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Partner snoring Sleep deprivation help!

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Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 04:25

This is probably a rant but I need to offload and share before I can think about going back to sleep.
My partner snores.
it is extremely loud to the point where he can’t stay at mine when the kids are home because it keeps them awake.
when it’s just us I often ask him to sleep downstairs.
i really struggle with insomnia and once I’m woken up it’s really hard to get back to sleep, especially because I’m subconsciously on tenterhooks awaiting the next big sound.
he also does weird chokes sounds and stops breathing.
this is most nights but there’s occasionally quieter ones.
his dad has a history of heart attacks and I’ve read that sleep apnoea can exacerbate risk.

i feel really stressed and upset when I can’t sleep, I also have several coexisting health conditions, physical and neurological.
he is often tired but he is not bothered by his own snoring.

he once mentioned it to his gp but the gp said if my partner isnt bothered by it then he doesn’t need referral to sleep clinic.

i asked him to download a snoring app which he has used once.
It recorded disturbed sleep and really high decibels (I can’t remember the number but it registered as very loud).
he sleeps like the dead and is always out like a light.

i use earplugs, white noise, podcasts, various sleeping tablets etc, to try and cancel out the noise , sometimes all at once but he also physically rumbles at times and is quite lively in his sleep and finds my various sounds annoying.
i don’t feel there’s anymore compromise I can make.

this means our nights together are infrequent which I find hard and struggle to see how we can progress our relationship if we can’t sleep together most nights.

i rarely stay at his house as he has housemates and it’s not so relaxing or private but i stayed tonight for a change of scene for me, constant hosting is also a ballache.

he was ready to sleep early and he fell asleep straight into snoring and I struggled to fall asleep until about 1 or 2am, partly because of the noise but every time I dropped off I’d be woken up by another big snore or choke, I laid there for ages trying to get back off but by 230 I was wide awake and on the verge of tears.

i didn’t want to sleep on the sofa as I knew one housemate was at party and I had no idea when he might roll in and whether he’d go straight to the lounge and I had no idea what the other one’s plans were so felt if I slept on the sofa I’d still be on eggshells expecting to get woken up.

I couldn’t get a taxi as none available due to clubs kicking out time and had to wake him for his house keys so I could get out and lock up again.

he didn’t wake properly but offered to drive me home, he looked completely out of it and I thought it would be a hassle for him to drive , plus unfair and probably unsafe, plus it was my decision to leave.

I was so desperate to get out and come home to bed so I said I’ll walk into town and get a taxi there, he sort of insisted but at the same time was half asleep and laid back down put his headphones back on and was asleep before I even left his bedroom.

i walked into town feeling quite nervous and a bit stupid and nervous in case something sinister happened but I got to the taxi rank and got home in one piece.
obviously he is fast asleep so hasn’t checked i got home ok which has pissed me off a bit because I feel he could have at least done that if he wasn’t physically up to the task of driving, despite offering .
I feel upset that he’s asleep with no knowledge of whether I am home safe and I’m aware that might sound diva-ish but it’s how I feel after half an hour sleep and having been up since 530 the day before

Ive just got home now and am quite upset, I think because I have said so many times in so many ways how this snoring is affecting me, the kids don’t like it and I am genuinely worried about his health.

i have medical ptsd because of my own experiences and things that were overlooked etc.

so i don’t know how to progress.
i
don’t see how we can ever live together in future (we’ve been together nearly two years)
he says it never bothered his wife because he mainly worked night shifts when they were together for over twenty years

He has talked about buying a cpap online but they’re prescription only as far as I know, he doesn’t remember to use the snoring app and also uses his phone to listen to headphones through the night so the snore app doesn’t work alongside it (I think he said)

theres only so many times i can ask him to get referral to sleep clinic or to even monitor his snoring.

i have several (women) friends who use cpap and really rate it , I don’t know for sure he has sleep apnoea but everything I’ve seen and heard from him and what I’ve read all matches up.
he also has hiatus hernia so not sure if that’s affecting his sleep and breathing .

hes clearly not bothered and I feel like we’re at an impasse.
I love him and want to be together but I’m fed up with this and it’s making me feel sad. And stressed and it’s definitely affecting my health and my mental and emotional wellbeing

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Sevenwondersofthewoo · 21/12/2024 05:09

He needs to go back to the gp and get that referral plus tell him his snoring is affecting your sleep. I feel your pain as mines a snorer too but I have a separate bedroom to him now and the peace is well……

if he won’t go and sort this I’d be looking at the relationship as a whole and wonder why I’m in it

wrped · 21/12/2024 06:19

you said hes a heavy sleeper and you chose to leave at that time of the morning

what a ridiculous post

Chocaholic1216 · 21/12/2024 07:07

This would be a dealbreaker for me unless he was trying to be proactive to sort it out

DancefloorAcrobatics · 21/12/2024 07:14

I second deal beaker.

If he's not bothered about the effect that the snoring and subsequent sleep deprivation has, he doesn't care enough about you.
Plus, he's obviously not bothered about his own health either... what else is he not bothered about?

pickywatermelon · 21/12/2024 07:19

My DH used to snore really badly

To the point that I would have done something semi ridiculous like you describe out of sleep deprived desperation

Thankfully he went to the GP and got a referral to the sleep clinic - they mainly told him - lose weight. He did lose at least 4-5kg minimum and it did make a difference

He also spent a bunch of time investigating better pillows which also helped

He also doesn’t mind sleeping in the spare room / me rolling him on his side

So mainly - it can be awful - but if he’s not interested in solving it - then I understand completely why it’s a deal breaker

Opentooffers · 21/12/2024 08:04

How long have you been seeing him and when did you discover it? It is a valid dealbreaker. No need at all to carry on seeing him under the circumstances. It sounds that bad it's a wonder why you have persisted at all?

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 09:19

Thanks all for replies I appreciate the perspectives as it’s hard to know when you’re in the situation sometimes, is it justified to complain?
it may seem ridiculous to that one poster but when you’re exhausted and sleep deprived and disappointed and upset you might do stupid things, I just wanted to sleep! And staying there was like literal torture wide awake listening to that racket

he has tried to contact me this morning asking if I’m home safe, slightly pointless asking hours after I left , if no apology or offer to pursue this referral I will be incredibly disappointed .

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flakesofcorn · 21/12/2024 09:21

Silicone earplugs from Boots are a game changer.

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 09:23

You can live together, you just need a 2 bed house. Me and my husband sleep in separate rooms and it is BLISS!!!!

olderbutwiser · 21/12/2024 09:30

There are several concerns here

  • He doesn’t take care of his health. He has sleep apnea, which puts him at risk of heart attacks, high blood pressure etc not to mention falling asleep at the wheel and killing himself or someone else
  • He is happy to ignore your concerns or advice about his health
  • He doesn’t realise how much of an impact this has on you OR
  • He doesn’t care how much of an impact this has on you

Do you really want to tie your and your kids future to his?

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 09:37

Opentooffers · 21/12/2024 08:04

How long have you been seeing him and when did you discover it? It is a valid dealbreaker. No need at all to carry on seeing him under the circumstances. It sounds that bad it's a wonder why you have persisted at all?

Obviously I discovered it straight away.
its not every night and we are spending less and less nights together .
He lost a lot of weight and periodically stopped smoking and started eating better and in that time had the gp appointment, bought the snore app etc so incrementally it felt like he was making changes and a lot of the time he stays at mine sleeps in another room but having nowhere else to go last night I guess me and my walking home in the early hours really brought it home

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Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 09:46

flakesofcorn · 21/12/2024 09:21

Silicone earplugs from Boots are a game changer.

I have ALL the earplugs, I’ve tried the eye masks with integral headphones but too uncomfortable . I usually have something playing by my head and white noise on the echo dot plus earplugs and I can still hear him and sometimes he complains about the noise I’m making!
it’s heartbreaking and I think it’s partly because his gp was just dismissive that he isn’t bothered about pursuing it.
one of those things, people who take doctors at their word.

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Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 09:48

olderbutwiser · 21/12/2024 09:30

There are several concerns here

  • He doesn’t take care of his health. He has sleep apnea, which puts him at risk of heart attacks, high blood pressure etc not to mention falling asleep at the wheel and killing himself or someone else
  • He is happy to ignore your concerns or advice about his health
  • He doesn’t realise how much of an impact this has on you OR
  • He doesn’t care how much of an impact this has on you

Do you really want to tie your and your kids future to his?

He definitely knows the impact it has but he’s not doing anything about it because he sleeps solidly so he doesn’t get that it’s an issue, I guess he’s happy with the compromise of not spending many nights with me or sleeping in different rooms at mine when space allows.

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whathaveiforgotten · 21/12/2024 09:48

he once mentioned it to his gp but the gp said if my partner isnt bothered by it then he doesn’t need referral to sleep clinic.

He's either bothered enough about your relationship to at least try to proactively look into his snoring (e.g. seeing the doctor again as clearly they will refer to sleep clinic if he has a partner bothered by it) or he isn't.

The latter is true. He doesn't care enough about you or the relationship to at least try to improve this.

After two years that's disappointing and a sign you shouldn't invest any more time in the relationship tbh.

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 09:49

And the doctor has not said it’s sleep apnoea, it’s only me saying it because I believe that’s what it is 😞

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TwilightCat · 21/12/2024 09:51

I have been in your shoes and it was hell. The only thing that worked was significant weight loss, which has worked a charm! The vast majority of the time it is weight related. I know you said he’s lost a lot of weight but if he’s still overweight then he needs to lose more.

romdowa · 21/12/2024 09:52

It took years for my husband to go to the gp about his snoring , eventually I told him he had to go or he had to get out cus I couldn't cope with the noise. He has sleep apnea and now has a cpap machine and the snoring has completely stopped . It's bliss

ruddygreattiger · 21/12/2024 09:59

I'll second the above posters that say to end it.
He obviously thinks his sleep is more important than yours and that you can function on a couple of hours of very broken sleep.
I've been where you are and you are completely wasting your time with him.

The sheer rage I felt lying there in the early hours with him snoring like a train....

He very obviously does have sleep apneoa but simply can't be arsed to deal with it, that is not someone to build a relationship with if it keeps you and your children awake.

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 10:03

romdowa · 21/12/2024 09:52

It took years for my husband to go to the gp about his snoring , eventually I told him he had to go or he had to get out cus I couldn't cope with the noise. He has sleep apnea and now has a cpap machine and the snoring has completely stopped . It's bliss

I have lots of friends who use cpap and say it’s a game changer. I’m glad it’s helped you and others on this post.
he has said this morning he will go back to the doctor, and it didn’t feel real last night he thought it was a dream, this is how deeply he sleeps I would never want him to drive me in that state and in my mind it was imperative to just get home and sleep.
i haven’t had enough sleep now but I have chronic pain and unless I’m fast asleep I can’t lie down for any length of time awake because it makes the pain worse.
im so pissed off, I need this weekend to sort Christmas as have been so ill the last few months, last night was meant to be a break for me and a romantic date night which had him falling asleep by 930, asleep at ten and me in my pretty date night lingerie feeling like a right old muppet.
I was so excited for staying Simewjere different and having dinner cooked for me and being away from all my chores etc now I’m just overtired and upset.
im also neurodivergent which is probably exacerbating the feelings but walking home and him not even calling me or anything just completely out of it was depressing.
he does work very early in the morning so I can’t really complain he was shattered but the whole thing is disappointing.

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CoffeePlantation · 21/12/2024 10:04

It certainly sounds like he's got sleep apnoea. If his doctor is dismissing this, then I would make sure he asks to be referred to another one. A cpap (?) machine will help for sure, as will weight loss and side sleeping.

OP, have you tried Loop Earplugs? My partner snores (although nothing like yours!) and I find these great. I use the Loop Quiet Plus (they come with double seal tips and the original so you can try both). They're amazing. There is no earplug on earth that will block out the sound entirely, but these are really great and much comfier and easier to use than the foam ones.

I have a 15% off discount code if you (or anyone) would like to use it. rwrd.io/7ovbmde?c

They're a bit expensive, but honestly they are a godsend. They offer a 100 day money back guarentee.

I'm noise sensitive so have a few pairs. I use them on the train, in the office and in the car with my children who constantly argue and bicker. Even in noisy restaurants.

I know how distressing the snoring and any unwanted noise in general can be. I hope you manage to get him to sort it out, otherwise I would be leaving.

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 10:04

ruddygreattiger · 21/12/2024 09:59

I'll second the above posters that say to end it.
He obviously thinks his sleep is more important than yours and that you can function on a couple of hours of very broken sleep.
I've been where you are and you are completely wasting your time with him.

The sheer rage I felt lying there in the early hours with him snoring like a train....

He very obviously does have sleep apneoa but simply can't be arsed to deal with it, that is not someone to build a relationship with if it keeps you and your children awake.

‘The sheer rage’ yes this exactly, it’s fucking horrible, especially when I add in the cacophony of other noises on top to drown his out
what did you do? I feel like a cunt reacting like this to his health issue when I have so many of my own

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romdowa · 21/12/2024 10:06

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 10:03

I have lots of friends who use cpap and say it’s a game changer. I’m glad it’s helped you and others on this post.
he has said this morning he will go back to the doctor, and it didn’t feel real last night he thought it was a dream, this is how deeply he sleeps I would never want him to drive me in that state and in my mind it was imperative to just get home and sleep.
i haven’t had enough sleep now but I have chronic pain and unless I’m fast asleep I can’t lie down for any length of time awake because it makes the pain worse.
im so pissed off, I need this weekend to sort Christmas as have been so ill the last few months, last night was meant to be a break for me and a romantic date night which had him falling asleep by 930, asleep at ten and me in my pretty date night lingerie feeling like a right old muppet.
I was so excited for staying Simewjere different and having dinner cooked for me and being away from all my chores etc now I’m just overtired and upset.
im also neurodivergent which is probably exacerbating the feelings but walking home and him not even calling me or anything just completely out of it was depressing.
he does work very early in the morning so I can’t really complain he was shattered but the whole thing is disappointing.

Have you heard him stop breathing in his sleep? I had a heard my dh a good few times and the longer it went on the worse the pauses were. The fact that he had been observed to be having breath pauses in his sleep triggered the gp to refer him. The lack of oxygen also makes you exhausted , so it's probably why he is falling asleep so early. He's not actually getting good quality sleep.

Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 10:07

CoffeePlantation · 21/12/2024 10:04

It certainly sounds like he's got sleep apnoea. If his doctor is dismissing this, then I would make sure he asks to be referred to another one. A cpap (?) machine will help for sure, as will weight loss and side sleeping.

OP, have you tried Loop Earplugs? My partner snores (although nothing like yours!) and I find these great. I use the Loop Quiet Plus (they come with double seal tips and the original so you can try both). They're amazing. There is no earplug on earth that will block out the sound entirely, but these are really great and much comfier and easier to use than the foam ones.

I have a 15% off discount code if you (or anyone) would like to use it. rwrd.io/7ovbmde?c

They're a bit expensive, but honestly they are a godsend. They offer a 100 day money back guarentee.

I'm noise sensitive so have a few pairs. I use them on the train, in the office and in the car with my children who constantly argue and bicker. Even in noisy restaurants.

I know how distressing the snoring and any unwanted noise in general can be. I hope you manage to get him to sort it out, otherwise I would be leaving.

Thank you, I have loops but found them hard as I can only lie on my left side due to my disability and any headphones feel hard in my ear, I’m like the princess and the bloody pea.
and tbh I lost them 🫣
I will look at the loop quiet plus , I am also fed up of throwing money at this .

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Sleeptorture · 21/12/2024 10:11

romdowa · 21/12/2024 10:06

Have you heard him stop breathing in his sleep? I had a heard my dh a good few times and the longer it went on the worse the pauses were. The fact that he had been observed to be having breath pauses in his sleep triggered the gp to refer him. The lack of oxygen also makes you exhausted , so it's probably why he is falling asleep so early. He's not actually getting good quality sleep.

Yes he stops breathing, he makes scary choking sounds and then it goes dead quiet and it scares me especially cos of his dad’s history.
he thinks it’s possibly linked to hiatus hernia with which dr google concurs.
Then it’s hard to relax because I’m worried something will happen to him and I often have intrusive thought type scenarios of him dying in his sleep or at the wheel, he drives for a job.

he said he’s always been like it and his adult daughter corroborates this but doesn’t see it as a health issue, think they both think I’m just a light sleeper (which I am) especially if it’s disturbed sleep, my brain just pings into action when im woken up
his dad also doesn’t follow health advice despite heart attacks

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SquirrelSoShiny · 21/12/2024 10:13

He is being selfish and he needs to be proactive about managing his health. If he doesn't change I would walk away.