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Am I doing the right thing believing him?

107 replies

Swiftkitty · 10/03/2025 07:35

I say believing him...I really mean, taking his word for it and trying to get past the hurt and nagging doubt.

We've been together for two years but it's been fairly casual. Not intentionally; he wants more and always has but I'm not in the right head space to be getting into a serious relationship.

Around two weeks ago we slept together. We were 'together' at that point but the following week I ended things, over a few things from the past playing on my mind and my doubt that I can give him a 'proper' relationship. This has happened before and we usually get through it. After a few days I realise I still care and can't be without him etc.

Anyway. This time, we had a bit of a row and I said some things that upset him (he's a people pleaser and I called him weak, snapped at him for "going on" about his hayfever when really he was just being chatty but I over reacted).

I then blocked him. Again, done before as it's the only way I can stop myself contacting him and he knows this.

On the Saturday he dropped some flowers outside my door with a note asking to talk, which I ignored.

The following Friday we got talking again. I didn't know what I wanted at this point but he was saying he still felt I'd been the love of his life, wanted to try again, etc.

We carried on talking via text message and then I mentioned something about his social awkwardness (which he admits he suffers with). He then told me that he'd joined an app and started talking to someone to check he isn't as 'weird' as I seem to think he is.
Obviously I knew the someone was a woman, he admitted it was and it transpired that he had joined an app called BeFriend (so not tinder or anything obvious dating app), swiped and matched on a few people and this one matched him back. This was on the Thursday, so the day before we got talking again and five days after he'd left the flowers at my door :/

He told me she had asked to come off the app and onto WhatsApp but swore it was just intended as friends and he was "using her as a science experiment" to practice social skills, conversation and see if this woman flagged him up as weird or not. He said the conversation seemed to be going well so either he was normal or she was being overly nice to him for no reason. I got upset and asked to see the conversations and he did show me.

It looked an easy, comfortable conversation... he started off by making a joke about wanting to say "how you doing?" Like Joey from Friends, she laughed and said he could if he wants to, he said he liked her nose ring and wanted a tattoo himself one day, she thanked him and said it hurt as she's such a baby and "maybe now is your time to get one" meaning a tattoo...his reply was "I saw the word baby and maybe now is your time to get one and thought, hold on love, that's a bit fast 🫣😆", to which her reply was she's in no rush as she already has two. He also asked if she had a partner (he says as he isn't what to tread on anyone's toes) and said he was divorced after two years of separation but didn't mention the year long relationship with me after the separation, which I found weird if he only wants friends. She also sent him photos of her children on WhatsApp and they talked for a couple of hours every evening. When I went to see him on Saturday (after I'd found out about all this) he was still in the middle of a whatsapp chat with her. Anyway I basically told him to block and delete her and come off the app and he did.

He now wants to try again properly, saying she was genuinely just a friends thing and to see if he can still talk to people.

I know we technically weren't together when he 'met' her but it hurts a fair bit and I keep thinking about although he was blocked, clearly I can't mean very much to him if he wasn't thinking about me the whole three days he was messaging her.

He seemed convincing when he was talking about not fancying her, not being interested in a relationship or dating and it was purely friends.

Should I even care, as we technically weren't together at the time?

OP posts:
FortyElephants · 10/03/2025 07:44

You need to stop treating him so poorly then reeling him back in again after you've dumped him. Your behaviour is emotionally abusive. I wouldn't blame him for looking elsewhere, you're fucking with his head.

Dery · 10/03/2025 07:44

Actually, OP - I think you should cut him loose. Not for your sake but for his. It sounds like you treat him pretty badly, saying mean things, blowing hot and cold, dumping him, blocking him and then wanting him again. You can’t seem to see it - you describe your behaviour with apparently no insight into how it sounds - but that’s a poor way to treat someone. If this was his behaviour you were describing, we would be telling you to walk away. Let him find someone who wants a proper relationship with him and isn’t a mindfuck.

AgentJohnson · 10/03/2025 07:46

You are not in the right headspace to be in a relationship. If you really truly care for this guy then let him go to pursue friendships/ relationships with people who are in the right headspace.

Whatever your issues are, work on them and the very destructive cycle you are in.

GreyCarpet · 10/03/2025 07:46

There so much to unpack here.

So I'll just say this. He asked this woman if she has a partner because he didn't want to step on anyone's toes but he has a partner and isn't worried about stepping on yours.

A lot of attraction and relationships start out as friendship so, even if he just sees her as a 'friend' to practice his social skills on now, he is already getting positive feedback from this interaction.

He is open and ready for a relationship but you are not. He is seeking an emotional connection and you are literally blocking this.

Blocking and ignoring him are abusive behaviours. My personal feeling is that you should end this relationship, get therapy to understand why you are responding like this and work on your emotional regulation.

This situation is not healthy for either of you.

CaptainMyCaptain · 10/03/2025 07:47

FortyElephants · 10/03/2025 07:44

You need to stop treating him so poorly then reeling him back in again after you've dumped him. Your behaviour is emotionally abusive. I wouldn't blame him for looking elsewhere, you're fucking with his head.

Admittedly I only skimmed through the post but you should do him a favour and leave him.

Mizzi · 10/03/2025 07:47

Sorry but this is all on you.

You're pissing him about then getting mad at him for looking at other options? He's made it clear he wants to be with you and you keep blocking and dumping him!

Stop stringing the poor guy along.

Either commit 100% or let him move on with someone else!

AtrociousCircumstance · 10/03/2025 07:49

Poor guy. Let him get on with his life.

Sparkletastic · 10/03/2025 07:49

You are behaving really badly. Let him go.

GreyCarpet · 10/03/2025 07:50

I've just reread. You ignored him for a whole week?

If someone I was in a casual relationship with blew hot and cold me me and criticised me and ignored me for a whole week, I'd be looking elsewhere too, tbh.

User5274959 · 10/03/2025 07:52

Poor bloke. You're treating him appallingly borderline abusive. He clearly has poor self esteem and needs to break free of you.

Jolpie · 10/03/2025 07:55

I also think you are being unfair on this guy and causing him a lot of confusion. You can’t earmark someone as off market just in case you keep changing your mind. I do agree there is an element here of emotional abuse, from you, not from him, and you need to take stock and think about how you would feel if this was the other way around. He doesn’t owe you anything and I can’t believe his self esteem is this low that he keeps going back to you or even wants to talk to you. Leave him and work on yourself and let him go

MrsSorryNotSorry · 10/03/2025 07:56

Echoing what everybody else has said.

You're treating him really badly and messing with his head. How long until you decide you don't want this again and put him through it again?

Let him go, for his own well-being. He doesn't deserve this!

Jolpie · 10/03/2025 07:59

I just re read the OP and I do feel sorry for him, he thinks he is a weirdo (as you have put him down over and over and made him feel bad about himself), so tries to make a friend and you then force him to block the new friend? It’s really cruel. You are not a nice person and you are just using him for your own ego.

HowardTJMoon · 10/03/2025 08:00

Clearly he can't mean very much to you if you keep playing these mindfuck games on him. When you repeatedly do through the cycle of insulting him, dumping him and blocking him what is your goal? "I hate you but don't leave me" is an abusers mindset. What makes you think it's an acceptable way to treat another person?

I strongly recommend you get some therapy to unpack why you're behaving like this.

TwistedWonder · 10/03/2025 08:03

So many red flags and not from him

Stop playing games and using him when it suits you and set him free to find someone who isn’t a manipulative abuser and get yourself into therapy to work on how not to treat people like shit.

Namechangetheyarewatching · 10/03/2025 08:08

You messed him around, he looked elsewhere.

Just cut him loose

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 10/03/2025 08:09

Do you feel heard in your relationship? I unfortunately can see a few previous behaviors of mine in you in a specific relationship but it was an abusive relationship and deep down I knew it was wrong. If I raised anything at all I was in the wrong and it ended with him accusing me of breaking up with him. So much gaslighting going on. He had me that I didn't know which way was up. Then the lovebombing would start, the flowers, no apologies just telling me he'd forgive me because he wanted to be with me so much blah blah blah. He cheated on me and it was my fault for us ending because I wanted to talk about things only that was stressing him out so I said I'd back off.

Really think hard about what is triggering this behavior in yourself, is it because you are permanently in flight or fight mode and if so why. People in healthy relationships don't behave the way you are doing.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 10/03/2025 08:10

One never gets unanimity on Mumsnet @Swiftkitty , so whatever the reasons for your behaviour and whatever else he has done (I can hear your justifications forming) this is horribly unhealthy for both of you but the behaviour you have described is emotional abuse by you to him. End it, block him then delete his number and get some therapy for your own sake

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 10/03/2025 08:11

You sound like a delight!

What have you done to this man.

babytum · 10/03/2025 08:17

Your behaviour toward this man is absolutely appalling.
For his sake finish this thing, because it’s certainly not a relationship, for good before you completely destroy him

SallyWD · 10/03/2025 08:20

You're treating him terribly. You're constantly criticising his personality and picking him to pieces. You ignore him. You're abusive. He shouldn't get back together with you.

glitterturd · 10/03/2025 08:22

When someone says they have joined an app to find out if they are as "weird" as you are suggesting that goes to show the detrimental effect you are having on their mental health! Leave this poor man alone and stop messing with him.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 10/03/2025 08:23

Stop dicking him around and cut him loose. You need to separate your genuine feelings about him and the relationship from your reflexive jealousy because there’s a whiff of someone else being interested.

The whole dynamic is messed up and you’re obviously not ready to commit to a relationship - two years is a long time to be on/off/on/off and still not sure what you want.

Dery · 10/03/2025 08:30

@Swiftkitty - if your OP was real, I suspect the responses will have come as a surprise to you since you clearly had no insight into how toxic your behaviour is. Perhaps you’re very young. But it doesn’t matter why you’re behaving the way you are (abusive people always blame others for their shitty behaviour), but you should cut this guy loose and do some serious work on yourself (ideally therapy) before you do more harm to him and before you try getting into any more relationships.

He could also do with therapy because he has been so willing to accept crumbs from you and imagines that makes you the love of his life. So there’s some unhealthy relationship programming he also needs to get over. But not with you. With a therapist.

DaniMontyRae · 10/03/2025 08:42

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 10/03/2025 08:09

Do you feel heard in your relationship? I unfortunately can see a few previous behaviors of mine in you in a specific relationship but it was an abusive relationship and deep down I knew it was wrong. If I raised anything at all I was in the wrong and it ended with him accusing me of breaking up with him. So much gaslighting going on. He had me that I didn't know which way was up. Then the lovebombing would start, the flowers, no apologies just telling me he'd forgive me because he wanted to be with me so much blah blah blah. He cheated on me and it was my fault for us ending because I wanted to talk about things only that was stressing him out so I said I'd back off.

Really think hard about what is triggering this behavior in yourself, is it because you are permanently in flight or fight mode and if so why. People in healthy relationships don't behave the way you are doing.

I'm sorry that happened to you but please stop making excuses for the OPs abusive behaviour. She's not the victim here. And the only thing that is making this relationship unhealthy is the OP herself. Saying people don't act that way in healthy relationships is making excuses for her abusive ways. Would you excuse your abusive ex in the same way and put the blame on yourself (the victim)? I really hope not.

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