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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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BuckChuckets · 27/05/2025 18:57

Ahh, congrats, OP, you're an inspiration.

I know a lot of the time it's not as 'easy' as you're having it in practical terms for people to leave, so that's a bonus. I'm sure it's still really hard for you emotionally, so the fact you've done it is brilliant 💪🏼

WileyCyrus · 27/05/2025 19:04

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You know, I did similar when my ex and I split. Left everything and cleaned the whole house etc before I went, as I couldn’t bear to see him without. I even bought him a new duvet and bedding and put beers in the fridge for him. It was something that at the time I just needed to do, to prove I was the bigger person or whatever. So I can understand why the OP might feel that way about not wanting to leave unpaid bills etc.
However, I look back and fucking cringe now…I wish I could give myself a massive slap and remind me that he was an adult who was absolutely fucking capable of buying curtains and putting them up, and even if he wasn’t capable, it wasn’t my problem! I really regret behaving so reasonably as it wasn’t appreciated at all and left me feeling like a massive mug. And probably hundreds of pounds out of pocket from having to fork out for new everything (despite everything in the shared home being purchased by me anyway!)
@TwinklingPotato I see why you want to walk out without feeling you owe anything, but just remember how much you’ve funded his lazy lifestyle and you might just need every penny you can get over the coming months. I hope everything goes smoothly for you, however you choose to do it.

ThisChirpyFox · 27/05/2025 19:08

OP I know you want to pay your way. Look at expected bills to come out and only leave that in the bank account you share with him. Either take the rest out or spend it on the Friday for things you can put in your flat eg food, bedding etc. Don't leave him a penny extra.

And good luck by the way!

RedRock41 · 27/05/2025 19:32

OP felt really emotional reading your posts. It’s abundantly clear you are one of life’s givers and lovely people.
You are doing the right thing. 13 years a long time but the rest of your life hopefully longer. It’s a mistake to do a lot of things but loving someone is usually not one of them.
Sounds like as he brought the roof, not through hard graft on his part, but due to this he’s expected you to bring the rest or just about ever more.
Everything you gave and contributed was through your own blood/sweat/tears. Him just through accident of birth.
Incredible he took the position seemingly what’s his is his and what’s yours joint.
If he really wanted to give you security and all to be shared he’d of signed over half the house long ago or married you etc.
His comment about if you ever got sick it would be over was cruel and a red flag 🚩. No fun at all being a cash cow.
Another 🚩was how you being unhappy and wanting to work less didn’t even register.
Not to mention the rest.
You’ve done amazing to build your career and agree being able just to move on absolutely 💯 the best for your happiness, security and long term health.
It’s quite incredible how magnanimous you are being and have no doubt once you get time to reflect and talk to someone that you’d be the kind of person we’d all love to be friends with and who has much to give in due course to a partner willing to also look after you and your needs.
Suspect when you leave your current partner will love bomb you at some stage and promise you the moon and the stars.
Wishing you all the happiness and adventures you deserve herein. ❤️

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CrownCoats · 27/05/2025 21:09

Good luck OP. We’re all routing for you.

ConstitutionHill · 27/05/2025 21:31

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 19/05/2025 13:50

Be very, very careful when leaving. Accusing you of poisoning him is not something that a mentally stable person would do. Have you ever heard the saying "every accusation is a confession"?

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GreenTraybake · 27/05/2025 22:29

Super proud of you and we cant wait to read your updates in June and the coming months. You are finally putting yourself first and that is amazing to see.

ConstitutionHill · 27/05/2025 22:32

Good luck OP. I guarantee, this bloke will be just fine. You are pulling your hair out with worry but people like him always find someone to bail them out. He'll "borrow" (leech off) from mummy for a while and then before you know it, he'll turn on the charm and have some other woman in there, paying his bills and you'll be history, wondering what the last 13 years were all about.

sheetsandpillows · 28/05/2025 07:10

Following your story and wishing you the very best. You don’t realise it but you are giving others confidence and hope.

Monstersfromtheid · 28/05/2025 08:44

I've just read all your posts OP, sending a hand hold your way! You can do this x

TwinklingPotato · 28/05/2025 09:27

Just to say again, thank you to you all.

I didn't post last night as I didn't want to risk him seeing me (he gets funny if I put my phone down when he comes in a room). I was in bed last night trying to sleep and he was in his hobby room, playing guitar, it's all I could hear. I really think he gives me so little thought, it's sad and scary.

I know he will be fine, deep down, I just need to be able to convince myself on the surface of that, to stop the guilt and worry.

I can't wait to reconnect to old friends, to start living my life again. Honestly, you have all been so supportive - such friends to a complete stranger online, it's incredible. Perhaps reach out and connect when I'm gone, it'd be lovely.

Of course, I know some people don't understand why I want to leave him with zero balances on gas and the like, it's just how I am, a mug through and through but it's how I feel happier. Yes, I will always be the bad guy in his version - his exes all were when he told me about them. Yes, I will always be the one who abandoned him, left him with nothing, ducked out when he was trying to build his dream, but as long as I know the truth, that's all that matters.

It's been a slow build over the years, but something happened just before Christmas that woke me up, and I've been building myself up to this moment from then, so the post on here might have moved quickly, but to me it's been months coming, months getting worse, months of my emotion for him turning to an emptiness..

Thank you all, so, so much. I am waiting to hear what time I can go and get the keys on Friday (I can walk from work and won't take my phone, just in case).

On that note - trackers - the car went in and I asked them to check for anything non-factory, they said they found nothing. Apparently though, looking online, you can buy devices that can find trackers, so I might try one of those, though he hasn't mentioned anything that rang alarm bells since, and I have driven to and from work via different routes a couple of times..

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GeraniumRoseblush · 28/05/2025 09:59

Have been reading the thread @TwinklingPotato and along with everyone else, am wishing you all the best for the weekend. We're all cheering you on!

His selfish late night guitar playing is probably to get a reaction from you and he might also have sensed something's changed.

Be prepared that he might bombard you with messages and beg you to come back and once he sees that's not working, he'll badmouth you to all and sundry. Do not respond and don't give him any energy, that's what he'll want.

I understand why you don't want to give him any tiny thing to have a go about (I've been there done that!) - and you're not a mug, just a decent person. Be proud of yourself for getting out the best way you can, it's not easy.

You're sounding so strong and determined and I'm sure you'll feel so much lighter once you're out. Good luck and onwards to a happier future! 👊

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/05/2025 10:05

@TwinklingPotato I cannot wait til Sunday when you update us telling us you're in your home and free. You're amazing.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 28/05/2025 10:21

I doubt he could be bothered to install trackers on your car. He sounds bone idle.

TwinklingPotato · 28/05/2025 10:44

Very true @SugarPlumpFairyCakes !!

I need to order something to sleep on before I actually move in, but in the time between I will be decanting stuff to the new place on my journey to/from work. I sadly can't book any time off as my colleague is off for two weeks, so I need to try and do things covertly during working hours, which is frustrating but I'm trying not to think of that, I'm trying to be positive about it.

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ChessorBuckaroo · 28/05/2025 11:16

RosieCockle · 25/05/2025 13:27

WTAF?? Is he a sociopath?
Earlier in the thread I said don’t bother about him because he isn’t bothered about you. Well he’s confirmed that 100% now. This is one of the most horrifying relationship threads I’ve ever read. I wish you nothing but joy and happiness for the rest of your life x

I'd echo what you say. Just going through the whole thread now, and that comment about being "sick it would be over" is astonishingly brazen. Thank God your eyes have been opened OP and you can see clearly now. Looking forward to your updates on the move.

TENSsion · 28/05/2025 11:23

OP,
if you’re in the East Riding area, private message me. I’d be happy to help you and may have a few spare house bits and pieces you can have to set you up x

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 28/05/2025 11:28

The way he has treated you is appallingly selfish and he's been so brazen about it too. I've read all your posts but not everyone's responses, so apologies if this has been discussed. If you plan to tell him face to face then before you do I'd write out a full list of what he has done that has been wrong. It's clear that doing the right thing is important to you and you know you might doubt yourself afterwards and be sucked into believing his narrative. You would then have a written list of all the unreasonable treatment that you can read in moments of doubt. You could keep it at work if you're worried about him finding it. Fingers crossed for your new life.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 28/05/2025 11:40

He's going to be outraged.

Hollietree · 28/05/2025 12:24

Please do send us an update when you are safety in the house on your first evening @TwinklingPotato . We can all have a virtual housewarming celebration for you, I will certainly raise a glass of bubbly to celebrate with you on this thread!

Lighteningstrikes · 28/05/2025 12:59

He really is selfish playing his guitar when you’re trying to sleep and you’ve got to be up early for work in the morning. I’m surprised you haven’t bashed it over his head 😂

You’re doing so well, we’re all rooting for you.

Ps. I totally understand you wanting to pay your share of the gas. You are who you are and you can hold your head up high and not lower yourself to his greedy self-centred ways.

In essence you’re wishing him well and you’re not carrying any lingering bitterness away with you.

You will truly flourish without him dragging you down 💐

ThisChirpyFox · 28/05/2025 14:31

TENSsion · 28/05/2025 11:23

OP,
if you’re in the East Riding area, private message me. I’d be happy to help you and may have a few spare house bits and pieces you can have to set you up x

Yh OP didn't know you could private message on here. If near to midlands I'd like to say the same. Have some furniture, including bed in spare room that has been used literally a handful of times.

TwinklingPotato · 28/05/2025 14:47

Thanks you @TENSsion and @ThisChirpyFox that is so very kind of you both, really so, so kind!

I'm not near either of you, sadly - though I have been scrolling through Freecycle and am quite amazed at what people give away! I may need to hire a van!

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Mingenious · 28/05/2025 14:50

I think you’ll be able to pick up furniture really easily, you’re right - people give away all sorts!!

i’d be excited about buying new kitchen bits and bed sheets and towels and stuff!

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