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Coping when husband is ranting

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AnOverwhelmedMum · 17/06/2025 00:17

Hi it’s my first time posting here. Would really appreciate it if anybody can relate to either side of my story or can offer any advice or insight.

We’re in our thirties and we’ve been married for 10 years. We’ve 3 young kids and married life is hitting hard. We’re quite opposite in personalities and that is seeping into lot of arguments. Funnily enough, it was the differences that drew me to him when I met him. But now almost everyday I regret marrying him and wish instead that I had met someone more like me, calmer and more rational.

He has a ton of great qualities and he’s a great dad. But the one thing that I struggle with him is his anger. He can get angry over little things - like if I ran the tap too much, or scuffed the paintwork, or cook something wrong, or didn’t dress right etc etc.

In the early days of the marriage, I used to listen and used to think that I just had to do it his way to make him happy. Over time, I’m growing tired of his silly insistences and would try to explain or rationalise my actions - and boom, that leads to anger and arguments. He is completely unable to handle a disagreement in a calm or civil manner. He feels like he’s being challenged and refuses to listen to a different view point or ever agree that I am allowed to have a different opinion than him. I find that the more I try and argue back or defend myself, the worse the argument gets. He shouts louder, he starts swearing everything under the sun, even words I don’t know the meaning of, and just insults and rants.. frankly he’s just quite vile when he gets into that. It’s almost like he has to get all anger out and he goes back to his usual self again much later. The only way to instantly calm him down is to accept that I made a mistake and apologise (even when nothing was ever my fault). Even when he’s finally calm, he’s very preachy, and I just nod and accept whatever he says just to avoid a repeat of the whole thing.

It’s downright awful to be on the receiving end of being scolded and shouted at, and I don’t communicate well in the best of circumstances. I tend to clam up and try and weather it, but that provokes him even more and he says that I don’t say anything. I keep telling him that what he’s doing is not a conversation and I can’t talk to him if he’s not calm. But it just doesn’t get through to him in that moment. Sometimes, I get so overwhelmed and angry that I argue back and at the end, I’m not even sure what started it all off.

My brain works a very different way to his, I would solve problems in quite a detached way, by talking without getting feelings involved, very practical and straightforward. But he is a very emotional person, and he wants a full back and forth passionate heated conversation. But I can’t do that, I don’t cope well with raised voices and being shouted at. I struggle with emotional resilience and we struggle to connect because he’s all fired up and I’m halfway shutting down because I can’t cope.

He’s very caring and overly so - he feels too much and wants me to give him so much attention and care than I am capable of and I honestly have time for.. His point is that he pays a lot of attention to everything, and expects me to do the same for him. He loves very deeply and possessively, and in turn expects a lot. So in his mind he naturally feels hurt when I’m doing something that he doesn’t like. But it’s the way he reacts to disagreements that I’m completely overwhelmed with. Even a simple conversation about what to make for dinner tomorrow would suddenly spin out of control if I disagree with him and he would just rant and swear. The issue itself doesn’t really matter, something about my attitude or my tone would be enough to set him.

Being quiet didn’t help, explaining myself didn’t help, defending myself or asserting my feelings made it much worse, fighting with him about it also just destroys us both, and now I’m back to being quiet because I feel defeated. I’ve realised I can’t change him or help him. His anger and the way he responds is entirely in his control. And I can only choose to control my own feelings to not give into reacting. Nowadays, when I see that he’s starting to go off, I tell him firmly that I’m not going to take part in the conversation is he’s not talking in a calm manner, without shouting or swearing. If he continues, I’ll try and leave the room. It takes a huge amount of control for me to not react to all insults or rude things he’s saying, and sometimes I have the presence of mind to tell myself that I just need to focus on not reacting. Because if I react and respond, it does not end well for either of us because it’s always him that wins the shouting match. Many times I don’t make it and the stress of it overwhelms me.

If I could have my life over, I know I wouldn’t choose him. But I chose him and this is my life and I have to see through it for my family’s sake. I’m by no means a perfect woman or wife. I have have a lot of faults too in the marriage. But I feel like this ranting, swearing, and shouting is just unacceptable. Are there any practical things I can do to keep my sanity, to stay calm when being shouted at, to keep my mental self protected from his harshness? How do I stop myself becoming overwhelmed, because I need to protect myself for the sake of being a calm parent for my kids.

Sometimes he apologises for swearing, but not always. Sometimes he would just completely try and justify it with his own reasons the next day. Once he’s got it out of his system, he’s back to his loving self. Then I’m left like whiplashed and confused trying to work out whether there was any substance within his rant or if he was just in an uncontrollable anger mood? Leaving him is not an option at the moment, for the sake of the kids and extended family, I’m trying to put my best efforts in to see if we can come out the other end better.

I know I haven’t really asked a specific question, but I’m just writing to see if there is anyone out there who has been in similar situation? What helps you stay calm when your partner is angry with you and ranting at you? Are there any helpful coping mechanisms or calming techniques I can practise to deal with this sort of conflict?

Thanks in advance!

OP posts:
SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 17/06/2025 00:23

A divorce certificate and happy children, free from an abusive household.
Abusers are not to be tolerated in any way. Life is for blissful, peaceful enjoyance.
What type of help do you need to discard your abuser? Women's Aid/solicitor appointment?

ETA- just saw you want to stay with the abusive man. Ok, trauma based therapy for your kids will be essential. I write as a victim of child abuse. Centre your kids. Disregard the man's voice, thoughts, opinions.

SapporoBaby · 17/06/2025 00:29

He’s abusing you OP. Is he ever violent? What would he do if you tried to film him when he screams at you?

Lizzbear · 17/06/2025 00:31

Oh God. I totally know where you’re coming from. My husband is a shouter. If we get into a disagreement. Very similar to yours. He gets out of control.
Like you, I thought about leaving, but haven’t for the sake of the family.
I just say if you don’t calm down, I’m leaving the room/house if he’s really shouting.
I probably should have left years ago. No real advice. But just know I see you x

HeyWiggle · 17/06/2025 00:43

For the sake of your children you must leave him. This is awful for them to endure.

ZiggyPlaysGuitarrr · 17/06/2025 00:50

He can get angry over little things - like if I ran the tap too much, or scuffed the paintwork, or cook something wrong, or didn’t dress right etc etc.

Based on this alone, he is abusive. You've written paragraph after paragraph trying to rationalise what can't be rationalised. The only solution is to leave him. Your children will be damaged by his behaviour if you stay.

TicklishSheep · 17/06/2025 01:15

Why are you putting yourself and your poor children through this? You only get one life. Why do you want to waste yours living like this? It sounds horrific for everyone involved (except your awful DH who seems to get whatever he wants by throwing tantrums and bullying everyone around him). I think you should look into getting some assistance from a psychologist for you and your children and seriously think about leaving him.

VoltaireMittyDream · 17/06/2025 01:24

He doesn’t feel things more deeply, I’m afraid - he’s emotionally unstable and controlling.

It’s not OK for him to shout and swear at you for how you dress or scuffing the paintwork. This is Sleeping With the Enemy territory.

Do you have support from friends and family? Can you start to work on making a plan to leave?

hoopieghirl · 17/06/2025 01:38

Feel your pain. Going through very similar experience. PM if you need to chat.

candishop · 17/06/2025 01:52

I’m sorry you’re going through this. Is he the same way with your children and other family? Not that it makes a difference, he sounds disgusting and intolerable.

stormwatcher · 17/06/2025 02:19

Stayed and coped, although felt like I was going to die of a stroke/heart attack.
Told myself not long until my youngest had finished school.
Dissociated in the middle of a horrific night.
Anxiety attacks started.
Childhood trauma (mine) reawakened.
Left.

.

Monestory · 17/06/2025 02:38

This was my father. He was, I'm quite certain, neurodivergent and genuinely quite unable to behave differently. We used to call it something else but I believe the term now would be dysregulated. He was aggressive exactly as you describe.

In his calm moments he was a calm, gentle, generous man. I loved him then and I love him now - but in his dysregulation he was terrifying. To you as an adult he is exhausting, unbearable, confusing, relentless. To your children, I promise you, he is something quite different.

Hear me when I tell you it has affected me to the roots of my soul. It has shaped every facet of my life. I am still unlocking the damage that being a child in a powerless dynamic and experiencing this sort of behaviour from someone who I am biologically programmed to love has done to me.

If you can leave with your children, leave.

arcticpandas · 17/06/2025 02:51

You are married to an abusive man. He doesn't have more feelings than anyone else; he just thinks that he's the emperor and you should obey to whatever rule he sets out. If not he gets mad and abuses you verbally. I feel so sorry for your children growing up in this abusive home. It will affect them deeply. If you stay with them I think you're as bad as him subjecting your children to this hostile environment.

SurlyValentine · 17/06/2025 03:50

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the decree absolute.

Thankfully I didn't have kids with him, but he had two from his first marriage and I can only hope that they are getting therapy.

I recorded a few of his rants and asked him one time when he was calm if he'd listen to them. He declined and called me twisted and manipulative for recording him, which told me everything I needed to know.

Please leave him as soon as you can, for your children's sakes if not your own x

FortyElephants · 17/06/2025 05:25

This is domestic abuse. How do your children cope when he's ranting at you? How do you think it feels for them to live in this home? You're allowed to accept that you made a mistake choosing him and take action to protect your children and yourself from his horrible, abusive, possessive, controlling behaviour.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/06/2025 05:26

Please take heed of the responses saying you are being abused. Abuse is not just physical in nature. It’s about power and control and this man wants absolute over you all.

How can you be helped here into leaving your abuser?. You do not have to stay with him
for your family’s sake. You have a choice.

ALL of your post describes abuse of both you and in turn your children who are also seeing and hearing far more than you care to realise. What you are also describing re him is the nice and nasty cycle of abuse which is a continuous one. If you are in the U.K. I would urge you to contact both Women’s Aid and a Solicitor to talk about divorce proceedings.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. Did you see similar between your own parents?.

There are no strategies short of leaving him that will work, there are no words you can say that will make him become nice or a better person. You are on a hiding to nothing with him and he will destroy both you and in turn your kids if you stay. He’s done a right number on you and actively targeted you to abuse as well. What was your life like prior to him?.

These men hate women and all of them starting with their mother.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/06/2025 05:29

Your father was an abuser too Monestory. Nothing you write of him suggests nd . He was yet another male abuser who terrorised and otherwise controlled his family to their detriment.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/06/2025 05:35

And lizzbear staying for the sake of the family is not going to work out well for you or your kids either. How’s that working out for you? It is not is it? it is not easier for you to stay.

How can you be helped into leaving your abuser?.

you have a choice re this man and your kids do not. Make choices with you and they in mind going forward, not your abuser. It’s not too late for you to leave.

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 17/06/2025 05:35

He's not a great dad , children have eyes and ears and this will affect them.
I grew up in a DV household and I'm getting therapy to help come to terms with it.
50 years later so it does leave a mark.

babyproblems · 17/06/2025 05:41

I agree this is abusive of sorts…
I would say you could offer to go to counseling but if he refuses I would think separation is the other option.

You don’t deserve to live like this.
This will damage your children. They will grow up to see this as normal and as ok and either behave like this to their families or tolerate this from other people. Neither is ok.

Tell him you want change or it’s over. Don’t go to your grave with this being your lot in life! X

babyproblems · 17/06/2025 05:42

Agree this makes him a thoroughly shit dad actually op and not a great one at all.

morethanspice · 17/06/2025 05:45

Please, for the sake of your sanity and the emotional safety of your family, find a way to get away from this abuser. As a former wife of a ranter, usually at two am having woken me up to start shouting about his perceived issues with me, it’s taken years to recover and I’m still expecting criticism from everyone as a result of the years of conditioning to it.

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 17/06/2025 05:51

@morethanspice it's no way for anyone to live like that then it's walking on eggshells trying to appease them but unfortunately abuser's cannot be appeased there's always something.
Sorry you had to endure that.

Bigparrot · 17/06/2025 05:56

I understand. I have similar.

He tells me that I don't act like I love him. I wonder why.

I have tried counselling but initially we made huge progress but he just dominated the last 2 sessions and doesn't want to go anymore because he can't see that anything has changed.

Its not you.

Enrichetta · 17/06/2025 06:01

I chose him and this is my life and I have to see through it for my family’s sake

surely you must see that your children growing up with such a horribly abusive man will damage them terribly?

In years to come they will spend years in therapy, trying to cope with the damage that is being inflicted on them now…

it is your absolute duty to save them - and yourself - from this trauma.

screwyou · 17/06/2025 06:02

I think you are my Sister in Law who tolerates this shit from my Brother. You should have left him years ago, protect your DC if you can't do it for yourself.

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