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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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YourBrickTiger · 20/08/2025 16:28

ArsenicAlice · 20/08/2025 16:07

I would seek help from the union. There is no time limit or strict cut off time in law. You can ask your company to investigate his behaviour formally, especially if he's still there and is clearly posing a risk to others because of his filthy comments.

You have good reasons for the delay anyway, trauma, fear of retaliation, bereavement, having therapy, coping with all of this - these are all valid explanations. The impact of all this has been ongoing and any delay in reporting has been caused by trauma fear and circumstances.

The union will also help you frame it as ongoing impact, rather than a single historic complaint. You are still suffering from this, he is still working there. You've got evidence of him gaslighting you and turning it around on you being the bad guy not him. The things he said are pathetic "she touched my arm" and framing that as harassment.

Thank you so much @ArsenicAlice for taking the time to explain this. Sometimes lately I feel like screaming at him when he asks if I'm ok. 'No I'm NOT ok, but it must be really nice for people like you who just cause carnage everywhere they go and others are left to pick up the pieces!!!'

Do you think this is why his marriages ended? Similar behaviour?

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Wadadli · 20/08/2025 16:46

YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:38

Damn I knew I'd leave something out. I meant to add that if someone does treat me badly does that mean I deserve it? Am not good enough? Thank you for your advice and kind reply.

You deserve NONE of it. This bloke is a manipulative prick and has treated you abominably. He will keep treating you badly if you don’t make a clean break. Steer well clear and if you can get a transfer, do it.

Look after yourself OP 💐

Itsalittlewetout · 20/08/2025 16:48

YourBrickTiger · 20/08/2025 16:28

Thank you so much @ArsenicAlice for taking the time to explain this. Sometimes lately I feel like screaming at him when he asks if I'm ok. 'No I'm NOT ok, but it must be really nice for people like you who just cause carnage everywhere they go and others are left to pick up the pieces!!!'

Do you think this is why his marriages ended? Similar behaviour?

Yes this is why, no one can keep the mask up all the time. Underneath he’s a prick and most people eventually like yourself see the real man.

LikeStrawberriesAndCream · 20/08/2025 19:49

I think that's exactly why his marriages broke up & his children no longer speak to him - because he's a nasty, abusive bastard.

Why did he do that? The same reason anyone abuses someone - a feeling of power, anger, control, to feel superior, any number of reasons... maybe the same reason a man kicks his dog when he's angry, even though not he's angry at the dog & the dog is a loyal pet.

The man you fell in love with doesn't exist - it was a mask he puts on & takes off at will. The man who took advantage of your love for him, abused you, humiliated you at work, raped you, left you with bruises - the man who work gave a "sex offender" nickname to (that should tell you everything you need to know!) - that's the real man.

You may never understand why he did this to you - you may have to process your experience and heal over time, preferably with a therapist, and just accept that this man was and is nasty, and that's why he did it - but that his treatment of you is not what determines your worth as a human being. It will take time, because for so long you have internalised & blamed yourself for his treatment of you.

I know people have mentioned journalling & similar - I'm going to suggest two things that my therapist has suggested to me while I've been going through both the loss of my mother, & a v messy divorce over the last 2 years. (In 2023 I lost my beloved mother & then my husband changed almost overnight from the man I loved into a cruel, callous person who appears to despise me, and left.)

  1. A letter to him - that you will never send - of everything you would like to say to him. Just write all your feelings down without thinking too much about it. Re-read it. Then burn it. It can be really therapeutic.
  2. Write down an account of everything that has happened with him - from beginning to end. Write it like a novel if you like - you clearly have a talent for writing. In forming the words and sentences you write, getting your experiences down in writing, you will begin to process the abuse.

You sound a very caring and loving person - please lavish some of this love & care on yourself! And your lovely pets of course. Concentrate on doing the things you like doing - nice food, good movies etc. Healthy food if you want to lose weight - I had gained weight too, and am in the process of losing it - halfway to goal now! It does feel good. But do it for you, not anyone else.
Good luck and if you see him again, say "I'm fine thanks" and walk off, head held high. If he tries to engage further, cut him off - sorry, but you're very very busy...

YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 08:58

LikeStrawberriesAndCream · 20/08/2025 19:49

I think that's exactly why his marriages broke up & his children no longer speak to him - because he's a nasty, abusive bastard.

Why did he do that? The same reason anyone abuses someone - a feeling of power, anger, control, to feel superior, any number of reasons... maybe the same reason a man kicks his dog when he's angry, even though not he's angry at the dog & the dog is a loyal pet.

The man you fell in love with doesn't exist - it was a mask he puts on & takes off at will. The man who took advantage of your love for him, abused you, humiliated you at work, raped you, left you with bruises - the man who work gave a "sex offender" nickname to (that should tell you everything you need to know!) - that's the real man.

You may never understand why he did this to you - you may have to process your experience and heal over time, preferably with a therapist, and just accept that this man was and is nasty, and that's why he did it - but that his treatment of you is not what determines your worth as a human being. It will take time, because for so long you have internalised & blamed yourself for his treatment of you.

I know people have mentioned journalling & similar - I'm going to suggest two things that my therapist has suggested to me while I've been going through both the loss of my mother, & a v messy divorce over the last 2 years. (In 2023 I lost my beloved mother & then my husband changed almost overnight from the man I loved into a cruel, callous person who appears to despise me, and left.)

  1. A letter to him - that you will never send - of everything you would like to say to him. Just write all your feelings down without thinking too much about it. Re-read it. Then burn it. It can be really therapeutic.
  2. Write down an account of everything that has happened with him - from beginning to end. Write it like a novel if you like - you clearly have a talent for writing. In forming the words and sentences you write, getting your experiences down in writing, you will begin to process the abuse.

You sound a very caring and loving person - please lavish some of this love & care on yourself! And your lovely pets of course. Concentrate on doing the things you like doing - nice food, good movies etc. Healthy food if you want to lose weight - I had gained weight too, and am in the process of losing it - halfway to goal now! It does feel good. But do it for you, not anyone else.
Good luck and if you see him again, say "I'm fine thanks" and walk off, head held high. If he tries to engage further, cut him off - sorry, but you're very very busy...

Thank you. Why can't I send the letter? I always wonder about this. I would want to send it. Although I did attempt to give him a letter once, a nice letter, then when I asked for it back because of his attitude he said 'I wasn't going to read it anyway'.

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Bittenonce · 21/08/2025 09:05

No, don’t send it. It would just be another tool he could use to make you feel bad, the less contact you have - the better. It’s just about writing it to get it all out of your system, then destroying it to try to help you let those feelings go. Hoping you have a positive session with your therapist today x

Itsalittlewetout · 21/08/2025 09:17

It would be the same as handing the person with the gun some bullets. That letter is a loaded weapon! He’s a baddie, but has been sold as a goodie.

LikeStrawberriesAndCream · 21/08/2025 09:20

@YourBrickTiger You don't send the letter because you must not ever contact this man again in any way (beyond a polite "I'm good, thanks" if you bump into him at work.)

The letter is for you to get your feelings out & work through them - not for him.

Ohnobackagain · 21/08/2025 09:24

@YourBrickTiger you write it for yourself, to get
everything off your chest. Then, on the odd day when you feel you might contact him, you read it and remind yourself of just how awful he is.

Eventually, when you are feeling better in yourself. you might be ready to destroy it as a final symbol of being done with him and his crap. Some people even burn the letters.

YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 09:26

Ohnobackagain · 21/08/2025 09:24

@YourBrickTiger you write it for yourself, to get
everything off your chest. Then, on the odd day when you feel you might contact him, you read it and remind yourself of just how awful he is.

Eventually, when you are feeling better in yourself. you might be ready to destroy it as a final symbol of being done with him and his crap. Some people even burn the letters.

Thanks guys.

I'm talking years down the line here but I would love to let his sister know that after we were supposed to meet, he pulled the rug. I don't want her thinking I hurt him because I never would!

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TheAverageJoanne · 21/08/2025 09:29

His sister doubtless knows what he's like already. I really wouldn't go there. It's keeping you enmeshed.

TheAverageJoanne · 21/08/2025 09:30

YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 08:58

Thank you. Why can't I send the letter? I always wonder about this. I would want to send it. Although I did attempt to give him a letter once, a nice letter, then when I asked for it back because of his attitude he said 'I wasn't going to read it anyway'.

Christ no don't communicate with him. You're giving him ammo to report you at work for harassment all over again!

Itsalittlewetout · 21/08/2025 09:33

All relationships connected to this man will be toxic. Don’t try and prove anything to anyone one way or another. He won’t have a single authentic relationship with anyone. Stay away from anyone connected to him.

YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 10:07

TheAverageJoanne · 21/08/2025 09:29

His sister doubtless knows what he's like already. I really wouldn't go there. It's keeping you enmeshed.

I hope so because I had a lovely conversation with her before we were due to meet, I told her that I would never hurt him and that I was open to any questions she had. She said she just wanted him to be happy and I told her that was my hope too and that I would do anything for him. Then he pulled the rug and I THINK I overheard him telling her I was 'nuts'. :(

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Itsalittlewetout · 21/08/2025 10:22

YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 10:07

I hope so because I had a lovely conversation with her before we were due to meet, I told her that I would never hurt him and that I was open to any questions she had. She said she just wanted him to be happy and I told her that was my hope too and that I would do anything for him. Then he pulled the rug and I THINK I overheard him telling her I was 'nuts'. :(

You have to become comfortable with being labeled by others and this then having no effect on your self esteem. You need to know who you are. Narcs are narcs they can’t allow a smidgen of responsibility to get in. It will always be you. It gets to a point eventually where you realise they can take no responsibility for anything and it gets boring. If people believe the label then they are not your people. Your self esteem is the roots on the tree, it needs to keep you strong in the storms. Water them, we can’t control the weather!

Sunflowers67 · 21/08/2025 10:58

Give him nothing more of you - he has had more than enough from you. No letters, no communication - personally, I wouldn't even say 'hello' if he speaks. I'd hold my head up and pretend he wasn't there!
At the moment you feel the unjustness and the unfairness of the whole situation - him, how work handled it, how other people see you and what they are believing.
Sod them all. You know the truth.

I am in the middle of what they call a 'smear campaign' at the moment. I could allow it to hurt and I did for a few moments. But now I think, 'sod you, and you and you' if you believe him. At least you get to see who has your back and who doesn't. My circle of trusted people that know me and truly care for me is very very tiny and I would not have it any other way. I don't want these 'fair weather friends' that believe his lies to be in my life in any shape or form. If that means I am alone, so be it.

I did contact my ex's two ex wives to ask how they had been with him and it was very validating to hear that he was the same nasty, vindictive, bullying man with them as he was with me. Controlling, gambling, sexual coercion, bullying - an abusive man. Both of the ex wives are very happily married now and have been for many years. And what is he doing? Oh, picking up the pieces again having not learnt from his past mistakes, not sought help for his abusive ways and yet again, blaming this lady for everything (me). And guess what he will be doing a year or two from now? The same thing. And so will your ex.

You and I on the other hand will have done the work, gone through therapy, self reflected and healed as best we can. We will still be the same caring people, able to love someone fully, able to love ourselves, able to be accountable if we do something wrong, capable of apologising to someone.

Just keep going - you have got this. You may feel weak, hopeless and not strong enough but you are. You belong to this amazing group called 'women' and we have so much strength and resilience that nothing keeps us down for long. No abusive, reptilian sack of doo-doo will beat us.🌻

YourBrickTiger · 26/08/2025 11:14

Sunflowers67 · 21/08/2025 10:58

Give him nothing more of you - he has had more than enough from you. No letters, no communication - personally, I wouldn't even say 'hello' if he speaks. I'd hold my head up and pretend he wasn't there!
At the moment you feel the unjustness and the unfairness of the whole situation - him, how work handled it, how other people see you and what they are believing.
Sod them all. You know the truth.

I am in the middle of what they call a 'smear campaign' at the moment. I could allow it to hurt and I did for a few moments. But now I think, 'sod you, and you and you' if you believe him. At least you get to see who has your back and who doesn't. My circle of trusted people that know me and truly care for me is very very tiny and I would not have it any other way. I don't want these 'fair weather friends' that believe his lies to be in my life in any shape or form. If that means I am alone, so be it.

I did contact my ex's two ex wives to ask how they had been with him and it was very validating to hear that he was the same nasty, vindictive, bullying man with them as he was with me. Controlling, gambling, sexual coercion, bullying - an abusive man. Both of the ex wives are very happily married now and have been for many years. And what is he doing? Oh, picking up the pieces again having not learnt from his past mistakes, not sought help for his abusive ways and yet again, blaming this lady for everything (me). And guess what he will be doing a year or two from now? The same thing. And so will your ex.

You and I on the other hand will have done the work, gone through therapy, self reflected and healed as best we can. We will still be the same caring people, able to love someone fully, able to love ourselves, able to be accountable if we do something wrong, capable of apologising to someone.

Just keep going - you have got this. You may feel weak, hopeless and not strong enough but you are. You belong to this amazing group called 'women' and we have so much strength and resilience that nothing keeps us down for long. No abusive, reptilian sack of doo-doo will beat us.🌻

Really sorry for what you are going through. Smear campaigns terrify me because what if other people believe them? I'm sort of comforted by you saying you contacted his exes and that they had a similar story to tell, as much as I would love him to change, it confirms they are the same with every partner, I think.

I had a good weekend and Bank Holiday. Treated myself to something nice to eat, some wine, spent time in nature and met up with an old friend. Did some DIY, watched movies, cleaned. Surprisingly he wasn't on my mind that much, just a few things.

Something I had forgotten about was when he told me that because of me, he was stuck 'in a nightmare'. Does that mean I am a nightmare? When I challenged him on it and asked 'what about what I'm going through?!' he accused me of being 'nasty'.

Also on one of our first nights together he told me about one of the asian women he'd slept with and described her breasts in detail, said she was 'contorting around' on top of him. To me this makes him sound like a real catch that everyone wants - is that the case? I think she thought they were going to have a long distance relationship but again he told her he 'didn't love her', after he returned home and she was pestering him for money. I don't know why he would tell me this, the day after we slept together, what he was trying to achieve. It really hurt.

Sorry it seems the odd random thought is still in there.

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ArsenicAlice · 26/08/2025 14:47

Something I had forgotten about was when he told me that because of me, he was stuck 'in a nightmare'. Does that mean I am a nightmare?
NO, IT MEANS HE IS GASLIGHTING YOU
When I challenged him on it and asked 'what about what I'm going through?!' he accused me of being 'nasty'.
HE'S GASLIGHTING YOU AGAIN
Also on one of our first nights together he told me about one of the asian women he'd slept with and described her breasts in detail, said she was 'contorting around' on top of him. To me this makes him sound like a real catch that everyone wants - is that the case?
I THINK YOU KNOW IT ISN'T THE CASE. HE'S A PERV
I think she thought they were going to have a long distance relationship but again he told her he 'didn't love her', after he returned home and she was pestering him for money. I don't know why he would tell me this, the day after we slept together, what he was trying to achieve. It really hurt.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU JEALOUS. HE PROBABLY MADE IT ALL UP
Sorry it seems the odd random thought is still in there.

You are doing amazing, so glad to hear about your weekend. Keep it up and keep talking, we are here for you.

Sunflowers67 · 26/08/2025 15:06

Completely agree with ArsenicAlice - I would have written the same, although not as succinctly. I know I waffle :-)
Another red flag to file away for later - no self respecting, decent human being will try and make you jealous, discuss previous conquests (real or imagined and I suspect the later).
This 'man' is way beyond vile.

Well done on the weekend. Sometimes they can be the hardest as everyone seems to be in a couple and doing couple things (they really aren't, it just looks like it). I was a bit bored if I am honest - but then I think I am still getting used to living with no dramas, high or low emotions - so I caught up on some sleep, read a book and watched a few films - whilst eating a whole bag of marshmallows and then feeling really sick and fat.

You are doing so well - just keep going.

YourBrickTiger · 26/08/2025 15:46

ArsenicAlice · 26/08/2025 14:47

Something I had forgotten about was when he told me that because of me, he was stuck 'in a nightmare'. Does that mean I am a nightmare?
NO, IT MEANS HE IS GASLIGHTING YOU
When I challenged him on it and asked 'what about what I'm going through?!' he accused me of being 'nasty'.
HE'S GASLIGHTING YOU AGAIN
Also on one of our first nights together he told me about one of the asian women he'd slept with and described her breasts in detail, said she was 'contorting around' on top of him. To me this makes him sound like a real catch that everyone wants - is that the case?
I THINK YOU KNOW IT ISN'T THE CASE. HE'S A PERV
I think she thought they were going to have a long distance relationship but again he told her he 'didn't love her', after he returned home and she was pestering him for money. I don't know why he would tell me this, the day after we slept together, what he was trying to achieve. It really hurt.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU JEALOUS. HE PROBABLY MADE IT ALL UP
Sorry it seems the odd random thought is still in there.

You are doing amazing, so glad to hear about your weekend. Keep it up and keep talking, we are here for you.

Thanks both @ArsenicAlice and @Sunflowers67 - why does someone who has me, my love and full attention, need to try to make me jealous? Especially after one of the first nights of being together?

I remembered as well - he had spent ages getting my attention, texting, ringing - he made the first move and kissed me and then when he eventually went cold and dumped me he said 'I knew it was wrong from the start'. Why? Why put me through that?

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Bittenonce · 26/08/2025 16:07

@YourBrickTiger I’m going to start getting cross with you soon! You had such a good weekend, now you’re torturing yourself again.
You keep asking why he would do these things and you turn it round in your head so you think it’s your fault: But it’s as futile as asking why Peter Sutcliffe, or Myra Hindley, or Fred West, did what they did. Any time you think of him you’ve got to think ‘I’m so glad I’m free of that now’. Be glad you’ve got your life back, it’s better than his ever was or will be. You’re better than he ever was or will be.

YourBrickTiger · 26/08/2025 16:15

Bittenonce · 26/08/2025 16:07

@YourBrickTiger I’m going to start getting cross with you soon! You had such a good weekend, now you’re torturing yourself again.
You keep asking why he would do these things and you turn it round in your head so you think it’s your fault: But it’s as futile as asking why Peter Sutcliffe, or Myra Hindley, or Fred West, did what they did. Any time you think of him you’ve got to think ‘I’m so glad I’m free of that now’. Be glad you’ve got your life back, it’s better than his ever was or will be. You’re better than he ever was or will be.

Thanks my friend but there is still SO MUCH about this I don't understand. None of the things he has said or done show me in a very favourable way...

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Terrribletwos · 26/08/2025 17:02

@YourBrickTiger is this the same guy who was heavily using coke? If so I wouldn't take anything he said as in anyway true...he was probably out of his head at the time.

HoppingPavlova · 26/08/2025 17:06

To me this makes him sound like a real catch that everyone wants - is that the case?

Nope. Not at all. You have really abnormal thought processes. To the average person, this would flag that he was an utterly revolting dick and they would get the immediate ick and give him marching orders. They would think the absolute opposite of ‘real catch’.

ArsenicAlice · 26/08/2025 17:37

HoppingPavlova · 26/08/2025 17:06

To me this makes him sound like a real catch that everyone wants - is that the case?

Nope. Not at all. You have really abnormal thought processes. To the average person, this would flag that he was an utterly revolting dick and they would get the immediate ick and give him marching orders. They would think the absolute opposite of ‘real catch’.

Edited

The only place he is a real catch is in his head. He is a total Walter Mitty, but at least Walter Mitty was harmless.

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