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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 05/06/2025 18:14

DolefullySingingMotherfucka · 05/06/2025 17:32

I have an excellent recipe for Beef Wellington if you need it.

GrinGrinGrin

RawBloomers · 05/06/2025 18:19

TwinklingPotato · 05/06/2025 13:51

Thanks again, everyone.

He's in bed when I leave in the morning, gets up some time after 9am (I leave around 6.30am).

I just wish it was done now, you know? I wish it was a month ahead and this, the hardest bit in my mind was all done..

I wish it was all over already

You are trying to do this stealthily but it sounds like it’s taking so long it’s an exacerbating the pain of leaving.

Could you get him to go off for a day somehow (maybe there’s something related to his hobby he’d like to see, or you could send him 150 miles away to “pick up something you’ve bought”, or there’s a friend you could encourage him to visit since he’s been so morose after that walk?). Then arrange to have the day off work and a friend and a van, or whatever sized vehicle you need, and just get it all done?

thehistorymum · 05/06/2025 18:39

Another vote for leaving early. You’re doing amazing and are remarkably brave - just get out asap xxx

thedancingclown · 05/06/2025 19:02

To be honest tomorrow morning would be perfect as you could go away for a few days straight after work to another town etc and have a mini break. Being physically far away from him & the house would give you a mental rest and the space to take in the huge life decision you have just made & look forward to the future.

tensmum1964 · 05/06/2025 19:52

thehistorymum · 05/06/2025 18:39

Another vote for leaving early. You’re doing amazing and are remarkably brave - just get out asap xxx

This with bells on. I've read your reasons why you are taking this long, but I don't really understand why you are still there. You have everything set up now, just go.

Lifeislove · 05/06/2025 20:27

I've followed this thread from the start and I feel @TwinklingPotato has got it right. He may have a sniff but as far as he's concerned she goes to work as normal (except she doesn't) and leaves. As she's on leave and boss aware he can go to her place of work and she's not there for a couple of days. He has no idea where she's gone.
The dangers posted are valid and all possible but I feel OP has planned this as well as possible in the circumstances

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Elboob · 05/06/2025 20:53

@TwinklingPotato another here cheering you on. But you know when you are adventuring and have to jump into the sea off something /or start abseling and you pause and pause and pause...
Because the fear of the emptiness below you stops you. All it does is build up the anxiety and make you less likely to do it.
You KNOW it is safe to jump.
So just take a run at it AND DO IT NOW.
Go tomorrow morning.
What are you pausing for?
Like the others say he is more and more likely to suspect something as you pause to get your nerve. What if he grabs your leg as you jump and pulls you onto the rocks?
Better to go quickly and safely.

You can do this.
We are behind you.
Life will be better.

Timeforyetanothernamechange · 05/06/2025 21:42

Just stumbled across this thread tonight and you're amazing OP. What strength and courage, you're an inspiration and I'm wishing you all the best for your new chapter. I can't wait to read about your new life when you take the plunge.

A PP suggested that you take a few days away this weekend on a mini break until your bed arrives. I think that's a great idea, some time to decompress and relax because I'm sure you'll be feeling every emotion once you've left. You should treat yourself to mark the new beginning.

Doorhandlechair · 06/06/2025 00:15

You’re doing brilliantly, but the only thing I would say is, you have everything in place to leave immediately. A bed is such a small thing compared to your safety. So the only reason you’re not leaving is because something internal is stopping you. Whatever it is, your safety is more important, I promise you. Go.

TwinklingPotato · 06/06/2025 09:31

Hi, all.

thank you again - I don't think I can say that enough! - for all of the advice and support.

Ok, so if I'm totally honest, I'm scared of leaving. I'm scared of losing the familiarity, routine, all of that - as bad as it is - it's a big unknown I'm stepping in to and that might be why it seems I'm dragging my feet.

I dropped off some bits and bobs yesterday. It felt nice being there. Peaceful. I used the loo, too - how exciting! I saw the birds in the garden, the calmness everywhere, I was excited!

I'd love to get him out of the house, but he's always there. All day. every day. Unless it's a weekend, then he's out, but with me - if I don't go he doesn't go. I said he should catch up with a friend, suggested a couple of names, he said "he'll do what he wants when he wants", and that going and seeing friends wasn't getting stuff done. He spent all day yesterday in his workshop, I thought perhaps he'd realised something and had taken on some work. Of course not. He was fixing an instrument.

We're definitely in the complimentary phase of the cycle at the moment, lots of "I love you", "you look pretty", "we need each other".. I wish my eyes had been opened to this, properly, years ago. All of my 30s were spent with him, slowly being turned into this subservient person I don't even recognise anymore.

I envy the women who have boundaries from the get-go, who seem not to ever be sucked into this kind of thing

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Mrsmouse71 · 06/06/2025 09:47

I’d sleep on the floor, just go

Mingenious · 06/06/2025 09:52

No-one has boundaries from the get go. Life is a journey of discovery, about yourself, and about other people. Don’t look back to where you’ve come from, look forward to where you’re going - your own house, your own money, your own birds in the garden and the pride in yourself that will definitely come from becoming such a strong, independent woman.

It’s going to feel weird for a few weeks but then you’ve got your whole life ahead of you. Don’t be scared, don’t feel guilty. You’ve totally got this! 🤜🏼

FluentAquaMoose · 06/06/2025 10:12

10 years is a long time. Cohersive control, love-bombing, gas lighting can be incredibly subtle and at other times it hits you like a kipper. He has really dragged you down. You are living an existence that pleases him, meets his needs and expectations. You have woken up to it, this isn't a life that sustains you and your needs from a relationship.
I completely understand that familiarity feeling. At the moment you are holding onto some parallel bars and you need to let go, there will be another set for you to grab hold of that are much better, enriching for your life.
He will be ok, if he's not, that is not your fault.
Have you written your letter? perhaps get everything down on paper, i'm hoping this will not only be cathartic but also provide even greater clarity as to why you need to spread your wings outside of this relationship with him.

I'm really hoping your new home gives you just that..... a sense of home, belonging, peace, joy and you begin to get yourself back. A new emerging happier version of you. You can start to make new friends, go out.

I'm still trying to make friends as i'm quite an introvert despite looking like a social butterfly but hopefully you will feel a new sense of found freedom where he no longer drags you down..

jeaux90 · 06/06/2025 10:16

OP just focus on the forward.
When you leave his house for the last time, when you walk over your threshold of your new place, knowing this is your first night, just savour the moment of peace. That this is your new life without him in it.

I still remember that moment 15 years later.

thedancingclown · 06/06/2025 10:33

No one has boundaries from the get go. And if they did they would change with time and experience.

All this can happen to anyone—see bellow. you are actually in a similar position here re financial & coercive control. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7067l7180lo.amp

Sugababes at the Brit awards red carpet. Keisha is in the centre, wearing a black dress with a statement collar like a hoop round her neck

Taiwo Leo Atieno accused of assaulting Sugababes' Keisha Buchanan - BBC News

Former Luton Town player Taiwo Leo Atieno faces eight charges relating to his ex, Keisha Buchanan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7067l7180lo.amp

VioletandMauve · 06/06/2025 10:38

I left a relationship like this. I was lucky though, I had my own home. But I remember the feeling of lightness that I got the evening I told him it was over, when I got back home. I sat up all night on my stairs just thinking and it was like a weight had been lifted. Took a while for the old me to come back, there was a big period of adjustment but the old me did come back and life is so wonderful now after I left the piece of sh1t.

TwinklingPotato · 06/06/2025 10:44

VioletandMauve · 06/06/2025 10:38

I left a relationship like this. I was lucky though, I had my own home. But I remember the feeling of lightness that I got the evening I told him it was over, when I got back home. I sat up all night on my stairs just thinking and it was like a weight had been lifted. Took a while for the old me to come back, there was a big period of adjustment but the old me did come back and life is so wonderful now after I left the piece of sh1t.

What did you say to him? I'm still going down the letter route now, but I just keep thinking, I'd have no idea how to even have started the conversation!

I didn't know that about the lady from Sugababes. It's rife, isn't it? Scarily so, it seems. When I was 25, I had a miscarriage (I hadn't known I was pregnant), and I sometimes wonder, if that hadn't happened, I wonder if the mum version of me would have been more resilient to this kind of relationship? I mean, I doubt he would have been interested in me, because there would have been a very legitimate priority that would have trumped him being the sole-person to care about..

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heldinadream · 06/06/2025 10:56

Hey @TwinklingPotato thinking about you today.
Sending you shed loads of virtual courage and hugs.
It'll be JUST as scary next week as it is today - why waste another weekend of your precious, unique life?
What's stopping you from doing it today? Is there anything practical in the way?
Can we all hold your hand while you jump?
We'll all be there on the other side!

Halo20 · 06/06/2025 11:04

Op of course its scary and will be a massive change but trust me you will feel so much better once you do it plus if you do it today you will have the weekend to yourself.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 06/06/2025 11:21

What exactly is left at the house now ?

Are you really going to spend ALL weekend with him !

when you have your new home waiting for you - you have the keys !!!

Think of it as ripping off a plaster, you knew it may hurt a little but actually once it's off it wasn't as bad as you thought !

Just do it.

TENSsion · 06/06/2025 11:28

The sooner you do this OP, the longer he has to get himself sorted for the next month of bills.
Perhaps framing it as being for HIS benefit may help you get out.

VioletandMauve · 06/06/2025 11:37

TwinklingPotato · 06/06/2025 10:44

What did you say to him? I'm still going down the letter route now, but I just keep thinking, I'd have no idea how to even have started the conversation!

I didn't know that about the lady from Sugababes. It's rife, isn't it? Scarily so, it seems. When I was 25, I had a miscarriage (I hadn't known I was pregnant), and I sometimes wonder, if that hadn't happened, I wonder if the mum version of me would have been more resilient to this kind of relationship? I mean, I doubt he would have been interested in me, because there would have been a very legitimate priority that would have trumped him being the sole-person to care about..

I had no idea what I was going to say (or when), until I said it. At the end of a difficult evening, (another friend was there, I waited until he had left) I just said "I can't do this anymore". And he replied "then don't". I said ok then and went to leave and suddenly his whole persona changed, from being aggressive to so apologetic and crying, the whole full on thing.

On my way home he sent me a text which just said "ouch". For the first time in that 5.5 years I didn't reply to his text (he used to get mad if I didn't reply instantly to him, regardless of what I was doing).

That was the start of a period of healing for me and turning my life around.

BUT - that was him, I don't know how your partner will take it if you say it to his face.

Also, the next day he messaged me saying he was going to do something stupid as in end it all. I ignored it. He didn't do anything of the sort.

AlertCat · 06/06/2025 11:48

Took me three years, @TwinklingPotato . Coercive control leaves you a shell of who you used to be. But the sense of liberation is absolutely wonderful, once you’re in your own place with no-one to answer to. No-one expecting you to pay for them. No-one huffing because you haven’t been attentive enough. No-one creating an atmosphere just to put you on edge wondering what you did wrong this time, just to make you more appeasing, remove a boundary, do the thing.

I had one relationship after the cc one, which became violent. Then I was single for over five years, and then I was able to have boundaries and listen to my own instincts. I don’t need my H, but I do love him. Being alone holds no fears for me any more, and that makes me powerful.

This step will be hard, but it’s worth taking. We’re all here for you, our arms around you and our hands held out to you.

TellingBone · 06/06/2025 11:56

You're not going are you?

Alright. Stay then.

How does THAT feel? How do you like THEM apples?

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