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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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PixiePuffBall · 23/07/2025 14:12

Bless you. Is it possible to get a new job so you don't need to be around him? It might also help with your self esteem and give you something else to focus on x

Limer · 23/07/2025 14:18

Not once did he ever orgasm with me.

That'll be down to his porn death grip.

It's one more thing that wasn't your fault.

MNpenisadvisor · 23/07/2025 14:38

You need to stop going over and over every tiny thing now. It's not healthy to keep picking at this obsession.

SpryCat · 23/07/2025 14:52

A lot older men have sexual problems, it could be due to drugs or he is only able to ejaculate with porn and wanking himself off. It was not due to you and he made out, you wanted a baby as an excuse, why he wouldn’t ejaculate. He has this ‘problem’ with all women

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 15:18

Limer · 23/07/2025 14:18

Not once did he ever orgasm with me.

That'll be down to his porn death grip.

It's one more thing that wasn't your fault.

I'm sorry I don't know what a porn death grip is?

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FestivusMiracle · 23/07/2025 15:25

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 15:18

I'm sorry I don't know what a porn death grip is?

Google it then 🤨

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 23/07/2025 15:52

Largest update: no surprises there from a man in his 50’s taking cocaine.
Going to say it one more time - it’s not you!
You are a bright woman. You are replaying these horror stories in your mind, and they are not your issue.
In fact, I’d say the reason he wanted to show off ‘semen stains’ to a young girl in his car is because they were probably from a Maccie D milkshake.
Part of the reason he’s all over the place and trying to jump on women is to cover up the fact that his bits don’t perform because of all the marching powder he’s shoved up his nose.
And you think you don’t deserve happiness because of this drug-addled loser?
Come on @YourBrickTiger it is time to get some help and move forward.

Really heartbroken
Idontjetwashthefucker · 23/07/2025 15:54

OP are you actually listening and taking in what anyone is saying as I really dont think we need anymore examples of what a complete wanker he is

ClickClickety · 23/07/2025 16:08

Sorry that this awful man happened to you, OP. You need to leave that workplace. You also need to delete his number and block him so he can't mess with your head once you've left.

Sunflowers67 · 23/07/2025 20:53

Jeez! This nasty little man has really done a number on you.
Please do not let him take anymore from you - it's time for you now.
You work in a toxic environment, you got caught up with a very toxic man and now your thoughts are all toxic too.
Time to say 'no more'.
I would get a new job - I know its easier said than done, but start applying.
Reach out to some recommended therapist in your area and get that first appointment booked.
Start writing a journal of all your thoughts and feelings.
Do one thing a day that you enjoy - just something solely for you - mine was a prawn cocktail sandwich from Waitrose, or a face pack or a cigarette and a cup of tea in the garden each morning. Find little moments of joy and start re-training your brain to love you.
Listen to some uplifting music, read a book (I couldn't concentrate so signed up for 'audible' and have someone tell me a story every evening - its very comforting and helps me sleep too.
Block him from everything - do that now.

These types of people are little maggotty worms that burrow their way into your mind and brain. You have to start the healing, only you can do that I'm afraid.
One day we may well invent the magic pill that will erase such people from our thinking, but until then, you need to start the process yourself.

Big hug.

YourBrickTiger · 24/07/2025 10:17

Sunflowers67 · 23/07/2025 20:53

Jeez! This nasty little man has really done a number on you.
Please do not let him take anymore from you - it's time for you now.
You work in a toxic environment, you got caught up with a very toxic man and now your thoughts are all toxic too.
Time to say 'no more'.
I would get a new job - I know its easier said than done, but start applying.
Reach out to some recommended therapist in your area and get that first appointment booked.
Start writing a journal of all your thoughts and feelings.
Do one thing a day that you enjoy - just something solely for you - mine was a prawn cocktail sandwich from Waitrose, or a face pack or a cigarette and a cup of tea in the garden each morning. Find little moments of joy and start re-training your brain to love you.
Listen to some uplifting music, read a book (I couldn't concentrate so signed up for 'audible' and have someone tell me a story every evening - its very comforting and helps me sleep too.
Block him from everything - do that now.

These types of people are little maggotty worms that burrow their way into your mind and brain. You have to start the healing, only you can do that I'm afraid.
One day we may well invent the magic pill that will erase such people from our thinking, but until then, you need to start the process yourself.

Big hug.

I'm very touched that you took the time to write this, thank you so much.

I think because of his actions, I'm frightened that something is wrong with me, something I'm unaware of. He would say things to me like, 'You do things and you're not even aware you're doing them' and 'that's your perception'. So what are these things that I am doing? Is that what made him like this? I know that I perhaps got a bit jealous when I would be exposed to him making comments in front of me like 'I'm looking at her breasts' etc but that did hurt and I'm not false.

Other than that and being besotted I don't think I did anything to deserve it. And he is choosing to stay in a pretty bad situation, not moving on, rather than have a relationship with someone who loves him. He told me he can't cope with my love.

Sorry I'm a bit long winded, but he blocked me on and off many times. So I don't have that option - so him blocking me has had a bad affect on me too.

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Sunflowers67 · 24/07/2025 14:17

Sod what he is doing, has done, may do.....it's about you now.
Get a new phone if need be, change your email, shut down your facebook or whatsapp.
You have to make that start for the new life, new you - the new life does not have him in it in any shape or form.

YourBrickTiger · 24/07/2025 15:36

Sunflowers67 · 24/07/2025 14:17

Sod what he is doing, has done, may do.....it's about you now.
Get a new phone if need be, change your email, shut down your facebook or whatsapp.
You have to make that start for the new life, new you - the new life does not have him in it in any shape or form.

Thank you. Did you read what I said about him blocking me though?

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FrogFrogFrog · 24/07/2025 15:42

Idontjetwashthefucker · 23/07/2025 15:54

OP are you actually listening and taking in what anyone is saying as I really dont think we need anymore examples of what a complete wanker he is

Yeah, I have to agree with this. I've been following this thread though I haven't commented. I'm really sorry you've gone through this, OP. He's 100% an abusive arsehole and none of it was your fault.

But is this thread actually helping you? At the moment, it seems like you're using it as a way to continue ruminating about him, which isn't healthy. Gently, I'd suggest that you write down all the advice you've been given, and try to act on it.

YourBrickTiger · 24/07/2025 15:53

FrogFrogFrog · 24/07/2025 15:42

Yeah, I have to agree with this. I've been following this thread though I haven't commented. I'm really sorry you've gone through this, OP. He's 100% an abusive arsehole and none of it was your fault.

But is this thread actually helping you? At the moment, it seems like you're using it as a way to continue ruminating about him, which isn't healthy. Gently, I'd suggest that you write down all the advice you've been given, and try to act on it.

It's been extremely helpful but I would ask kindly for no judgement. I have ADHD and ruminating is a huge part of it. I'm sorry if it's annoying to anyone but my mind does this. I just need to make sure I have clarification on the things that continue to bother me and am grateful for the responses.

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FrogFrogFrog · 24/07/2025 16:01

I have ADHD and OCD, so I do understand, and it's how I know that giving in to the rumination isn't helpful and actually makes it worse. It's an endless cycle, feeding on itself.

No judgement here. But you've had plenty of clarification, OP. The answers aren't going to change regardless of which new scenario with this wanker you share.

YourBrickTiger · 24/07/2025 16:15

FrogFrogFrog · 24/07/2025 16:01

I have ADHD and OCD, so I do understand, and it's how I know that giving in to the rumination isn't helpful and actually makes it worse. It's an endless cycle, feeding on itself.

No judgement here. But you've had plenty of clarification, OP. The answers aren't going to change regardless of which new scenario with this wanker you share.

Think I understand thank you! So no matter what I say, the conclusion is that he has been an abusive man?

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 24/07/2025 16:20

He is and was abusive.

SquirrelsInSpace · 24/07/2025 16:29

OP, whatever else you do, PLEASE leave this utterly toxic workplace. Absolutely nothing about the environment sounds healthy or normal. If someone at my workplace exposed themselves or made sexually predatory remarks about colleagues, they would be sacked, the police would be called, and they'd probably be banned from working in the profession ever again. That's normal. What you're describing is very very far from normal.

Edited to add, I know you say you've changed departments, but you need to get as far away from this dysfunctional organisation as possible.

Miamamio · 24/07/2025 17:28

I suggest you read up all you can about narcissism. This man is a classic narcissist.

Bittenonce · 24/07/2025 19:04

YourBrickTiger · 24/07/2025 16:15

Think I understand thank you! So no matter what I say, the conclusion is that he has been an abusive man?

I despair that even now, you’re questioning this at all. You were used and abused by a manipulative git who saw your trust and basic niceness as weaknesses he could, and did, take advantage of. Unless and until you can see this clearly without any doubt or self-blame, you cannot let yourself trust anyone, as I fear the same may happen again. You’re clearly such a sweet person, but you must learn to see that there are actually few people who share your natural good nature, who can see only see the good in others and blame themselves when the fault belongs elsewhere. Toughen up babe, find your inner strength, don’t ever take this shit again.

TheAverageJoanne · 25/07/2025 08:52

There's really only one thing to understand @YourBrickTiger.

It's not you, it's him. He's a nasty piece of work. That's his nature, he doesn't turn it on and off depending on whether someone deserves abuse or not. He's hardwired to be like that.

You need to talk to a professional and work on your own self esteem and self care and think about your good qualities.

GwendolineFairfax8 · 25/07/2025 09:45

OP - do you have house contents insurance with added legal expenses cover? If so, it will enable you to see a solicitor about a claim against your employer for allowing this hideous work environment to continue.

Others have said just get a new job. You seem in no fit state to do that (yet). See your GP about getting on the therapy waiting list - talking about it might really help and it will get this recorded. Friends in everyday life would not be equipped to deal with this toxicity - and I mean that kindly as when you are entrenched it is all consuming and they will have their own issues going on in the background.

You are clearly vulnerable and struggling and an employer has a legal and moral duty of care to create a safe working environment. If this is all true (and as strangers on the internet you must accept that it is so horrendous we might question it), create a timeline of events and take it to an employment lawyer if you have legal cover or to Citizens Advice if you don’t.

SpryCat · 25/07/2025 12:28

I think going to your GP telling him you are struggling, you had an abusive man last year and you are having intrusive thoughts and depression since and asking to be referred to a therapist is best.

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