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Making peace with family (inlaws) who dislike you

82 replies

Burntout2025 · 12/07/2025 06:11

We live overseas from family. All extended family on both sides live in the same city.

When we visit, we stay with PILs because they have space (multiple spare rooms) and they invite us, and DH adores them, and they adore him. We also visit SIL's family, as part of the deal. We don't stay with my family as none of them have any spare space. We don't stay in an AirBnB because DH's parents insist we stay with them.

I find all this quite difficult because PILs and SIL & family all dislike me and 8yo DS, and are clearly ashamed of DS - who has AuDHD. They resent me for having brought shame on their gifted high-achieving family, by having a child who was diagnosed with special needs at age 2. That DS is also highly academic and recognizably very musically gifted is never mentioned by any of the inlaws (the reason I mention this is that they very highly value academics and music... and constantly talk about other grandchildren's academic and musical exploits).

When we visit PILs there are rules in place like DS and I having to be out of the house if any of their friends come round; "family catch-ups" with PILs' friends only being allowed to involve DH, never DS and me. DS and I having to buy and cook our own food, and eat at different times from everyone else so that we don't disturb the "adults". MIL cooks lavish multi-course meals for DH, she and FIL, the conversation flows for hours. DS and I prepare toast or sandwiches as quickly as possible, then have to eat in silence while FIL sits at the table reading the newspaper, huffing and puffing and rolling his eyes if any noise at all is made. DS's and my clothes are taken off the clothesline and dumped on the ground wet if we go out anywhere having left wet washing on the line. DH's clothes are allowed to dry. DH gets a spare ensuite bedroom to himself (double bed, quilts, pillows galore, desk...). DS and I get a different one with camp bed stretcher things, only one blanket each, and FIL chooses our bathroom to use (and doesn't clean the toilet after) despite having his own bathroom in another part of the house. He talks loudly about it being HIS HOUSE so he can do what he likes, shoehorning this into every possible conversation. Etc.

At SIL's DS and I are ignored, treated as though we don't exist for most of the visit; DS is told to eat in front of the TV in another room, I am allowed to eat at the table but don't get to join in any conversations. MIL loudly says she feels embarrassed and sorry for the other grandchildren "having to entertain" DS - to the extent they take this as a cue to ignore him. When DS was small there were many lunches at SIL's where DS and I were told to go sit in the car while he napped, and neither of us got any food at all.

So far, so "well fuck this for a game of soldiers, I'm not visiting them again".

Then there's DH. Who adores his parents, whose parents adore him. He can't for the life of him observe what it's like when we visit his family. The rest of the year he is an attentive, supportive husband and parent, intelligent and likeable. We depend on him, too. So I'm not going to divorce him over this.

The question is, how the hell do we make peace with this situation?

Would it be totally awful of me to prime filter-lacking 8yo AuDHD DS with a few choice observations of how bloody rude they're all being? I think that'd come down on DS though.

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The2ndone · 12/07/2025 06:25

Really OP?

you stay with family that are “ashamed” and “dislike” you and your young son?

unless you’re in line for a whopping inheritance, why?

The2ndone · 12/07/2025 06:27

You are utterly failing your son by allowing this abuse of him in plain sight of you

your dh? I mean, no words

EvelynSalt · 12/07/2025 06:31

With kindness, you sound like Cinderella being locked away and trodden on by the evil stepmother, please please don’t put up with this absolute shower of shit for another second! Please find your inner strength and protect your wonderful son.

On to the ILs in a moment but, to be very Mumsnet about it, you have a DH problem. A massive one. This treatment is abominable and he is in on it. Your poor DS! He is learning - from those supposed to be closest to him - that he is less than others, his achievements don’t matter and he should be hidden away. His father has absolutely failed him, regardless of being a nice guy the rest of the time.

And the ILs. They sound absolutely nuts, with a great big thick streak of cruelty running right through them. Please, draw a line under this. Don’t allow yourself or your son to ever, ever be persuaded to see them again. They sound frankly unhinged…Dickensian levels of terrible behaviour in your OP!

If you think DH will refuse you could always make it easy on yourself by telling them all exactly what contemptible arseholes they are, really let loose. To the extent that they decide you’re not invited back.

chatgptsbestmate · 12/07/2025 06:34

Never ever ever stay with these vile people again

What are you THINKING by allowing this to happen? Stay away from these horrible people

PopThatBench · 12/07/2025 06:35

Make peace with them?
Fuck that, and fuck your shitty husband, what a poor excuse for a father.
He adores his family? You and his son are his family and you’re being treated like vermin in front of him and he’s saying “I adore these people”?!
I wouldn’t be setting foot in their house or line of sight ever again.
Your poor son.

heroinechic · 12/07/2025 06:37

I don’t comprehend how your DH doesn’t see this. What does he say when you ask why you and DS can’t have tea with the family? What does he say when you ask why your wet clothes have been dumped on the floor while his haven’t? Why don’t you all stay in the same bedroom?

I wouldn’t step foot in their house again. Next time, you stay in an Air BnB and you meet his family for a meal outside the house in a restaurant where you can all sit together, or you don’t see them at all.

Why would you put your child through this? They do not deserve to be treated like this! Neither do you obviously, but you can see them for what they are.

sesquipedalian · 12/07/2025 06:40

“there are rules in place like DS and I having to be out of the house if any of their friends come round; "family catch-ups" with PILs' friends only being allowed to involve DH, never DS and me”

And your DH truly doesn’t notice this? And you haven’t pointed this out when it’s happening? OP, why do you put up with it? Why don’t you let DH visit his toxic parents by himself, while you and DS stay in an Airbnb and visit your family? You’re banished to a separate (uncomfortable) bedroom; made to eat separately; your washing is taken from the line; you can’t even eat with the family - what on earth is in this for you, and how on earth can DH not see this? If you’re ignored at SILs, why do you go round there, rather than going out for the day to your own family, or just to do something that you and DS enjoy? Apart from anything else, I wouldn’t let anyone treat my DC like this, as though you and he are Cinderella and son, with SIL as the ugly sister and in-laws as the wicked stepmother and father. You say DH just doesn’t see the situation - well just how obtuse is he? Sorry, OP, this is insufferable, so either come and see your own family and stay elsewhere, or let DH visit alone while you stay at home. No way would I allow my DC and myself to be treated like this - it’s utterly unreasonable.

Mindymomo · 12/07/2025 06:40

No way would I stay with either family members if this is the way you are treated and cannot see why your DH would let this happen, it’s disgusting and no point you and your DS staying there. What example are they setting your DS treating him that way. I don’t think I could forgive them for this behaviour, I would rather them not be in our life.

Doidontimmm · 12/07/2025 06:41

This cannot be real

AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/07/2025 06:42

You do not and should not make peace with these people. You should have gone nuclear on them all long before now and from that you have no contact with his side of the family. Who is protecting your son here from their abuses because it’s certainly not his father either. This is happening right in front of your very eyes.

And you should consider divorce when it comes to DH as well. He’s seen how his parents and sister act towards you and his son and he does not want to get involved. He’s likely mired in fear obligation and guilt.

Where do his loyalties lie- with you or his abusive parents?.

SparklyGlitterballs · 12/07/2025 06:51

If this is real then I'd be sitting your DH down and telling him quite clearly that you will not be staying with PIL ever again due to the way they treat you and DS and because he doesn't advocate for you or have your backs. Fuck this "they insist we stay with them". Alternatively let him go and stay with his beloved parents and you and DS stay in an Airbnb by yourselves and don't visit with his DPs/SIL at all.

Winglessvulture · 12/07/2025 06:51

You have a husband problem.

There is absolutely no way I would be going, or subjecting my child to this. He is welcome to go on his own, but I would be telling him that neither of you would be accompanying him because you are both treated so poorly.

Lafufufu · 12/07/2025 06:55

Where is your DH in all this? Doesn't your DH "adore" you and his child?
If so why is he allowing this

This is so weird and far fetched it barely sounds real.

Also Why dont YOU make a few choices observations to your DH?

The last thing id be doing is darghing my child into this and using them as a puppet.
you have loads of options: just book an Airbnb for you and your son near your family. let him see his family who he 'adores" for the week and you & DS spend the week with people who dont actively dislike you...dh can pop over for a play date with you both like the child he is.

What would happen if the next time say 'thanks for our rooms' and put your stuff in the nice double too. Or if someone needs to sleep with your DS say "DH can you sleep in there ill take the double and share with DS?"

Or say 'no i dont fancy going out. i think we will stay in. it would be nice to meet X?"
Or just ask them to explain why do we need to go out.

Very honestly your first port of call should be a conversation with your DH

Pollqueen · 12/07/2025 06:56

If this is real, which I very much doubt because nobody would be stupid enough to keep revisiting, then you are doing a huge disservice to your son.

Seeing as your husband appears to be deaf and blind, you should be protecting your son, not subjecting him to such treatment from his family. Poor kid

curious79 · 12/07/2025 07:13

Wow I’ve never heard of someone being treated so appallingly and a so-called loving husband sitting back and watching it happen.

Personally this would call my marriage into question. I would also be calling them out on it too.

let your DH visit alone - why subject yourself to this demeaning treatment. Don’t go!!!

Burntout2025 · 12/07/2025 07:27

OK, I'd forgotten (having not been on Mumsnet for quite a while) how strong the responses can be. Ooof.

DH is undoubtedly mired in FOG. He has all sorts of trauma-related responses to his father, who is an unbelievably entitled, arrogant, misogynistic, ableist, up-himself arse.

It's always been framed as us humouring their quirks. We didn't visit from early 2020 until late last year, so the unpleasantness related to shame about DS has kind of hit out of the blue on the last two visits. The first one recently i thought I'd misheard or misunderstood a lot of stuff. The second one most recently, I realised I hadn't misheard anything.

But DH is just flailing and trying to brush it away. He shuts down and eventually cries (by himself) whenever i try to bring this stuff up, just as he used to before 2020 when I tried to discuss how rude SIL was being. It'll take a lot of unravelling for him to sort this one out, and that probably won't happen until his elderly parents shuffle off the mortal coil.

I'll look into alternative accommodation.

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PermanentTemporary · 12/07/2025 07:36

Alternative accommodation sounds like a plan.

Going to see your family with your children sounds like a plan.

Have a look round for members of dh’s wider family who are similarly excluded, not good enough. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there are some. Make connections with them for the entertainment value of a few ripe stories about your FIL and a bit of solidarity.

Id also write down things that happened on your trips. Not as a dossier of evidence to slap on the table, but to keep for your own mental balance, to remind you why you are telling Dh that you are off to see your family and people who appreciate you and your children.

Burntout2025 · 12/07/2025 07:57

PermanentTemporary · 12/07/2025 07:36

Alternative accommodation sounds like a plan.

Going to see your family with your children sounds like a plan.

Have a look round for members of dh’s wider family who are similarly excluded, not good enough. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there are some. Make connections with them for the entertainment value of a few ripe stories about your FIL and a bit of solidarity.

Id also write down things that happened on your trips. Not as a dossier of evidence to slap on the table, but to keep for your own mental balance, to remind you why you are telling Dh that you are off to see your family and people who appreciate you and your children.

Oh yes - one of the reasons FIL despises me is because I stood up for another family member once. He was slagging his niece off, I gave him all the reasons what he was saying was unacceptable. He was absolutely dumbfounded that someone would tell him he was wrong.

I very much enjoyed catching up with said niece, her kid (who PIL think should never have been born) and her parents on the most recent visit - they're all lovely! Think we might need another intercity trip for a catch-up while we're over next time...

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PermanentTemporary · 12/07/2025 08:02

Ah yes! The alphas can’t be alphas if there aren’t any betas or gammas. So they create them. Hope you can find somewhere to stay for a solid base. I think I’d just laugh if Dh asked me why I wasn’t happy to stay on a camp bed in the rejects’ area.

SapphOhNo · 12/07/2025 08:07

They sound awful and your DH deep down knows it. He's not protecting you or DS.

You have a DH problem.

KimHwn · 12/07/2025 08:09

I know MN can be a bit extreme in responses OP, but really, the replies you're getting are very measured.
I get that your husband is usually lovely and supportive, and is enmeshed with these awful people etc. But you really are absolving him of his responsibilities here. There is no way he can't see how bad this is. His parents are literally serving him food and not giving any to you and your child! That's so clearly cruel and unkind.

It's up to you if you put up with him enabling this treatment of you. But your son? No. Your husband is choosing to let him down, allowing him to be treated badly. He is complicit in what sounds like the bullying of his own child.

Is it complicated between your H and his family? Yes, of course. But that's not a get-out clause. It doesn't make it okay.

saraclara · 12/07/2025 08:13

Hang on. Do you not share a bedroom with your DH at home?
Why does he think it okay for you to be banished to a camp bed?
Why does he think it okay for you and his son not to be fed by his family?
Why does he think it okay for you both to be banished when a visitor arrives?

What did he say when you ask him these questions?

chatgptsbestmate · 12/07/2025 08:13

Burntout2025 · 12/07/2025 07:27

OK, I'd forgotten (having not been on Mumsnet for quite a while) how strong the responses can be. Ooof.

DH is undoubtedly mired in FOG. He has all sorts of trauma-related responses to his father, who is an unbelievably entitled, arrogant, misogynistic, ableist, up-himself arse.

It's always been framed as us humouring their quirks. We didn't visit from early 2020 until late last year, so the unpleasantness related to shame about DS has kind of hit out of the blue on the last two visits. The first one recently i thought I'd misheard or misunderstood a lot of stuff. The second one most recently, I realised I hadn't misheard anything.

But DH is just flailing and trying to brush it away. He shuts down and eventually cries (by himself) whenever i try to bring this stuff up, just as he used to before 2020 when I tried to discuss how rude SIL was being. It'll take a lot of unravelling for him to sort this one out, and that probably won't happen until his elderly parents shuffle off the mortal coil.

I'll look into alternative accommodation.

I was in a LTR for a while where his Mother came first. Every. Single. Time. We didn't have kids together, thank fuck. He was so enmeshed with his Mum that I started to get the ick about it. She hated me (of course)

Eventually the relationship ended. The relief because I never had to look at him again with big ick in my heart.....this was wonderful and joyous 🙂

squashyhat · 12/07/2025 08:22

I have been around Mumsnet for many years and this is one of the saddest threads I have ever seen. OP why aren't you FURIOUS with their behaviour? It is absolutely despicable. Please don't subject your son to it any more. This will impact him for the rest of his life.

xWildFlowerx · 12/07/2025 08:29

Me and my child would never have gone to see these cunts again after the first time something like this happened, that's for sure.

The worst part of all this by far is your husband. Who the fuck actually sits there having 5 course meals while his wife and child are forced to make toast and then get banished away somewhere? Who actually accepts an ensuite room and is fine with his wife and child sleeping on a shitty camp bed? If my husband acted like this I'd be getting divorced cause I could never love or respect someone who allows this treatment of me and our child.