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Eight years single… no interest

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Glittercloud17 · 27/11/2024 10:04

I’ve been single for 8 years. I enjoy being single. Do what I want, when I want, no stress, no drama. But I would like someone…

I do meet tons of fabulous men; some are Doctors, scientists, lawyers, successful businessmen, etc but I have zero desire back. Literally everyone gives me the ick very quickly or we have a great few dates and then I’m done, and lose interest. Partly I don’t find most men attractive anymore (yes, I'm straight heterosexual female), I’m 45, look great for my age, take care of myself, run a business, single parent, rocking life, and I find no one matches me.

Before my child was born (pre pandemic, pre perimenopause) I had relationships, mainly crap ones with imbalances and toxicity. My daughter is desperate for me to settle down (her father is not in our lives), and I am trying to get out there and meet ‘the one’ but I just can’t connect with anyone emotionally. I had a happy upbringing with positive dad influence and I want that for her. I’ve done a lot of work on myself, with therapy to get to a good place, but I worry that I’m in such a good place that I don’t have space for a man to take up my time.

I really feel like giving up this time. No more speedating, apps, blind dates for example. I wouldn’t mind if it were just me. But one day when my daughter is grown, and even during that journey, I would like to share with someone ‘special’.

has this happened to you? Did you give up or keep going? Is my soulmate really out there?

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WineAndMassage · 28/11/2024 00:08

OP, I feel the the same. Not attracted to men Im meeting.. Im heterosexual but often think- maybe I should switch the sides..

Wrapt · 28/11/2024 00:10

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Wonderingpigeon · 28/11/2024 01:45

Glittercloud17 · 27/11/2024 22:56

This is encouraging.
what felt ‘different’ when you met your DH? If you been disinterested so many times before, what was it about DH that was different? How did ‘you know’ he was boyfriend, then husband material? 🙂

Conversation felt very easy and didn't require effort. His behaviour was very gentlemanly. That made him stand out. We just went for walks initially and it grew from there.

Our time together felt very present. There was no clock watching or wondering about the next conversation. No tension or stress. It was very simple and carefree. I found I was lacking that in life. To be able to just..be.

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 07:22

teenmaw · 27/11/2024 23:57

What are you doing other than working and dating? You'll find someone that shares a passion and then you'll admire them regardless of what they look like

So outside of the time I dedicate to dating (which sounds like a lot but isn’t really) I work, and have some established hobbies. I do a lot of sports, and while I do keep my eyes open here, I find it hard to meet guys during sports. They seem to be very young, or married/unavailable.

I also spend a lot of time at home, I’m a single parent and run a business from home so probably 2-3 days a week I am at home working.

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Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 07:28

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Oh it’s 100% me, I know! I want a partner, but it’s me who keeps batting them out of the field.

And I am proud to be ‘full of nyself’ if that’s what you want to call it. I’ve been through a lot of hurt, pain, injustice and trauma in my life; and to come out the other side feeling like I do, an Amazonian warrior, then I feel I’ve earned my position to feel super confident. You and I wouldn’t be friends in the real world ☺️

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Autumnblackberries · 28/11/2024 07:51

LostittoBostik · 27/11/2024 22:54

I do think that in perimenopause we just lose any ability to tolerate bullshit and we can see through most men. That doesn't mean there isn't someone out there for you - just that to interest you he will have to be far more fascinating than the average person you meet. I'd just see it as an excellent inbuilt filter.

This^^

Jazzjazzjazz · 28/11/2024 08:02

shuggles · 27/11/2024 23:56

@Flapearedknave Ignore that poster calling you full of yourself. They wouldn't say that to a man.

I'm not that poster, but if I came across a man who said he dated many women but none lived up to his expectations, I would certainly think he's a complete twat.

Further, I am absolutely sick of trying to have a conversation that are all one sided. People have lost the art of conversation and do not know how to ask questions!

Isn't this complaint generally the other way round, that too many men on dates just take over the conversation and talk too much? I thought the consensus was that women can't get words in because of men talking all the time.

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You sound dramatic and like you read into things. She already said that on paper these are guys that appear to have a lot going for them, she just hasn’t felt a spark. It’s not normal to feel a spark with loads of men, it is normal to meet that one person eventually, where there is something there. People have a low bar these days for how easily they give themselves to someone, and a lot of people seem to feel something for half the men they meet. I don’t think she’s the one with the issues.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 28/11/2024 08:06

Marypoppinss · 27/11/2024 21:15

You sound quite full of yourself OP and you e set both your standards and expectations too high.

Your second paragraph confuses me ‘ I do meet tons of fabulous men; some are Doctors, scientists, lawyers, successful businessmen, etc ‘

I don’t get why it’s so important to you to meet ‘fabulous men ‘ with highly paid professions? Do you not meet men with normal professions like insurance, property and retail?

In all fairness, and I’ll try not to be too stereotypical here, but the professions you’ve pointed out, don’t tend to be full of charismatic people, they are stressful and very professional jobs so maybe that’s where you are going wrong?

When you say you don’t find most men attractive anymore, do you mean physically or mentally? That’s quite a broad statement and I wonder if you are as heterosexual as you think?

and what do these fabulous men do to give you the ick quickly?

Why shouldn't she set her standards and expectations high?

I do that too. I'm not going to settle and the next man has to be something special to be part of my life.

As for the rest of your post. A lot of sweeping assumptions.

Wishitwasstraightforward · 28/11/2024 08:42

LostittoBostik · 27/11/2024 22:54

I do think that in perimenopause we just lose any ability to tolerate bullshit and we can see through most men. That doesn't mean there isn't someone out there for you - just that to interest you he will have to be far more fascinating than the average person you meet. I'd just see it as an excellent inbuilt filter.

That is my experience also @LostittoBostik. I sometimes wonder if now that my biological clock has struck midnight I am somehow much less tolerant of inadequate men and much more content as a single person than I was previously.

Post divorce I'm not looking for a relationship. Previously I've felt something was missing when I didn't have a partner. These days I feel very settled with no desire to look for a relationship. I'm looking forward to my future and don't see that involving a man.

Viviennemary · 28/11/2024 08:45

Glittercloud17 · 27/11/2024 10:04

I’ve been single for 8 years. I enjoy being single. Do what I want, when I want, no stress, no drama. But I would like someone…

I do meet tons of fabulous men; some are Doctors, scientists, lawyers, successful businessmen, etc but I have zero desire back. Literally everyone gives me the ick very quickly or we have a great few dates and then I’m done, and lose interest. Partly I don’t find most men attractive anymore (yes, I'm straight heterosexual female), I’m 45, look great for my age, take care of myself, run a business, single parent, rocking life, and I find no one matches me.

Before my child was born (pre pandemic, pre perimenopause) I had relationships, mainly crap ones with imbalances and toxicity. My daughter is desperate for me to settle down (her father is not in our lives), and I am trying to get out there and meet ‘the one’ but I just can’t connect with anyone emotionally. I had a happy upbringing with positive dad influence and I want that for her. I’ve done a lot of work on myself, with therapy to get to a good place, but I worry that I’m in such a good place that I don’t have space for a man to take up my time.

I really feel like giving up this time. No more speedating, apps, blind dates for example. I wouldn’t mind if it were just me. But one day when my daughter is grown, and even during that journey, I would like to share with someone ‘special’.

has this happened to you? Did you give up or keep going? Is my soulmate really out there?

You are a bit full of how wonderful you are. Mr Perfect often turns out to be Mr Dissapointing.

FluffyPineapples · 28/11/2024 09:03

It sounds like your attraction towards people is pretty skin-deep and fairly superficial.

At the age you are, you're unlikely to find many male George Clooneys etc. But equally, you should be open to giving more people a chance - looks fade, but if finding someone is truly important to you, you might find someone you initially overlooked turns out to be a great partner once you get to know them for longer. Depends what you're really after - do you want a proper connection, or are you just being driven by lust/excitement? Is it a relationship you want, or something more casual?

Or maybe you're demisexual and only feel a strong attraction to people once you've formed an emotional connection?

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 10:13

Wishitwasstraightforward · 28/11/2024 08:42

That is my experience also @LostittoBostik. I sometimes wonder if now that my biological clock has struck midnight I am somehow much less tolerant of inadequate men and much more content as a single person than I was previously.

Post divorce I'm not looking for a relationship. Previously I've felt something was missing when I didn't have a partner. These days I feel very settled with no desire to look for a relationship. I'm looking forward to my future and don't see that involving a man.

Struck midnight 😅

my sex drive is super low now I’m finding. So navigating relationships without the sexual attraction is new and confusing for me. While a lot of my male friends keep their sex drive but get weirder in what they want.

we really are from Venus and they from Mars

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Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 10:16

Jazzjazzjazz · 27/11/2024 10:18

I don’t like anyone either, but unlike you I don’t do dating, so haven’t even tried, but I prefer to get to know someone naturally, dates would feel forced. if I meet someone I have that spark with, then it’s going to be a needle in a haystack kind of guy, and meant to be. If I don’t, I’m happier alone than with someone in not 100% into. I was single ten years, then met someone I was crazy about, together a couple of years, didn’t work out because he had major issues with lying and all sorts. Been single now for 3 years

I’m sorry it didn’t work out with him.

how was he different in the beginning though? Enough to make you develop a relationship? Were his red flags there in the beginning?

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Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 10:38

Viviennemary · 28/11/2024 08:45

You are a bit full of how wonderful you are. Mr Perfect often turns out to be Mr Dissapointing.

What part exactly? And is there any reason why shouldn’t like myself?

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Jazzjazzjazz · 28/11/2024 11:45

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 10:16

I’m sorry it didn’t work out with him.

how was he different in the beginning though? Enough to make you develop a relationship? Were his red flags there in the beginning?

I knew him for years. He was always clearly aesthetically handsome, very charming, seemed very kind, confident, but none of that would have swept me off my feet. It was getting to know him more one to one out of our group setting. I already thought he was a great guy, but lots of conversations over many months showed we were on the same page about pretty much everything, and I just fell very hard for him, and he for me, so it seemed. The connection was very strong so developed from knowing him as part of a crowd, to intimate friend, to falling in love. Never fancied or loved someone more than I did him. Sadly he had some quite serious issues with porn, poor boundaries with women, none of which had been apparent before. We had different values in areas that were too much for me to overcome at my age, I found that he enjoyed me being a bit insecure, and he also employed gaslighting and manipulative behaviour to make me seek to please him even more. I was understanding, but then he’d push the boundaries even more. In order not to lose my temper, I wrote him a letter saying that my boundaries are clear, and if we are not on the same page, we need to end it. This letter finally made him “agree to what I wanted from a relationship”, but later I discovered he was just telling me what I wanted to hear, so I broke up with him, and never saw him again. He left me suicidal voice messages etc, but it was clear that the future would be him lying, gaslighting and semi cheating, and me riddled with insecurities always having to tel him how I should be treated- that wasn’t the future I wanted, I knew it was a dead end.

Jazzjazzjazz · 28/11/2024 11:47

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 10:38

What part exactly? And is there any reason why shouldn’t like myself?

Just ignore them. I like you, you seem like a nice person who is just not connecting with anyone romantically which is normal. Don’t settle or sell yourself short, when you know there’s something there, you know

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 12:41

Jazzjazzjazz · 28/11/2024 11:45

I knew him for years. He was always clearly aesthetically handsome, very charming, seemed very kind, confident, but none of that would have swept me off my feet. It was getting to know him more one to one out of our group setting. I already thought he was a great guy, but lots of conversations over many months showed we were on the same page about pretty much everything, and I just fell very hard for him, and he for me, so it seemed. The connection was very strong so developed from knowing him as part of a crowd, to intimate friend, to falling in love. Never fancied or loved someone more than I did him. Sadly he had some quite serious issues with porn, poor boundaries with women, none of which had been apparent before. We had different values in areas that were too much for me to overcome at my age, I found that he enjoyed me being a bit insecure, and he also employed gaslighting and manipulative behaviour to make me seek to please him even more. I was understanding, but then he’d push the boundaries even more. In order not to lose my temper, I wrote him a letter saying that my boundaries are clear, and if we are not on the same page, we need to end it. This letter finally made him “agree to what I wanted from a relationship”, but later I discovered he was just telling me what I wanted to hear, so I broke up with him, and never saw him again. He left me suicidal voice messages etc, but it was clear that the future would be him lying, gaslighting and semi cheating, and me riddled with insecurities always having to tel him how I should be treated- that wasn’t the future I wanted, I knew it was a dead end.

God. That must have been so hard. From
knowing he was a good guy, to him taking you to that place of darkness. Been similar once or twice. Makes me distrust men a lot and have started to wonder if I should give up. It’s for my daughter I live in hope to show her what a good man is, but it’s so hard

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Seaoftroubles · 28/11/2024 13:03

@Glittercloud17 l think you sound great and it's good that you are proud of your independence and high boundaries.
Sadly there aren't that many great older guys out there as all the good ones are taken or else get snapped up very quickly.
I expect the ones you describe as fabulous weren't that perfect or you'd have been interested. However If it's lack of sexual attraction due to peri then hrt an help restore your libido and might help.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 28/11/2024 14:23

@Glittercloud17 you always get people coming on to threads about dating telling you to go for people you may not find attractive or a connection with. That you should lower your standards as looks fade etc. That you're up yourself for having standards (part of me thinks it's either women who think anyone single doesn't deserve anyone attractive or men who are bitter).

It may be news to them but some women don't want to settle for someone they don't find attractive or have anything in common with. I did that when I was younger and vowed never again.

Also I believe there are great guys out there, you won't connect with all of them but then you just need the one.

ByGentleFatball · 28/11/2024 14:32

Are you expecting some instant spark? I think with age and/or lower libido, that spark isn't going to happen very often at all.

These guys you meet, the good ones, have you ever thought of just spending more time with some of the people you meet? Even as friends? Maybe that will give the chance for a slow burn..

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 16:21

ByGentleFatball · 28/11/2024 14:32

Are you expecting some instant spark? I think with age and/or lower libido, that spark isn't going to happen very often at all.

These guys you meet, the good ones, have you ever thought of just spending more time with some of the people you meet? Even as friends? Maybe that will give the chance for a slow burn..

I have with some of them. But I feel it turn to platonic friendships from my side pretty quickly. One guy I tried dating for about 3 months, then the expectation of sex was cropping up. I just couldn’t go ahead with it and broke up with him.

As many have said, my sex drive is lower now, and navigating relationships without the rampant sex desire is new and confusing for me. I would love to date without sex!

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Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 16:22

ByGentleFatball · 28/11/2024 14:32

Are you expecting some instant spark? I think with age and/or lower libido, that spark isn't going to happen very often at all.

These guys you meet, the good ones, have you ever thought of just spending more time with some of the people you meet? Even as friends? Maybe that will give the chance for a slow burn..

And I don’t usually expect sparks, but I would like it if it meant it was a clear sign I liked them.

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Beastiesandthebeauty · 28/11/2024 16:25

Ironically when I shut myself down the absolute love of my life came along in the strangest of ways !

Marypoppinss · 28/11/2024 16:53

Glittercloud17 · 28/11/2024 16:21

I have with some of them. But I feel it turn to platonic friendships from my side pretty quickly. One guy I tried dating for about 3 months, then the expectation of sex was cropping up. I just couldn’t go ahead with it and broke up with him.

As many have said, my sex drive is lower now, and navigating relationships without the rampant sex desire is new and confusing for me. I would love to date without sex!

You date for three months without having sex? No wonder it turns platonic, most men would get bored and look elsewhere.

frozendaisy · 28/11/2024 16:56

All you can do OP is keep meeting people and hope for the best.

Wanting a perfect guy for a fabulous relationship without sex or very little is a hard ask. If you don't have intimacy it's just friendship really, which is also fine, but it's the intimacy which defines the difference between two people hanging out and two people being together.

Saying that as they age they start getting erectile issues so you might get lucky with one of those.

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