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Had a baby by the wrong guy in my 40s...

102 replies

DarkerBerry · 16/09/2024 02:06

I hate society for making single women feel as though they have no value and are undeserving of respect and as though having a man is like sitting on a cloud in heaven.

I had been single for approx. 12 years with a couple a short term boyfriends in between. I'd been on dates but as a single mum of a teenage boy, I was trying to be careful but just couldn't find the right person. Then I met someone on a well known app with a paid service and he absolutely swept me off my feet. Within the first 10 minutes of our 1st conversation, I told him I had a teenage son and he said he loves kids and that it wasn't a problem. We ended up having a whirlwind romance and 2 years later, I'm engaged and have a 6 month old with my partner living with me and my older son.
The thing is he lied about many things and I'm finding out in dribs and drabs. He lied about his age (said he was 48 instead of 54), his level in job (said he was an Executive chef when he is a sous chef), how many children he has (told me he had 2 children when I know he has 3 and actually suspect he has 4), led me to believe he lived with his children (when he never has lived with them). He is also quite trigger-happy to argue and I'm so laid back and calm, it just doesn't suit well with my personality at all. He also spent the first year strongly accusing me of admiring other men when I wasn't which has taken such a toll on our relationship.
The thing that broke my heart was that he doesn't actually like my teenage boy. He would make comments about various things about my son, about how I think of him too much and give my son more attention than he deserves, if my son lies in in the morning, he would call him a 'king' (in private to me) (I'm paraphrasing...) even though my son is a kind and considerate person who hasn't behaved out of line towards my partner at all - if only a little shy as he is a quiet boy.

Due to all this, I've slowly gone off being intimate with him.
When I look back, there were a few signs but as I haven't been heavily experienced, I thought it was just teething problems/that he loved me and was a bit insecure and that was something I could help him through (re: accusations). A majority of the above, I found out/he would tell me after I became pregnant.

More recently, we have just come to the late stages of buying a house together, only to have the mortgage broker tell me he has taken out numerous loans and that because he relies so heavily on credit, it is highly unlikely we'd get the house we choose to purchase.
I take responsibility for rushing into this and the 'I made my bed and I should lay in it' type advice goes without saying. No matter which way I look at things, I no longer love him. He is a good guy in some ways but it's the things I really looked for in a man he lied about. When I find out the truth, he gaslights me and tells me all along he told the truth in the beginning and that I got it wrong, that I'm 'manipulative' and constantly trying to 'twist his words'. I'm trying to hang in there and cope with the decision I made to start a relationship with him and have a child with him, but I'm running out of tactics and strategies. I've been a single mother before and I can do it again but I know he'll put up a fight and won't leave easily. I'm unhappy and although I love my little son so much, sometimes I wish I could go back to being single again. He's actually put me off men completely.

Any advice on either leaving or with how to cope with him for the next 15 years would be grateful.

OP posts:
soberholic · 16/09/2024 07:20

It's usually blended families that get the bad rep - because a lot of people rush into unstable relationships with existing children getting negatively treated.

We all make mistakes OP but congrats on the baby

MrsCarson · 16/09/2024 07:48

Accepting your responsibility and your part in all this doesn't help your son. Put on the brakes and get rid.
You are risking your relationship with your son. Kids first even as they become teens.

Marblemarbles · 16/09/2024 07:51

You are going to ruin your own life as well as the life of your children by keeping this man in your lives, especially your teenage son - poor kid.
So many red flags.
He is going to ruin you financially and emotionally.
Get away asap.

ThorndonCream · 16/09/2024 07:51

At least you didn't marry him. I can't imagine him going for 50:50 custody or anything considering his track record. Of course, you and your son, in particular, shouldn't have to put up with this sad specimen simply because you had a child with him. I think this is the sunk costs fallacy - doubling down on it won't make it better. He deliberately lied and deceived you about his job, his age, the number of children, his level of debt and who knows what else. So he has a few good points among the dross - even Hitler was a vegetarian who loved animals. Don't bother arguing with him about what he told you or didn't tell you. You're not "manipulative" and constantly trying to "twist his words". He is just a liar. There is no good future with this man.

Do whatever it takes to get rid of him. If the house or flat is yours or in your name, I'd just change the locks and have his stuff packed on the doorstep. Call the police if he kicks off. Again, don't try to reason with him as it is totally pointless. Otherwise, start looking for a flat or house to rent.

RollerRunner · 16/09/2024 08:02

Why did you rush into it so fast though? You got pregnant so early on?

patchworkbear · 16/09/2024 08:05

Saw this and thought of you

Had a baby by the wrong guy in my 40s...
FlatWhiteExtraHot · 16/09/2024 08:09

Do you want your sons to grow up thinking it’s ok to treat people the way your “partner” does? Get out before his attitude starts rubbing off on your sons.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 16/09/2024 08:11

You’ve not married him or bought the house yet - it’s a great time to end things.

Staying with him means once your son is an adult and leaves home, he will want to avoid visits to see you because I bet that he knows what your partner thinks of him. He needs to be your inspiration for going through the battle of severing ties.

NotStayingIn · 16/09/2024 08:11

Sorry but I also think the society statement you made is complete nonsense and the fact you open your post with it suggests you might well believe this is at the root of your issues. It’s not.

Feel empowered that your decisions are yours to make, and start making the right ones for you and your children. You’re not a victim to whom things happen, you are responsible for your own future. So it’s up to you how good that will be. You and your children deserve so much more than you are currently settling for!

GuestFeatu · 16/09/2024 08:16

In this situation 'lying in the bed you made' means leaving for the sake of both your kids and being a single mum again , not ruining three lives by staying with him!

NotStayingIn · 16/09/2024 08:18

Sorry you asked for advice on leaving him. I think the house purchase falling through was such a blessing! If he’s still pushing to buy stall that and make plans for yourself. Do you have friends you can reach out to help you make a plan to leave him. Although you sound super capable of doing this! Good luck.

pictoosh · 16/09/2024 08:26

GuestFeatu · 16/09/2024 08:16

In this situation 'lying in the bed you made' means leaving for the sake of both your kids and being a single mum again , not ruining three lives by staying with him!

Spot on.

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 08:31

I've been single for years as have a disabled DD, work full time, and know I would not have the time to devote to a relationship. Society has never made me feel I have no value. It grates on me occasionally at functions, but other than that nope.

TiramisuThief · 16/09/2024 08:32

He lied and deceived you OP.

You're not to blame for this situation.

Anyone who says "you've made your bed and you need to lie in it" is heartless

Thank goodness you found this out before you bought a house or got married.

If you're renting and it's your name on the tenancy you can get him out or of its your house that you own. It won't be pleasant but perhaps think about how to do it while your older child is out of the house.

dontcryformeargentina · 16/09/2024 08:37

This man is danger to your son. Leave him as soon as possible.

thiscantbemylife · 16/09/2024 08:38

I understand OP. Mine was similar but opposite in the way he was actually really wealthy and successful but just a horrible cruel person. So I put up with it thinking it was me and if I changed he would treat me better.

A saying that has really helped me is.

When getting on the wrong train get off on the next stop.

The longer you carry on with this man the worse it will get. The harder it will be to untangle yourself from him.

You need to do it now. He doesn’t like your son is the only reason you need to end it today. You did so well to protect him by not rushing into relationships early on, it will eat you alive down the line when this will inevitably come to an end and you will have wished you did it sooner. He won’t change. Liars don’t. People who lie use it as a way to never bother to communicate in a healthy way. They lie to themselves to embellish their lives instead of working on themselves. Which it sounds like he does given the constant lies about his work. Lying about how many kids is just fucking shocking.

Tell friends so there is no going back get the ball rolling. You got this.

SuperGreens · 16/09/2024 08:40

Sorry but you've been taken in by a con artist, and that is all it is. The sooner you end it and get him far away from your older son, the better. Very common for these types to get you pregnant as fast as possible. That's how they keep you hanging around once you find out who they really are. Cutting your losses is the best and only route to take. Anything else is endless misery for you and your children.

Catoo · 16/09/2024 08:44

The good news is you found out he will ruin you financially before you bought a house with him.

You found out that and he is a liar and he doesn’t love your son, before you ended up marrying this loser.

If he’s living in your place, get him out of it. If you rent together, ask him to leave and if he won’t, start planning to leave yourself.

Have how he treats your older son and how he is jealous of the attention you give him in the front and centre of your mind to keep you strong as you navigate this.

OhDearMuriel · 16/09/2024 08:46

Get you and poor DS out of this situation before he destroys you, but more importantly your son, because he will destroy him.

For the record, society does not hate single women, it admires strong single women who get away from loser damaging scumbags like yours.

Snoken · 16/09/2024 08:52

I think the universe is screaming at you to get out now. Your bed needs to be re-made to fit your oldest son too. I don't know why you are suddenly concerned about societal norms when you met a new boyfriend and got pregnant within 6-7 months and you already had a kid to look after. That's not following societal norms. Now you are with someone who doesn't like your child but you are thinking you should follow societal norms and stay with him? Makes no sense at all.

category12 · 16/09/2024 08:55

You made a poor choice in this man, don't continue making the poor choice by staying with him.

Your teenaged son deserves better.

pictoosh · 16/09/2024 08:56

Calling your son a 'king' is his way of telling you he dislikes that you prioritise, love and nurture him. He's jealous of him and that will not change.
He seeks to mock and punish you for loving your son.
That's very nasty.

I don't think you need him.

AntigoneFunn · 16/09/2024 09:10

Yes you picked a twat, I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

We all have at some point.

You rushed things and now have a child with him. Going forward this is the only point of contact you need to have with him.

Leave. You're not married yet.

Don't believe in the sunk costs fallacy. He is vile about your son. That alone is reason enough to leave him.

Post leaving him, please think about some therapy where you can address your self esteem. It's not a magic bullet to stop people going out with idiots, but it can help you answer your own questions about why we get involved with the people we do.

Good luck to you. X

ClairDeLaLune · 16/09/2024 09:27

Wow I could list about 10 reasons for leaving him from your post.

But the one that matters most is: he doesn’t like your son. Your son WILL have picked up on this. You’re risking doing serious damage to your poor son’s self-esteem and general mental health if you stay with this man. Leave him, for the sake of your son if not yourself.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/09/2024 09:31

Bin him and be more wise in future. It has nothing to do with society or which dating service you use - you have to engage your brain, take your time and generally don't be so desperate you will ignore the obvious.