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Boyfriend squeezed my arm

106 replies

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 08:20

Hi all,

The other night I held my boyfriends wrists to get up and must've squeezed them when doing so. A few moments later he grabbed my arm and squeezed it really tight whilst physically scrunching his face.

I asked him to stop and told him to get off me.

He apologised and said he didn't want to hurt me, just make me feel uncomfortable like he felt uncomfortable when I squeezed his arms.

He has apologised profusely but I'm not sure if this is the first sign of abuse or not given I squeezed his wrists first?

OP posts:
Moredrama · 23/07/2024 14:28

No one is trying to tell you off.

For those of us questioning what you did, I think it’s a valid question as there were other ways to go about it.

You have come for advice and ultimately the advice is that what your boyfriend did was not okay regardless of his reasons and you should seriously consider leaving him.

Sipina · 23/07/2024 14:29

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:21

I am not determined to make it ok, I'm determined for people to know what actually happened.

I came on this forum to seek advice, not be told off

Nobody is telling you off

We get what happened. Its not OK. Painful sex isn't OK. None of what you described is OK

Good luck

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:29

Borninabarn32 · 23/07/2024 13:47

He deliberately tried to hurt you to punish you. Not acceptable at all. We accidentally hurt people all the time. DP and I throw tools to eachother etc sometimes it hits wrong or catches you and hurts. If I threw him a tape measure and it hit his toe would he be allowed to throw it as hard as he could at me? No.

And it's got naff all to do with autism. Autism doesn't mean you think it's acceptable to hurt people. Honestly it's so damaging to the autistic community to connect abusive, violent behaviour with autism. It implies that us autisic people are violent and abusive, and we are not.

Just FYI, the sex pain thing, sounds like you need more foreplay and lube to help relax and lubricate before penetration.

Thank you for your insight and sorry for any harm caused with the reference about autism

OP posts:
noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:31

Sipina · 23/07/2024 14:29

Nobody is telling you off

We get what happened. Its not OK. Painful sex isn't OK. None of what you described is OK

Good luck

Thanks

OP posts:
noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:36

Moredrama · 23/07/2024 13:40

This.

I don’t agree with what he’s done, it’s not acceptable.
However, you’re saying you squeezed his wrists to help yourself up - why? In this situation I would have said either leaned on the bed/sofa to lift myself up, or I’d have asked for his help. It makes no sense why you did what you did, and clearly to him he felt that you purposely tried to hurt him.

So I was playing with his arms and it was just a natural thing that I used them.

I get where you are coming from but it wasn't as if thought had gone into why.

He said he felt trapped and vulnerable and I understand that he must've thought the same as you, that I did it deliberately

OP posts:
EmmaPeele · 23/07/2024 14:37

@noraalsworth From your replies you sound a lovely person. Please don't think people are telling you off, I think we are all just concerned about you.

leeverarch · 23/07/2024 14:39

You did it by accident. He did it on purpose to deliberately hurt you.

Big difference. Huge.

Borninabarn32 · 23/07/2024 14:42

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:29

Thank you for your insight and sorry for any harm caused with the reference about autism

No didn't mean it as an aggressive post about about the autism, sorry if it came across angry. Just that it's such a common excuse that people give for abusive behaviour. A person doesn't have the right or reason to treat you badly just becuase they have autism (or mental health issues).

MaidOfAle · 23/07/2024 14:42

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 09:11

Yes I agree, it's hard because I think he is autistic (undiagnosed) and so he struggles to understand basic social etiquette and I don't really know how that fits in or whether it even does. But you're right physical makes it worse

It doesn't matter whether he's autistic or not, he doesn't get to physically hurt you in retaliation for an honest mistake.

I'm autistic and I take an extremely dim view of autism being used as an excuse to abuse.

Leave the bastard.

KatiesMumWoof · 23/07/2024 14:44

Weatherwax13 · 23/07/2024 10:48

My H "only" loomed over me in my face, then pushed me on the weekend.
I'm slightly hurt but it wasn't a "hard" push, I didn't get knocked to the floor.
Nonetheless, I kicked him out.
I've seen it in my first marriage, friends IRL, and on here, that once you let a man cross a physical line without consequences, you're generally on borrowed tine.
And I've known my H nearly 30 yrs and this is the first incident - I'm still in absolute shock and devastated - but I'm not living in dread of what might come next time we argue.

@Weatherwax13

im very impressed, that takes some doing after 30 years together & it being he first time! You well & truly learnt the lesson in your previous relationship. I'm impressed!

I'm very sad for you that it happened though, just at a stage of life where you feel settled for your future xx

californiaisdreaming · 23/07/2024 14:44

If you were hurting him by accident he should have told you that, not done it back to you harder.

He sounds dangerous, spiteful and lacking in the normal social boundaries that usually stop men from hitting women, hurting them and worse.

Escape now.

KatiesMumWoof · 23/07/2024 14:48

@noraalsworth

take a leaf out of @Weatherwax13 s book!!

if he's not diagnosed I wouldn't be making any allowance for his self stated autism. I know quite a few autistic adults and none of them would behave like this anyway.

A 'man' that chooses to hurt you instead of using his words... nope. I'm far too forgiving & soft by nature, but no way would I be putting up with that!!

Moredrama · 23/07/2024 14:49

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:36

So I was playing with his arms and it was just a natural thing that I used them.

I get where you are coming from but it wasn't as if thought had gone into why.

He said he felt trapped and vulnerable and I understand that he must've thought the same as you, that I did it deliberately

I get that, but it doesn’t make what he did okay. He should have just had that discussion with you, not made you “uncomfortable” to teach you a lesson.
It was an extreme overreaction, and I’d be concerned what he might do the next time he feels like this

MaidOfAle · 23/07/2024 14:49

noraalsworth · 23/07/2024 14:36

So I was playing with his arms and it was just a natural thing that I used them.

I get where you are coming from but it wasn't as if thought had gone into why.

He said he felt trapped and vulnerable and I understand that he must've thought the same as you, that I did it deliberately

I would expect him to push you out of his space or freeze if he felt trapped, not retaliate. Retaliation is an act of revenge, not fear.

At six months in, I have things in my freezer that are older than your relationship.

Acornsoup · 23/07/2024 14:50

Massive RED flag

Acornsoup · 23/07/2024 14:52

@noraalsworth

'Yes I agree, it's hard because I think he is autistic (undiagnosed) and so he struggles to understand basic social etiquette and I don't really know how that fits in or whether it even does. But you're right physical makes it worse.'

You've even started making excuses for him - which is normal because you are a nice person. Please walk away now before it gets worse.

Opentooffers · 23/07/2024 14:57

Does he have an official ASD diagnosis? If you are NT, you are setting yourself up for being with someone who will often behave in unexpected ways. What I've learnt through the years and having a thing for clever men in my youth ( some also ND), is that although being different can seem interesting to start with, the novelty wears thin and it ends up feeling like hard work. You can chose to not have to put the work in and be 'understanding'.
He could of reacted badly because being touched and restricted is not a thing people with autism respond well to.
It would make me look at other possible issues, and I'd explain why what he did was not on and verbalise his dislike at the time is more appropriate. One chance only if it was isolated.

Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright · 23/07/2024 15:06

6 months in is common for abuse to start I think.

Acornsoup · 23/07/2024 15:11

This is the point where if you stay months/years (depending on how quickly it escalates) from now, you will think THAT is when I should have ended it.

ND is not a licence for abuse. If he has sensitivity issues - how come this is the first time it has come up? It is only about power and control.

This is not a pile on OP. We want the best for you Flowers

oakleaffy · 23/07/2024 15:13

It can really hurt to have someone grabbing one by the wrists to haul themselves up - If one cannot hoist oneself up, it's best to ask for a hand up.

I wonder if he felt that dragging,. burning pain and rather than saying ''OUCH! let GO!'' he retaliated to show how much it hurts.

No one should be hurting the other.

JFDIYOLO · 23/07/2024 15:14

He didn't want to hurt you? He's lying. He wanted to lash out, retaliate in kind. To hurt you.

His reaction to it should have been to tell you to stop it, you were hurting him, and even though it was not intentional you should have apologised.

Fast forward a few years - your toddler flails their arms and thumps him in the eye.

Your puppy bites him.

What will he do to them?

Autistic my arse. Plenty of autistic people are kind, gentle, empathic people.

Do not hand him an excuse on a plate.

Acornsoup · 23/07/2024 15:22

oakleaffy · 23/07/2024 15:13

It can really hurt to have someone grabbing one by the wrists to haul themselves up - If one cannot hoist oneself up, it's best to ask for a hand up.

I wonder if he felt that dragging,. burning pain and rather than saying ''OUCH! let GO!'' he retaliated to show how much it hurts.

No one should be hurting the other.

Edited

Victim blaming

Coldfinch · 23/07/2024 15:27

ClonedSquare · 23/07/2024 08:27

It's worrying that his first response when you did something he didn't like was to do it back to you harder to make a point. Not to give you the benefit of the doubt that it was an accident or express that he didn't like it and ask you not to do it again.

That's not an attitude I want in a partner, in any kind of disagreement. It shows a nastiness, a desire to hurt and see the worst in your partner. Even verbally (eg you accidentally upset him so he deliberately upsets you in return) it would be unacceptable to me. The fact it was physical makes it worse/

This!!

I’d cool the relationship and move on. The mask slipped.

GingerPirate · 23/07/2024 15:33

Bin.
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Watchkeys · 23/07/2024 16:52

Okay just to clarify, he didn't mean to hurt me he meant to make me feel uncomfortable on purpose because he felt uncomfortable

What difference does that make, in terms of whether he was physically retaliating against you?