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Feeling so confused and injured [Content warning added by MNHQ: mentions rape and sexual assault]

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GraceOMalleyReturns · 05/09/2024 22:12

I don’t really know why I’m posting this but I’m too embarrassed to talk to anyone about it in real life.

I’ve been seeing a guy casually for nearly 3 years. We both have kids, live a couple of hours apart and neither of us want to uproot kids so for now we just see each other a couple of times a month and we were hoping to be able to commit to each other more once kids are older.

He has always been very kind to me and considerate of the fact I’d been in an abusive relationship in the past. He’s never so much as raised his voice to me even when we have disagreements or I’ve been being entirely unreasonable (which I have over the last year as I’ve been on various anxiety medication which has changed my mood a lot).

On Monday we went to stay at a hotel for a couple of days. We have always had a very enjoyable sex life and he’s never asked me to do anything unusual as he knows I’m pretty inexperienced and he has hinted he used to be into some fetish stuff but it was because it’s what his ex was into and he just went along with it.

For maybe the last year or so he’s occasionally slapped my bum (never hard) during which has always made me giggle because I find it quite silly but not a turn off or anything. While we were away he slapped my bum quite a few times while we were having sex and afterwards said ‘you really enjoy me being rough with you don’t you?’ to which I replied ‘you’re not rough and I like it’ because I do like our sex life.

Yesterday morning he had to leave early as he was getting a flight and gently woke me up at about 5am making it clear he fancied sex. I was pretty sleepy and he asked me if I minded if he was rough with me and I said of course not, assuming he just meant he was going to be slapping my bum a bit again which, as I said, I don’t mind him doing. Then everything seemed to happen really quickly and he grabbed my hair and pretty much lifted me up by it. He then kept choking me, slapping and pinching and biting me all over and picking me up and throwing he back on the bed, dragging me by my hair and really, really hurting me. He had sex with me incredibly roughly too. I started crying while he was having sex with me and trying to ask him to stop but everytime I tried to say something he choked me or put his hand in my mouth.

As soon as he finished he said that he didn’t mean to make me cry but he had to go away for a few days and he’d see me soon. As if I was crying because he had to leave and not because he’d just really hurt me.

I have bite marks and scratches all over me, I’m absolutely covered in bruises and I’m pretty sure I’ve got a bladder infection as I’m so sore when I urinate. I don’t know what happened or why he suddenly did this. He’s never seemed to want to hurt me before and even when he was doing it he seemed to be saying things that made it sound like he thought I was enjoying it.

It’s like the person I thought I knew didn’t exist. I don’t understand why he’d wait so long if this is what he wanted to do or if he genuinely thought that I’d enjoy basically being beaten up and suffocated.

He hasn’t really been in contact other than to say his flight landed and a few photos of where he is. He hasn’t asked me how I am or made any mention of the fact that yesterday morning he had hurt almost every part of my body.

I don’t know what to say to him. There’s no way I can have sex with him again as he terrified me. I don’t want to have sex with someone who wants to physically injure me.

We had a really nice few days together and then he turned into a different person and I don’t know what to do.

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ChickenandaCanofCoke · 06/09/2024 02:12

Horrible scumbag. Doubt he's single either, twice a month visits screams "married entitled fucker"

You block him without explanation

captainmarvella · 06/09/2024 02:12

Poettree · 06/09/2024 02:07

I have reported your post @serenavanderwoodsenn
She was asleep. She did not consent to this, in fact she repeatedly tried to tell him no.
She is now injured and you are telling her "it must be a big shock" and she obviously didn't know what he meant.
Honestly I don't know why you are posting on this thread. This is not about you and you are not helping.

I have reported it too. The nerve to come to a bodily injured and shell shocked r@pe victim's thread and say all this BS. It's because of people like her bdsm has such a terrible reputation.

OP, please ignore that woman's words. You never consented to being beat up and that is God's truth. This guy was a predator who targeted you, this is what sick men do AND NONE OF THIS IS YOUR MISTAKE. NONE 💐

savethatkitty · 06/09/2024 02:12

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 06/09/2024 02:10

You admitted that you didn't read the thread properly and now you're back trying to call everyone's response to that 'nonsense' because you've found solidarity with another self absorbed poster who can't read the room.

what would you like me to say/do? I am genuinely curious

Findingmypurposeinlife · 06/09/2024 02:15

So sorry this has happened to you. You have been incredibly brave to write it all down here. It's a safe (and anonymous) space.
I wouldn't text him anything. Just block him right away.
He is clearly very manipulative and will potentially use gaslighting behaviour. Listen to the majority of these posters who are reassuring you, that you gave no consent to be harmed in this way. Take photos of your injuries as previously advised.

Can you make an information request under Clares Law? (I've included a link below)
Not meaning to worry you, but please ensure he doesn't have a spare key to your home and install a cheap cctv camera (Argos) and ring doorbell (if you don't have one already)

www.met.police.uk/rqo/request/ri/request-information/cl/triage/v2/request-information-under-clares-law/

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 06/09/2024 02:15

savethatkitty · 06/09/2024 02:12

what would you like me to say/do? I am genuinely curious

  1. read posts about sexual assault properly before deciding it's all a miscommunication
  2. don't double down and accuse people of spouting nonsense when they call you out on it
  3. don't support other posters trying to minimise
  4. leave the thread if you're not genuine about wanting to put the OP and her feelings first
ChickenandaCanofCoke · 06/09/2024 02:16

"That’s the kind of sex I’m into (im a woman)"

Christ OP. Don't listen to this dickhead.

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 02:17

XChrome · 06/09/2024 01:49

Agree. If she contacts him, he will use it to try to claim she was okay with what he did. It makes prosecuting him harder.

Agree. She could be manipulated via text. And also it will just end up upsetting her or confusing her. This filth is a master manipulator.
No contact with him whatsoever, but save any texts he sends.
OP, please don't be drawn into responding in any way if he contacts you.
We are all on your side.

serenavanderwoodsenn · 06/09/2024 02:17

captainmarvella · 06/09/2024 02:07

Please point out where the OP has said in her post that the man "outlined all of this to her"

Please point out in mine where I said that either. I said he was wrong not to have outlined his definitions of rough sex to her. Learn to read.

Catoo · 06/09/2024 02:17

savethatkitty · 06/09/2024 02:12

what would you like me to say/do? I am genuinely curious

Nobody cares what you do.
Please don’t say anything else.
Stop minimising what this man has done. There was zero misunderstanding. He knew perfectly well that he didn’t have consent. That is rape and assault. And I expect that is exactly how he likes it.

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 02:18

savethatkitty · 06/09/2024 01:51

Re-reading her original post, where she tried to say no and he covered her mouth and stopped her from speaking, you are absolutely correct. I did not read the post properly - the error is mine

Good for you, savethatkitty - thanks.

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 02:20

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Dear OP, please ignore this poster completely. She/he is absolutely wrong. Ignore.

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 02:22

serenavanderwoodsenn · 06/09/2024 02:04

Because I’m pointing out than within the people who have sex like that; all of the things mentioned are regular practise. Which is why I’m saying he was wrong not to outline all of this to her.

But not to stop and not to put his hand in her mouth or choke her when she was crying and trying to speak?
Don't answer this, just please please go away.

captainmarvella · 06/09/2024 02:23

serenavanderwoodsenn · 06/09/2024 02:17

Please point out in mine where I said that either. I said he was wrong not to have outlined his definitions of rough sex to her. Learn to read.

Right, I didn't read it properly. It was the only reasonable line in your entire post so no wonder my eyes were deceived.

Are you going to say anything at all about how you blissfully ignored a man's devious escalation of rough play from playful spanking to violent assault that has left the woman with gyanecological injuries and tried to play it as OP consented to it after all and this is all a grand miscommunication?

QueenCamilla · 06/09/2024 02:27

@serenavanderwoodsenn
People who like sex like this??
Did you mean to call it sex?
Like? What exactly do they like? Anal/vaginal abrasions and tears? Vulval abscesses? Intestinal prolapses and torn sphincters? Infections? Brain damage maybe?
All of this and more can result from a violent sexual assault (and no, that ain't sex).

If you, however, enjoy to be assaulted then please do pay for private health care. Can't have you and buddies clogging up our services as a lifestyle choice.

Hyperbowl · 06/09/2024 02:29

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I have reported this comment as it is extremely dangerous to the OP and any future readers that may be going seeking advice from here in a similar situation.

That is what you are into. Not the OP. Your sexual partners will be aware of your boundaries and your sexual preferences. None of this applies to the OP who has been viciously sexually assaulted. She did not give consent for sex to be this forceful as he did not seek consent for it to be this forceful or beyond what they had already experimented with and discussed. The OP was crying and wasn’t given an opportunity to speak. You are correct he did not respect her, she didn’t expect it because it wasn’t consensual. This was rape. You are victim-blaming and it is disgraceful.

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 02:31

savethatkitty · 06/09/2024 02:12

what would you like me to say/do? I am genuinely curious

Take a wild guess.

XChrome · 06/09/2024 02:44

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Bullshit. He knew she wasn't consenting to that. That's why he choked every time she tried to object.
Shame on you for trying to convince her she wasn't raped. What unmitigated gall.

LunaNorth · 06/09/2024 02:45

OP, I’m so sorry this happened to you. Please get medical help, and if you feel you can, report the evil bastard.

How fucking dare he? None of this is on you. Please ignore the thread hijacking that our tone-deaf friends have created, and focus on starting to get help to heal yourself from the terrible physical and emotional injuries this monstrous pig has inflicted.

Hugs and solidarity.

snackatack · 06/09/2024 02:57

I know you are probably overwhelmed by the responses.. for one you didn't consider it rape.. but the majority on here do (and rightly so) .. there was not a safe word, there was minimising your feelings - and 'normal' gaslighting ending

This man can go on and do this again and again - he picked a woman who had told him about previous abusive relationships - snared you in over years.. and hopes to keep you as his plaything.

It is vile. Please go and seek the support you need.. medical attention -and if you can report him do..

Much love and hand holding x

60andraring · 06/09/2024 02:57
  • Absolute naive bullshit to call this a "miscommunication."

He knew he didn't have consent. He can't claim he didn't understand.

Very convenient to play dumb, act normal, pretend he thinks she's crying because he's leaving. Send "normal" texts afterwards.

He planned this and she had no way of knowing. A predator and a rapist.

Men like this know exactly what they are doing*

^^ This. His (relative) radio silence points to him knowing exactly what he did. He hasn't acted like this in the time you have known him but has intentionally hidden what he's into. That also must be so very difficult to even process, OP. Your mind must be all over the place. Please do not blame yourself. He has played the long game here. Deliberately.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I'm not sure I would text him as it might likely open the door to him attempting to gaslight you and rewrite what happened. Phone Domestic Abuse Services or the Rape Crisis helpline for support - anonymously if you want. Please do not blame yourself in any way. Do get your locks changed if he has keys as a PP has advised.

HRCsMumma · 06/09/2024 03:09

Chucklit · 06/09/2024 00:37

I am so, so sorry this happened to you. It will be awful to go into details with a doctor and/or the police but please try to take into account that he needs to be legally charged and dealt with because of what he's done to you. This is on him. This is in no way a reflection of you. Take the fucker down. He needs to pay for this.

I agree. So so sorry OP, this is nothing short of violent rape 😔

oakleaffy · 06/09/2024 03:15

@GraceOMalleyReturns Please, please leave this brute - block and have nothing more to do with his violence..Did you do a Claire's Law on him?

You don't want to be another statistic.

Elaine O'Hara was murdered by her disgusting {married} 'boyfriend'.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck7glyyl0kwo

NonsuchCastle · 06/09/2024 03:25

oakleaffy · 06/09/2024 03:15

@GraceOMalleyReturns Please, please leave this brute - block and have nothing more to do with his violence..Did you do a Claire's Law on him?

You don't want to be another statistic.

Elaine O'Hara was murdered by her disgusting {married} 'boyfriend'.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck7glyyl0kwo

I think the OP is young and inexperienced. She might not know what Claire's Law is. I think she needs to see the police. Once she has done that, medical treatment and Claire's Law will follow. I don't think she is in the mindset to "do a Claire's Law" at the moment.

Also, the immediate concern is her health and, hopefully, she will visit the police. At this point, asking for info via Claire's Law is closing the stable door etc.

OP, Claire's Law is a policy which gives you the right to have info from the police about whether a partner or potential partner has complaints of violence against him.

oakleaffy · 06/09/2024 03:26

Findingmypurposeinlife · 06/09/2024 02:15

So sorry this has happened to you. You have been incredibly brave to write it all down here. It's a safe (and anonymous) space.
I wouldn't text him anything. Just block him right away.
He is clearly very manipulative and will potentially use gaslighting behaviour. Listen to the majority of these posters who are reassuring you, that you gave no consent to be harmed in this way. Take photos of your injuries as previously advised.

Can you make an information request under Clares Law? (I've included a link below)
Not meaning to worry you, but please ensure he doesn't have a spare key to your home and install a cheap cctv camera (Argos) and ring doorbell (if you don't have one already)

www.met.police.uk/rqo/request/ri/request-information/cl/triage/v2/request-information-under-clares-law/

Elaine O' Hara's murderer was captured thanks to CCTV in her communal hallway-

@GraceOMalleyReturns Please go to police, and if he has a key, definitely change the locks.

I see that others have already mentioned Claire's Law.

Sadists like this can play the long game.

Please stay safe, your son does not need to grow up without his mother, or around such violence.