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I have a crush on my awful hosuemate

186 replies

Reallyverystupid · 14/07/2024 03:19

I am so ashamed of the situation I have got myself into. I need some moral support finding my way out.

I am 34 and single with no dc. I was engaged to my ex but we broke up before the wedding. I’ve been single for about a year and a half. After the break up, I moved to a small town where I have no connections. I work online and I have an amazing job and I make enough money that I only need to work 20 hours a week, so I use the rest of my time to study for a totally unrelated degree online, surf and hike with my dog. I have not made that many close friends here yet.
I made friends with a man I surfed with a lot and after a few months, I realised I was romantically interested in him. I made a move and he very gently told me he does not feel the same way and that he is still in love with his son’s mum. He then left town almost immediately for a work project which lasted almost 2 months. We stayed in contact while he was away and maintained the friendship. He returned at the same time I had to move out of my house due to flood damage, so I ended up with nowhere to live and we decided to find a rented place together. We’ve been living together as housemates in a 3 bedroom house since May. The rental contract is in my name (I sublet to him legally) and lasts a year which is pretty good timing for when my house will be repaired. We have had some issues:

  • He did not pay the 1st month’s rent. He asked me to lend him the money and I originally agreed to it as a loan, but it quickly became clear he would not be able to afford to pay it back, so I said he should consider it a gift. He also did not contribute to the deposit.
  • I do 100% of the cleaning, buy most of the food and all of the shared stuff like toilet paper. He usually eats 2 meals per day at work and 1 at home. He is a chef and has cooked incredible food for us both quite regularly, but not everyday.
  • He sometimes comes home after I have gone to bed and cooks himself a midnight feast. I made a point of not washing up the pans he used for this and eventually he had used all of our pans and left them all dirty. When I told him he needed to wash them, he did but he was angry about it.
  • I have an adult dog and he has a puppy. Because I work from home, I do almost 100% of the care for his puppy. He does not walk her before or after work and I have taken her for all of her vaccinations etc which he has not paid me back for. I also buy all of his puppy’s food because I felt awful feeding my dog premium fresh food and giving her the cheapest kibble he could find. A few weeks ago he disappeared for the weekend without warning, leaving me with his puppy. She is very closely bonded to me because I do all of her training and almost all of her care, although she sleeps in his room at night.
  • He cycles to work but his bike was broken for ages. I lent him my bike and he took it for granted, caused some damage and used it without asking once.
  • The other day we had a BBQ together and he told me how much he misses his son. I’ve met his son a couple of times when he visited in the past but he has not seen his son since April and I do not think they speak on the phone that much either. He says that his ex will not let him see his son until he pays back the £600 he owes her for maintenance. Like an idiot, I offered to lend him the money which he gratefully accepted.
  • I lent him the money for his maintenance debt last week, and Sunday and Monday are the first days he has had off of work since then. I was expecting him to go to the town his son lives in (and leave me with the puppy!) Saturday evening. But instead, he came home with a woman he has known since childhood but who lives in a different city now. She immediately put her stuff in his bedroom and they had a BBQ which they did not invite me to join. He asked me to have his puppy in my bedroom tonight.
I feel like such an idiot. Partly because I can objectively see that we’re not really friends and I am just the useful moron who cleans for him, financially supports him and takes care of his dog. But partly because I just realised I still have a crush on him and I am jealous / heartbroken that he is shagging someone else in my house after I have done so much for him. Please help me get some perspective! There is no clause in his subletting contract for me to kick him out just because I’ve changed my mind about him, so I can’t just force him to leave.
OP posts:
ileftmypotatointheovenallnight · 14/07/2024 10:42

OP I can answer this for you.

You were lonely and looking for someone to fill that gap and there were not many options.

Get a pen and paper and sketch out the life you want and work toward it.

Find fulfilling things, protect your assets and and find someone decent.

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 10:43

You have every right to give him a month’s notice and kick him out.

I don't think he's even owed a month's notice, he's just a lodger.

He's not on any tenancy agreement, he's not contributed to the deposit.

DreamyCyanFinch · 14/07/2024 10:45

mybeesarealive · 14/07/2024 10:13

It's a first for MN, you have discovered the existence in the wild of the rare breed nococklodger. In fact it's somewhat miraculous that he hasn't used you for sex as well. This may feel a harsh way of framing it, but you need a push to tell him to leave, and leave he must.

This made me chuckle.
Good luck OP, you've got loads of good advise here, you can and will get rid of him.

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 10:53

Personally I would give him a months notice to find somewhere else to live

Personally I would not.

He's a lodger who's not paid rent, leaves piles of dirty dishes for op to clean, doesn't do any housework, leaves his pet for his lead tenant to look after, has taken a sizeable loan to remedy CM arrears (which he'd never have gotten into if he was responsible or decent), and entertains his latest squeeze in this property, a properly he's not paying towards.

If he was just a lodger, and not a loser who op unfortunately fancied/has a crush on) he'd be out the door.

This dude has;

CM arrears.
Rental arrears
Can't get a loan himself off a bank, or loan company, or family, or other friends.
(Op is a relatively recent acquaintance; how come he couldn't get that loan off a family member or long term friend? The answer to that is that no-one would give him one. He's probably burnt all those bridges already.

There's a consistent picture here.

He's not going to start paying you rent and laying back your loan when he wouldn't even prioritise paying CM to see his child op.

Just get him the fuck out asap.

Reallyverystupid · 14/07/2024 10:56

Thank you very much everyone. I needed to hear it to remind myself I'm not going mad.

My OP was already very long so I cut some things. We live in an area where almost all of the housing is holiday lets and Airbnbs, especially in the summer. Finding a proper house to rent is difficult and often depedns on luck or knowing the right person. I would not have found this house had it not been for him knowing the letting agent. I think he considers that to be a significant contribution, which I suppose it was.

I signed the rental contract with the owner and then I have a legal subletting agreement with him. There isn't an "I changed my mind" clause. His contract runs for the length of my contract. But obviously if he does not pay the rent then I can kick him out. I have already told him to consider the 1st month's rent a gift, so I doubt I could now use that as grounds to kick him out though. I will need to wait for him to default on the next rent.

We do have a contract for the loan, but realistically I could / would not go to the small claims court for £600.

For those asking, I work in the field of software engineering for robots. It's an amazing industry and I can't recommend it enough.

I would love to keep the puppy. She is amazing.

OP posts:
BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 10:58

I think he considers that to be a significant contribution, which I suppose it was.

It was useful, not significant.

It does not justify him not paying for his accommodation there.

It does not justify him not doing equal housework and leaving you to clean up after his mess.

It does not justify using you as free pet care.

It does not justify using you to pay his significant CM arrears, if that's what he even uses that money for.

pointlessopportunity · 14/07/2024 10:58

you told him you fancy him and ever since he has taken advantage

He is a bad parent to his son

Bad dog owner

Bad friend

Terrible lodger

give him notice. Tell him to go and then find a nice new housemate you can have a genuine friendship with

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 10:59

We do have a contract for the loan, but realistically I could / would not go to the small claims court for £600.

I have a feeling he knows that, and I have a feeling you'll not see that money again.

mybeesarealive · 14/07/2024 11:00

Well, if you're not gonna tell him to leave, you do need to tell him to put his weight with the housework. You probably need to be very clear this unacceptable for him to use cooking implements and not clean up afterwards. Go on a date with somebody else as well to cleanse him from that part of your system.

geography21 · 14/07/2024 11:03

We've all been down these sorts of paths, suggest you at least sit him down and make it clear that any non payment of rent will result in immediate action.

I'd call up his mate the letting agent and go over what actions can be taken so you're prepared, and mention the two amounts he's had off you in a 'I'm concerned I've taken on someone that can't pay, what do you do here...' mention the late night feasts, cleaning issues all in a professional way.

Sounds like a small town of locals - so I'd make sure his mate tees him off that he's pushed you too far.

And dogs are better than most men, it's a standing joke that my dog is the only perfect man 😂

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 11:05

I have already told him to consider the 1st month's rent a gift, so I doubt I could now use that as grounds to kick him out though. I will need to wait for him to default on the next rent.

How come you have to play all nice and decent op, when he most definitely doesn't play nice or decent??

You told him to consider the first months re tba gift - was there any record of that? If not, it's just something that was said, with no evidence. So you could use it to kick him out.

He'd already had the gift of not having to contribute to the deposit, he most certainly didn't need his first months rent as a gift too.

I think you need legal advice on this too. I don't think you're stuck on the "changing your mind" thing re. your lodger. Have you spoken to someone experienced in this?

There is also a landlord etc Facebook forum where people answer questions, for free.

geography21 · 14/07/2024 11:05

Ps robots - so jealous. Fellow IT person here but nothing exciting! You don't sound like a loser. There are just too many chancers out there ready to manipulate any doubt and you've got one stuck to you like a tick. Time for some tick treatment!

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 11:06

suggest you at least sit him down and make it clear that any non payment of rent will result in immediate action.

No!

Because he'll pay the rent, probably out of the money she loaned him, to avoid being kicked out this month, and then go back to not paying rent.

And this will drag on longer and longer.

Let him default on the next month.

RitaAndFrank · 14/07/2024 11:07

God lord, op. Reading this has made me feel really sad for you; you sound so lovely and level-headed and yet you are being absolutely taken for a massive mug. Please fgs do not fall for any further shit from this man. You may find that he ramps up some affection towards you when he realises the threat of actually being kicked out, because he knows he has this power over you. Fgs please don’t fall for it. And please please do whatever you can to keep the lovely puppy. She deserves better than him.

pointlessopportunity · 14/07/2024 11:07

Stop being so nice and start being a landlord

He may decide to move on of his own accord

geography21 · 14/07/2024 11:07

Yes but at least she'd have this month's rent...it can be be v tricky in non payment. I'd definitely be in any case calling the letting agent and laying it out - she has legally sublet so that's good.

Perhaps you're right, get professional advice before tackling him.

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 11:08

pointlessopportunity · 14/07/2024 11:07

Stop being so nice and start being a landlord

He may decide to move on of his own accord

Only if he gets someone else he thinks he can live off for free.

GinForBreakfast · 14/07/2024 11:10

Stop giving him money. Stop doing favours for him. Make sure he does his fair share of the domestic chores.

I think if you make life as uncomfortable as possible for him then he will probably move out. You are just a meal ticket to him, nothing more.

Whatdoyouneedsonia32789 · 14/07/2024 11:10

Who drew up the subletting agreement?

Could you go back to them for advice?

A lot of subletting agreements are not worth the paper they are written on anyway.

Cotonsugar · 14/07/2024 11:12

Garlickest · 14/07/2024 04:23

You're obviously a million miles from worthless! The flood must have been quite traumatic. Feeling destabilised and vulnerable, you may have formed some kind of trauma bond with The Wastrel, who's now managed to cast you as a parent. Feeling like a saviour can be empowering in a way - your home life was overwhelmed by smelly water, but you were able to take charge of the situation and to save someone else from homelessness.

Well, okay, you did that. Now this geezer's taking the piss by the gallon. He's using you, disrespecting both you and your home. He's horrible! Please tell us more horrible things about him.

And, of course, you deserve SO much better.

This. You were vulnerable even if you didn’t recognise it in yourself and this loser took advantage. You are attracted to him because you need emotional support. Research your options and get rid of him asap.

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 11:16

Stop being so nice

This isn't "nice" .... This is in the territory of emotional and financial masochism.

GinForBreakfast · 14/07/2024 11:17

Also, please don't feel embarrassed or ashamed! You are a kind hearted and empathetic person, you've just met someone who has taken advantage of that. If anyone should be ashamed it's him.

You sound bloody amazing. My only criticism is that you haven't posted photos of your dog 😉

BouquetGarni224 · 14/07/2024 11:18

In general terms, you definitely need to put effort into developing social groups etc.

It was very brave to end an engagement and get out of that relationship. You need to build up your life again so you're not vulnerable to people like this.

If you share accommodation again, it should be with true acquaintances & friends, not parasites you fancied.

GenerousGardener · 14/07/2024 11:20

OP youve already paid for the puppy so you have a right to keep her. Meanwhile, ring around a few boarding kennels and find out what the going rate is per day. If he then decides he wants the puppy, hit him with the bill for the whole time the puppy has been in the house under your care. It should run into £100’s. When he says he can’t pay it, you just tell him you will take the puppy in payment of the kennelling bill. Make sure you get a signed receipt.

The puppy is the only good thing to come out of this mess.

bluedomino · 14/07/2024 11:20

Offer to buy the pup for the price of the first months rent or whatever he owes you. Get him to sign the paperwork then say but you've already had the money.
Seriously, tho ffs toughen up. You may live in a small coastal town but good tenants are valued and I'm sure you won't struggle to find somewhere to live. Or work more and buy somewhere. Don't take all his advice on the local housing situation as the truth. He's already shown he manipulates you. Without you he wouldn't have had a chance of renting. As for the locals, they will know exactly what a waster he is and any moans/opinions he has about you will be laughed at.

Stop being so nice.