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My therapist googled my daughter

137 replies

VaseHalfFull · 05/10/2024 13:06

Just started some psychotherapy as trying to process why my adult daughter who is struggling has again stopped speaking to me. In session 2 the therapist revealed that she had googled my daughter. I think this is not Ok. But not sure if this is now normal practice. Just asking for reality check in a wobbly time.

OP posts:
Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:09

Differentstarts · 05/10/2024 15:37

I don't work in health care I'm the patient searching drs and mh workers

I'd be asking what it was you needed to know and why

shesamarshmallow · 05/10/2024 16:14

Therapists work with what the client brings. It’s never appropriate for them to Google clients or anyone clients mention.

LettuceSpray · 05/10/2024 16:15

@samanthablues therapists don’t ‘diagnose’ their clients though. They don’t have patients. I think you are confusing them with psychiatrists.

Differentstarts · 05/10/2024 16:16

Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:09

I'd be asking what it was you needed to know and why

Firstly I'm checking your not a weirdo or a criminal. Secondly I always think appointments especially mh appointments are so one sided (as they should be) you are potentially spending several hours a week with a person for years telling them every single part of your life and it kind of bugs me that I know nothing about them as a person. If I know a bit about their day to day life I feel like their more relatable. Plus I always have this weird thing where I fall in love and become obsessed with anyone who is nice to me 😬

Underthere · 05/10/2024 16:20

That sounds disconcerting. I'd bring it up with your therapist, though, and tell her how you feel about it, rather than report her behind her back (unless she doesn't respond well or has upset you in other ways).

LBFseBrom · 05/10/2024 16:25

Your daughter wouldn't have known your therapist googled her if no contact was made, surely? I google all sorts of people, usually if someone is mentioned and I don't know them. I have no doubt therapists google their clients and people concerned with/related to them if they know their names but they don't do anything with the knowledge. They are strictly confidential, have to be and for good reason.

I am very surprised you were told, frankly. Don't tell your daughter if you haven't already (I have yet to read all your posts) !

Chestnut19 · 05/10/2024 16:26

PandaOrLion · 05/10/2024 13:32

The term therapist isn’t a protected title. Anyone can call themselves a therapist, or can do a 6 week course and still set themselves up with some of the professional bodies.

end the work and find someone else.

This! I actually think some are worse than not having it at all because it’s so badly regulated and exploited, quite frightening really! I would recommend you look for a clinical psychologist who provides counselling as they are actually regulated!

If your therapist is a clinical psychologist (doubtful) then get in touch with the professional conduct authority about your concerns www.hcpc-uk.org/standards/standards-of-proficiency/practitioner-psychologists/

Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:29

You cannot register with the BACP after a 6 week course.

My course has taken 3 years plus a minimum of 150 client hours as a trainee plus a VIVA before I can be registered with the BACP.

dutysuite · 05/10/2024 16:29

Last year I did CBT for anxiety and the first person I spoke to insisted I start talking about my kids, they wanted to know more about my kids than about my anxiety and they would not move on until I had answered their questions such as their full names and ages in the end I terminated the call and asked for someone else.

Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:30

Chestnut19 · 05/10/2024 16:26

This! I actually think some are worse than not having it at all because it’s so badly regulated and exploited, quite frightening really! I would recommend you look for a clinical psychologist who provides counselling as they are actually regulated!

If your therapist is a clinical psychologist (doubtful) then get in touch with the professional conduct authority about your concerns www.hcpc-uk.org/standards/standards-of-proficiency/practitioner-psychologists/

A psychologist is not a counsellor.

Goxhound · 05/10/2024 16:31

samanthablues · 05/10/2024 16:02

Imagine a patient coming to you stating he’s some sort of high flying jet setter and CEO travelling all over the world very stressed out, imagine you look him up on (let’s say LinkedIn) and discover he’s actually employed in an Amazon warehouse, I’m pretty sure your “diagnosis” of this patient would really take a U turn… I once dated a guy who swore he was a communications director and after two weeks I discover he was a builder who had been just discharged from a psych facility, humans are interesting creatures.

Edited

But what's better a treatment based on actual needs rather than a presumed treatment based on hypothetical?

SiobhanSharpe · 05/10/2024 16:32

Differentstarts · 05/10/2024 16:16

Firstly I'm checking your not a weirdo or a criminal. Secondly I always think appointments especially mh appointments are so one sided (as they should be) you are potentially spending several hours a week with a person for years telling them every single part of your life and it kind of bugs me that I know nothing about them as a person. If I know a bit about their day to day life I feel like their more relatable. Plus I always have this weird thing where I fall in love and become obsessed with anyone who is nice to me 😬

Edited

Oh Jesus. If that's true then you sound liked a stalker.

Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:34

SiobhanSharpe · 05/10/2024 16:32

Oh Jesus. If that's true then you sound liked a stalker.

It's actually fairly common in clients or patients that want to feel they have control over the people around them, usually due to not having much control in their life or childhood.

Goxhound · 05/10/2024 16:37

Googling patients can actually help therapists provide better and more informed treatment in certain situations. While there are ethical concerns, online searches can offer additional context about a patient’s background, lifestyle, or any public struggles they may not feel comfortable bringing up in therapy. For example, if a patient is hesitant to discuss their social or legal problems but has them publicly posted online, a therapist can better understand the full picture and adjust their approach accordingly.

Additionally, having access to this extra information can help therapists spot discrepancies between what a patient says and what’s happening in their life, allowing them to address any denial or avoidance that might be present. This can lead to more effective interventions, especially if the patient is struggling to be open about difficult topics.

Chestnut19 · 05/10/2024 16:39

Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:30

A psychologist is not a counsellor.

Therapist providing counselling then! Regardless of the official terminology… I don’t work in healthcare but I do see a clinical psychologist for counselling which is part of my therapy! It’s been paid for by my Health insurance for years now.

Differentstarts · 05/10/2024 16:41

Blanketyre · 05/10/2024 16:34

It's actually fairly common in clients or patients that want to feel they have control over the people around them, usually due to not having much control in their life or childhood.

Thankyou this is 100% correct and thanks for not thinking I'm a weirdo as I know how it sounds 🙈

Differentstarts · 05/10/2024 16:45

SignInMode · 05/10/2024 16:07

You need therapy!

I'm in therapy having been most of my life as you can see it's going great 🤣🤣

Garlicbest · 05/10/2024 16:49

I've got to say this wouldn't bother me (I've done 10 years of intensive therapy). I can only give my perspective on the people in my life, and I can certainly envisage situations where a therapist might think it useful to see other people's perspectives. I'd prefer them to ask whether I minded them googling but, when it comes down to it, anybody can google, I can't stop them!

Can you put your finger on what disturbed you about this, @VaseHalfFull?

NewFriendlyLadybird · 05/10/2024 16:52

whsm17 · 05/10/2024 14:14

I'd not trust that person it's breaching the confidentiality and also scary that my info is leaked . Another reason I cannot be open to other people .

Am I missing something but how is it breaching confidentiality to look up public information?

If the therapist isn’t supposed to know about other members of a patient’s family, how are relatives of famous people ever supposed to get therapy if they need it?

Telling the OP about it was a bit of an oops, but there’s every chance social media algorithms could put two and two together and present a profile to the therapist anyway.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 05/10/2024 16:55

In the real world if a therapist looked up anyone online, that’s their business.
What is unprofessional is bringing into the room. You are the client, not your daughter, and the work is with you.
Make sure they are BACP accredited OP.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 05/10/2024 17:02

dutysuite · 05/10/2024 16:29

Last year I did CBT for anxiety and the first person I spoke to insisted I start talking about my kids, they wanted to know more about my kids than about my anxiety and they would not move on until I had answered their questions such as their full names and ages in the end I terminated the call and asked for someone else.

That is very shocking if just went for CBT for anxiety

dutysuite · 05/10/2024 17:04

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 05/10/2024 17:02

That is very shocking if just went for CBT for anxiety

Yes and it actually made me feel worse too. Thankfully the next one I had was brilliant.

Conniebygaslight · 05/10/2024 17:10

Completely unacceptable. Your therapist shouldn’t have any need to Google your DD to gain any other perspective than yours. If this person isn’t a member of a reputable organisation such as BACP or UKCP (for which you have to study to a very high standard and have on going training). Then I’d suggest you find someone who is, if she is registered then she needs reporting. You no longer trust her in either scenario so that will be a block to therapy. She has seriously overstepped a boundary OP.

RichTea90 · 05/10/2024 17:17

dutysuite · 05/10/2024 16:29

Last year I did CBT for anxiety and the first person I spoke to insisted I start talking about my kids, they wanted to know more about my kids than about my anxiety and they would not move on until I had answered their questions such as their full names and ages in the end I terminated the call and asked for someone else.

If this was a part of the initial assessment, then they are required to ask the ages at the very least of your children and their names because it’s for safeguarding reasons. For example if you were to disclose that their father was physically abusing them in a therapy session, they’d need to refer to social services. I don’t have children (yet) but if I did, I’ve no problem providing their names for this reason.

MelainesLaugh · 05/10/2024 17:20

It is strange, but how old is your DD and is it relevant to what you spoke to her about? EG was there a situation you talked about and she was trying to get more information on it.