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Don't know where to start

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CrazyHormoneLady · 09/12/2024 10:34

I've started several threads the last couple of weeks but can't really find the words to describe what's going on.

I'm feeling increasingly stuck in my relationship. We've been together 11 years, have a 3 year old and own our own property. Not married.

My partner has a drinking issue that keeps rearing its head; the drinking completely changes his personality and I mostly find him incredibly irritating when he drinks. He's also not good with money and in spite of having a joint account and trying to pay equally into there (similar salaries), I have ended up paying a lot more (looking back I have paid £20k more into our joint account in the last 5 years than he has) thanks to various episodes of unemployment and sickness (e.g. he has just gone back to work since pulling his shoulder out in August - something that could have been fixed long ago if he'd have called the consultant and arranged an injection after being told to do that - instead he dragged his feet on it until eventually it got sorted).

We've been trying to rekindle things in the bedroom, but the last time we had sex he was drunk and he was a bit rough with me, then afterwards told me I was a "great fuck" which made me feel absolutely disgusting. He's since told me it was just a joke that landed badly.

He had been telling me his drinking was getting worse because he felt like I wasn't loving enough, so I spent hundreds of pounds and tens of hours of counselling across 2023 and 2024 to try and find a way of rekindling my feelings towards him after he got completely drunk at my step-sister's wedding and disappeared to go to a bar whilst I was putting our then-1 year old to bed. That night I told him he needed to stop drinking or I would leave him and he laughed at me! But was very apologetic once he'd sobered up.

I managed to start feeling warmer and more loving towards him again due to him stopping drinking for almost a year and things started looking up. However, literally the weekend after I told the counsellor that I thought I didn't need her anymore and that I finally had feelings for him again, he went to the pub after I'd gone to bed, came back, tried to watch porn and found it was blocked on his phone so woke me up at 2am to accuse me of blocking porn on his phone - I hadn't, it's the wifi provider - but he wouldn't believe me for about 2 hours of arguing. I went back to bed shattered, upset and broken, and that's when he actually realised it wasn't me that blocked porn. I have always said to him that as long as it's not cam girls he's watching, and I don't find out, then he could watch porn. Since finding out about trafficking and the effects of porn on young people, I have become very anti-porn. My partner says he watches porn because we're not having sex, we haven't spoken about me being anti-porn though.

There have been various incidents like this over the years, all related to drinking, two related to porn (I found he'd been trying to search live cams a year or two ago which we agreed years ago is a no-go for me as I feel it's cheating). Too many things to write about here, it would be a book!

His behaviour has ground me down, and I want to leave. I know when I do leave him, he'll tell me he'll stop drinking, and he might well do that. But I know it's only a matter of time before something else bad happens, and I've lost the will to fight for this relationship. I'm a wet blanket and I think I'm going to end up falling for his claim to stop drinking.

How do I leave?! I think I still love him, but I'm completely fed up and to be honest I don't think I can bring myself to have sex with him ever again. Do I find somewhere new to live first? How do I manage all this with a 3 year old?! How do I get through Christmas?! Do I just take it steady and find another therapist to talk me through everything?

Sorry for the long post, I just need to get this out of my system. All this has been weighing on my mind and I'm behind at work with millions of deadlines looming - it's making me feel ill and tired and disconnected from life. My poor daughter has had a shell of mummy looking after her over this weekend, I've found it so hard to be present with her.

I will check back later - thanks everyone!

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AlertCat · 08/01/2025 17:40

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CrazyHormoneLady · 09/01/2025 14:39

I'll add creeping crack to my list 😁

No update today other than slowly slowly moving things out to the childminders' house, and have a few bits ordered to hers too... I feel less anxious today thankfully! I'm waiting for a call back on my offer though, and a reply to an e-mail I sent with more questions about the boat.

I'm a bit worried that some of the things I need to move out are going to have to be done on Saturday whilst partner is in bed because they're big and obvious (work laptop, second screen, router for internet, my clothes)... if he wakes up whilst I do that then I'll be found out, so I'd have to move them after I tell him which again might be tricky as there are quite a few things and I don't think I could carry them all to the car from the boat in one go (10 mins walk)... It'll be a case of being extra, extra sneaky I guess!!

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AlertCat · 09/01/2025 15:48

Will you be safe, @CrazyHormoneLady , if he discovers your plans? Or is it more a case of feeing awkward while moving out if he is aware?

Bittenonce · 09/01/2025 16:30

Must admit I’d find the subterfuge draining and stressful. Sooner you can be open about this, the better all round

LivelyMintViper · 09/01/2025 18:39

Can you enlist someone to help you move?

Shetlands · 09/01/2025 20:13

You really should have someone else with you're doing the moving as it's a lot to shift by hand. Could you move it all out on Friday night while he's at work?

CrazyHormoneLady · 09/01/2025 22:15

He takes the car to work so I wouldn't be able to pack anything in there (but even if he didn't then DD is in bed when he's at work so I can't leave her). In terms of friends, I guess I could see if my friend is around to potentially put stuff in her car, which was parked near mine not long ago (she's moved her boat a bit further away).

I'm 99% sure I'll be safe and I've actually moved a lot out already bit by bit in the mornings. He's a very heavy sleeper so fingers crossed he sleeps when he gets home on Saturday morning so I can grab the last few things (clothes mostly!). I'm going to pack a decent amount of my clothes tomorrow night so I can take them with me when I take DD to the childminders - if he goes to sleep before we leave I'd even be able to sneak some bigger stuff - we have a wheelbarrow so I could put it all in there and do it in one go.

I'll have to come and get my dog next Tuesday though (childminder has a yappy dog and they wouldn't get on). I'm hoping he doesn't spiral and neglect the dogs 😞

Partner is very sad and mopey so I think he's sensing that something is coming although I don't think he quite realises it's this big - that's good in the sense he's less likely to get angry with shock.

@Bittenonce you're completely right, I'm absolutely exhausted with it all. Here's to Saturday when it's all out in the open, phew!

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Shetlands · 09/01/2025 22:22

Saturday until Tuesday is a long time for dogs to be neglected if he goes on a drinking bender. Isn't there anyone who would have them for 3 nights? I'd have them for you if I lived nearby and I don't even know you! I'd help you move too - you're doing so well in this dreadful situation but it would be so much easier if others could sort out some practicalities for you.

CrazyHormoneLady · 09/01/2025 22:27

I shouldn't have used the word neglect really - he might not take them for a decent walk I mean, They would get food and water and taken out for a wee and poo, but not sure if he would take them out for proper walks. Our girl, his favourite, whinges the boat down if we're 5 mins off the walking schedule and won't stop until we're ready to go so the reality is she simply wouldn't allow him to forget anything😂Having said this, I have our current boat neighbour's number and he's got a dog of his own, so I can ask him to pop in on partner to check on the dogs and potentially take them for a good walk if my partner isn't up to it.

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CrazyHormoneLady · 09/01/2025 22:28

@Shetlands I forgot to say thank you for saying you'd have them and also help me move, the sentiment is really appreciated ❤

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CrazyHormoneLady · 10/01/2025 21:39

It feels a bit like the calm before the storm! I've told my partner I'm taking DD to pets at home in the morning to get more dog food so he can sleep, so the sound of me trundling off with the wheelbarrow won't make him question anything (hopefully he'll be fast asleep by the time DD and I have had breakfast and are ready to set off!). I've stashed a bag of my clothes somewhere I can grab it easily tomorrow morning so now everything I need from the bedroom is no longer in there except for DD's favourite teddies.

Hopefully I can just get everything to the car to drop off at the childminders tomorrow when I take DD, meaning all I have to do is pop to the shop to grab a couple of final things, then head home to break the news.

My rough script plan is essentially: "There's no easy way to say this but I'm leaving. I haven't been happy for a while and I don't think you have been happy either. Whilst it might seem devastating news now, I think there are ways to manage this situation that don't have to make it too painful but now isn't the time to discuss those. DD is at the childminders, and I've arranged somewhere for us to stay. I won't be in touch today or Sunday but I'd be happy to text on Monday about how all this is going to work going forwards."

I think I want to avoid anything personal, I don't want him to know I've got a boat yet, and I don't want to sound too much like I'm "running off" with DD because I think that would be the bit he finds most devastating.

Right, going to do some pre bedtime breathing exercises and stop looking at my phone now... hoping to get a half decent night's sleep ❤️

Thank you to all you wonderful ladies for supporting me through this! It's come around so, so quickly!!

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RandomMess · 10/01/2025 22:18

Wishing you the best for tomorrow it's clear you are kind and compassionate 💕

Ppzd · 11/01/2025 06:12

Best of luck @CrazyHormoneLady , we're all thinking of you and we all have your back and your DD's. She is so lucky to have you as her mum, you are incredibly strong ❤️

Shetlands · 11/01/2025 08:47

Thinking of you today and wishing you all the best. Your daughter is so lucky to have you as her Mum. xx

TipsyJoker · 11/01/2025 09:34

Please have someone with you if you’re telling him in person for your safety. This is the most dangerous time for a women leaving an abusive relationship. Seriously. The statistics do not lie. Personally, I wouldn’t even tell him in person I’d leave a note.

CrazyHormoneLady · 11/01/2025 14:14

Hi everyone, I told him (sorry it was against advice and face to face, but I sensed he wasn't going to blow up as we'd had that text exchange and he has been moping around since). He was incredibly sad, he said he fucked it up and he just wants me and DD to be happy. He told me he doesn't want to go into how he feels because he doesn't want to lay it on me.

I suspect the anger will come, especially if he drinks so I'm going to ignore my phone for a while now. I'll update you on the boat thing.

Thank you for everyone for helping me build the courage to go. It was actually easier than I thought it would be (telling him at least... The moving out and deception was atrocious!). It was a lot, lot sadder than I thought as I left all my anger at the door before I told him.

Wishing everyone a good weekend xxx

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Ppzd · 11/01/2025 15:34

That must have been so hard, and I'm so sorry you are going through this! It is the best decision but the positive sides of this will probably only be felt further down the line. Know that you do not need to be alone in your sadness, anger, etc. make sure you seek support and help when you need it. Even though you took the decision to leave, it is not your fault and you deserve support too ❤️❤️❤️

TheDogHasFarted · 11/01/2025 16:00

Well done!! 👏👏👏 You are inspiring!!

AlertCat · 11/01/2025 17:31

Be gentle with yourself, it’s a sad situation and not of your making. I hope the next days and weeks go smoothly… and maybe this will give him the impetus to make some lasting changes 🤞

Shetlands · 11/01/2025 17:40

Well done for taking such a difficult decision and acting upon it. You are the best Mum to do this for your little girl (and yourself of course). Sending you lots of virtual hugs and flowers. 💐

Gangans · 11/01/2025 18:08

Well done OP.
This is on him.
Remember that.
Best of luck.

Zanatdy · 11/01/2025 18:40

just read the thread and way to go OP. Best decision and as someone who has raised 3 DC as a single parent you will honestly be fine

CrazyHormoneLady · 12/01/2025 17:13

Thanks again everyone! DD and I have just got into our hotel and having hot chocolates and an early night after a late on at the childminders last nigh. I've been feeling very positive, although have been going through moments of sadness for my partner (or should I say ex... Feels strange saying that!).

My friends have been amazing, I've had a lot of support and feeling positive. Once I've settled down I'm planning on getting some therapy to help me avoid choosing the wrong partner in future (although if I'm honest I don't want anything to do with men for a very, very long time!).

I know things will be harder in some respects being a single mum, but also I'm the captain of my own ship now to use an apt analogy 😂 so that makes things much easier in many ways!

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Lighteningstrikes · 12/01/2025 19:07

You’ve done so well.

It will be hard at times atm, but if you ever start doubting yourself, read your very first post.

You’re a star. Keep going.

Bittenonce · 12/01/2025 19:18

@CrazyHormoneLady the worst bit is over now. Probably a good while before your emotions get off the rollercoaster so just take your time