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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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SpryCat · 17/07/2025 17:56

YourBrickTiger · 17/07/2025 14:38

Wow, so is that what people do when they aren't interested? Treat someone else the way he has me? What about everything else I've said about his behaviour to his kids and 2 failed marriages? Does that mean he will go on to treat someone else wonderfully? Please bear in mind that it was him that kept coming back to me...again this just highlights that I maybe wasn't good enough for him. This reads to me like he's just a normal guy. I was starting to feel a bit better, now this has made me feel sick. I know you didn't mean it that way but just 'not being interested' surely does not justify what this man has done to me. If he's this cruel to me, how can I possibly comprehend he'd be nicer to someone else?! Feel like crying now.

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I don’t think he is capable of treating anyone nicely, he likes to devalue them, his track record is poor, he’s got two ex wives, went to Thailand with stepdaughter and fucked her auntie! Made out his ex brought back another guy to their marital home, (I don’t think it true, I think he wanted sympathy). How he talks about woman and racist remarks about women from Thailand, plus his adult children have nothing to do with him. He likes to play mind games, feel superior and hurt people.

TalulaHalulah · 17/07/2025 18:51

YourBrickTiger · 17/07/2025 15:28

Omg of course it does. It means I was worthy of abuse. And that everything everyone has said here about him being unhinged and nasty etc isn't true :( Literally typing this with tears in my eyes.

Read about the cycle of abuse.
of course he is lovey dovey sometimes. It’s how he draws you in. And why you think it must be something you are doing.
The cycle of abuse is a recognised thing. No-one gets with a person they think is an abuser, they get with a person who starts off lovely and draws them in.
But you need to recognise this, because no-one on here is ruining their mental health with this man apart from you. Forget therapy, speak to someone trained in domestic abuse.

Branleuse · 17/07/2025 19:22

YourBrickTiger · 17/07/2025 16:27

But if he's a narcissist he will be abusive to someone else too??

Eventually yes.

Terrribletwos · 17/07/2025 19:28

YourBrickTiger · 17/07/2025 16:26

Thank you. From what I've seen so far though in knowing him for so long, I don't think even telling him to jog on would have made a difference to his behaviour. But this is where all my guilt comes from. I am beating myself up to the point of not wanting to live because I feel like I've ruined a relationship that I wanted by being so accomodating. He kept saying he needed patience and time and that's what I offered. If I even tried to argue back or solve a situation I got a hand put up in my face and told 'I'm not discussing it' or 'I don't want to hear it'. If I got upset, or borderline angry he would storm off. I know he has been with tougher women, but they didn't work out either.

I guess what I'm desperately desperately trying to figure out is if I had been tougher would it have made his behaviour and treatment of me different and we could have been happy? I cannot forgive myself.

No Op. If you had been tougher he would certainly still have treated you the same but maybe with a bit more physical violence.

I am not sure what you want from this. Validation that you are not wrong? Then you are not wrong. From your posts he is probably a drug addled coke head and you are well rid. Move on.

Terrribletwos · 17/07/2025 19:30

I am not sure why you are beating yourself up about a low life who, by your own account, treats women like shit.

SpryCat · 17/07/2025 19:35

I think you sound so fragile, @YourBrickTiger you need to go to your GP, tell them you are very depressed, that you need help with your MH. X

Yellowbirdcage · 18/07/2025 05:26

This man doesn’t deserve any more analysing by you or Mumsnet. Self absorbed unkind middle aged men who fetch their wives from Philippines/Thailand/wherever are a tedious cliche who should be avoided by any right thinking woman. Your job is to be come a right thinking woman. Good luck with it all.

CampCrow · 18/07/2025 05:46

OP,
You responses to people’s posts are coming across as irrational. You are obviously very emotional and upset and you aren’t thinking clearly. I think you should get professional help too. They will help you organize your thoughts and make you understand that this man hasn’t ruined you life.
You messed up by ignoring his awful behaviour and continuing in letting him treat you badly but it’s over now. Get some proper help, lick you wounds and stop agonizing over him.
Good luck

YourBrickTiger · 18/07/2025 08:57

TheAverageJoanne · 17/07/2025 17:15

I've read all the thread and genuinely don't understand when this guy has shown everyone who he is that @YourBrickTiger would think him a catch. He's failed twice as a husband, as a father, treated the OP appallingly and revealed himself as a filthy misogynistic sex pest and pervert at work, where he's been offensive about other women not just the OP. How much more evidence of terrible behaviour will be needed to convince the OP that he's just like that and nothing she can do can change him?

Thank you. It’s just as soon as I hear “he just wasn’t interested” it makes me feel the behaviour was normal for someone who isn’t interested. I don’t have much experience. That hurt. I’m the person in this and all his behaviour indicated he was very much interested. I have felt not good enough for him. That’s all I can say really. I’m completely broken because of this and don’t see a way out. I’m sorry everyone.

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Heartbrokenanddevastated · 18/07/2025 09:18

There is nothing normal about this man’s behaviour. I am gobsmacked at how much shitty sex pest type behaviour he’s got away with in a workplace. It’s not you OP, it’s him. Nothing you could do would make him a nice guy who would treat anyone with respect. I genuinely think if HR haven’t helped you should find a new job. That’s your way out. Along with supportive counselling for your self esteem.

TheAverageJoanne · 18/07/2025 09:20

What sort of industry do you work in @YourBrickTiger ?

YourBrickTiger · 18/07/2025 09:53

TheAverageJoanne · 18/07/2025 09:20

What sort of industry do you work in @YourBrickTiger ?

Will pm you.

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hdksolxveu · 18/07/2025 09:57

Please go to therapy. He’s a nutter. You need to think about why you go for abusive men.

Bittenonce · 18/07/2025 10:19

I think it’s not about ‘going for abusive men’ - I think @YourBrickTiger is a really decent person, but she struggles to understand people who are not, so she’s assuming the problem is with her. Actually the problem is her realising that a lot of people are fundamentally not good. And this guy is off the scale…..

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 18/07/2025 10:22

Even as a stranger, it is awful reading OP’s words about herself. That she feels her life has been reduced to not feeling good enough for an abusive predator.
I don’t think any of us can offer words of real comfort and I only wish OP could know there is life on the other side of abuse.
We all deserve to love and be loved. We all deserve to be treated with care and respect.
I think getting a new job would be absolutely the best thing OP could do. Even without this hideous man, it’s a cesspit.
And somewhere this man has children who have no father. If a man can abandon his own children, he doesn’t care about anybody but himself.
As a kind, empathic person it’s hard to understand why someone would abuse that kindness. When they show any interest, we think it’s genuine. But these men don’t have normal, human feelings. They don’t experience empathy, or care, or conscience. Their only care is feeding a need for attention, and they don’t care who they hurt to get it, and they don’t care who they leave to find it elsewhere, even their own children.
If only OP could know that there really is life to lead on the other side, that other women have been through this, and are now thriving.
It is possible.

YourBrickTiger · 18/07/2025 12:09

Thank you for sticking with me. I do admit I have no idea why I remain attracted to him with such deep feelings. Until I spoke to you, I have believed fully that -

Because I see him as handsome, I didn’t fit the bill because I’ve gained weight since my Mum died. And obviously during this awful experience too. I thought I had to be a certain petite size, have a certain look, be perfectly manicured all the time and not show any hint of imperfection even aging.

I believed this happened to me because I wear my heart on my sleeve and at my age saw no reason to play stupid games. I’m not 13 although sometimes I feel my brain is. I’ve been around so much death that I took a chance as we live once.

I now believe being kind and loving gets you nowhere and it may be much better to be a complete and total bitch. I have principles maybe it’s time to just ditch the lot and be a total skanky chav and it might get me further. Maybe men don’t want classy women.

I believe I’m annoying. I smile a lot, try my absolute best for people even at the expense of myself and try to help people in need and those who are down. Maybe that’s not a good quality either.

On one occasion when he yelled at me, I sat in my car for ages as it’s a safe space. He found out about it and used it against me in the meeting, even though months earlier when we were happy he told me he was really proud of how far I had come and that I had really coped well with losing my Mum. He also found out through something private that I had left open on my computer that I was very depressed and that period of time since we split - I had had difficulty eating sleeping and getting washed. I stupidly left one of these forums open on my work computer and he saw it. When in the meeting he brought it up in front of my boss - what’s this about you not washing etc? It was humiliating.

So from him doing this I’ve felt I’m not allowed to express my feelings. It felt as though absolutely everything I did was used in evidence against me at some point later on. (The page I was reading had been recommended to me by a women’s shelter). But because he didn’t understand the despair I was in, I felt that that was all wrong too, to ask for help.

Anytime I tried to address the promises he had made or the fact that he had said we had a future, he would look at me like I was crazy and give answers like ‘I was coked up. Don’t get me wrong - your pictures were nice to have a wank over…’

So I believe now that that’s all I’m good for. And that to be with me, a man would have to be on drugs. I wasn’t aware he was ‘coked up’ and I had heard him say so many times ‘look I was just drunk’, to later deny that he wasn’t, that it became very hard to know what was true and what wasn’t.

In short I just feel finished and am really afraid for my future because of what has happened. I know I should have stopped it sooner, but I really really trusted him. He knew that I hadn’t had a boyfriend in over 10 years and that meant I hadn’t been sexually active either at all. I trusted him with my life and my body too. I don’t know if his language is normal - he would say things to me like ‘I bet you’re really tight up there’ and he was very rough. I dont necessarily mind that but I don’t know either if it’s normal to be left covered in bruises. He penetrated me anally as well and although we hadn’t talked about it, it happened and I wasn’t expecting it. He said he didn’t know how he had done it. Sorry that’s embarrassing for me.

As it stands I just don’t think I’m loveable or good looking enough to ever have what other people have. It’s like I have something not quite right about me - some magical secret ingredient that makes a man want to stay. I’m not sure getting a new job would help. My issues would follow me.

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AnonAnonmystery · 18/07/2025 12:15

I’m so sorry that his abuse was sexual as well :( my partner is a giant compared to me and I can assure you I’m never covered in bruises. I sometimes like my sex a bit rough but still, never any bruises. What nonsense he said he didn’t know he had penetrated you anally!

It looks like he’s had a campaign at work to belittle you and embarrass you. Honestly this man is scum and you may not feel it now, but you are luckily the relationship ended.

ArsenicAlice · 18/07/2025 12:18

@YourBrickTiger What examples of good, decent men do you know? I don't necessarily mean past romantic partners but neighbours, any colleagues, friends' partners etc? I've had some abusive partners and got rid of them all, and stayed single for a good few years. But I have some very good, decent male friends, work colleagues - who treat me as an absolute equal, I have never heard sex-related innuendo at my work - and neighbours. It would help you see that your ex is a very very bad example.

MNpenisadvisor · 18/07/2025 12:30

I have principles maybe it’s time to just ditch the lot and be a total skanky chav and it might get me further. Maybe men don’t want classy women.

......really op??

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 18/07/2025 12:51

So he’s also a rapist.
My story is very different to yours but I do know when we lose someone we love, and go into such a deep space of grief, we accept behaviours that are unacceptable.
And all the drama and push and pull of an abusive relationship becomes almost like a painful obsession to mask what we are really feeling - and that is grief.
You need to feel it, process and get help with it.
I have had two previous partners tell me they could only have sex with me whilst drugged out of their minds. Lovely. And both times it hurt and for a while, defined me. But then I realised they were both just drugged-up abusers. And drugged up abusers, just like alcoholics, are nasty when they are high.
They are poor of spirit.
Don’t think your life is over without a man, and don’t think you have to turn nasty to be with one.
It took me a long time, and I did get trauma therapy, but I met someone kind who recommended the kindness in me. There are decent men out there but when you are vulnerable you attract wolves.
Your lovely parents would be heartbroken to know their daughter has been abused and left so low.
You have a life. But you need to meet yourself first, and get to know yourself, and make some friends, and learn how to do simple things and start small.
Oh and lots of rapists and mass murderers are handsome. Means sod all in the end.
Edited to add: get a new job. That place where you are now is rancid.

YourBrickTiger · 18/07/2025 13:36

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 18/07/2025 12:51

So he’s also a rapist.
My story is very different to yours but I do know when we lose someone we love, and go into such a deep space of grief, we accept behaviours that are unacceptable.
And all the drama and push and pull of an abusive relationship becomes almost like a painful obsession to mask what we are really feeling - and that is grief.
You need to feel it, process and get help with it.
I have had two previous partners tell me they could only have sex with me whilst drugged out of their minds. Lovely. And both times it hurt and for a while, defined me. But then I realised they were both just drugged-up abusers. And drugged up abusers, just like alcoholics, are nasty when they are high.
They are poor of spirit.
Don’t think your life is over without a man, and don’t think you have to turn nasty to be with one.
It took me a long time, and I did get trauma therapy, but I met someone kind who recommended the kindness in me. There are decent men out there but when you are vulnerable you attract wolves.
Your lovely parents would be heartbroken to know their daughter has been abused and left so low.
You have a life. But you need to meet yourself first, and get to know yourself, and make some friends, and learn how to do simple things and start small.
Oh and lots of rapists and mass murderers are handsome. Means sod all in the end.
Edited to add: get a new job. That place where you are now is rancid.

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Thank you. I don't know if I was raped or not. I didn't stop it.

Em..not doing so well today so will answer best as I can. Men in my life? None. I know that may seem hard to believe but it's true. The only decent man I've ever know died when I was 23. I mean I have uncles etc but most of them are so old now and most of my family are dead. I know men, of course I do but not well enough to be with them for any length of time that they are setting an example. So I'm very much navigating the world alone, and those who I thought were my friends seem happy to let me do that.

I think one of the things that hurts the most is that he KNEW how much I had liked him, cared about him for SUCH a long time.

When I heard about his past, and because he would regularly talk sexually not only in front of me but in front of others, the fact that he would say things like 'oh she sucked me off in front of the tv' and he also told me that the women he had been with ALL said that he had 'the nicest penis they had ever seen'.

Call me messed up, but I thought that meant he was a real catch and that I'm the one missing out.

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ArsenicAlice · 18/07/2025 13:40

@YourBrickTiger is just hurt and lashing out I think, @MNpenisadvisor. I've written my PP just before yours after reading this statement. Decent guys want decent women, I guess, this guy isn't one. @YourBrickTiger IS a decent woman, but one with weak boundaries so he exploited that. Some women won't care and will put up with this rubbish in order to have a guy, any guy so they're not on the shelf. I don't mean the OP in this btw. Just talking generally.

OP needs to work on boundaries and self esteem. The freedom programme is a start, as is baggage reclaim for reading before starting any programme. The FP will help build your own trust in your perceptions and help get rid of incorrect thinking (about deserving abuse etc) - really recommend it. It also helps understand the link between loss of self esteem and falling prey to abusers.

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ArsenicAlice · 18/07/2025 13:43

No you are not missing out trust me!

I think one of the things that hurts the most is that he KNEW how much I had liked him, cared about him for SUCH a long time.

Yes, and he took advantage of that. Not a nice guy.

HoppingPavlova · 18/07/2025 14:43

the fact that he would say things like 'oh she sucked me off in front of the tv' and he also told me that the women he had been with ALL said that he had 'the nicest penis they had ever seen'. Call me messed up, but I thought that meant he was a real catch and that I'm the one missing out.

The thing is, you do really know that it is messed up.

In no universe is anyone missing out on a man that says any of the things you have written, inclusive of him being ‘sucked off in front of the tv’, or telling his workplace he has ‘the nicest penis women have ever seen’. In fact, every normal woman would immediately put a pervert alert on this behaviour and give the guy an enormous swerve.

Fun fact, any man who does have a ‘nice penis’ doesn’t feel the need to tell anybody, let alone his workplace. And any normal decent man does not talk about this, or any of the other revolting things that have come out of his mouth, full stop. Because it’s extremely inappropriate and the opposite of attractive.

As for your claim there is no point changing workplaces, as your issues will follow you. Hopefully you will get the therapy and help you need to prevent that, and irrespective the very confounding, inappropriate workplace behaviour you detail won’t be at a new workplace. Although, you will also need to make changes. Surfing forums so everyone can see your detailed, personal forum posts on the screen of your work computer (seemingly left unattended without the screen being locked) is not acceptable, that’s stuff you do at home in your own time. Nor is kissing colleagues in the workplace appropriate or accepted anywhere else. It’s really best you get another job and leave.

ArsenicAlice · 18/07/2025 14:56

telling his workplace he has ‘the nicest penis women have ever seen’.

That amounts to sexual harassment in the workplace on its own, I would think, never mind all the other things he's done and said at work.

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