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Am I doing the right thing believing him?

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Swiftkitty · 10/03/2025 07:35

I say believing him...I really mean, taking his word for it and trying to get past the hurt and nagging doubt.

We've been together for two years but it's been fairly casual. Not intentionally; he wants more and always has but I'm not in the right head space to be getting into a serious relationship.

Around two weeks ago we slept together. We were 'together' at that point but the following week I ended things, over a few things from the past playing on my mind and my doubt that I can give him a 'proper' relationship. This has happened before and we usually get through it. After a few days I realise I still care and can't be without him etc.

Anyway. This time, we had a bit of a row and I said some things that upset him (he's a people pleaser and I called him weak, snapped at him for "going on" about his hayfever when really he was just being chatty but I over reacted).

I then blocked him. Again, done before as it's the only way I can stop myself contacting him and he knows this.

On the Saturday he dropped some flowers outside my door with a note asking to talk, which I ignored.

The following Friday we got talking again. I didn't know what I wanted at this point but he was saying he still felt I'd been the love of his life, wanted to try again, etc.

We carried on talking via text message and then I mentioned something about his social awkwardness (which he admits he suffers with). He then told me that he'd joined an app and started talking to someone to check he isn't as 'weird' as I seem to think he is.
Obviously I knew the someone was a woman, he admitted it was and it transpired that he had joined an app called BeFriend (so not tinder or anything obvious dating app), swiped and matched on a few people and this one matched him back. This was on the Thursday, so the day before we got talking again and five days after he'd left the flowers at my door :/

He told me she had asked to come off the app and onto WhatsApp but swore it was just intended as friends and he was "using her as a science experiment" to practice social skills, conversation and see if this woman flagged him up as weird or not. He said the conversation seemed to be going well so either he was normal or she was being overly nice to him for no reason. I got upset and asked to see the conversations and he did show me.

It looked an easy, comfortable conversation... he started off by making a joke about wanting to say "how you doing?" Like Joey from Friends, she laughed and said he could if he wants to, he said he liked her nose ring and wanted a tattoo himself one day, she thanked him and said it hurt as she's such a baby and "maybe now is your time to get one" meaning a tattoo...his reply was "I saw the word baby and maybe now is your time to get one and thought, hold on love, that's a bit fast 🫣😆", to which her reply was she's in no rush as she already has two. He also asked if she had a partner (he says as he isn't what to tread on anyone's toes) and said he was divorced after two years of separation but didn't mention the year long relationship with me after the separation, which I found weird if he only wants friends. She also sent him photos of her children on WhatsApp and they talked for a couple of hours every evening. When I went to see him on Saturday (after I'd found out about all this) he was still in the middle of a whatsapp chat with her. Anyway I basically told him to block and delete her and come off the app and he did.

He now wants to try again properly, saying she was genuinely just a friends thing and to see if he can still talk to people.

I know we technically weren't together when he 'met' her but it hurts a fair bit and I keep thinking about although he was blocked, clearly I can't mean very much to him if he wasn't thinking about me the whole three days he was messaging her.

He seemed convincing when he was talking about not fancying her, not being interested in a relationship or dating and it was purely friends.

Should I even care, as we technically weren't together at the time?

OP posts:
VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 11/03/2025 16:45

Swiftkitty · 11/03/2025 16:38

To my mind, all he ever had to do was commit fully to me and not have one foot out the door.

But no... He told his ex wife that he left me for her (which was a lie he told to hurt her and I didn't realise he'd said), then decided to deny we were actually together and said we were just friends, leading her to text and phone me looking for answers, then when I picked up the phone to her she told me a bunch of things be hadn't told me about, like going for meals with her after he'd been over there doing DIY jobs (the DIY I did know about), having showers over there, cooking for her, basically acting like they were still married but apparently without the sex, all this while he was telling me that she had abused him for the last few years of the marriage - but then he retracted that, eventually admitting that he'd 'gone along with' everyone thinking that she was abusive but in reality - he actually said she had been! We didn't start thinking it until he said it! He randomly told me once that he thought one of his female friends fancied him and then let me know everytime she stayed at his other friends house (where he was living) and that she offered to cook for him, told me once how mortified and uncomfortable he was with what she'd written in his birthday card then sent me a photo as 'proof' (which I didn't ask for), it just said "to M, happy birthday! love R xxx"

There have been so many things where he has planted seeds of doubt or asked my advice what do do about his ex wife who wanted him back then ignored that advice and did whatever the hell he wanted anyway, which was basically lead her on, that now ... I've lost the ability to ignore and move on from it.

And yes I should've blocked a long time ago but I miss him when he's not around. I really do. But he's bad for me and I'm obviously bad for him.

Honestly, you both sound like you've behaved dreadfully to each other over the years. You surely must realise that no matter what changes now, too much shit has already passed under the bridge to have a good relationship with this man.

So tell him again it's over. And block him again. And this time keep him blocked, because it's the only possible way you'll ever stop hurting each other.

EG94 · 11/03/2025 17:10

Swiftkitty · 11/03/2025 15:26

What's wrong with how I spoke to him? He's crying because I'm annoyed that he chatted up another woman while he was telling me I was the "only one" for him and won't believe his BS that he was conducting a "science experiment", as he put it. I'd have had more respect for the man if he had told the truth, that he wanted a bit of a flirt with someone.

He chose to message and tell me that he'd signed up to an app and talk to this woman...he didn't actually need to tell me, did he? So it feels like he tried to make me jealous to be fair. Am I not allowed to be annoyed and hurt?

Plus I've known him 20 years...no need for airs and graces around him I don't think. He didn't like it when he ex-wife told him some home truths either and accused her of 'bullying' him, same as he's saying to me.

Edited

ok if that’s what you believe you’re unlikely to get anywhere. Sometimes we have to look at our own behaviour too. You told the man you don’t want him now upset he went elsewhere?!

he isn’t crying is he? He doesn’t understand your annoyance as you’ve rejected him so many times.

blocking unblocking it’s toxic childish and unhealthy if you don’t want him, as you say you don’t, leave him alone. Block him permanently

not difficult

Jolpie · 11/03/2025 19:17

You keep taking him back which is why he keeps trying. One or both of you is getting something out of this for an ego, the thrill of the chase. He likes chasing you, you like to be chased.

The whole thing is dreadful and neither of you sound like good relationship material. You keep posting like he has some kind of spell over you and it’s not your fault and it’s all him. It isn’t, it’s also you

you block him
then never unblock him
this is how that works

Dery · 12/03/2025 08:13

@Swiftkitty - the more you explain the worse it sounds. It’s a huge mess. Neither of you seem to have a clue what healthy love is. You’ve admitted that you entertained inappropriate conversations with him while he was married - that was wrong and has come back to bite you. You can’t trust him because he’s proven time and again he’s not to be trusted. He can’t trust you because you endlessly jerk him around. At some level, this immature drama seems to tick boxes for you both - probably you’re both scared of true intimacy and prefer this shitshow. There’s no way you can have a relationship with this guy, or just be friends. Draw a line and walk away for both your sakes.

pinkyredrose · 14/03/2025 13:05

Stop messing this guy around, leave him alone and let him find a meaningful relationship with someone that gives a shit about him.

Normallynumb · 14/03/2025 18:57

Stop messing him about. If this is how you treat potential relationships then you need therapy

TwistedWonder · 14/03/2025 19:00

Thing is this is one of those threads where if it was in AIBU and it was 99% YABU the OP would only take notice of the 1% who agreed with her and continually argue why she’s right.

Until the OP accepts her own accountability in
this shit show then nothing will change.

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