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Traumatised after first date, I need to know if I’m overreacting. *Content warning - Rape*

80 replies

JeyK · 17/12/2024 11:12

Long story short, I’ve been talking to this guy on an off for awhile, we have mutual friends, but this was the first time that we had met in person. I find him attractive physically and during our first date I did get a little tipsy but as the days have gone by I’m starting to remember things that happened and a lot of things don’t sit right with me. On an emotional and maturity level, we are definitely not aligned.

So firstly, I was the one who drove on this date. He told me he had car problems so I had to end up picking him up. I’m not judgemental so I did it. He does cocaine whereas I just drink occasionally but I only realised on our date what he’s really about. He yanked my hair while I was driving several times and I started to get annoyed and told him to stop. the first time it seemed a bit playful but then he kept doing it and harder. I have long hair as well. To me, it doesn’t matter how comfortable I make you feel because I know I give off that vibe, but I just think the line was crossed there firstly. he’s also five years older than me so I’m not sure if he just likes to feel in control.

We went out to eat and he kept trying to kiss me and in a very intense way it wasn’t like just a peck on the lips. It was very full on and I felt uncomfortable and I told him to stop because we’re in a public space. I’m also someone who’s quite introverted so you can imagine that this was out of my comfort zone. He kept saying to me why do you keep pushing me away. His life seems quite chaotic and during the night he did have moments where he would kind of trauma dump on me about his childhood and stuff, but like I said I know I have that nurturing energy and people tend to feel safe around me, so I didn’t mind it.

I’m not sure if I should’ve drew the line here, but we ended up going back to mine and just chilling out for a bit we did have sex. I did enjoy it at first, but after a few long rounds, I was literally done for and he was finding it hard to finish and told me this was because the cocktail of drugs that he had done which causes him problems in that department. But it literally got to a stage where my body could no longer take it and he kept trying to continue. I told him that I can’t do this anymore several times and I’m in pain and he proceeded and at one point I was literally just lifeless whilst he was still on top of me going & sweating I just feel disgusted when I remember those moments in my head. He even said to me during “we’re not stopping until I come“ After he ran out of energy, I had a panic attack in my room. I think this was due to what my body had just been put through I was pushed way over my limit. I’d literally never felt like this after sex during any point of my life. He wasn’t aware of the panic attack. But my body literally went into shock but it’s only as days have gone on that I’ve realised that this isn’t okay. I’ve literally been in pain for three days. I’ve had to work from home because I could barely walk for the first two days. I’ve also noticed the way that he talks to other women in his life is just atrocious and he also has some deep mother wounds so this could play a role in his behaviour.

I’m just not sure how to feel about this all. he has checked in on me and called me several times and just keeps asking me if I’m okay but doesn’t go into depth about the night. as my memory comes back to me he clearly knows that something was wrong. I even had a really emotional tearful moment last night when thinking about it all and I’m usually a tough cookie so I’m not sure what happened. but how do I proceed with this moving forward?

I’m not a confrontational person and I don’t want to start drama with him .

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ThatTealViewer · 17/12/2024 11:17

My love, what you’ve just described is rape. You were raped. What you choose to do is entirely up to you, but there is no course of action that would be an overreaction.

I am so so sorry.

username299 · 17/12/2024 11:18

OP that sounds like rape. You can contact Rape Crisis for a discussion and decide what to do.

Secondly, your boundaries are off. He was pulling your hair, kissing you non consensually and trauma dumping on you. If anything like that happens again, just leave.

For safety reasons, don't travel with someone you don't know to a date. Go separately. I'm in no way blaming you for what happened but I don't believe you're in a good place to be dating.

FetchezLaVache · 17/12/2024 11:20

I'm so sorry, my love, you were raped. You asked him to stop and he kept going. It's no wonder you feel so emotional. I do hope you never accept contact from this person again. If you feel up to it, seek help from a rape crisis charity or report him to the police, but certainly please never have anything to do with him again.

Losingtheplot2016 · 17/12/2024 11:20

No you are not over reacting. This sounds like a horrible experience. You asked him to stop and he didn’t. You didn’t give your consent or agreement and he did what he wanted. This was not ok.

It sounds like you didn’t feel comfortable in his company. You knew something wasn’t right and you’ve been proved right. So you can trust your instincts.

Forget about him, you don’t need to make things ok between you and him - when they aren’t.

Take great care of yourself now and allow yourself to recover.

MaggieBsBoat · 17/12/2024 11:21

He raped you. I am so sorry. Even the words are horrifying. Make sure you screenshot messages from him.
I am not sure what is reasonable to do at this point but most certainly have nothing to do with him.

Oreyt · 17/12/2024 11:25

Are you usually like this when you drink? Forgetful? Or do you think he could have put something in your drink?

SoftandQuiet · 17/12/2024 11:26

That’s awful you poor thing. (I’ve reported post for a trigger warning re rape, I’m not easily upset but this has upset me).
You need to have no more to do with him, at the very least, he sounds dangerous.

Hillrunning · 17/12/2024 11:27

Sending you very gentle hugs. This was rape, that's why you are having such a strong reaction. Be kind to yourself. He is aware it wasn't okay so is contacting you lots to try to remain in control of the situation.

Apolloneuro · 17/12/2024 11:30

Oreyt · 17/12/2024 11:25

Are you usually like this when you drink? Forgetful? Or do you think he could have put something in your drink?

I don’t want to alarm, but I wondered this too. Did you drive home ok and then suddenly feel weird?

DaisyChain505 · 17/12/2024 11:30

I’m so so sorry you having been put through this.

Please contact rape crisis or your GP. I’m not sure what the next steps are but you need to be seen by someone with medical experience.

Bumcake · 17/12/2024 11:35

If you were driving you shouldn’t have been so drunk that your memory is patchy surely? Sounds like something a bit suspicious went on.

Why the hell would someone be pulling your hair on the way to a first date - boundary testing?

JeyK · 17/12/2024 11:35

Apolloneuro · 17/12/2024 11:30

I don’t want to alarm, but I wondered this too. Did you drive home ok and then suddenly feel weird?

@Apolloneuro

I mean when I do drink, I do have clouded moments. But it all seemed a blur to me until the last two days where my memory has been coming back and it’s very detailed. Or maybe I’m just processing that this wasn’t okay. I know a lot of people are saying that it’s classed as rape. I think it’s sometimes hard to digest when it starts off as consensual sex.

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rebmacesrevda · 17/12/2024 11:39

I'm so sorry; the whole experience sounds horrific, and it was rape.

I think you should be telling the police rather than mumsnet. It sounds possible you were drugged; you need to get a blood test ASAP to prove it. Also a medical examination and swabs. Evidence needs to be collected today. Can you call a friend to go with you to police station/ hospital? Good luck.

arethereanyleftatall · 17/12/2024 11:43

You are allowed to say no at any point during sex. As soon as you've said no, it becomes rape.

Yes it was rape. It is your choice how to take that from here, but rape is a crime.

Going forward, you need much stronger boundaries. The picking him up shouldn't have happened as you put yourself in a car with a stranger. When he pulled your hair the first time you should have stopped the date then and there.

None of these things give him any 'right' to rape you.

Apolloneuro · 17/12/2024 11:46

JeyK · 17/12/2024 11:35

@Apolloneuro

I mean when I do drink, I do have clouded moments. But it all seemed a blur to me until the last two days where my memory has been coming back and it’s very detailed. Or maybe I’m just processing that this wasn’t okay. I know a lot of people are saying that it’s classed as rape. I think it’s sometimes hard to digest when it starts off as consensual sex.

Mmmm. Is there someone in real life you can speak to today? I don’t like the sound of this, lovey.

Nikitaspearlearring · 17/12/2024 11:47

JeyK · 17/12/2024 11:35

@Apolloneuro

I mean when I do drink, I do have clouded moments. But it all seemed a blur to me until the last two days where my memory has been coming back and it’s very detailed. Or maybe I’m just processing that this wasn’t okay. I know a lot of people are saying that it’s classed as rape. I think it’s sometimes hard to digest when it starts off as consensual sex.

Yes, it started as consensual. But then you told him (several times) to stop and a decent man would have, but this then became non-consensual. I agree with everyone else about contacting Rape Crisis. But what I want you to please take away from my post is this: You were not at fault. You were not to blame. This is all on him and his choices. OK?!

Do NOT blame yourself!

TwistedWonder · 17/12/2024 11:51

arethereanyleftatall · 17/12/2024 11:43

You are allowed to say no at any point during sex. As soon as you've said no, it becomes rape.

Yes it was rape. It is your choice how to take that from here, but rape is a crime.

Going forward, you need much stronger boundaries. The picking him up shouldn't have happened as you put yourself in a car with a stranger. When he pulled your hair the first time you should have stopped the date then and there.

None of these things give him any 'right' to rape you.

Absolutely agree. You were raped by this man and maybe drugged by sounds of it. You really need to report him to police as it’s likely he’s done this before and he’ll do it again.

You do need to stop dating until you’ve got proper boundaries in place and you understand why you ignored so many red flags with this creep.

None of this is victim blaming and the fault for the rape is 💯 on him. He’s an abuser and a criminal.

ThreeLocusts · 17/12/2024 11:51

I'm so sorry OP. Agree with PPs, no reaction is an overreaction here. Calling rape crisis and talking it over with them sounds like a good idea.

As for the memory coming back gradually - you said above that you had a panic attack right after. So I'd guess that your mind tried to shut it all out at first as a trauma response, and the memories are now coming back gradually. Rather than drugs being involved, it could be a response to just how wrong this all felt.

Wishing you healing.

Scorchio84 · 17/12/2024 11:52

"we're not stopping until I cum'

Rapist!
I'm sorry you went through this, please block him x

ETF grammar

Apolloneuro · 17/12/2024 11:55

Do you think you’re physically injured? You must be ever so bruised. Ice pack wrapped in a tea towel and tucked between your legs might help.

Please let us know how you get on x

ps I fricking hate men sometimes

viques · 17/12/2024 11:58

Yes it was rape, you said stop, he didn’t. Please report him.

viques · 17/12/2024 12:05

username299 · 17/12/2024 11:18

OP that sounds like rape. You can contact Rape Crisis for a discussion and decide what to do.

Secondly, your boundaries are off. He was pulling your hair, kissing you non consensually and trauma dumping on you. If anything like that happens again, just leave.

For safety reasons, don't travel with someone you don't know to a date. Go separately. I'm in no way blaming you for what happened but I don't believe you're in a good place to be dating.

Edited

I wrote and deleted a very similar post, what happened to you was a result of his calculated, devious and abhorrent behaviour and I am immensely sorry you have been through this awful assault, but I want you to be safe in future relationships ( and yes, you will have future relationships, which I hope will be loving and respectful) so please ask the Rape Crisis Centre you report this evil man to, for help in setting boundaries.

EarthSight · 17/12/2024 12:05

It's rape.

He needs to watch this (all of it) -

Although, he probably won't care, and he probably won't consider what he's done as rape.

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JeyK · 17/12/2024 12:06

Apolloneuro · 17/12/2024 11:55

Do you think you’re physically injured? You must be ever so bruised. Ice pack wrapped in a tea towel and tucked between your legs might help.

Please let us know how you get on x

ps I fricking hate men sometimes

Edited

I definitely feel internally bruised as I’ve never felt this way after sex. It’s been almost 3 days and I’m still in pain. Also, my period was due a few days ago and that hasn’t showed up and my body usually works like clockwork, but I think it’s probably due to the trauma that my body has experienced.

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