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Cross dressing partner apparently given it up

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Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 13:21

Hi guys, I don't know if anyone remembers me from last year, whereby I posted about my partner being away for work staying in a hotel. I had my suspicions that he might be cheating so checked his laptop search history to find that he'd bid on a pair of stripper heels on Ebay and had googled where to buy female bodysuits in the area he was currently in.

Well, here I am, back again and desperately needing to vent/advice as I can't speak to anybody about it in real life and I'm feeling terrible about the whole thing. During the time I had that thread running (I eventually requested for it to be removed), posters on here were suggesting that the shoes were perhaps for him and not another woman. Well they were right.

It turns out that since he was 12 he had been experimenting with womens tights, bodysuits etc. When he had some time to himself he enjoyed doing cocaine and dressing in these types of clothes, as well as latex bodysuits.That night I found all of this in his history, rang him and confronted him about what I had found he was understandably embarassed and ashamed. He promised me not to tell anyone, hence why I had the thread removed.

The issue is that he of course said it's something he wouldn't do again. I remember my words at the time being somewhere along the lines of this is clearly a big part of who you are and I don't believe you can stop. Regardless, I continued the relationship but several months later, whilst washing the pots I looked up and noticed his keys on my key hook. At the time he was working over 2 hours away so I thought, sod it I'm going there to check.

I got on my bike and headed to his. As I mentioned last year we are on a family tracker, and as soon as I got close to his place, he rang me in a panic asking why I'm near his. I told him outright I'm going to see what's there. He was panicking so much he sounded like he was going to cry but I hung up and continued on, shaking and in fear of what I would find. Stupidly at this point I still believed it would be a womans clothes that he'd cheated on me with.

Got there, opened the door, bag of tights, rubber suit, female bodysuit the whole shebang, clearly been in a rush and put nothing away. Rubber suit had clearly been worn. In a frenzy, I biked home shaking and unfortunately subsequently had quite a bad accident whereby I bumped my head and needed an ambulance. A few days later was my 40th Birthday, myself, him and a few friends went into town but that got ruined as he spent the arse end of the night staring at any woman that happened to be wearing tights. Probably the worst week of my life and I've had some bad ones.

Anyway, as it was clear this was not something he could let go of, we arranged a city break away. I packed all the things I knew he'd like and we ended up having an evening with him in his tights, butt plug, restraints, the lot. He was nervous at first but very much enjoyed the evening. Tbh it did nothing for me but no particularly negative feelings.

The problem is I don't think I really realised how this would impact me. The manner in which I found out was bloody awful, quite frankly. His attitude was that I shouldn't have gone looking but I just knew in my gut something wasn't right. He often struggled to maintain erections and just never seemed to really WANT me iyswim. I never felt lusted after, he often turned down sex for reasons such as tiredness, stress etc.

To now. I am angry. I feel my right to make an informed decision having all the information presented to me was removed, although I do understand why he hid it from me. I feel unattractive (which objectively I don't think I am), I can't really explain why but I no longer feel feminine, like a woman. I've started making less of an effort with my appearance, I just don't really care anymore.

Anyway, we are now going round in circles. He swore a few months back that it would never happen again, to which obviously I don't believe, but he is insistent. My argument is I am now 40 years old, not old by any means but old enough to not have the time to be wasting on shit like this. He states he no longer needs it and it was something he only enjoyed doing whilst using drugs, which he doesn't do anymore. Essentially he is trying to make the argument that it was not at all a part of him but something drugs made him do. I'm not an idiot and I know this is unlikely the case.

I would say I'm now pretty depressed to be honest. I've lost any enjoyment in life, though I mask it well to outsiders.

On a few occasions I've drank too much wine and been incredibly nasty to him, belittling, mocking etc which he doesn't deserve as tbh other than this he has been the most patient, kind, caring boyfriend I have ever had. No excuse really but I believe I've done this to make him feel as crap as I'm left feeling. I feel at this point we would be better off separating but he says he adores me and doesn't want to break up, that it will never happen again.

Sorry for the long post and if you've got this far then thanks for reading. Any advice/experience with this would be greatly appreciated. Really don't know what to do for the best and at this point, sick of men really. There's always bloody something with them.

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Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 13:27

Also relevant to add that amongst his search history that day was the porn hed been viewing and it was instructions and self bondage and 'sissy' porn on Porhub, people (I'm not sure which sex, didnt look long enough) dressed in full latex gimp suits.

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Triptraptrippytap · 10/03/2025 13:30

He won’t change. You need to move on, without him.

Catoo · 10/03/2025 13:30

Time to leave.

I wouldn’t put up with him lusting after any woman wearing tights in front of me. I don’t think that’s what ‘kind and caring’ boyfriends do.

Also your sex life will continue to be crap as he needs his kinks to get off. Your needs will increasingly be ignored, the kinks will grow.

I can’t see how this will improve. I’m sorry.

💐

TY78910 · 10/03/2025 13:31

I don't have any direct advice but if this isn't the relationship for you, then that's that. You are clearly uncomfortable and you don't want to engage in his kinks.

I'm not sure if I agree with the knowledge being stripped away from you. It's not a widely accepted lifestyle and as you have described he was deeply embarrassed and has hidden a lot of this from you. Judging by your reaction, the fact that you've gotten drunk and belittled him for his lifestyle, the reasons for him hiding this seem valid. Essentially everything he was afraid of, has happened.

His kink isn't illegal. It's a specific one which not everyone would accept but it's not malicious. He isn't dressing up and harassing people, he isn't forcing himself on anyone and he is not engaging in sexual violence. So he isn't doing anything wrong.

As much as you feel betrayed about not knowing, and I can understand that, the reality is that you wouldn't have accepted this even if he came clean in the first place. Unless you meet on a site specific for sexual fantasies, it's hardly something you would disclose on your first date. The reality is that it would be very hard finding someone you can have a genuine, loving relationship with, who would also accept / embrace that lifestyle.

You clearly don't think this is something you can accept so leave for both your sakes. Find someone you gel with 100%, and allow him to find someone who won't judge and belittle him.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 10/03/2025 13:35

I don't think I would want this lifestyle either OP.

Just as he can't help having this preference, you can't help not wanting to be with someone who is in to it.

I'd be thinking of an exit strategy, keep it civil, it's nothing personal but it's not for you.
No matter what he says, he will never be able to suppress this entirely.

Good luck.

LimeGoose · 10/03/2025 13:36

It is not a harmless kink because it’s degrading to women. Men like him see being female as the utmost in degradation, which is why they turn to cross dressing and female appropriation as a form of sadomasochistic humiliation. Cross dressing is a paraphilia and paraphilias come in clusters, so he is likely to have more fetishes and they will escalate.

WombTangClan · 10/03/2025 13:40

Run.
I say this with absolute kindness.
Ten years ago I found out I was married to a cross dresser through him forgetting to close his browser when he went to work.
He made the promise he'd stop and didn't need it any more.
18 months ago I found out not only was he back cross dressing but sleeping with other cross dressing men.
It was traumatic as hell.

I've since started dating again. There are wonderful uncomplicated men out there. You deserve better.

pikkumyy77 · 10/03/2025 13:41

Look: regardless of the reason this man and you are incompatible. And in reality you always were. He faked you out and you took on his problems (ED, disinterest, lack of passion) as your problem to solve or ignore.

They were red flags—not only for him but for you. You put up with a poor relationship for reasons that seemed good to you at the time. Now you are out of the ocean of love and on dry land you need to take a deep breath and turn your back on it and start walking towards your future on dry land. You can and will have other, better, relationships. Look into yourself and this relationship and try to discern if there were places where greater wisdom, or caution, or self respect would mean a different result.

He is to blame for his dishonesty, ni doubt! And this betrayal at such a fundamental level is highly traumatic. But the way forward is to take control of your life and the narrative of this relationship goung forward. Look back clinically —have a post mortem as it were—and reflect in where you didn’t appreciate your own instincts or where you didn’t prioritize your feelings enough so next time you will only accept golden treatment from an honest person.

TY78910 · 10/03/2025 13:45

LimeGoose · 10/03/2025 13:36

It is not a harmless kink because it’s degrading to women. Men like him see being female as the utmost in degradation, which is why they turn to cross dressing and female appropriation as a form of sadomasochistic humiliation. Cross dressing is a paraphilia and paraphilias come in clusters, so he is likely to have more fetishes and they will escalate.

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But many women enjoy putting on a strap on, or dominating men. Some like tying up their partner and making them watch them have sex with someone else. As long as they're not forcing themselves on anyone else, then it is harmless.

BodyKeepingScore · 10/03/2025 13:45

You should look on the Trans Widows website. Many of their stories echo yours here. Women who initially didn't see the harm in this, who wanted to support their partners.

This man has a paraphilia. Paraphilias tend to cluster. And they almost always escalate. Sissy porn is abhorrent. And centres on the degradation and humiliation of women. You need to leave this man because he is not a good one.

BodyKeepingScore · 10/03/2025 13:47

@TY78910 sexual activity that revolves around humiliation and degradation of someone else, even with consent, is not healthy or harmless.

NPET · 10/03/2025 13:49

OK I'm (only) 20 and probably not "knowledgeable" enough about men like that who are lucky enough to be in relationships with women.
But SURELY it's time to move on and find someone who spends his time appreciating YOU!

INeedAnotherName · 10/03/2025 13:53

I would say I'm now pretty depressed to be honest. I've lost any enjoyment in life

Your depression will miraculously lift once you've got rid of him. He's dragging you down.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 14:13

Thank you so much for your responses. As much as I am angry and hurt, I do nonetheless love him. Outside of this issue, he treats me extremely well, the best anybody else has treated me and we are so compatible in every other way. We bumble along nicely together.

I just cannot risk anymore of my time, I just feel it incredibly unlikely that I won"t find out something else down the road and simply cannot go through it again, but there us a part of me that wonders whether he really can just give it up, he insists it isn't something he needs and that he only wants me. He doesn't seem to grasp how much this has damaged my confidence, my self esteem, my identity as a woman.

I did try to leave him last year but he cut his neck and arms up, did a piss poor job of it, stating that the blade was blunt, to which I said well you didn't want to due that badly then. I told him what he had done was deeply manipulative and that he's effectively holding me hostage. He said he was in deep pain and it wasn't done to manipulate me. Sigh.

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LimeGoose · 10/03/2025 14:15

TY78910 · 10/03/2025 13:45

But many women enjoy putting on a strap on, or dominating men. Some like tying up their partner and making them watch them have sex with someone else. As long as they're not forcing themselves on anyone else, then it is harmless.

It’s not the same thing. Cross dressing men are often autogynephiles (turned on by the idea of themselves as women, which is linked to the idea of women as objects) and unfortunately this is driven by misogyny. Women wanting to peg men occasionally are not driven by misandry as a rule.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 14:18

To the poster that mentioned him not feeling he could tell me, you're absolutely right. im quite passionate and outspoken about my opinions on AGPs and how appalling it is they walk around among us wearing womens clothes whilst being turned on. He admitted he didn't tell me as he knew I would react badly and that he would have eventually shared it with me if I had created a safe space. Let's say thos is true which I very much doubt, I had the right to know what I was getting involved with. As much as I appreciate it's something he was deeply ashamed of and I feel awful at the thought of him feeling that way, I still had the tight to know so that I could make an informed decision as to whether or not I wanted to stay with him. To which the answer would have been a resounding no thank you.

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Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 14:21

I regards to the Sissy porn, I honestly believe he was getting off on the idea of it being him in one of those gimp suits, being submissive and having things 'done' to him rather than being the one 'doing'.

I didn't watch the videos, just saw the thumbnails to click on and it's not something I can say I'm overly familiar with. Any ex boyfriends I've had have had all fairly 'normal' tastes as far as I'm aware.

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JazzyJelly · 10/03/2025 14:21

Even ignoring the cross dressing, lying, and sexual incompatibility, him self-harming to keep you with him is reason enough to leave!

Xiaoxiong · 10/03/2025 14:22

Well, now you know, you can make an informed decision which must be that resounding "no thank you". That is 100% what to do for the best - for you, AND for him. He needs to be free to be with someone he can communicate with, as much as you need to be with someone who will respect you and not damage your self esteem as a woman.

Break yourself free from this relationship. It is for the best for you both.

BodyKeepingScore · 10/03/2025 14:24

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 14:13

Thank you so much for your responses. As much as I am angry and hurt, I do nonetheless love him. Outside of this issue, he treats me extremely well, the best anybody else has treated me and we are so compatible in every other way. We bumble along nicely together.

I just cannot risk anymore of my time, I just feel it incredibly unlikely that I won"t find out something else down the road and simply cannot go through it again, but there us a part of me that wonders whether he really can just give it up, he insists it isn't something he needs and that he only wants me. He doesn't seem to grasp how much this has damaged my confidence, my self esteem, my identity as a woman.

I did try to leave him last year but he cut his neck and arms up, did a piss poor job of it, stating that the blade was blunt, to which I said well you didn't want to due that badly then. I told him what he had done was deeply manipulative and that he's effectively holding me hostage. He said he was in deep pain and it wasn't done to manipulate me. Sigh.

OP, I get that you say you love him. But lying to you and then making threats and attempts on his own life when you try to leave is text book emotional abuse. This man is not “treating you well”…

BodyKeepingScore · 10/03/2025 14:24

@Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 please read the stories on this site. www.transwidowsvoices.org

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 10/03/2025 14:28

The thought of any middle aged man in tights and a butt plug really turns me off!

RUN!

Glitchymn1 · 10/03/2025 14:29

That would be a deal breaker for me, on so many levels. I couldn’t look him in the eye again, I’d be anxious what else he might get in to. It’s who he is, he’s going to keep doing it.

The self harming to keep you around is awful, he needs support to come to terms with who he is as it sounds like there’s more and he’s struggling. I mean professional support not for you to support him.

Mizztikle · 10/03/2025 14:29

I think you know what you need to do. If his lifestyle choices are not for you there's nothing you can do to change that. Its seems like you love him and think you probably wont find anyone else like him however, is it worth you mental health and wellbeing.
He needs to be honest with himself and find someone who is willing to accept his lifestyle.
Its terrible of him to try and guilt you into staying when you didn't agree to this in the beginning, He wont stop he will just find more creative ways to hide and lie.

Plastictreees · 10/03/2025 14:30

He’s obviously got severe psychological issues. Extricate yourself from this toxic web and be free.