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Will She Come Back?

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ba2407 · 22/07/2024 16:59

My girlfriend broke up with me on June 15th, completely unexpectedly. We had been together for 18 months, living together for 9. I'm 31, she's 32, I was her first boyfriend. Our relationship was great despite a rough last few months—we never argued and shared the same values and goals. We had discussed marriage, knew our wedding venue, and wanted kids. We enjoyed weekends away and a ski trip in February. Her family and friends liked me, and mine liked her. Her stepdad has even remained supportive and in contact at times since our breakup.

In March 2024, I gambled for the first time in a year, leaving me feeling suicidal for a week and depressed for a few months. This affected my mood and resulted in a lack of activities for us, as I was too embarrassed to let her pay for everything and was struggling myself where to turn to deal with these feelings i has never had before. I then reached out for help. However much I was struggling when I was around her things were better and I still did all I could despite struggling then to be a good boyfriend. I always treated her so well and we were a great team. I know she is the one.

She was supportive when I told her I gambled, and I started therapy and medication. She noticed improvements, but then ended things on June 15th, saying she couldn’t do it anymore, we hadn’t had fun recently, and maybe we needed space. This was a shock, as she had never mentioned any issues or concerns before and there was nothing wrong between us.

The breakup spurred me into action. I started journalism, running, going to the gym, and attending both weekly group and one-on-one therapy. By June 27th, my therapist noted significant progress, and I felt like a new person—confident, focused, motivated, determined, and clear-minded. I had finally found a formula that worked for me.

I texted her on July 2nd, she replied within 30 seconds, and we met for a walk that evening. I shared the changes I’d made, and she noticed how happy and different I was, saying these changes gave her hope for our future. I read her a list of where we went wrong and solutions, including planning our months together. She was very happy and told me these changes gave her hope. I acknowledged where I went wrong, showing her a list ive made of where I went wrong, we went wrong and solutions. She was very pleased with this and liked it. One of my soluations was to get together at the beginning of the month and plan our time together so we are doing stuff and having fun.

We held hands, kissed, told each other we missed and loved each other and agreed to start talking and meeting up again. We both told each other how special this way and we have never had anything like this before. That evening, she texted, saying it was nice to see me. We continued to text on July 3rd, exchanging emotional messages and reaffirming our love for each other.

On July 4th, I went to move my stuff out. She cried the whole 1hr 30 I was there, saying it felt wrong and that she missed living with me. She apologised for not addressing issues earlier and bottling them up . Despite the emotional turmoil, she made me dinner, despite me saying I don’t want to outstay my welcome and got me sweets for my 3-hour car journey after.

Before I left, she asked for three weeks of space. I haven’t spoken to her since then, and I miss her deeply. I’m confused about why she wanted space after agreeing to meet up again.

One concern is her friend who moved in with us in January. My ex admitted she had been comparing our relationship to her friend’s long-distance relationship. She also said she was not surprised we had broken up and told her to be careful going on a walk with me. This has made me wary of what her friend might be saying, despite us always getting on.

The three weeks of space end on Thursday, I have not contacted her and I plan to let her come to me.

I’m seeking advice on whether she’ll come back and how much the changes I’ve made will influence her decision.

Many thanks.

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HowIrresponsible · 22/07/2024 17:03

Our relationship was great despite a rough last few months

You were only together 18 months and several of those months were rough.

She's asked for space. You have to respect the boundaries of a break up and give her that space.

I wouldn't pin all your hopes on her coming back. She had to dump you to stop you gambling. Think about that.

A gambler isn't a viable long term partner.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:05

Thank you. Its strange she has not mentioned the gambling once in the break up. I don't want to gamble ever again and I won't

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Hugesunflower · 22/07/2024 17:08

Are you a gambling addict who startes to gamble again? Or is this the first time you did it and it went too far? It feels like some thing is missing from the story.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:14

Apologies, I had previously had an issue with gambling, she knew all about this prior to the relationship. I had been clean and doing well for a long period, then gambled last May and March just gone. Something I will never do again, and the formula above is really working.

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HowIrresponsible · 22/07/2024 17:16

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:14

Apologies, I had previously had an issue with gambling, she knew all about this prior to the relationship. I had been clean and doing well for a long period, then gambled last May and March just gone. Something I will never do again, and the formula above is really working.

It's tempting to think you won't do it again.

I wouldn't risk going back to a gambler. She may not.

ineedtogwtoutbeforeitatoohot · 22/07/2024 17:18

If you were an addict you can't say you will never do it again though. She may be wondering if she wants a life with someone who could so easily slip up and fuck it all up I wouldn't.

unbelievablescenes · 22/07/2024 17:18

She'd be wise not to come back, you need to sort this issue for good and prove it for a prolonged period before you get into a relationship

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:21

Thats a fair point. The big difference for me is previously when I gambled last summer I did not do all the things I am doing now. I realise that I got complacent and thought oh I have been fine for ages it just happened once, I can carry on it won't happen again. It has been a massive wake up call.

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ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:21

HowIrresponsible · 22/07/2024 17:16

It's tempting to think you won't do it again.

I wouldn't risk going back to a gambler. She may not.

Thats a fair point. The big difference for me is previously when I gambled last summer I did not do all the things I am doing now. I realise that I got complacent and thought oh I have been fine for ages it just happened once, I can carry on it won't happen again. It has been a massive wake up call.

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ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:23

ineedtogwtoutbeforeitatoohot · 22/07/2024 17:18

If you were an addict you can't say you will never do it again though. She may be wondering if she wants a life with someone who could so easily slip up and fuck it all up I wouldn't.

Thats a fair point. The big difference for me is previously when I gambled last summer I did not do all the things I am doing now. I realise that I got complacent and thought oh I have been fine for ages it just happened once, I can carry on it won't happen again. It has been a massive wake up call and I know I have made great strides but I need to keep it up forever. With or without her I will do that. I have accepted and understand what I need to do now for me to be the best version of me.

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Refugenewbie · 22/07/2024 17:24

I dying think she'd be wise to have a relationship with an addict who has relapsed so recently. You need time alone to just be you and stable.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:25

unbelievablescenes · 22/07/2024 17:18

She'd be wise not to come back, you need to sort this issue for good and prove it for a prolonged period before you get into a relationship

My plan is either to date her slowly if she wants to, or not date anyone and keep focusing on me.

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ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:27

Refugenewbie · 22/07/2024 17:24

I dying think she'd be wise to have a relationship with an addict who has relapsed so recently. You need time alone to just be you and stable.

Thank you. I know I am on the right track. If it mean losing her to get here, it will be so painful but I accept actions have consequences. I cannot beat myself up about the past, I will keep looking forward. I love her and hope over time we can come back together,

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Watchkeys · 22/07/2024 17:43

Why did her leaving spur you into doing all that good stuff?

Or, rather, why weren't you doing the good stuff when you were together? If she can see that being together was in the way of you doing good stuff, then... well, I wouldn't come back, if I was her. The logical conclusion would be that if she comes back, you'll get complacent and gamble again.

And if you've given up for a year, then you've said 'I'll never do it again' before, and meant it. However much you justify saying it and meaning it again, it's a bit of a hollow promise.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 17:47

Watchkeys · 22/07/2024 17:43

Why did her leaving spur you into doing all that good stuff?

Or, rather, why weren't you doing the good stuff when you were together? If she can see that being together was in the way of you doing good stuff, then... well, I wouldn't come back, if I was her. The logical conclusion would be that if she comes back, you'll get complacent and gamble again.

And if you've given up for a year, then you've said 'I'll never do it again' before, and meant it. However much you justify saying it and meaning it again, it's a bit of a hollow promise.

I think it was just how it happened in time. I was already making some of those changes prior to the break up and she had said she could already see a difference. Then the break up was really the big shock. I wish it didn't take that to be honest.

I know I won't get complacent. I did before and look at where it has got me. I've lost a girl I wanted to marry, I never won't to lose anyone again because of this.

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Hugesunflower · 22/07/2024 17:50

I also think she is wise to end the relationship. At 31 she doesn’t have years to wait around and work out if you’re going to stay off the gambling and potentially then find someone new before she has children.

Watchkeys · 22/07/2024 17:54

I wish it didn't take that to be honest

But the fact is, it did. Things aren't as you wish. You can't make that promise to her, even though you wish you could. You know what addiction is, and if it pushed you as far as depression when you made a small mistake, you know how important an influence it is in your life. Either that, or you made a big mistake, and that's why she left.

Gettoachiro · 22/07/2024 18:09

It's complete and utter bollocks that a gambler isn't a viable long term partner. A PROBLEM gambler yes but not a gambler.

Unfortunately it looks like you had a problem and a bit of a relapse, she didn't mention the gambling when you broke up but that she couldn't be supportive of you any more (be that the gambling addiction rebound or your mental health) and that's what she thinks and she has every single right to feel that way.

I don't think she will come back I'm sorry but if she does use what you have learnt and make sure you don't relapse again. Whatever you do don't contact her on Thursday or afterwards. She knows how you feel and if she doesn't get in touch you know exactly how she feels.

You've made many positive changes since and you need to keep that up for just one reason, not for your ex, not for anybody else, just for you.

If things dont go as you hope on Thursday don't slip, see it as a positive for you in any way that you can and continue creating positives for yourself.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 18:09

Watchkeys · 22/07/2024 17:54

I wish it didn't take that to be honest

But the fact is, it did. Things aren't as you wish. You can't make that promise to her, even though you wish you could. You know what addiction is, and if it pushed you as far as depression when you made a small mistake, you know how important an influence it is in your life. Either that, or you made a big mistake, and that's why she left.

Thanks for your message. Its interesting she did not mention the gambling once at all in the break up or the two occasions we met up since. It was a rough few months for sure but I have gained such great insight and knowledge I never had before. It has been a big wake up for sure and know I am on a good track for myself

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Refugenewbie · 22/07/2024 18:13

Being on the right track is wonderful but it's not the same as having been on the right track for a considerable period of time, through stressful situations that could cause a relapse etc. I know you want to believe everything is all better but it's just not. You're getting there though. I would advise my friend not to get back with you unless she was prepared to wait and maintain a friendship for a couple of years. There will be reasons for your relapse that won't have disappeared and you need time.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 18:16

Gettoachiro · 22/07/2024 18:09

It's complete and utter bollocks that a gambler isn't a viable long term partner. A PROBLEM gambler yes but not a gambler.

Unfortunately it looks like you had a problem and a bit of a relapse, she didn't mention the gambling when you broke up but that she couldn't be supportive of you any more (be that the gambling addiction rebound or your mental health) and that's what she thinks and she has every single right to feel that way.

I don't think she will come back I'm sorry but if she does use what you have learnt and make sure you don't relapse again. Whatever you do don't contact her on Thursday or afterwards. She knows how you feel and if she doesn't get in touch you know exactly how she feels.

You've made many positive changes since and you need to keep that up for just one reason, not for your ex, not for anybody else, just for you.

If things dont go as you hope on Thursday don't slip, see it as a positive for you in any way that you can and continue creating positives for yourself.

Thanks for your message. I agree, I am not a problem gambler, I had a blip. Recovery isn't linear. Shes an intelligent woman with a high profile job and earns good money. If she thought I was a bad prospect she would'nt have carried on seeing me and she told me this.

I totally understand why she needs some time for herself, and the time and space has worked wonders for me. I think we are in a high risk high reward situation. I could lose her forever, or this could be the start of a great future for us.

I am really unsure if she will come back. There is a lot love, care and emotion for each other and fact shes asked for 3 weeks space shows she is really weighing things up. Whatever happens going forward I will continue to do what I am doing and I will not message her.

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Refugenewbie · 22/07/2024 18:16

I would accept that you aren't winning this one and focus on making you life the healthiest and most meaningful that you can. Whether it's her or someone else in the future, you will find happiness and meaning that way and you deserve it

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 18:18

Refugenewbie · 22/07/2024 18:13

Being on the right track is wonderful but it's not the same as having been on the right track for a considerable period of time, through stressful situations that could cause a relapse etc. I know you want to believe everything is all better but it's just not. You're getting there though. I would advise my friend not to get back with you unless she was prepared to wait and maintain a friendship for a couple of years. There will be reasons for your relapse that won't have disappeared and you need time.

Thank you for your message. I agree time is key here and I told her that time is on our side. I am willing to wait and give her as much time as she needs, and taking things slowly if she wants. I want to that to so I can carry on focusing on me. Either way I will carry on focusing on me.

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Watchkeys · 22/07/2024 18:20

It has been a big wake up for sure

This means that, for the duration of your relationship prior, you were someone who needed a wake up.

Why do you think we will have any idea if she's coming back? As you say, she's taken 3 weeks; she herself doesn't even know.

ba2407 · 22/07/2024 18:20

Refugenewbie · 22/07/2024 18:16

I would accept that you aren't winning this one and focus on making you life the healthiest and most meaningful that you can. Whether it's her or someone else in the future, you will find happiness and meaning that way and you deserve it

Thank you very much. That is where my head is now. It will be here or someone else, although id prefer it to be her that gives it a try, but either way ill continue focusing on me. I have seen what happens when I take my eye off the ball. Its painful

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