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Feeling so confused and injured [Content warning added by MNHQ: mentions rape and sexual assault]

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GraceOMalleyReturns · 05/09/2024 22:12

I don’t really know why I’m posting this but I’m too embarrassed to talk to anyone about it in real life.

I’ve been seeing a guy casually for nearly 3 years. We both have kids, live a couple of hours apart and neither of us want to uproot kids so for now we just see each other a couple of times a month and we were hoping to be able to commit to each other more once kids are older.

He has always been very kind to me and considerate of the fact I’d been in an abusive relationship in the past. He’s never so much as raised his voice to me even when we have disagreements or I’ve been being entirely unreasonable (which I have over the last year as I’ve been on various anxiety medication which has changed my mood a lot).

On Monday we went to stay at a hotel for a couple of days. We have always had a very enjoyable sex life and he’s never asked me to do anything unusual as he knows I’m pretty inexperienced and he has hinted he used to be into some fetish stuff but it was because it’s what his ex was into and he just went along with it.

For maybe the last year or so he’s occasionally slapped my bum (never hard) during which has always made me giggle because I find it quite silly but not a turn off or anything. While we were away he slapped my bum quite a few times while we were having sex and afterwards said ‘you really enjoy me being rough with you don’t you?’ to which I replied ‘you’re not rough and I like it’ because I do like our sex life.

Yesterday morning he had to leave early as he was getting a flight and gently woke me up at about 5am making it clear he fancied sex. I was pretty sleepy and he asked me if I minded if he was rough with me and I said of course not, assuming he just meant he was going to be slapping my bum a bit again which, as I said, I don’t mind him doing. Then everything seemed to happen really quickly and he grabbed my hair and pretty much lifted me up by it. He then kept choking me, slapping and pinching and biting me all over and picking me up and throwing he back on the bed, dragging me by my hair and really, really hurting me. He had sex with me incredibly roughly too. I started crying while he was having sex with me and trying to ask him to stop but everytime I tried to say something he choked me or put his hand in my mouth.

As soon as he finished he said that he didn’t mean to make me cry but he had to go away for a few days and he’d see me soon. As if I was crying because he had to leave and not because he’d just really hurt me.

I have bite marks and scratches all over me, I’m absolutely covered in bruises and I’m pretty sure I’ve got a bladder infection as I’m so sore when I urinate. I don’t know what happened or why he suddenly did this. He’s never seemed to want to hurt me before and even when he was doing it he seemed to be saying things that made it sound like he thought I was enjoying it.

It’s like the person I thought I knew didn’t exist. I don’t understand why he’d wait so long if this is what he wanted to do or if he genuinely thought that I’d enjoy basically being beaten up and suffocated.

He hasn’t really been in contact other than to say his flight landed and a few photos of where he is. He hasn’t asked me how I am or made any mention of the fact that yesterday morning he had hurt almost every part of my body.

I don’t know what to say to him. There’s no way I can have sex with him again as he terrified me. I don’t want to have sex with someone who wants to physically injure me.

We had a really nice few days together and then he turned into a different person and I don’t know what to do.

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Smineusername · 06/09/2024 03:35

This is awful not just because you have been violently assaulted but also because the psychopathic and premeditated nature of the assault means that you now have to radically rethink the past three years of your life. The person that you were/are presumably in love with not only doesn't exist but is actually a mask for a malevolent force that actively wishes you harm and has been pursuing a relationship with you in order to cause you harm that he will enjoy. I can't emphasise enough how dangerous this man is. This is grade 1 psycho. Murderer level. You are going to need proper support as you begin to process this emotional, physical and sexual abuse. I'm so sorry. I would want to hear that ex girlfriend's story

XelaM · 06/09/2024 04:03

Report to police

yesmen · 06/09/2024 04:04

QueenCamilla · 06/09/2024 01:39

I'm even questioning the coincidence of him going abroad for a few days.
He either didn't and it's all bullshit to make himself "unavailable" if necessary.
Or he did and it ain't a coincidence but a ready made plan to be unavailable if the OP or the police come knocking.

He's done this before.

100%

Skilled.

And he probably has a few more women lined up too.

OP - you will not be the only one.

CarolinaWren · 06/09/2024 04:08

Smineusername · 06/09/2024 03:35

This is awful not just because you have been violently assaulted but also because the psychopathic and premeditated nature of the assault means that you now have to radically rethink the past three years of your life. The person that you were/are presumably in love with not only doesn't exist but is actually a mask for a malevolent force that actively wishes you harm and has been pursuing a relationship with you in order to cause you harm that he will enjoy. I can't emphasise enough how dangerous this man is. This is grade 1 psycho. Murderer level. You are going to need proper support as you begin to process this emotional, physical and sexual abuse. I'm so sorry. I would want to hear that ex girlfriend's story

I would also like to hear the ex's story. I suspect she is an ex because he assaulted her and she dumped him.

yesmen · 06/09/2024 04:12

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People who are into rough sex consistently say that many conversations are required before hand, safe words established and boundries clearly laid.

This animal did none of that.

He pretended to get consent from a woman who was half asleep, and proceeded to beat the living daylights out of her, rape her, and more than likely deliberately injure her.

Please do not imply to her that she gave her consent or the poor/simple/foolish guy made a mistake.

He raped her. She did not ask for it.

Frogpole · 06/09/2024 04:14

@GraceOMalleyReturns To offer a male perspe... no, actually, fcuk that. See this bloke of yours? He desperately needs to see a doctor to get a prescription that says "8.2 grams of supersonic tungsten applied vigorously to the face every six seconds until either the undesired behaviour ceases or the firing pin snaps".
What he did you is rape, plain and simple. There is no possible reason, explanation, justification, nor excuse for what he's done to you.

Devilsadvocat · 06/09/2024 04:17

Hi. Im so sorry this happened to you and it is not your fault. You must go to the hospital because its hard to get a gps appointment. You can show them what you have written here and they will take it from there. If you want to press charges its up to you and I know its scary but he could kill someone by the sounds of it and he shouldnt get away with this. I hope you make a full recovery physically and mentally. Please please please she somone though for your injurys it does sound like you need medical help.

HoppingPavlova · 06/09/2024 04:21

@GraceOMalleyReturns I can’t even bring myself to type what he did so I don’t know how I could tell a doctor though

Firstly, I’m so sorry this happened to you. What an utter piece of shit he is.

Secondly, it’s really important you tell a doctor everything when you see them. Please don’t be embarrassed, you have nothing to be embarrassed about. The doctor won’t judge you, they won’t be squeamish about what you are telling them and they won’t find it an embarrassing conversation. Trust me, I’ve had way too much experience in this on the medical side. Please just ensure you tell them everything so they can ensure you are treated thoroughly, if you hold information back, it’s possible things can be missed and they just want to do the best for you.

NoOffButton · 06/09/2024 04:21

How awful. He knew what he was doing and was stopping you from telling him to stop. He ignored that you were crying.

Are there any legal experts on here? I’d say that was rape.

andthat · 06/09/2024 04:21

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@serenavanderwoodsenn What bullshit.

The OP repeatedly requested he stop. That is not consenting to ‘rough sex’, that is rape ffs.

It’s bollocks like this that stop women from reporting violence against them.

TokyoSushi · 06/09/2024 04:26

Oh OP, I'm so sorry, this is absolutely appalling. Please seek medical help in the morning, if you can't bear to discuss it (and I completely understand why) then you can always show the GP your thread.

Please also consider reporting, he sounds really dangerous and the fact he made out he was 'just a regular guy' for so long is really chilling.

Sending strength Flowers

HoppingPavlova · 06/09/2024 04:31

@serenavanderwoodsenn What in the world is wrong with you?

But it was very poor communication on his part……

That would be an understatement of the year. In fact the communication was (deliberately, I would think), SO poor that it could in no way be taken as communication that could have resulted in consent for what was being done. It’s outrageous you are such an apologist for this piece of shit. Utterly outrageous.

I can understand it was a big shock for you though OP when you haven’t experienced sex like that before, it requires a big amount of vulnerability

And medical attention. For some reason you think that’s acceptable, and if you think it’s acceptable for you and you want to agree up front, with full knowledge that you are going to have violent sex that will leave you physically injured, and in need of medical attention, then go for it I guess. But it’s not normal, and OP in no way gave consent for that. It was rape and she needs medical attention for injuries, and I would hope at some point also psychological attention for the damage in this regard.

WiddlinDiddlin · 06/09/2024 04:37

He absolutely raped you, and this was a planned thing, it wasn't an accident or a misunderstanding.

He set the scene with the light bum slapping so he could get you to agree you 'like it rough' ... so now he'll make out he had no idea you didn't like it, you agreed, you liked it before... It won't work, its all bullshit, a little bit of bum smacking is not remotely comparable to what he has done, but thats whats playing out in his sick mind.

He woke you early and initiated sex before you were fully awake, and there was no discussion as to what you were up for, what was acceptable, any safe word etc.. and he repeatedly stopped you from saying no/stop/etc.

Then he fucks off 'away' immediately after...

I would text him 'you raped me, you are a rapist', burst that bubble he's constructed where what he did was just fine.

Get medical attention asap then decide what you want to do from there.

Please do not shy away from explaining to a Dr what happened, what he did etc. This is not your fault, it is not your shame, and you need to get the very best help possible, as soon as possible.

Codlingmoths · 06/09/2024 04:45

Oh you poor thing. Please get medical support, urgent care centre is a good idea. Try and write down a few things before you go that you might be able to hand over if you can’t talk. Please don’t be embarrassed or ashamed. This does not reflect on you. He’s a violent rapist. I too think it was pre planned.

FlamingoFloss · 06/09/2024 04:54

Please get an urgent GP referral my lovely. They can get you checked and guide you. Sending you massive hugs xx

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 05:01

NoOffButton · 06/09/2024 04:21

How awful. He knew what he was doing and was stopping you from telling him to stop. He ignored that you were crying.

Are there any legal experts on here? I’d say that was rape.

It's 100% rape.

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 05:03

WiddlinDiddlin · 06/09/2024 04:37

He absolutely raped you, and this was a planned thing, it wasn't an accident or a misunderstanding.

He set the scene with the light bum slapping so he could get you to agree you 'like it rough' ... so now he'll make out he had no idea you didn't like it, you agreed, you liked it before... It won't work, its all bullshit, a little bit of bum smacking is not remotely comparable to what he has done, but thats whats playing out in his sick mind.

He woke you early and initiated sex before you were fully awake, and there was no discussion as to what you were up for, what was acceptable, any safe word etc.. and he repeatedly stopped you from saying no/stop/etc.

Then he fucks off 'away' immediately after...

I would text him 'you raped me, you are a rapist', burst that bubble he's constructed where what he did was just fine.

Get medical attention asap then decide what you want to do from there.

Please do not shy away from explaining to a Dr what happened, what he did etc. This is not your fault, it is not your shame, and you need to get the very best help possible, as soon as possible.

She should not text him, contact him in any way, nor respond to any contact from him.

BurntoutGP · 06/09/2024 06:18

OP I am so so sorry that this has happened to you. I am sure other people have told you but the place to go is either a GUM clinic or a SARC (sexual assault referral centre). You should be able to google either. They have kind lovely supportive teams who will be able to support you and give you everything you need. No one will force you to do anything (eg go to police) if you don’t want to but SARC’s can collect evidence to use in case you want to in the future.
I am a GP who works in sexual health. The majority of GPs would be incredibly sympathetic and supportive but unfortunately would not have the time and specialist skills and counsellors etc that you need.
Thinking of you and adding to the support from hundreds of women on the internet.

TuVuoiFaLamericano · 06/09/2024 06:21

Op, this isn't on you. Whilst you agreed at the beginning, you had no idea how violent he was. You then took away consent by telling him no. He chose to ignore you.
I'm sorry this has happened to you. Definitely go to the doctor, block him and report him to the police.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 06/09/2024 06:23

Oh no, OP I'm so sorry that happened and thats absolutely rape.
Even for those of us who do enjoy elements of BDSM, it's highly consensual, safe and done with both peoples prior knowledge in a safe and controlled environment.
Men or sorry should I say monsters like this who carry on like this absolutely make my blood boil. They are just abusers.

DisforDarkChocolate · 06/09/2024 06:23

I'm so sorry you've been though this, find someone to talk too even if you don't want to go to the police.

I thinks he deliberately had you to agree to 'rough sex' knowing your definition of this was very different to his so he could use your consent as a rape defence.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 06/09/2024 06:25

I say highly that should say completely btw! Can't edit on my phone
Please do seek support OP and don't be embarrassed talking to your doctor, they will understand and help you

IVbumble · 06/09/2024 06:26

GraceOMalleyReturns · 06/09/2024 00:18

I’m lying in bed next to my little boy at the moment and I don’t understand how everything went so wrong so quickly.

It's not understandable because of the way he is.

He used smoke & mirrors to confuse you.

It is not your fault.

There was nothing you could do to change what happened & this makes us feel powerless or that we should have done something. Many people would freeze in this situation.

Please take photos of your injuries in case you want to use them at a later date.

We're with you in the shock of it all.

everythingthelighttouches · 06/09/2024 06:32

Oh my goodness, you poor thing.

I’m sure you’re so traumatised right now that you don’t know what to think or do.

I think this thread will be really overwhelming for you but please focus on just one thing right now…

Please see a doctor. Any doctor, doesn’t have to be your own gp.

Remember that although you are feeling very vulnerable and weak, you are actually pretty strong.

Remember that you have already survived abuse and got away, that you had the courage to write on here and that you have a beautiful son.

I have lots that I would like to say right now about this man, but I’m going to hold off until hopefully you have found the strength to take the first step.

💐

misspositivepants · 06/09/2024 06:37

Oh gosh, none of it is your fault, he has assaulted you, don’t let him near you again.

please go to the dr, could you ask for a female? Do you have a trusted friend or family member you could confide in? You could show them your original post (GP or friend). You will get nothing but sympathy, support and understanding. You have had something horrific done to you, you shouldn’t deal with this alone.

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