate a high conflict situation with the ex.

You want him to handle his ex differently. That's not a situation you should be putting your 2¢ into. You're overstepping.

Do you really want all this drama? Because that is what you are signing yourself and your child up for if you keep seeing this guy. He's always going to have issues with the ex. You are already trying to control how he handles her and that's not up to you.

Put the brakes on this until his divorce has gone through at least. You two are really rushing things using a high conflict ex as an excuse

Poonu · 17/07/2025 00:34

You're waaaaaay too invested.
You've been dating one minute.
Take some space if he's prepared to make it work he will put the effort it.

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 00:45

outerspacepotato · 17/07/2025 00:31

You think you have the potential of a happy future after dating a few months? Rushing a bit there.

This guy has young children and is already in a high conflict separation and it's not going to ease up after the divorce.

You guys introduced the kids way too fast and he's already sleeping over and having them sleep over. That's what your camping was. That is NOT the way to de escalate a high conflict situation with the ex.

You want him to handle his ex differently. That's not a situation you should be putting your 2¢ into. You're overstepping.

Do you really want all this drama? Because that is what you are signing yourself and your child up for if you keep seeing this guy. He's always going to have issues with the ex. You are already trying to control how he handles her and that's not up to you.

Put the brakes on this until his divorce has gone through at least. You two are really rushing things using a high conflict ex as an excuse

That’s why I said potential, nothing is set in stone obviously and it’s early days but based on how it’s gone so far it’s got the potential yes. Not a definite.

It only seemed to become high conflict though when he began to move on - before that it was fine.

Like I said we weren’t strangers, if it was somebody I didn’t know then of course the kids wouldn’t have met but it wasn’t an issue cause we’ve known each other a long time. The camping is the only time they have stayed here it’s not a regular thing and nor is it going to be, it was just supposed to be a fun thing for the kids. They have also been around mums new guy so it feels really hypocritical.

I’m not trying to control anything - I’m actively making sure I’m not overstepping as it’s still early days. I’m not telling him what to do or giving him any ultimatums but it’s an indicator isn’t it of the future. I don’t want to stick around in the hope that it will settle down if that is never going to happen. Do you believe the behaviour I have described of her is ok? It feels like I’m only in this situation where it’s become intense because of her reaction to him seeing someone new.

We genuinely haven’t rushed anything - I don’t see him lots it’s once a week average we’re not texting all day every day we’ve taken it slow. It feels like we’re being forced to rush cause based on her reaction talking about marriage and siblings etc

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electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 00:46

Poonu · 17/07/2025 00:34

You're waaaaaay too invested.
You've been dating one minute.
Take some space if he's prepared to make it work he will put the effort it.

I am invested yes. It’s the first person I’ve dated and given a chance to in almost three years. Everything else is great and it was all going so smooth until this. I know it’s very early days that’s why I’m trying to make sure I do the right thing

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outerspacepotato · 17/07/2025 00:55

It doesn't matter whether her behaviour is ok or not. Her behaviour is what it is and your BF has to deal with it because they have two children.

You are rushing things and using ex as an excuse. That's just going to get you a whole lot more drama. Your kid should not have met him yet. His divorce isn't even final. His kids shouldn't have met you much less had a sleepover. If anything, his kid's reaction after the sleepover should tell you two to slow your roll here.

Just because you've known him for years doesn't mean you know him as a romantic partner for years. People can hold strange surprises.

So she has a man in her life. That means your BF should be all the more careful with his kids' hearts and not be rushing into things. Sometimes you do what's right for your kids and suck up not having a gf for a while. Your thinking is tit for that and that's not in the kids' best interests.

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 01:03

outerspacepotato · 17/07/2025 00:55

It doesn't matter whether her behaviour is ok or not. Her behaviour is what it is and your BF has to deal with it because they have two children.

You are rushing things and using ex as an excuse. That's just going to get you a whole lot more drama. Your kid should not have met him yet. His divorce isn't even final. His kids shouldn't have met you much less had a sleepover. If anything, his kid's reaction after the sleepover should tell you two to slow your roll here.

Just because you've known him for years doesn't mean you know him as a romantic partner for years. People can hold strange surprises.

So she has a man in her life. That means your BF should be all the more careful with his kids' hearts and not be rushing into things. Sometimes you do what's right for your kids and suck up not having a gf for a while. Your thinking is tit for that and that's not in the kids' best interests.

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Surely her behaviour matters? Since that is why we’re in this situation in the first place? Especially considering the marriage ended due to her infidelity? I’d understand if it was the other way around.

How is it rushed? From your perspective cause I genuinely believed I had been slow and careful. See each other not too much, no major changes to either of our lives or routines, we aren’t officially in a relationship either. Why shouldn’t the kids have met? If strangers then I agree but we aren’t and the kids haven’t been introduced as anything other than daddy’s friend. The kids reaction after the sleepover was only after mum found out and went mad about it, on the actual day they had a great time.

No I don’t know him as a romantic partner I agree that’s a new level of getting to know each other. Hence why I thought we were taking it slow.

but it’s hypocritical- she has a man in her life, the same man she had an affair with, he can be around the kids and that’s ok? But the guy who was cheated on can’t move on? He already forgave one affair and this one was the final straw. Surely he is entitled to move on? Of course the kids come first and since the latest with her clearly letting the kids hear her thoughts and getting upset it’s worrying me. I don’t want to contribute to that

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Brandyb · 17/07/2025 01:09

Rainbowqueeen · 17/07/2025 00:10

In that case, take a break. Tell him to sort things out with his ex and then come find you once that is done. But if you do nothing then nothing will change.

Maybe this.

Or you just stay and wait it out but it might be a big waste of your time. I can see the dilemma but how long can you wait for it to be fixed?

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 01:17

Brandyb · 17/07/2025 01:09

Maybe this.

Or you just stay and wait it out but it might be a big waste of your time. I can see the dilemma but how long can you wait for it to be fixed?

This is what I don’t know, how long is it acceptable to take to find your feet in a divorce? Till it becomes respectful or amicable or even just civil. I’ve never been through it. I don’t want to punish him and walk away when he’s trying and just not getting it right yet. But I don’t wanna hang around if he’s never gonna set boundaries and always do the ‘easy’ option

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Daygloboo · 17/07/2025 01:27

Rainbowqueeen · 17/07/2025 00:10

In that case, take a break. Tell him to sort things out with his ex and then come find you once that is done. But if you do nothing then nothing will change.

Yes I thought take a break too. Get him to sort his shit out and come back to you when Iin a better position

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 01:32

Daygloboo · 17/07/2025 01:27

Yes I thought take a break too. Get him to sort his shit out and come back to you when Iin a better position

Yes this might be the thing I have to do. It’s a shame cause everything else is great and this only started when he moved on. It feels like I’m punishing him for her actions

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electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 01:33

I’m actually really surprised at how negative the responses have been. It seems to all have been about him despite the not nice behaviour from the other party, which is the the only reasons we seem to be at this crossroad. She has actively caused trouble, allowed her children to hear her thoughts and opinions and therefore want to please her (obviously they love their mum) seemingly just to get her own way despite already being in another relationship. He hasn’t done anything wrong and it’s all anyone has focused on. That we are in the wrong and we just have to deal with this horrible behaviour. Would you all say this if it was the man who had affairs then did this afterwards? I’m not saying I’m perfect or dealt with the situation exactly as I should have but come on. She’s threatened suicide if he doesn’t go back! It’s got that bad. And now nothing has worked the young kids have to hear her saying how they shouldn’t be here and how mad she is, till they cry and say they didn’t want to anyway. Nobody should have to put up with that cause they’ve moved on. The focus has been on the kids meeting and us apparently rushing. Which if I have I’m happy to hear what I could have done differently. The kids things yeah I agree in any other circumstance but already know and trust each other.

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Daygloboo · 17/07/2025 01:45

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 01:33

I’m actually really surprised at how negative the responses have been. It seems to all have been about him despite the not nice behaviour from the other party, which is the the only reasons we seem to be at this crossroad. She has actively caused trouble, allowed her children to hear her thoughts and opinions and therefore want to please her (obviously they love their mum) seemingly just to get her own way despite already being in another relationship. He hasn’t done anything wrong and it’s all anyone has focused on. That we are in the wrong and we just have to deal with this horrible behaviour. Would you all say this if it was the man who had affairs then did this afterwards? I’m not saying I’m perfect or dealt with the situation exactly as I should have but come on. She’s threatened suicide if he doesn’t go back! It’s got that bad. And now nothing has worked the young kids have to hear her saying how they shouldn’t be here and how mad she is, till they cry and say they didn’t want to anyway. Nobody should have to put up with that cause they’ve moved on. The focus has been on the kids meeting and us apparently rushing. Which if I have I’m happy to hear what I could have done differently. The kids things yeah I agree in any other circumstance but already know and trust each other.

Tell him to tell her the reason they broke up is because she cheated..and that she has burnt her boats and he is not standing for it. Then give it time to sink in. She will eventually get the message that he is not coming back. Give it a bit if time.. Then he can come back to you and you can move forward. Sounds like you have a good basis for a successful relationship so waiting a few months until she cools down won't hurt. She's reacting like that coz she realises she's f*** up.

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 01:57

Daygloboo · 17/07/2025 01:45

Tell him to tell her the reason they broke up is because she cheated..and that she has burnt her boats and he is not standing for it. Then give it time to sink in. She will eventually get the message that he is not coming back. Give it a bit if time.. Then he can come back to you and you can move forward. Sounds like you have a good basis for a successful relationship so waiting a few months until she cools down won't hurt. She's reacting like that coz she realises she's f*** up.

Yeah he has done this to an extent but he still lets her have the ‘control’ she texts and calls him numerous times a day. More so since she found out about me. Although he is saying the right things like he doesn’t love her anymore etc he isn’t necessarily following through to stop it. If she gets a response to a call or text even a negative one she will continue to contact or argue or whatever to keep the lines of communication open. She has said what he is doing with me is just as bad cause they’re not divorced yet. Even though they live separately now. My advice was to just ignore all communication unless it’s necessary about the kids in my experience people like that only get bored when they get nothing back. He struggles to not defend himself which I get but he needs to do something else it will never end! I only advised when he told me and said if it was me I would do this…but said ultimately it’s up to you it’s not my decision and not my life. It would be easy if he was a bad guy, I’d just walk away, in fact I never would have got this far but he isn’t. I’m his first ‘new’ potential relationship since he met his wife so I get it’s all new but this can’t continue forever. I’ve offered to meet her but she won’t

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CustardCream31 · 17/07/2025 02:24

Jumping on to give you some solidarity here…

Very similar experience for me and my now DH and his ex. She was bitter and intense when we first started dating - almost exactly what you describe. We introduced kids after 3/4 months, and ended up living together after 10ish months. We are now married, extremely happy and have a baby on the way nearly 4yrs on.

But I won’t lie, it was freaking hard at the beginning with everything you’ve been going through and more. I’ve shed a lot of tears and held my DH’s hand through some tough times. In the beginning he felt he had to please her so she didn’t turn the kids against him or keep contact from him (she did several times, but we persevered and remain having 50/50 with his kids). In the end he had to have some very strict boundaries in place regarding her contacting him. Look up the grey rock method which is designed to limit contact and conflict. In the end he had to resort to blocking her and email contact only regarding the children, and even her partner (who she was with before he met me, and likely had an affair hence her calling time on their marriage) had to step in to manage her feelings because she was being ridiculous.

Bottom line is you really like him, can see a future, and you both deserve to be happy without the ex causing all this grief. But this is on him to manage boundaries and expectations. Sometimes “amicable coparenting” just can’t work because one party is hellbent on using it as point scoring - as your partners ex is, and as mine tried for a while too. All days out, “things together for the children”, birthdays, etc. need to stop to find peace. Otherwise the kids will definitely pick up on it anyway. They will also learn the new normal and boundaries. If she says anything unkind to them directed at you, you’ve both just got to explain they are loved and cared for by dad, and not bring any adult conflict or feelings towards the other parent into it.

It won’t be easy. Yes you will need patience and to be his support. But this needs to come from him to try and find a harmonious path for you both. Don’t be afraid to speak up and be a strong support for him - if he’s like my wonderful, kind and loving DH, he will be feeling torn in a “people pleasing” stage due to the ex’s behaviour.

Genuinely wishing you all the best.

electronicpiccalilli · 17/07/2025 02:46

CustardCream31 · 17/07/2025 02:24

Jumping on to give you some solidarity here…

Very similar experience for me and my now DH and his ex. She was bitter and intense when we first started dating - almost exactly what you describe. We introduced kids after 3/4 months, and ended up living together after 10ish months. We are now married, extremely happy and have a baby on the way nearly 4yrs on.

But I won’t lie, it was freaking hard at the beginning with everything you’ve been going through and more. I’ve shed a lot of tears and held my DH’s hand through some tough times. In the beginning he felt he had to please her so she didn’t turn the kids against him or keep contact from him (she did several times, but we persevered and remain having 50/50 with his kids). In the end he had to have some very strict boundaries in place regarding her contacting him. Look up the grey rock method which is designed to limit contact and conflict. In the end he had to resort to blocking her and email contact only regarding the children, and even her partner (who she was with before he met me, and likely had an affair hence her calling time on their marriage) had to step in to manage her feelings because she was being ridiculous.

Bottom line is you really like him, can see a future, and you both deserve to be happy without the ex causing all this grief. But this is on him to manage boundaries and expectations. Sometimes “amicable coparenting” just can’t work because one party is hellbent on using it as point scoring - as your partners ex is, and as mine tried for a while too. All days out, “things together for the children”, birthdays, etc. need to stop to find peace. Otherwise the kids will definitely pick up on it anyway. They will also learn the new normal and boundaries. If she says anything unkind to them directed at you, you’ve both just got to explain they are loved and cared for by dad, and not bring any adult conflict or feelings towards the other parent into it.

It won’t be easy. Yes you will need patience and to be his support. But this needs to come from him to try and find a harmonious path for you both. Don’t be afraid to speak up and be a strong support for him - if he’s like my wonderful, kind and loving DH, he will be feeling torn in a “people pleasing” stage due to the ex’s behaviour.

Genuinely wishing you all the best.

Thankyou for this! I thought I was going mad with all the negative responses wondering if I’ve read the situation entirely incorrect. I’m glad you’re out the other side. Sounds like a slog though. Yea that’s exactly it the people pleasing. He never thought he would be in this situation and honestly she doesn’t want him she just doesn’t want him to move on. I just don’t want my kindness to be taken for weakness and I’m waiting around forever for things to get sorted

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Rayqueen · 17/07/2025 03:17

I think you need to open your eyes because your so focused on her and wether you like it or not there are 2 sides to a story not just his side. Also he is not your bf he is a married man he is not divorced so another reason I would never have got involved regardless of if they do or don't live together. I happily spend 5 years on my own with first no dad involved then met my now hubby and have been very happy since but if he had been married or in a weird situationship I wouldn't have bothered because I knew what I wanted for me and my kid something solid, reliable,no drama to go with all I had worked on in those 5 years on my own

OchreRaven · 17/07/2025 09:08

It’s a very unfair situation for you and your bf. I don’t think the negative responses are because either of you are in the wrong. Sometimes the best decision is not the easy one.

If you see this relationship as having long term potential I think it is important you step back. Right now his emotional bandwidth is being maxed out with the stress of his ex and keeping things settled for his kids. He doesn’t have the energy or emotional headspace to put into building a healthy new relationship. Instead you are becoming his emotional crutch. It might feel like you are being supportive but the reality is it’s not up to you to fix or support. He needs to get counselling and work out how to navigate this situation on his own terms. There is probably another 6 to 12 months of complete turmoil while things become a new normal. What she is doing is not fair but ultimately the children with equate you with taking their father away. They get one day with their dad and you are there. Then they have their mother complaining about it. It doesn’t matter that she is doing the same thing, in their eyes you will be the problem. You may also find once this very stressful situation has passed that your bf wants a fresh start. If you are so enmeshed in the drama it’s hard for him to find that fresh start with you.

If it was me I would take a step back. I would remain friends and be sympathetic but I wouldn’t indulge in all the sordid details. I would be the light relief in his life with the understanding when he is emotionally ready I would step up and become more if we both felt the same way. I wouldn’t be there at visits with his kids. Taking a step back isn’t her winning. It’s giving your relationship a real chance of success.

Whilst that pp situation worked out well in the end she admitted how hard it was and I assume there was every chance it didn’t and not every relationship will survive hence the term ‘rebound relationship’.

And whilst I’m sure what he has told you is accurate you also need to be conscious if all your information is coming from what he has told you rather than seeing the messages / evidence there is always two sides to a story. From the information you have it seems she is keeping him around in case her affair relationship doesn’t work out. She’s probably pretty confident she could get him back as he forgave her before. Obviously with you in the picture she is panicking that he may move on. Problem is if he can’t find his own boundaries and is weak when it comes to her he could very well take her back and break your heart. You also need to protect yourself with some distance until it’s more settled.

I really hope it works out for you. He sounds like a lovely guy and I really feel for him.