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Is this unusual behaviour?

112 replies

HappyDaysAreAhead · 21/05/2025 23:02

My elderly Mum phones me 6-10 times a day as well as texts.

She is quite nosey and I know from experience that everything I say gets communicated back to my sibling who I have very little contact with.

I tend to limit what I say and just keep conversation light and uninteresting.

Historically she will try always try to catch me out on something I've said. Often, she tries to disprove something, all sorts, from trying to say I'm off work for the day and not told them to phoning me abroad to try and disprove I've actually gone abroad! No idea why.

Sibling is very self-absorbed and presents a 'pity me' attitude all of the time. Mum doesn't see this even when I raise it.

One time when I was holiday abroad she and my sibling drove to my house (haven't visited me for 10 years), knocked on door (obvs they knew I was abroad) then looked into the windows and letterbox for quite a while. Neighbour captured it on his CCTV and thought it was odd and he hadn't seen them before.

I have heard from others that my siblings thinks as I work and study part time that I should be doing a lot more for our Mum. I do 80% of stuff for her as she's elderly.Sibling does about 5%. My study is nearly up so this is possibly why it's getting worse.

My partner says this isn't normal behaviour for a Mum and sibling and thinks they are trying to control my time as phone often, emotionally pressure me to go round, expect me to be at their beck and call as I only work and study part time and the kids are at school all day so I must have loads of free time!

Is it normal?

OP posts:
ButteryLightHouse · 22/05/2025 13:54

After reading your update I'm going to amend my previous advice. Stop interacting with either of them. Change your phone number. Make plans to move away. Leave them to the mercies of each other. Get therapy if you can afford to. You need to grieve for a mother and a family that you didn't have and you will never have.

I'm so very sorry for your childhood. You were a child and they emotionaly abused you. You are an adult now and you have all the power that you didn't have then. You can have a better life than this. You owe them nothing

justasking111 · 22/05/2025 14:29

@HappyDaysAreAhead my mother who I have not spoken to in 18 years last week went into a home she's 90 this year. I spoke to the manager saying I wanted no contact nor did my brother's but we would bury her when she died.

The manager admitted she had caused so much drama already had insisted on meetings daily with the manager. She's got all her marbles but is so imperious apparently. I wished the manager the best of luck.

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 22/05/2025 14:51

She has bullied and abused you for your entire life, and your sibling gleefully joins in. She is a despicable character and absolutely does not deserve your love or concern for her welfare. If she needs ongoing care and refuses point blank to have carers or anyone else in her home, well tough. She will have to lump it or get your sibling to step up for once.

She has no right to demand anything of you. In any case all this nonsense about her will is ridiculous. You could care for her for years, and she could leave everything to you sibling anyway. Tell her she can give your share to the dogs' home for all you care, you don't want it anyway.

OP, I know this will sound like an impossibility right now, but you need to completely cut contact with her. She is your abuser and shows every sign of continuing that abuse.

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 22/05/2025 14:54

HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 11:47

Yes I do struggle and I am a people pleaser. I don't know if I can learn how to tolerate it. I don't know how.

You have been indoctrinated into being a people pleaser. And where does it get you? Precisely nowhere.

You do not have to learn to tolerate it. There is no reason why you should have to.

HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 14:58

Mellowautumnmists · 22/05/2025 12:51

@HappyDaysAreAheadI could have written much of your post myself. Eventually I went NC with my mother and sibling and didn’t even attend my mother’s funeral (could use the cover of Covid for that though!).

By way of an aside, but linked to what you’re describing, what will happen when your mum dies? Will your sibling be the sole beneficiary and inherit your mum’s entire estate?

I have no idea but I forsee I will be tasked with the admin and sorting out

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HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 15:01

Itsseweasy · 22/05/2025 13:04

Your Mother and sister are covert narcissists, you are the scapegoat. You are clearly aware that your sister is also the golden child.
Ask me how I know! Sadly it’s taken me many many years to work this out about myself but you need to turn off your empathy and build iron-clad boundaries.
My mother would say how lonely she is and then talk shit about everyone.
I was the only one she would want to see because I was the only one who would do anything and everything for her.
My siblings are revered by her as the golden ones and “far too busy” (unlike me of course - full time working with a child and house to run! 🙄)
It took a few catastrophic events for me to see the truth and now I can’t unsee it I’ve realised she is a nasty human being.
I have grieved the loss of her and set firm boundaries.
She tried crying, harassment, then rage like you wouldn’t believe, and now, finally, I’m in the “discarded” phase of narcissistic abuse because she’s realised I am of no use to her.
My own mother. Whilst I’ve dealt with my son in hospital and she’s been complaining I don’t give her enough attention. She’s the most selfish manipulative person I’ve ever known.
Again, it’s taken YEARS for me to finally get here. Please don’t be me, stop answering the phone, stop answering her questions, stop being available. It’s your sister’s turn to do it all now.
You literally have to turn off the empathy and try your hardest to turn cold towards her.
And NO ONE will understand, they will say you are evil for behaving like this towards your own mother - it’s only those of us who have lived through parental narcissistic abuse who will understand.
I urge you to search “covert narcissistic mother” on Reddit and YouTube, I’m not joking when I say those resources literally saved my life. Good luck 🩷

Thanks. I will watch those.

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Dunnocantthinkofone · 22/05/2025 15:06

HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 14:58

I have no idea but I forsee I will be tasked with the admin and sorting out

No one can ‘task’ you with anything, either before or after death

You need to find your anger OP. This despicable pair deserve nothing less. How would you feel if one of your children had been treated like this? Would you tell them to suck it up and keep the peace? To keep being the good little girl at their beck and call? Or would you tell them to banish these revolting people from their life and start afresh surrounded by the people who care for them and treat them properly?

Mellowautumnmists · 22/05/2025 16:07

Dunnocantthinkofone · 22/05/2025 15:06

No one can ‘task’ you with anything, either before or after death

You need to find your anger OP. This despicable pair deserve nothing less. How would you feel if one of your children had been treated like this? Would you tell them to suck it up and keep the peace? To keep being the good little girl at their beck and call? Or would you tell them to banish these revolting people from their life and start afresh surrounded by the people who care for them and treat them properly?

Edited

I agree with this advice wholeheartedly.

Stop letting them bully you and put your boundaries in place now.

I asked about your mum’s will because my mother used hers as a weapon to use against me if I ever did anything wrong. By wrong I mean going on the pill when I was 28 and in a long standing relation with the man I married, and not naming my youngest daughter after her…… Heinous offences obviously.

As a previous poster said, please don’t be me xx

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 22/05/2025 16:54

HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 14:58

I have no idea but I forsee I will be tasked with the admin and sorting out

Well that is easy to dodge. You just hand the whole thing to a solicitor to deal with, and wash your hands of it. You sign something called a Deed of Renunciation and that's it.

HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 17:08

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 22/05/2025 16:54

Well that is easy to dodge. You just hand the whole thing to a solicitor to deal with, and wash your hands of it. You sign something called a Deed of Renunciation and that's it.

Edited

There is no will so no Executor. Who decides whether to get a Solicitor to do it or which next of kin?

I only ask as I can see a few potential situations that may arise such as Sister.

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Talulahalula · 22/05/2025 19:28

You don’t owe your mum anything just because she is your mother and you promised your dad that you would make sure she was okay. What you are describing is abusive and controlling.

Imagine if you could reach back through time and give your child self a hug and tell her that she has one life. And that she should be true to how she wants to live it. Because good grief, your child self needed to hear that and it’s never too late to realise that you are worth paying attention to.

thepariscrimefiles · 22/05/2025 20:04

HappyDaysAreAhead · 22/05/2025 11:19

I don't think I'm bitter but this may sound like I am, but may be the back story may be worth telling.

Growing up I was always the problem child. I got bullied at school quite badly. It really has effected me on every aspect. I had no confidence. No support for school work. No guidance. Parents never hugged, kissed or told me I was loved.

Both parents used to berate me in public. Then when I would cry they said why couldn't I be like my sister.

Sister arrived on the scene. 8 years ago difference. I absolutely adored her. I thought my life was happier now she was here and I thought I would have a friend for life and do all sorts if Sister stuff. It never happened.

Parents gave her the best of everything and often said she was prettier than me in front of us both. She would get anything she wanted.

I have always loved the sea and water and wanted to go to swimming. Parents never took me. She got 121 swimming lessons.

I was told not to have driving lessons as I wasn't the correct personality to drive being unconfident. She got early driving lessons and a car.

When I left home, she was over the moon. Parents slated my first house. Seemed jealous that perhaps I'd done stuff that they said I could not; drive, job, own house - but have always struggled with making friends as I tend to not trust and be closed until I am really sure of someone.

As adults, we were compared a lot. Sister became very confident and ridiculed my choices. I am thrifty and not wasteful so I don't have a brand new car like her (she had a new car each year) so my car used to be referred to as a Bangor car and my parents would not let me park on the drive when I visited as it caused them embarrassment.

Why on earth do you feel responsible for your toxic mum after the dreadful childhood you had? I would block her and your sister and leave them to it.

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