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husband wants to move I don't

132 replies

ilikepiesomuch · 15/12/2024 09:12

We have an unusual setup in our relationship. I am the sole breadwinner, lucky enough to earn high 6 figures in a career that I have been in my whole adult life and love. My partner quit their job last year to pursue a career in a different field but has yet to make any real money yet.

We currently live in a nice part of London. My DH moved into the house that I had purchased before we met. But now we that are looking to start a family, we are struggling a bit in where to live. I would like to stay in this area of London, as I have lived here 10 years and my family are close by, as are a decent local friend group I've worked hard to build up from scratch. My work is also very much specific to London as the bulk of the UK industry is based here.

He would like to move away to the west of England. There are a few small towns in Devon that he has visited a few times and likes. And he believes that he will have an easier time making a friendship group there and that he can spend more time with friends without having to travel across to different parts of London. He struggles with the faster pace of London and finds that he doesn't like a lot of the people here and believes it will be different in a more rural spot. He's also keen to integrate more nature into his life.

I guess it's difficult as our house budget is high enough to be able to get a really decent house in this area of London with a big garden and very close to some of the big SW London green spaces. And I worry that I will really struggle moving away from my work, family and friends to start a new life based on his belief that he will do better in a small town that neither of us have any existing connection to. I also would be funding the whole cost of whatever new house we move into as he has no savings. His family also live abroad and he is not that close with them so I sort of feel if we are planning to have kids then we should at least be close to my family to help out when things get hard in those early years!

OP posts:
SadSandwich · 15/12/2024 10:55

Read this post back to urself. You’ve achieved a good life with strong networks, good job and your own home - your OH wants to change each of these areas of your life thats working for you - to achieve some notion of happiness for himself. What if this does not bring him happiness? Then what for you?

Red flags everywhere.

WatchOutForBabyHaggis · 15/12/2024 10:56

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 15/12/2024 10:51

‘Imagine the responses if the op had said 'I'm desperately unhappy where we live but dh massively out earns me and pays for most things. He's told me I don't get any say in where we live or settle down and that he gets to decide this because it's his money. What should I do?'’

The responses :
a) get a job, then it won’t be just his money.
b) try to work out if you are unhappy because you don’t drive and there is no public transport so the solution is ‘learn to drive’.
etc etc….

You are joking?

There might be the odd few along those lines, yes.

Ime though the responses would be:

  1. He's financially abusing you
  2. You're MARRIED, everything is shared, you're JUST as entitled as him to decide where you live
  3. LTB and move - you'll be fine financially as you're married, get a good lawyer.
Capricornandproud · 15/12/2024 10:58

Jimjamssy · 15/12/2024 09:19

Absolutely not.
You would be out of your mind to do this.
If you plan a family do not expect him to suddenly step up.
You may find that you have two children.
Paying for it all, organising it all, and doing it all......miles away from any support.

You will need family and friends desperately for support.

If you had a baby with him in the west of england and then decided you wanted to move back, he could prevent you moving.

Be very very wary of a man who doesn't work, depends on your salary, moving you away from your support network.

So many women that do it, bitterly regret it.
Better for the relationship to end now than for you to end up in the arsehole of nowhere stuck.

Sorry for the harsh reply but you need to educate yourself on how life can plaly out for some well meaning women.

Having children changes everything.
Support is the difference that can make it bearable.

1000 times, this.

turkeymuffin · 15/12/2024 10:58

TiredCatLady · 15/12/2024 09:36

Be very very wary of a man who doesn't work, depends on your salary, moving you away from your support network.

Read that, then read it again. The move will take you away from your job, the house you own, friends, family, area you’re familiar with. To somewhere you have no ties, will be four hours drive from family, have used up the equity on your London home and will probably have tanked your career. And then add pregnancy into the mix.

It’s a hard, hard no. And I’d be examining the relationship carefully.

This.

There is maybe a compromise where you get a holiday home in devon ? Somewhere you can retreat to for weekends / longer breaks over Xmas etc. A home from home

Trounlet · 15/12/2024 10:58

I think you'd be foolish to walk away from you career/network/home to move to Devon.

And I speak to someone who did just that several years ago. The big difference for us was that we already had a holiday cottage in the area so had a network before we moved, and perhaps more importantly I'd had enough of my city career and wanted to do something different. I did stay working in the city for the first year, travelling up on a Monday morning and coming home on Thursday evening. We did this whilst DH found/settled into his job (& his role is easily geographically tranferrable) and the I found a job.

Unless you're both committed to moving and understand just how different rural Devon is, you will end up resenting the move and perhaps your DH as it will effectively end your career.

JustWalkingTheDogs · 15/12/2024 10:59

No one is right here so you have my sympathies. Who funds the move is irrelevant, you're married so imo it's family money.

Tbh I'm presuming you'll go back to work ft after the children are born and your dh with do the lions share of the childcare? Or is he expecting to still run his own business. If it's the latter then having a support structure around you, that's already in place is a god send.

Also you'll miss out on so much if you have to stay away from the home or have a long commute to continue working in London. Tbh in your shoes, if you intend to work ft I'd stay in London. Otherwise you'll end up being a parent who only sees their kids on weekends etc

dontcryformeargentina · 15/12/2024 11:04

He sounds selfish. It's all about what he wants. Plus, be careful with your relationship dynamics. It sounds like you are transitioning into his mum role - provider and caretaker. It may affect your sex life potentially. Think what you want and what are your non negotiable points and communicate it to him.

AsFunAsEnglishWeather · 15/12/2024 11:08

Don't do it. I've had children in a rural location and in London, and I much preferred the latter. So much more to do with children that doesn't depend on the weather or driving miles. I hate to say it, but there's also more chance of you finding your type of people in a baby group in London - and maternity leave can be very lonely without them.

EarthSight · 15/12/2024 11:11

He struggles with the faster pace of London and finds that he doesn't like a lot of the people here and believes it will be different in a more rural spot. He's also keen to integrate more nature into his life

*our house budget is high enough to be able to get a really decent house in this area of London with a big garden and very close to some of the big SW London green spaces

No wonder you're not keen on moving.

I live and am from one of the most rural areas in Wales. I've also lived and worked in the centre of cities, and am in the centre of London a few times a year, so I hope to offer you some perspective,

I notice that a lot of people say the countryside is more 'slow paced' and the cities like London are 'fast paced' but that is mostly untrue.

Unless you work for yourself at variable hours, most people in the countryside have jobs. They usually start at 8am or 9am and timekeeping is as important here as it is in the cities. People don't just leisurely turn up 30mins late for things, and no one minds because it's the countryside. People who assume that live in la-la land.

I'm often slowed down by traffic....just not the type of traffic he might be familiar with. I'd say about 30 - 40% of my journeys involve me being stuck either behind a tractor at some point, who simply won't pull over to allow the queue of 10+ cars behind them to pass, or there's a lot of old people on the roads who don't seem to be able to drive faster than 40 - 45miles per hr, even if it's a road where someone could easily drive up to 60mph. The nearest dual carriageway is over 45mins drive away, so passing people like this is often difficult or risky.

This how 'fast paced' thing is often very much self-inflicted. It's people unable to say 'no' to events, feeling obligated to attend everything. Just because everyone else is rushing to get the tube, doesn't mean everyone has to. I'm naturally a fast walker so I blend in well with people's pace of walking in places like that, but no one HAS to be a fast walker either.

But now we that are looking to start a family, we are struggling a bit in where to live. I would like to stay in this area of London, as I have lived here 10 years and my family are close by, as are a decent local friend group I've worked hard to build up from scratch. My work is also very much specific to London as the bulk of the UK industry is based here

It's going to be so risky for you to move. Friend groups like that are not easy to make generally, and no easier in the countryside. In fact, despite the smaller, more intimate communities, it can be just as hard. Many people prefer to stick to the friends they made at high school, and don't really want to rock the boat or risk ruining group dynamics by inviting someone new along. Many women in the 30s generally just don't have the time in their life to devote to making new friends either, so you might find it really difficult to integrate. Even I find it difficult, and I'm someone who moved back to my area.

it will be different in a more rural spot. He's also keen to integrate more nature into his life

Lots of people like this move to Wales, so I think it's likely to be the same with Devon or Cornwall.

The thing is, a lot of them are in their mid 30s and upwards, so they might be a bit older than you. Although I think he probably would find people like him to make friends with, they won't all be sociable. It seems like there is a certain type of English person who moves here, and you'll probably find them there as well - middle class, eccentric or odd, nature loving but mostly unsociable, haughty or bad tempered. They've moved to the countryside for a reason - it's not to meet people like your partner - it's to get away from them. I'd recommend he keeps this mind so he's not disappointed.

he has no savings

No savings at all?? How come? Seems like a red flag.

EarthSight · 15/12/2024 11:15

AsFunAsEnglishWeather · 15/12/2024 11:08

Don't do it. I've had children in a rural location and in London, and I much preferred the latter. So much more to do with children that doesn't depend on the weather or driving miles. I hate to say it, but there's also more chance of you finding your type of people in a baby group in London - and maternity leave can be very lonely without them.

This. I think the South-West of England might be drier than where I live in Wales, but so much of what I want to do is outdoor, and I've cancelled many things because I just don't fancy struggling through the rain.

Also yes - LOTS of driving to EVERYTHING.

Pumpkinpie1 · 15/12/2024 11:16

So you live in the house you bought , paid for by the money you earn , in a job your H wants you to jeopardise because he wants to try living out of London!
What does he actually contribute apart from his own Me me me aspirations?
If he wanted to move nearer his family and friends I would have some sympathy, but he’s daydreaming.
You love where you live , it’s convenient for your job that you love and pays for his lifestyle.
You need to be assertive, maybe save for a holiday home . But don’t let him destroy a career your and life you love on a pie in the sky dreamer. What steps has he taken to make his new career pay ? Or is he sitting back expecting it to just happen ?

GlovesScarfAndBoots · 15/12/2024 11:19

turkeymuffin · 15/12/2024 10:58

This.

There is maybe a compromise where you get a holiday home in devon ? Somewhere you can retreat to for weekends / longer breaks over Xmas etc. A home from home

I wouldn't go straight to the expense and hassle of getting a holiday cottage without renting somewhere for a while first to see if that would even work for you. A month out of season wouldn't be that expensive in the scheme of things compared to buying a white elephant.

GinForBreakfast · 15/12/2024 11:20

Devon doesn't need more second home owners....

Time40 · 15/12/2024 11:21

He could rent a little place for himself and try it out. Has he considered Exeter? That's within very easy reach of lots of pretty places in Devon, but with easy access to fast trains back to you in London (that's if you want to stick with him ... you don't sound very compatible, really!)

needhelpwiththisplease · 15/12/2024 11:21

It would be
Career
Friendship
Family support
Emotional
Financial
Suicide on your part!
You have nothing to gain by doing this but everything to loose.
Also do not have children with someone who thinks they can dictate your life, without contributing to the financial and emotional parts of it!

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 15/12/2024 11:25

EarthSight · 15/12/2024 11:11

He struggles with the faster pace of London and finds that he doesn't like a lot of the people here and believes it will be different in a more rural spot. He's also keen to integrate more nature into his life

*our house budget is high enough to be able to get a really decent house in this area of London with a big garden and very close to some of the big SW London green spaces

No wonder you're not keen on moving.

I live and am from one of the most rural areas in Wales. I've also lived and worked in the centre of cities, and am in the centre of London a few times a year, so I hope to offer you some perspective,

I notice that a lot of people say the countryside is more 'slow paced' and the cities like London are 'fast paced' but that is mostly untrue.

Unless you work for yourself at variable hours, most people in the countryside have jobs. They usually start at 8am or 9am and timekeeping is as important here as it is in the cities. People don't just leisurely turn up 30mins late for things, and no one minds because it's the countryside. People who assume that live in la-la land.

I'm often slowed down by traffic....just not the type of traffic he might be familiar with. I'd say about 30 - 40% of my journeys involve me being stuck either behind a tractor at some point, who simply won't pull over to allow the queue of 10+ cars behind them to pass, or there's a lot of old people on the roads who don't seem to be able to drive faster than 40 - 45miles per hr, even if it's a road where someone could easily drive up to 60mph. The nearest dual carriageway is over 45mins drive away, so passing people like this is often difficult or risky.

This how 'fast paced' thing is often very much self-inflicted. It's people unable to say 'no' to events, feeling obligated to attend everything. Just because everyone else is rushing to get the tube, doesn't mean everyone has to. I'm naturally a fast walker so I blend in well with people's pace of walking in places like that, but no one HAS to be a fast walker either.

But now we that are looking to start a family, we are struggling a bit in where to live. I would like to stay in this area of London, as I have lived here 10 years and my family are close by, as are a decent local friend group I've worked hard to build up from scratch. My work is also very much specific to London as the bulk of the UK industry is based here

It's going to be so risky for you to move. Friend groups like that are not easy to make generally, and no easier in the countryside. In fact, despite the smaller, more intimate communities, it can be just as hard. Many people prefer to stick to the friends they made at high school, and don't really want to rock the boat or risk ruining group dynamics by inviting someone new along. Many women in the 30s generally just don't have the time in their life to devote to making new friends either, so you might find it really difficult to integrate. Even I find it difficult, and I'm someone who moved back to my area.

it will be different in a more rural spot. He's also keen to integrate more nature into his life

Lots of people like this move to Wales, so I think it's likely to be the same with Devon or Cornwall.

The thing is, a lot of them are in their mid 30s and upwards, so they might be a bit older than you. Although I think he probably would find people like him to make friends with, they won't all be sociable. It seems like there is a certain type of English person who moves here, and you'll probably find them there as well - middle class, eccentric or odd, nature loving but mostly unsociable, haughty or bad tempered. They've moved to the countryside for a reason - it's not to meet people like your partner - it's to get away from them. I'd recommend he keeps this mind so he's not disappointed.

he has no savings

No savings at all?? How come? Seems like a red flag.

Edited

Lots of really good points here, OP.

I would just add that you seem to be a realist, with all your points based on what’s actually present or attainable in your life. He sounds like a dreamer, with pretty ideas based on a fantasy of country life.

You want to start a family. Are you sure he is the person to have children with?

SnoopysHoose · 15/12/2024 11:26

I think he will probably end up making £30 - £40k a year eventually doing what he loves.
love doesn't pay the bills.

Mangocity · 15/12/2024 11:27

He wants to have a house move financed for him that will take you away from your job and family at a time when you are already supporting him financially on the basis that he would be happier? Is he always so selfish?

I doubt he can be happy. He's really lucky to have the freedom to try what he's doing and if all he can see is what he hasn't got in this entitled way, I don't think where he lives is likely to solve his problems.

AgnesX · 15/12/2024 11:28

He shouldn't be thinking of moving anywhere until his own job is more stable and successful.

He's not really thought it through and taken in to account your commute and facilities and services for young children.

rookiemere · 15/12/2024 11:30

Why doesn't your DH work at all ? You don't have DCs yet so surely he should be doing something.

What he actually needs is a sense of self worth. If he wants to get closer to nature perhaps he could volunteer for an outdoor project or get an allotment.

What does he think you both will live on if you move remotely and can't get a comparable job?

DaisyChain505 · 15/12/2024 11:30

You earn the money, and a lot of it. Where you live ultimately is down to where your job needs you. The fact that you have a support network close by is also important if you’re going to be starting a family.

Why not decide that you will holiday 1-2 a year where your partner wanted to move or make it a goal to purchase a holiday home there for the future.

rookiemere · 15/12/2024 11:31

Sorry I reread your OP, I see he is working just not actually making any money Hmm. Same advice stands sounds like he needs to be busier, too much time for naval gazing on your dime.

Mostlyoblivious · 15/12/2024 11:31

I would suggest in the first instance he rents a place for a few months in one of those West Country villages which has captured his imagination and then report back as to how happy he is there. You continue to do your thing in london and then see - this is a watershed moment for your relationship and as many posters have already said, it’s very problematic. Cynically on the face of it this man has found someone to bankroll his life. Obviously it is much more complex than that however, I wouldn’t be making any life changing decisions here

PermanentTemporary · 15/12/2024 11:32

This is the moment to reread the Little House on the Prairie books. Especially the later ones, By The Banks of Plum Creek etc.

I loved those books as a child. I loved Laura's happy relationship with her fiddle-playing Dad who was always dreaming of the perfect place to live, somewhere empty and hundreds of miles from where they were.

My mum vocally hated those books. 'As soon as their mother got them settled in and started to get the house sorted, had some neighbours and a community, he couldn't wait to uproot them! That poor woman!'

It's not 19th century Dakota, you aren't dependent on him farming the prairie to feed you, and you have multiple good reasons to stay where you are. He needs to find a way to make a good life where he is, or to find another life. Tbh many men in particular do seem to have this belief that Somewhere Else will fix things in them. I guess there are female equivalent things and people but I've known a lot of men like this.

strawberrysea · 15/12/2024 11:34

Absolutely not.