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What to do about this man?

253 replies

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 08:01

Background: I have a long term partner, very happy with him.

A few weeks ago I bumped into a man I last met many years ago. He remembered me but I didn't really remember him, although I knew who he was as we have a shared friend.

We had a really great conversation as we have a lot in common. We continued the conversation online. Over a few days things became a bit more deep and meaningful and also flirty. I shut it down and made clear that I have a partner that I care about very much. He said he only wants to be friends, although he finds me attractive. He begged me not to block him. It seemed obvious that he didn't have that many friends and he seemed very upset at the thought of me cutting him off now that we had reconnected after so many years. He said he 'lost me once and doesn't want to lose me again'. So instead of blocking him I've tried to scale back communication.

However for every message I send he sends me 10. He sends me music, poems, stories, jokes, quotes, memes, lots of thoughtful reflective voice notes. He can be very funny and charming and I've found myself quite drawn into the conversation at times and sort of charmed by him.
Other times, I'm just too tired to bother engaging with what he's sent. He sends meaningful videos and songs and I tell him that I'm not likely to open them. I tell him that the level of communication is too much for me.

When I try and distance myself by not responding for many days he tells me that I'm punishing him, that it's unfair and all he wants is to be friends. I said it doesn't seem possible to just be friends, but he is very insistent that he just wants friendship and I'm the one making it into a problem. Meanwhile he continues to make flirty comments which I now just ignore.

I'm not sure how to deal with this man. Ordinarily I would block him but I know he would be very emotionally affected by it, incredibly upset and he would probably try and contact me via other platforms with a barrage of messages. We also have a shared friend so I don't want to rock the boat by taking such drastic action.

My new strategy is to do a slow fade. I'm trying to be as boring as possible and only reply to very direct/essential questions and leave big gaps. It feels really horrible and mean. I feel sorry for him. It's sad because I do really like him, we've had some fantastic conversations, and he's very funny and kind, but now he must think I've had a lobotomy because I only respond by one word answers. I know this change is making him feel uneasy and upset. However I feel like I am being manipulated somehow (am I?). Has anyone been in this situation before and can give any advice? As I've said before, blocking isn't really an option due to our mutual friends and his emotional reactions.

How can I keep my boundaries without causing him a lot of hurt and pain? I don't mind being friends but he seems overly invested in our connection, despite me repeatedly talking about how much I love my partner and would never cheat on him.

OP posts:
Borninabarn32 · 03/10/2024 12:28

Dudes a creep. Block him.

samanthablues · 03/10/2024 12:37

@Courgettesandonions I'm not sure how to deal with this man. Ordinarily I would block him but I know he would be very emotionally affected by it, incredibly upset and he would probably try and contact me via other platforms with a barrage of messages.

This guy is not well in the head and you sound a people pleaser afraid of confrontation. He’s not respecting your time nor your boundaries, sounds unhinged, needy and obsessed. Do your mental health a favour and Block this pest, no explanations given.

samanthablues · 03/10/2024 12:45

My apologies I didn’t read your last update. Well done for blocking him.

Nanny0gg · 03/10/2024 12:53

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 08:31

No he doesn't. This was my biggest mistake. I should have said something to my partner from the beginning, but now I realised I've been an idiot and got myself into a situation. I was worried that DP would be upset that had been some flirting. I did shut it down but he has continued sending flirty/suggestive messages and I have not been strong enough to block because of the emotional manipulation I have described above.

Have you spoken to mutual friend?

MrSeptember · 03/10/2024 13:22

What amazes me about this is how as women, we are SO socialised to take responsibility for everyone else's emotions. You owe this man NOTHING, and yet, you felt obligated to make yourself uncomfortabel and unhappy because he told you that you had to. And while there are loads of peopl on here telling you to block etc, and of course, that's right, the truth is that this happens all the time.

Well done for realising and doing what needed to be done. Just remind yourself that he has begged you adn told you that you MUST live by his boundarie, while not respecting even one of yours in return.

PuzzleMix · 03/10/2024 13:26

I've posted about a similar situation, though not quite as extreme as yours. You have my sympathy and here is yet another example of a man who cannot behave normally 'as friends' and has to take it to weird levels.

I know it's hard and you may feel bad but you really do need to block him on everything. Don't tell him. Just do it! Protect yourself. And tell your partner. My DH knows all about my scenario and I feel better and safer that he is aware of my worries.

Good luck.

PuzzleMix · 03/10/2024 13:28

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 12:20

I had made my boundaries clear to him. I had requested many times that he scale back on the number of messages and avoid any flirty/sexual/romantic topics. He didn't stop when I asked and continued despite receiving zero encouragement from me. He went on a complete charm offensive, lots of funny thoughtful messages, songs, poems, lots of attention. Way too much and not at all appropriate. I would have been friends with him if he had acted like a normal person, but thanks to MN encouragement I've now blocked him and hopefully made clear that there is a consequence to overstepping my boundaries. It's hard when you're in it and can't see the wood for the trees, which is why I needed this thread. I just need to stand resolute now. Thanks all

Well done!

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 13:37

PuzzleMix · 03/10/2024 13:26

I've posted about a similar situation, though not quite as extreme as yours. You have my sympathy and here is yet another example of a man who cannot behave normally 'as friends' and has to take it to weird levels.

I know it's hard and you may feel bad but you really do need to block him on everything. Don't tell him. Just do it! Protect yourself. And tell your partner. My DH knows all about my scenario and I feel better and safer that he is aware of my worries.

Good luck.

Thank you. Glad things worked out for you. I will definitely tell DP, although I know he will be upset that I didn't tell him sooner. I feel terrible about that.

OP posts:
HScully · 03/10/2024 13:49

Crushed23 · 03/10/2024 11:47

I recognise this so much. I remember being in a gay bar and a (straight) man bought me a drink and I felt obliged to talk to him even though he was unspeakably dull and quite creepy.

This was in my early 20s, I absolutely would not entertain this now in my 30s. I couldn't care less about men's egos.

I was in a gay bar too! Is this where predatory men hang out?

wwjalme · 03/10/2024 13:54

HScully · 03/10/2024 13:49

I was in a gay bar too! Is this where predatory men hang out?

Probably. They think it will be easier to pull any women who might happen to be there or that women's guards might be down because they are expecting all the men there to be gay.

Inspireme2 · 03/10/2024 14:00

He is a emotional baggage you do not need.
He claims he only wants to be friends, nonsense.
Block.
You owe this mess nothing.

Hoppinggreen · 03/10/2024 14:02

Tbry24 · 03/10/2024 10:45

Just start sending a friendly style email or texted just once a month. Reply to the first response then none of the others. And/Or just post things on Facebook or equivalent nice photos of you and partner doing lovely things together and he can just reply to them.

And btw flirting is emotional based cheating…..my DP and I would split up over that.

Why?
Why does she need to be in contact at all with this froot loop?

RetroTotty · 03/10/2024 14:02

What amazes me about this is how as women, we are SO socialised to take responsibility for everyone else's emotions. You owe this man NOTHING, and yet, you felt obligated to make yourself uncomfortabel and unhappy because he told you that you had to.

The above shows just how dangerous female socialisation is for us.

workplaceshenanigans · 03/10/2024 14:27

Perhaps it might be worth casually mentioning to your mutual friend that this man has been sending you weird messages and you asked him to stop but he didn't, so you've had to block him. Just in case he tries contacting your friend. At least she will then have the heads-up.

Spooks139 · 03/10/2024 14:30

HScully · 03/10/2024 13:49

I was in a gay bar too! Is this where predatory men hang out?

I’ve never really thought about it before but this is actually not a crazy suggestion.

Lots of straight women end up in gay bars, but not many straight men. I can see the logic of weirdos who fail to pull in a room where women have many other options would think their chances are increased in a setting where they are the only option.

ellebelli · 03/10/2024 14:46

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 08:11

I did explain to him that I wasn't comfortable and that I was going to block him. He had a meltdown, sent me a barrage of voice notes in which it sounded like he was crying. I relented and said that ok I won't block him but I won't be responding to him as it was all too much. He begged me to be friends with him.

He doesn't sound very mentally stable.
Just ignore his messages if you don't want to actually block him.

beanii · 03/10/2024 14:46

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 10:40

Thank you. I just tried this but it wouldn't let me go back into WhatsApp without fixing the date settings back to normal. I'm on android.
What's weird is that when I go into the WhatsApp web version it looks like all of his messages have now disappeared leaving only mine. But on my phone both of our messages are still there.

You can delete your messages so that neither you or he can see them.

Block and ignore - he's done his magic and made you feel guilty - that's nothing more than manipulation.

PattiSmithsPattis · 03/10/2024 15:18

I have been to many gay bars and clubs. I can confirm there are predatory straight males and predatory couples occasionally. As there are in any pub or club.
@Courgettesandonions , I think you did the right thing blocking him. I personally would have done it sooner. Whether he actually has poor mental health or not, he got into your head because you allowed it.
How is your mental health? Sounds like you were receptive to love bombing type behaviour from him. Hope everything feels calmer soon 🌺

Chillilounger · 03/10/2024 21:26

Quite aside from this being unfair on your partner he isn't respecting your boundaries. I would block.

PuzzleMix · 04/10/2024 02:44

beanii · 03/10/2024 14:46

You can delete your messages so that neither you or he can see them.

Block and ignore - he's done his magic and made you feel guilty - that's nothing more than manipulation.

Edited

I didn't know this...might have to look into it myself!

DeepRoseFish · 04/10/2024 03:41

He does not want to be your friend. Block him and don't tell him beforehand.

tropicalfizz · 04/10/2024 05:28

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 08:18

It hasn't been clear because of the manipulation angle. He has shared a lot with me and seems emotionally reliant on me. It has all happened so quickly. If I block him he will email me. I can block him on the other platforms. I'm worried that he will become very upset and even angry. I can't tell you the amount of times he has asked me never to block him. He must have said it 50 times in the space of a couple of weeks. He uses very apocalyptic language around it like it would be the worst thing to ever happen to him. I'm worried and scared of doing it tbh.

Well then you go to the police. Because ultimately this is harassment.
This man sounds unhinged. I know you feel sorry for him but why are you people pleasing. You're worried about his feelings and reaction. What about your feelings and what you want? He isn't thinking that about you is he? Just wants what he wants.
He sounds obsessive and that's not normal. I'd block and if he communicates other ways then go to the policd

FerienInLipizza · 04/10/2024 09:05

Courgettesandonions · 03/10/2024 13:37

Thank you. Glad things worked out for you. I will definitely tell DP, although I know he will be upset that I didn't tell him sooner. I feel terrible about that.

When you talk to DP, frame it as, 'I am telling you this because I am possibly about to go to the Police about someone and also, I have been an idiot'

Because of his behaviour in trampling all over all boundaries you have tried to put in place, if there is one more contact from him, it might be wise to speak to the Police about this man OP.

I know you were friends once but this is very unlikely to be his first time around with this crap as it's all so slick.

MNers might think this is an over-reaction but he sounds so pushy and manipulative that I would not trust him to not escalate and if he continues to push and a cop has a word, it might make him stop this shit entirely.

Courgettesandonions · 04/10/2024 11:08

FerienInLipizza · 04/10/2024 09:05

When you talk to DP, frame it as, 'I am telling you this because I am possibly about to go to the Police about someone and also, I have been an idiot'

Because of his behaviour in trampling all over all boundaries you have tried to put in place, if there is one more contact from him, it might be wise to speak to the Police about this man OP.

I know you were friends once but this is very unlikely to be his first time around with this crap as it's all so slick.

MNers might think this is an over-reaction but he sounds so pushy and manipulative that I would not trust him to not escalate and if he continues to push and a cop has a word, it might make him stop this shit entirely.

Thanks. I don't have any indication that he is a threat to my physical safety or that he is going to come after me, so I don't think involving the police is at all appropriate. If things escalated then yes but no sign of that at all.

OP posts:
Dotty87 · 04/10/2024 12:21

I really would advise speaking to the police, he may not have threatened you however please re-read your earlier post

"If I block him he will email me. I can block him on the other platforms. I'm worried that he will become very upset and even angry. I can't tell you the amount of times he has asked me never to block him. He must have said it 50 times in the space of a couple of weeks. He uses very apocalyptic language around it like it would be the worst thing to ever happen to him. I'm worried and scared of doing it tbh."

This man is unhinged and likely to become angry, you don't know how he will react to that. Please be cautious and look out for yourself, whatever trouble he gets into is his own doing.