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Had a baby by the wrong guy in my 40s...

102 replies

DarkerBerry · 16/09/2024 02:06

I hate society for making single women feel as though they have no value and are undeserving of respect and as though having a man is like sitting on a cloud in heaven.

I had been single for approx. 12 years with a couple a short term boyfriends in between. I'd been on dates but as a single mum of a teenage boy, I was trying to be careful but just couldn't find the right person. Then I met someone on a well known app with a paid service and he absolutely swept me off my feet. Within the first 10 minutes of our 1st conversation, I told him I had a teenage son and he said he loves kids and that it wasn't a problem. We ended up having a whirlwind romance and 2 years later, I'm engaged and have a 6 month old with my partner living with me and my older son.
The thing is he lied about many things and I'm finding out in dribs and drabs. He lied about his age (said he was 48 instead of 54), his level in job (said he was an Executive chef when he is a sous chef), how many children he has (told me he had 2 children when I know he has 3 and actually suspect he has 4), led me to believe he lived with his children (when he never has lived with them). He is also quite trigger-happy to argue and I'm so laid back and calm, it just doesn't suit well with my personality at all. He also spent the first year strongly accusing me of admiring other men when I wasn't which has taken such a toll on our relationship.
The thing that broke my heart was that he doesn't actually like my teenage boy. He would make comments about various things about my son, about how I think of him too much and give my son more attention than he deserves, if my son lies in in the morning, he would call him a 'king' (in private to me) (I'm paraphrasing...) even though my son is a kind and considerate person who hasn't behaved out of line towards my partner at all - if only a little shy as he is a quiet boy.

Due to all this, I've slowly gone off being intimate with him.
When I look back, there were a few signs but as I haven't been heavily experienced, I thought it was just teething problems/that he loved me and was a bit insecure and that was something I could help him through (re: accusations). A majority of the above, I found out/he would tell me after I became pregnant.

More recently, we have just come to the late stages of buying a house together, only to have the mortgage broker tell me he has taken out numerous loans and that because he relies so heavily on credit, it is highly unlikely we'd get the house we choose to purchase.
I take responsibility for rushing into this and the 'I made my bed and I should lay in it' type advice goes without saying. No matter which way I look at things, I no longer love him. He is a good guy in some ways but it's the things I really looked for in a man he lied about. When I find out the truth, he gaslights me and tells me all along he told the truth in the beginning and that I got it wrong, that I'm 'manipulative' and constantly trying to 'twist his words'. I'm trying to hang in there and cope with the decision I made to start a relationship with him and have a child with him, but I'm running out of tactics and strategies. I've been a single mother before and I can do it again but I know he'll put up a fight and won't leave easily. I'm unhappy and although I love my little son so much, sometimes I wish I could go back to being single again. He's actually put me off men completely.

Any advice on either leaving or with how to cope with him for the next 15 years would be grateful.

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2024 02:09

Of course you leave him. Immediately. How can you possibly think otherwise?

MaggieBsBoat · 16/09/2024 02:13

Even without all the lies and gaslighting you could leave him. But he sounds awful.
Life is too short to give any more of it to the man. Seriously.
This is no dress rehearsal.

MumChp · 16/09/2024 02:15

Time to move on. Don't stay with a man like that. You can do better on your own. Good luck.

LifeExperience · 16/09/2024 02:15

Why on earth would you stay with a man who disrespects your teenage son? And don't think for a minute that your son doesn't know how your baby daddy feels--he absolutely does, and he will interpret that as "my mum thinks having a man, any man, even one who doesn't respect me, is more important than I am." You may deserve the bed you've made but your son deserves better. Do the right thing for both your children and get the hell out.

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 16/09/2024 02:19

He doesn’t like your teenage son, that’s reason enough to leave immediately. Why would you stay with him for the next 15 years?

Garlictest · 16/09/2024 02:20

'I made my bed and I should lay in it' is cruel, heartless and takes no account of context or circumstance. I'm sorry that people in your life have taught you this. The reality is that nobody's free of errors; we all deserve chances to acknowledge our mistakes, learn from them and choose to alter course.

The man you're with won your affections by deceit, continues to lie and tries to mislead you. He is not a partner to you, he's a user. Please free yourself of him, forgive yourself and protect your future with your children.

Starlight7080 · 16/09/2024 02:26

Why would you keep someone like that around your son . 2 years and it's already doomed.
He sounds awful . All the lies are enough to end things . Let alone the not liking your son .

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/09/2024 02:35

Where do you live?

Who owns/rents the house?
Who's name is it in?
Who's name are the bills in?
Who pays them?
Does he work?
What does he contribute financially to family finances?

You should leave, however answers to the questions above will give you the right information to do it safely and with more financial and physical security.

PenelopePitStrop · 16/09/2024 03:04

Be careful not to gaslight yourself OP : no one will think “you’ve made your bed “ in this situation, and you don’t need to tell it to yourself.

Likewise blaming ‘society’ for condemning single mothers - that’s no reason to stay with a man you don’t love and who is jealous of and negative about your son.

Please, for the sake of your son, get rid of him. Your son will know and sense this man’s contempt. But being quiet, and kind, he’ll keep quiet and not want to upset you. But it will damage him.

Tigertigertigertiger · 16/09/2024 03:06

I hate society for making single women feel as though they have no value and are undeserving of respect and as though having a man is like sitting on a cloud in heaven

Eh? This is utter nonsense.
Grow a backbone and leave this loser

MillyMollyMandHey · 16/09/2024 03:14

You need to leave him asap, but your little rant about 'society' is nonsense and completely irrelevant. Society didn't make you jump into a relationship and have a baby either a moron. Own your own life.

RawBloomers · 16/09/2024 03:15

Kick him or leave, whichever makes the most sense, with all haste. Do not take your time over this unless your safety is at risk. The current situation is damaging to your DS1 and you.

While you’re at it, consider getting counseling or checking out the Freedom Program or finding some other help. You’ve framed this as being down to societal pressure - that will still be there when you get out of this. You need to find a way to have more confidence in yourself and not be swayed by that pressure into ignore red flags and your DCs’ welfare.

Utterknowitall · 16/09/2024 03:28

My own life was similar. Please break up with him. The relationship won't last so you may as well pull the plaster off now. I am sorry you are in this position. He/ it, isn't going to get better sadly.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 16/09/2024 03:36

The thing is he lied about many things and I'm finding out in dribs and drabs. He lied about his age (said he was 48 instead of 54), his level in job (said he was an Executive chef when he is a sous chef), how many children he has (told me he had 2 children when I know he has 3 and actually suspect he has 4), led me to believe he lived with his children (when he never has lived with them). He is also quite trigger-happy to argue and I'm so laid back and calm, it just doesn't suit well with my personality at all. He also spent the first year strongly accusing me of admiring other men when I wasn't which has taken such a toll on our relationship.
The thing that broke my heart was that he doesn't actually like my teenage boy.

The fact that all happened then you decided to have a baby with him anyway and are still hanging around and trying to buy a house... you can't blame society it's all on you.

No point looking back at the 'should'ves and would'ves', but you can absolutely make better decisions now, and in future.

XChrome · 16/09/2024 03:38

No question about it. Leave! This is not a normal or good person at all. Run like hell from any man who is irrationally possessive and has anger issues. They almost always turn out to be abusers.

WinnyMoms · 16/09/2024 03:40

Kick the bugger out.

DarkerBerry · 16/09/2024 06:20

MillyMollyMandHey · 16/09/2024 03:14

You need to leave him asap, but your little rant about 'society' is nonsense and completely irrelevant. Society didn't make you jump into a relationship and have a baby either a moron. Own your own life.

I get you@MillyMollyMandHey . And I think some posters that have taken the time to post me some advice have taken my lead in comment slightly wrong. I have clearly accepted my responsibility in this situation so I'm not blaming it on society per se. You would be surprised what leads a person to make certain decisions because of their experiences or things that keep being repeated to them throughout life and how in culmination it makes them feel. It's different for everybody. Thanks for posting.

OP posts:
pinkdelight · 16/09/2024 06:25

the 'I made my bed and I should lay in it' type advice goes without saying.

Christ, absolutely no one would advise this. You can't stay with someone who dislikes your son. The rest is terrible too, the lies etc, but for your son alone you must cut your losses and leave. No one dictates that you need a man and certainly not this one. Thank your stars you can get out now before entangling your financial independence with this impending disaster.

Meadowfinch · 16/09/2024 06:35

Leave, as soon as humanly possible. He will be making your poor son's life a misery.

Plus he's dishonest and will ruin you financially.

Divorce asap, while it still counts as a short marriage and while your younger child is too young to expect to live with his dad.

TealSapphire · 16/09/2024 06:48

I get you about society's attitude to single women OP.

Yes, it turns out you picked a dud. But you've had a very lucky escape in not being financially tied to him. Now is the time to end the relationship. I wish I had when issues arose but I hung in there way too long. Most posters on here don't regret ending the relationship they regret not doing it sooner.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 16/09/2024 06:58

Oh my god sis, get away from him. Not just for your sake and your poor baby, but your impressionable teen son. Please don't let your loser partner have any further influence in your son's life. Get out asap.

frozendaisy · 16/09/2024 07:06

Housing is the question.
Does he live in your mortgaged house? If so you can get him to leave even if it isn't easily.
Do you rent together? Then I would make plans to rent elsewhere when you can break tenancy he can stay and pay the lot.
Social housing, who's name is on the tenancy?

And then just tell him being together isn't working out he has to go or you are going whichever is applicable.

Igmum · 16/09/2024 07:09

Leave him. He's dreadful to your son, he's dreadful to you, he'll probably be dreadful to your baby. He lies. He is in debt. Leave him now. Definitely don't buy a house with him. So sorry you have gone through this OP, but thank goodness you found out before buying the house.

BogusHocusPocus · 16/09/2024 07:10

OP, your story resonates with me so much. I haven't had a baby or made plans to move in, but everything else that you describe is extremely familiar.

You need to separate from him as soon as you can and live 'your best life' with your two boys.

It's very easy to believe the facile charm of such men in the early days. The easiest thing in the world. But he wasn't who you thought. This happens in life, it's not the absolute end of the world, but now you move on.

Hugs 🤗

Igmum · 16/09/2024 07:11

BTW I'm a single parent too. Social attitudes to single parents aren't good, but they're a lot better than being with your current partner.