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Cross dressing partner apparently given it up

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Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 13:21

Hi guys, I don't know if anyone remembers me from last year, whereby I posted about my partner being away for work staying in a hotel. I had my suspicions that he might be cheating so checked his laptop search history to find that he'd bid on a pair of stripper heels on Ebay and had googled where to buy female bodysuits in the area he was currently in.

Well, here I am, back again and desperately needing to vent/advice as I can't speak to anybody about it in real life and I'm feeling terrible about the whole thing. During the time I had that thread running (I eventually requested for it to be removed), posters on here were suggesting that the shoes were perhaps for him and not another woman. Well they were right.

It turns out that since he was 12 he had been experimenting with womens tights, bodysuits etc. When he had some time to himself he enjoyed doing cocaine and dressing in these types of clothes, as well as latex bodysuits.That night I found all of this in his history, rang him and confronted him about what I had found he was understandably embarassed and ashamed. He promised me not to tell anyone, hence why I had the thread removed.

The issue is that he of course said it's something he wouldn't do again. I remember my words at the time being somewhere along the lines of this is clearly a big part of who you are and I don't believe you can stop. Regardless, I continued the relationship but several months later, whilst washing the pots I looked up and noticed his keys on my key hook. At the time he was working over 2 hours away so I thought, sod it I'm going there to check.

I got on my bike and headed to his. As I mentioned last year we are on a family tracker, and as soon as I got close to his place, he rang me in a panic asking why I'm near his. I told him outright I'm going to see what's there. He was panicking so much he sounded like he was going to cry but I hung up and continued on, shaking and in fear of what I would find. Stupidly at this point I still believed it would be a womans clothes that he'd cheated on me with.

Got there, opened the door, bag of tights, rubber suit, female bodysuit the whole shebang, clearly been in a rush and put nothing away. Rubber suit had clearly been worn. In a frenzy, I biked home shaking and unfortunately subsequently had quite a bad accident whereby I bumped my head and needed an ambulance. A few days later was my 40th Birthday, myself, him and a few friends went into town but that got ruined as he spent the arse end of the night staring at any woman that happened to be wearing tights. Probably the worst week of my life and I've had some bad ones.

Anyway, as it was clear this was not something he could let go of, we arranged a city break away. I packed all the things I knew he'd like and we ended up having an evening with him in his tights, butt plug, restraints, the lot. He was nervous at first but very much enjoyed the evening. Tbh it did nothing for me but no particularly negative feelings.

The problem is I don't think I really realised how this would impact me. The manner in which I found out was bloody awful, quite frankly. His attitude was that I shouldn't have gone looking but I just knew in my gut something wasn't right. He often struggled to maintain erections and just never seemed to really WANT me iyswim. I never felt lusted after, he often turned down sex for reasons such as tiredness, stress etc.

To now. I am angry. I feel my right to make an informed decision having all the information presented to me was removed, although I do understand why he hid it from me. I feel unattractive (which objectively I don't think I am), I can't really explain why but I no longer feel feminine, like a woman. I've started making less of an effort with my appearance, I just don't really care anymore.

Anyway, we are now going round in circles. He swore a few months back that it would never happen again, to which obviously I don't believe, but he is insistent. My argument is I am now 40 years old, not old by any means but old enough to not have the time to be wasting on shit like this. He states he no longer needs it and it was something he only enjoyed doing whilst using drugs, which he doesn't do anymore. Essentially he is trying to make the argument that it was not at all a part of him but something drugs made him do. I'm not an idiot and I know this is unlikely the case.

I would say I'm now pretty depressed to be honest. I've lost any enjoyment in life, though I mask it well to outsiders.

On a few occasions I've drank too much wine and been incredibly nasty to him, belittling, mocking etc which he doesn't deserve as tbh other than this he has been the most patient, kind, caring boyfriend I have ever had. No excuse really but I believe I've done this to make him feel as crap as I'm left feeling. I feel at this point we would be better off separating but he says he adores me and doesn't want to break up, that it will never happen again.

Sorry for the long post and if you've got this far then thanks for reading. Any advice/experience with this would be greatly appreciated. Really don't know what to do for the best and at this point, sick of men really. There's always bloody something with them.

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Sharktoothgirl · 10/03/2025 18:38

Just dump him OP. You don’t have to think so deeply about it all. He’s into dressing as a woman (or a weird pornified parody of a woman) you find it weird and unsexy, you don’t think he’s even into you in the way you want a sexual partner to be. There doesn’t need to be a value judgement on it. You’re just not sexually compatible. End the relationship and don’t let yourself take on any blame or dwell on any fleeting feeling of guilt or inadequacy. It’s not your fault, it’s not his fault, it just is.

NowYouSee · 10/03/2025 18:43

How disappointing for you OP, this must be very hurtful and I wish you all the best in leaving him in the past, ignoring the inevitable woe is me he will spin.

I thought it was rather interesting that some posters have said variants of this:
”He will be better off with someone who shares his preferences”

I mean okay sure but this premise somewhat requires the existence of women who are actively into their male partner behaving like this. Going out on a limb here to suggest that pool isn’t exactly large.

VoltaireMittyDream · 10/03/2025 18:46

A man’s fetish will pretty much always take priority over anything and anyone else. He’ll never care as much about you as much as he does the butt plugs and tights. You’ll always feel shit and ugly and sexually neglected in this relationship.

He can be perfectly sexually and emotionally satisfied on his own, looking at himself in the mirror and watching porn.

This is not someone who can be the kind of partner you want.

Set yourself free, without guilt. You can be happy.

Sharktoothgirl · 10/03/2025 18:52

NowYouSee · 10/03/2025 18:43

How disappointing for you OP, this must be very hurtful and I wish you all the best in leaving him in the past, ignoring the inevitable woe is me he will spin.

I thought it was rather interesting that some posters have said variants of this:
”He will be better off with someone who shares his preferences”

I mean okay sure but this premise somewhat requires the existence of women who are actively into their male partner behaving like this. Going out on a limb here to suggest that pool isn’t exactly large.

That pool is probably very very shallow but it’s not OP’s problem. She owes him nothing. It doesn’t matter if he never meets a single woman who is interested in him ever again.

NowYouSee · 10/03/2025 19:03

Sharktoothgirl · 10/03/2025 18:52

That pool is probably very very shallow but it’s not OP’s problem. She owes him nothing. It doesn’t matter if he never meets a single woman who is interested in him ever again.

Of course this is not her problem and she absolutely should wave his sorry ass goodbye and ride off into the sunset.

I just find it amusing posts are implying there are plenty of women out there who would cheerfully sign up to this in all its gory technicolour detail. Because I don’t buy it.

TinyRebel · 10/03/2025 20:02

Watch the film by Vaishnavi Sundar (Lime Soda Films) called ‘Behind the Looking Glass’.
You are not alone and you do not have to put up with this.

pikkumyy77 · 10/03/2025 20:40

Of course she doesn’t have to put up with this! Who told her she should try to have a relationship with an on again off again coke addict who isn’t sexually attracted to her and who can’t even get it up for her? Why all this kink bashing? Who cares what this guy likes and who cares if there is, hypothetically, someone out there who would share his kink? The OP has to do some work on herself and why she is attracted to men like this—she reports that she never has had a good/healthy/ non abusive relationship so that this absurd one looked ok to her. That’s the problem.

BodyKeepingScore · 11/03/2025 07:43

TinyRebel · 10/03/2025 20:02

Watch the film by Vaishnavi Sundar (Lime Soda Films) called ‘Behind the Looking Glass’.
You are not alone and you do not have to put up with this.

Edited

I second this. I went to a screening of the movie followed by a q&a with Vaishnavi. It was illuminating

Naunet · 11/03/2025 15:26

I find men like this revolting and misogynistic, I couldn't be with one, it would be too much of a turn off. I can't believe one poster is still trying to convince us AGP isn't real, as if we don't have our own eyes and ear, and haven't seen them posting their revolting fetish all over the internet! Some of them like to dress up in a burka with stocking and suspenders underneath and really role play women's oppression to get themselves off. Sickening.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 11/03/2025 16:47

Update..I got home from work today and thought I'd check his tablet. Thought unlikely there will be anything on there but went through his emails and found basically what I can only describe as a gay erotica story.

The writer talks about himself in a gimp suit, heels, butt plugged etc which I knew he was into.

But then in walks fucking Alan and the writer, in all his gimp glory sucks off Alan. Longer and more graphic, but omfg what have I just read??!!

I'm so in shock right now. I've messaged saying what I've found and said we're over, he wants to talk, I imagine to talk me round again.

I am fucking disgusted, the last two years of my life have been a fucking lie.

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Sharktoothgirl · 11/03/2025 16:53

Don’t get drawn into a discussion about it. It’s understandable you feel lied to and that you find his desires disgusting. But it’s not something that talking to him about will help. Break up with him, tell him you have come to the conclusion you’re just not sexually compatible and that you’re not interested in discussing it further. Wish him well if you’re feeling magnanimous and then move on with your life without him in it.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 11/03/2025 16:57

I tried to break up with him earlier on the year and he kept calling, messaging and eventually turned up at my house. He will do the same tonight, turn up. What the fuck do I do??

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Naunet · 11/03/2025 16:58

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 11/03/2025 16:57

I tried to break up with him earlier on the year and he kept calling, messaging and eventually turned up at my house. He will do the same tonight, turn up. What the fuck do I do??

Tell him to show you a ounce of respect and to leave you the fuck alone. Don't let him manipulate you back into a situation that is making you so stressed and unhappy.

NowYouSee · 11/03/2025 17:09

Personally I would send him a clear message via text or WhatsApp that the relationship is over and you want no further contact, further contact will be viewed as harassment and if necessary you will call the police. If you have any things tell him you will courier them over.

teawamutu · 11/03/2025 17:10

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 11/03/2025 16:57

I tried to break up with him earlier on the year and he kept calling, messaging and eventually turned up at my house. He will do the same tonight, turn up. What the fuck do I do??

You tell him it's over, you want no further contact and if he won't leave you alone you'll be reporting it to the police as harassment.

I'm really sorry, OP. He sounds revolting.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 11/03/2025 17:21

thank you so much everyone xx

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BodyKeepingScore · 11/03/2025 17:25

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 11/03/2025 16:57

I tried to break up with him earlier on the year and he kept calling, messaging and eventually turned up at my house. He will do the same tonight, turn up. What the fuck do I do??

You hold the line. You tell him it's definitely over and that you will call the police if he turns up at your home. Similarly if he intimates to you that he is going to harm himself, tell you will also call emergency services and they will engage with him, not you.

Daleksatemyshed · 11/03/2025 17:25

I'm afraid that it's a fetish Op so no matter what he says he's always going to want this as part of a relationship, he may be able to keep it secret but it won't go away. He may well really care for you but you have every right to break up with him just as you do with any man. Tell him it's over then block him, if he can't contact you then he can't emotionally blackmail you into getting back with him. Don't forget social media as well as phone.

Starlight7080 · 11/03/2025 17:44

You are not responsible for his actions . So don't feel guilty for whatever he does if you spilt up.
He obviously has mental health problems and I doubt he has quit the drugs .
He also sounds like he is gay . Maybe he doesn't want to admit to himself or others .

Partybaggage · 11/03/2025 18:23

Why are you going through his tablet? You already know the relationship is dead in the water, so infringing his privacy really wasn't necessary.

What do you do when he turns up? Put all his stuff in binbags outside the front door and lock it. No discussion necessary.

sadnesscomesagain · 11/03/2025 18:43

From someone who found out that her husband of 24 years was a crossdresser, I can say that the trauma has affected me hugely. We've been divorced for 9 years but it still disturbs me. I have recurrent dreams about him, find building relationships with potential partners hard and despite copious amounts of therapy and a lot of work on myself, the anger and humiliation is still as fresh as the day I found out.
His feelings will never go away and you will always be someone he hides behind, simply to look 'normal' for the rest of society.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 11/03/2025 19:35

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 10/03/2025 14:13

Thank you so much for your responses. As much as I am angry and hurt, I do nonetheless love him. Outside of this issue, he treats me extremely well, the best anybody else has treated me and we are so compatible in every other way. We bumble along nicely together.

I just cannot risk anymore of my time, I just feel it incredibly unlikely that I won"t find out something else down the road and simply cannot go through it again, but there us a part of me that wonders whether he really can just give it up, he insists it isn't something he needs and that he only wants me. He doesn't seem to grasp how much this has damaged my confidence, my self esteem, my identity as a woman.

I did try to leave him last year but he cut his neck and arms up, did a piss poor job of it, stating that the blade was blunt, to which I said well you didn't want to due that badly then. I told him what he had done was deeply manipulative and that he's effectively holding me hostage. He said he was in deep pain and it wasn't done to manipulate me. Sigh.

I did try to leave him last year but he cut his neck and arms up, did a piss poor job of it, stating that the blade was blunt, to which I said well you didn't want to due that badly then. I told him what he had done was deeply manipulative and that he's effectively holding me hostage. He said he was in deep pain and it wasn't done to manipulate me. Sigh.

I was going to tell you to leave, but this cemented it. This is deeply abusive and manipulative behaviour.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 11/03/2025 19:37

Phone the police if he turns up and harasses you. His past behaviour suggests he could be volatile.

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