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Husband abandoned me and two kids by text message and emigrated to New Zealand

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Cleme · 20/09/2024 05:50

It has been a difficult time. Two weeks ago my husband of 17 years abandoned me and my two children, 9 and 13. He did this by text message when we were walking back from swimming. It was 4 days before ny daughter's birthday. Just writing this makes me feel appauled by his behaviour.

He has gone to New Zealand to start a new life with a woman he met online. He met her a few years ago but only met her last October in person for the the first time. He told me he had been offered a work opportunity and went for 10 days. I thought it was a bit odd but I didn't question it. I always trusted him. I always supported him in what he wanted to do.

When he came back he told me he was leaving me for this woman. I pleaded with him to stay. In the end he did. He promised to cut contact. I thought he had but he never did. Behind my back he applied for a job out there and arranged his visa and medical.

I thought we were working through things. We went on holiday over the summer, had a good time.

The last few years have been a bit tricky. His mother died from cancer this year after a long illness. He has been drinking heavily and on the sly.

I am so desperate for me and my children. I did love him very much. How can I get over this and move forward. At the moment I can't get out of a constant doom-loop of no sleep, crying and messaging him.

OP posts:
martinisforeveryone · 20/09/2024 12:53

@Cleme you sound like a terrific woman. You are articulate and strong and will recover from this devastating betrayal. I'm so pleased you have brilliant children and supportive friends and family. If you are in my neck of the woods I'd be happy to support you too.

Crack on with the driving. Look at the millions who do it world wide. You're every bit as capable and after all, you won't have to go tearing around city centres and up and down motorways, not until you're ready.

Do a physical home detox. Get hold of as many empty cardboard boxes and storage bags and clear out anything that doesn't make you happy right now. If you don't have a garage or a loft to store them ask family or friends to take them for a while just until you see if you've done the right thing and yes, to buying new bedlinen and bits for your room.

These things and sorting out your new routine will be empowering and you can take it from there.

Obviously when he was with you, you helped make him the decent human being he appeared to be. Now he has a new 'partner' he's exposed as a heartless and devious shit that you wouldn't give house room to if you met him like this.

Wishing you all the best and hoping that karma takes massive chunks out of his sorry arse and doesn't waste any time about it.

Cotonsugar · 20/09/2024 12:55

FreeRider · 20/09/2024 10:40

My father did something like this when I was 12, but in reverse - we were living in the UK after coming here after years of my mother being a 'trailing spouse', following around what were then called 3rd world countries for his work (not military).

My mother is Australian, both myself and my younger brother were born there after they moved back there from the UK when my older brother was 6 months old.

After a visit from my Australian grandmother during the summer, my father suddenly became very keen for us all to move back to Oz...which was weird because the reason he'd started working abroad in the first place was because he disliked Oz so much...he'd even refused citizenship when it was offered after living there for 7 years. So to move back he had to apply for a new visa - the arrangement was that if it didn't come back in time, myself, my brothers and my mother would fly out to Oz first and my father would join us as soon as it did.

Literally on the day we were flying my mother found out it was all a lie - his passport arrived in the morning and my father confessed that he had lied about giving notice at his job, and had in fact arranged new accomodation for himself in the UK for after we'd left! (looking back now my mother is pretty sure he was having an affair with a work colleague and was moving in with her). He was going to wait until we'd arrived back in Oz to tell my mother he wasn't coming, he was staying in the UK. My Australian grandmother was very wealthy and he knew that she wouldn't have let us all starve/be homeless!

What makes a bad story even worse is that even after my father confessed all of the above, my mother still stayed with him! We did move back to Oz, had a very miserable 18 months there until we came back to the UK. 9 years later, 6 months after my younger brother turned 18, my father left my mother for another woman. That was 35 years ago and he's still married to the other woman...

To be honest, I wish my father's plan had succeeded. It would have been horrible at first, but at least myself and my brothers would have been back in our home country, settled, and my parents wouldn't have been living a lie for 9 years. My mother was still young enough that she could have made a good new life for herself .

There are no words! The deviousness at the heart of this story is mind boggling 😟 I hope you have managed to have a good life 😊

DivorcingMomma · 20/09/2024 12:56

Wow op, just read the thread thats shocking 😳

what do you reckon the chances are of it working out for him with the other woman in NZ?! Its a shame hes done this to you and the kids. You sound so much stronger as a person as the comments have rolled on on here. I do hope you manage to start your life again and move on from this.

sweetpeaorchestra · 20/09/2024 12:58

I hope his new job is a total disaster. Unquestionably his new relationship and home-life will be. What a pathetic idiot.

obviously all the posts re learning to drive, solicitor etc are very important but you will still have days I’m sure just needing to cry in bed. It’s almost a physical pain when you’ve loved someone to experience that betrayal and abandonment.
Have those days too. At some point it will be like you’ve shed a skin and a weight is off your shoulders and you’ll be enjoying a wonderful life with your DC.

And his life will be a dumpster fire. Smelling of dog poo hopefully x

Avertmyeyes · 20/09/2024 13:10

He is going to have to pay child support no matter what.
If you find out where he is working you can call HR and say you (or just talk to anyone … gossip travels fast)

Sorry to bother you, recent employee X has abandoned family in UK with no financial suppport. His new girlfriend is suicidal and he feels she needs him more than we do.
I am working with immigration and lawyers. Can you please confirm who at your company is in charge of HR/ Payroll so that the lawyers can get documentation of income and immigration status.

We are also concerned that he might try to take the children which willl be a criminal act.

Spread his dirty laundry for all to see.

Embarrass him.

BlackShuck3 · 20/09/2024 13:10

I'm so sorry OP, I highly doubt that his new life will work out well for him.
He will reap what he has sowed.

Dolphinnoises · 20/09/2024 13:12

DoreenonTill8 · 20/09/2024 12:19

Yes, and me-railing! Other posters personal sharing is at least relevant, but what you've taken from pps nightmare is to share you 'don't like dogs' ?!

Oh give over. Mercifully the OP is more mature than this and took it in the spirit it was intended.

Avertmyeyes · 20/09/2024 13:13

She might be a scammer too. Uncle in NZ has fallen for a scammer. She has all these “problems” she lives in NZ with family in China and needs money. Her car broke needs money.
We are certain she has a husband in China.

She has scammed him out of loads of money. Same too that it’s over internet.

She is not a normal person. But love bombs him and controlling. He cannot see it. Next she will be having his baby!

Sunbird24 · 20/09/2024 13:13

Joining In the chorus of him being a complete twat to do this to his family, and adding don’t burn or bin anything he’s left behind that you can sell, even for a few pounds, as it all adds up. Put it towards your driving lessons or a little reliable car.

You need his financial contribution set in stone, and what his plan is for seeing his kids - at his cost. He doesn’t get to just bugger off and pretend they don’t exist any more other than sending some money.

MadeForThis · 20/09/2024 13:14

Find your anger.

Calliopespa · 20/09/2024 13:28

MSLRT · 20/09/2024 12:12

I mean this gently but you sound really patronising.

… and also quite unhelpful.
She’s walked the therapy dog now so why mention you don’t like them. It didn’t eat her or anything 🤷🏻‍♀️

DoreenonTill8 · 20/09/2024 13:33

Dolphinnoises · 20/09/2024 13:12

Oh give over. Mercifully the OP is more mature than this and took it in the spirit it was intended.

Give over? How do you know the 'spirit in which it was intended' unless you wrote it?!

Menapausemum1974 · 20/09/2024 13:36

Cleme · 20/09/2024 06:16

I will investiage this. I guess I thought if he is paying mortgage... You are right all - I need to discuss with solicitor.

@Cleme i tracked down my ex through CSA in Australia and they sent me maintenance cheques each month

AdoraBell · 20/09/2024 13:38

Haven’t RTFT so apologies.

I’m so sorry he has done this to you and your DCs OP as others have said, don’t message him. Get legal advice re child support and get that agreed and locked in while in his happy place. Then treat every interaction as a business/work meeting. Courtesy, direct and no chit chat.

Him- hi (with a big happy grin on his cowardly face) how are you?

You- fine thanks, the DC need x/want to talk to you/need dinner so I can’t chat, bye

That kind of thing.

Lean on your friends and family while you are going through this. And get the house sorted in terms of ownership and mortgage. Again, legal advice for this.

Chessfan · 20/09/2024 13:40

Gosh, I'm so sorry OP. First thing, do am automatic driving test. I was useless at manual but passed first time in an automatic & it feels like driving a golf cart sometimes 😁. It'll definitely make learning quicker & cheaper as you won't need as many lessons. It's life changing to be able to drive.

Second thing, Jesus, he has completely destroyed his own life. Emigrating like this, he has lost his kids already & will never see them. That's beyond tragic. All for a mentally unstable women who he's only met once and tried to commit suicide recently. He'll probably be crying soon, looking at what he's done

Agree with everyone that the texting needs to end forever. Why not set up a new email address with a neutral name for discussion over the kids?

Good luck OP, you do sound very amazing.

Dolphinnoises · 20/09/2024 13:43

DoreenonTill8 · 20/09/2024 13:33

Give over? How do you know the 'spirit in which it was intended' unless you wrote it?!

Because she replied to me. Look, it was a casual aside and part of another more serious point which the OP has already addressed. Don’t derail things with a pile on. I thought very carefully before making that point (kids supporting parents through a divorce), with experience of something similar happening to someone I was close to in the past. Hive mind experience is a great thing about this forum. Let’s agree to disagree and keep the thread where it should be.

scotscorner · 20/09/2024 13:44

Just want to say sorry for what you’re going through.

My aunt had a similar experience - husband ran away to another continent leaving her and their 4 children. Financially he continued to help, but psychologically they were absolutely devastated for a long time.

I won’t pretend it wasn’t incredibly hard for her, but it’s clear that as a result she’s got one very close-knit family (all the children have stayed nearby and see her all the time as adults, as well as her grandchildren) and she has a tight circle of friends as well as having thrown herself into charity work for an organisation which really helped her early on. This isn’t the life you planned, but you can and will heal, and you can one day be happy again 💐

nutrosti · 20/09/2024 13:49

Cleme · 20/09/2024 06:32

Thank you so much everyone xxx I am feeling a bit better. I have to go and get my son ready for school now. Did I mention that I don't drive and my son's school is 4 miles away so I have had to arrange for a friend to come and give lifts. He loves his school. It is in the same village as my parents so they are having him stay a few days a week to help with all of this.

Ugh. Yes, he really is a disgusting human.

if you can

id be booking driving lessons as a top priority as otherwise you and son are going to be very isolated

nutrosti · 20/09/2024 13:51

Cleme · 20/09/2024 08:50

He was teacher training all year. Even got a job which he pretended to go to for three days before leaving for NZ. He emailed them on the Monday saying he wasn't going to come.

He got up for three days, put on his teacher clothes then came back at the end of the day, normal as can be.

so he’s not all remotely high earning?

how old are your children op?

nutrosti · 20/09/2024 13:54

you need to apply for UC and fast OP

he is low income and you’re only part time

i can’t see how he’s affording to pay your mortgage, flights to NZ and setting up life there.. on a teacher training salary

Cleme · 20/09/2024 14:05

Hello everyone

Thanks so much for all the amazing posts - they are really giving me some much needed clarity.

Following the posts this morning, I was able to go and sleep (I did not sleep much last night).

Regarding the job, it is at the university and as far as I can gather it is well paid. There is lots on their website about relocating from overseas so I guess they helped him with this.

Like everyone on here, I am shocked at how many similar stories there are.

No, this won't be the life I wanted or thought I would have, but I guess I have no choice and will have a better one than him because I have my two amazing children with me (9 and 13 by the way).

I would never take him back now. Apart from my actual repugnance for such a thing, it is obvious from these other stories that they return just to bide their time again.

And yes, driving lessons need to happen soon.

Thanks again!

OP posts:
Cleme · 20/09/2024 14:16

bozzabollix · 20/09/2024 08:21

If you’re anywhere near Kent message me. I’m a driving instructor and would have the biggest incentive to make you into the best driver ever. It’s empowering and by god you need a bit of that at the moment. I’m furious on your behalf.

I can’t believe what this man is done, I know some men think of women as disposable but his kids too? At some point your anger levels will be through the roof. Buy a punchbag now ready, you’ll need it. Stick a picture of his nasty face on it.

Echoing what others have said about therapy. Your children are going to be affected, he’s failed them so badly, it needs processing.

Really feel for you all, what a situation.

Not near Kent, I'm afraid but I feel your positive car driving vibes here out west.

Thank you!

OP posts:
Cleme · 20/09/2024 14:18

pottymouth40 · 20/09/2024 08:29

Oh he’s just a bog-standard, cliched, selfish and callous piece of shit then.

So nice that he “re-assessed his life” and decided that meant abandoning his family and responsibilities and fucking off to Oz. What a joke.

( I’ve held back from saying what I wish for your soon to be exh. )

Well I’m not - I hope he gets bitten on his willy by a red back spider and it turns septic and falls off.

Yep, just bog-standard.

Agree about the spider.

OP posts:
Cleme · 20/09/2024 14:19

Probablywont · 20/09/2024 08:25

I was also going to ask about the head injury but you say he had already booked it months before! Did you know that at the time?

Head injury happened just a month before he went.

He applied for the job in January.

He depended on me to look after him for 3 weeks before he left.

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