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Clingy and needy when apart, great in person

94 replies

enkelt · 29/06/2024 23:09

Hi everyone. I started seeing this guy (single dad, 2 kids) about 6 months ago. Initially (like the first week), I was glad to find someone very communicative. We text and video call every day and we meet up 2-3x/week. He is open about his past and generally just very sweet. He's the opposite of the ghosting types, or those who feign interest for sex, or those who feel lukewarm about me.

But soon, I started feeling suffocated. I mean, there were typical "red flags" all over the place. He said he loved me pretty much the 2nd or 3rd date. He'd call me 2-10x/day, all video-calls, as he works outdoors and has a lot of free time. The thing that creeps me out a little is that he would call for literally 10 seconds or so, "just to see my face", or just to tell me he loves me. I've told him many times that it doesn't feel right "to be looked at" but he says he misses me. I don't know if I should feel flattered or uncomfortable.

In the very beginning, there was worse behaviour. For example, he'd take my phone and check my communication history. He'd get very emotional if he saw I talked to a male, non-colleague person. When I told him I'd be meeting a female friend, he'd call more that day. He'd make sure to see the friend on videocamera. Such behaviour (phone-checking) stopped after I told him it made me uncomfortable. Also, if he interrupted my other calls or if I missed a call, he'd send quite aggressive messages like "you're speaking with/meeting another person/boy".

I thought about ending things about 2-3 months in. The scariest thing is, surprisingly, not his behaviour, but the change in my behaviour. For example, I find myself screenshotting my call with another person when he interrupts, since I could then send the screenshot to show him I was speaking to my family. This was not something he demanded; it's something he's gradually "trained" me to do, because I'd rather do this than to argue. I also started deleting my WhatsApp history since he would check (he stopped doing this after 1 month, but still). The worst part is that I've started to expect his message and calls every 1 hour or so. This is damaging to my mind.

The thing is, it's difficult for me because he's 100% okay in person. I love spending time with him in person. And he's a great dad. If I could disregard his off-site communications, I would be happy. But unfortunately I can't. He's improved a bit, but whenever I catch some off-putting behaviour and call him out, he'd say it's because he "loves me too much" (which is actually the most off-putting response).

I find him very sweet and endearing but I'm not sure about love. My feelings for him are muddled by the confusion and suffocation. But somehow his "methods" have been so effective that I just can't break up completely. I tried 2 times. I tried doing it over video-calls, because I'd be weak if I met in person. Both times he didn't believe me, and said, we could meet over coffee. Then somehow I wasn't able to break up, because I'm 100% happy when I'm with him in person.

I don't know, something is seriously messed up, but I don't know what to do. It probably too difficult to change him and his behaviour with the phone just stresses me out, and it's not sustainable for me. But I am not sure about breaking up over the phone??? We don't live together but he knows where I live. He's probably not dangerous but still, I want a peace of mind by breaking up in person....

OP posts:
homeandstay · 29/06/2024 23:14

Wow, this is shocking and he's like this so early on which means this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Break free by text, block him and move on, if he shows up at your house then call the police.

Soon he'll be telling you what to wear, he won't like your family or friends and he will isolate you.

JWhipple · 29/06/2024 23:22

Genuinely scared for you

End it. He doesn't get to tell you to do it face to face. It's over. Whether or not he wants it is neither here nor there.
He sounds unhinged. End it, block him and maybe change the locks if he's ever been to your house.

He is not a nice man. He is worryingly controlling. The fact he is doing it without shouting or aggression doesn't make it any less frightening or distressing.

He sounds like he has found some worrying effective ways to control you. He may have had practice.
https://clares-law.com/

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Also known as the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme is a police policy giving you the right to know if your partner has an abusive past

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Porkmarket · 29/06/2024 23:25

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EG94 · 29/06/2024 23:31

This is the start of an abusive relationship. He is love bombing you and making you the centre of his world and you have already started to be addicted to the insane highs that the lows you feel are justified or can be improved or you could put up with it.

please please please please take it from someone who has the t shirt. If you think it’s hard to leave now, imagine the difficulty leaving after a few years when you have entangled your lives more and the hold is greater.

I beg you send a text, end it, block him.

im trying to save you being destroyed and loosing who you are. You will not recognise yourself if you continue and you will likely be gaslight into thinking it all went wrong because of you. His behaviour is your fault.

GET AWAY FROM THIS MAN

VotesForWomen · 29/06/2024 23:36

It never ceases to amaze me what some women will tolerate in the name of love and romance.

Apileofballyhoo · 29/06/2024 23:36

Run away very fast.

cookiebee · 29/06/2024 23:42

This man is dangerous, his behaviour is so far from normal it’s unbelievable. Break up with him and make it clear he is not to come near you or contact you again. Healthy and stable partners do not treat others they care about this way!

enkelt · 30/06/2024 00:41

thanks everyone. I guess I needed some reassurance. And yes I need to reevaluate why I've put up with this.

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Ilovebees · 30/06/2024 00:45

Another vote for : END IT , so creepy man , yukkkk , and very controlling 😭

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 30/06/2024 00:49

You should have ended it when you first became concerned. However it's never too late, so end it now.

And take great care - he will not be happy.

Changingplace · 30/06/2024 00:55

Another vote for please end this relationship, none of this is ok and your feelings are completely valid. End things however you like but don’t feel you owe him a face to face explanation, and block him afterwards.

Inspireme2 · 30/06/2024 00:58

Meet him in person with a friend with you and tell him it is over.
Block his number.
If he oversteps your request then deal with him ass you need to to keep him far away.
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TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 01:02

He sounds very dangerous, OP.
You need to end it and block him.
He isn't sweet, he's controlling and abusive.

TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 01:02

And get a Clare's Law request from the police.

I guarantee you that he'll have previous convictions for domestic violence and stalking.

rusrus · 30/06/2024 01:07

Please get rid. And take the good advice here re planning and precautions.

You can do it!

wrped · 30/06/2024 01:48

leave now

Mmhmmn · 30/06/2024 01:58

Run for the hills. Dump and block. This guy is a fucking psycho. You know this.

SamW98 · 30/06/2024 02:32

How many red flags do you need before you realise he’s a fucking dangerous abusive cunt?

dontcryformeargentina · 30/06/2024 03:33

RUN.. I've met people like that- they'll damage your mental health

lifesrichpageant · 30/06/2024 06:02

OP, someone close to me is in an almost identical situation, right down to the outdoor job and the two kids. His behaviour has escalated and it is now scary. She has shown me some of the messages and they are unhinged. I know they aren't the same person but the patterns and language and control are the same. Good luck.

crystalize · 30/06/2024 06:34

Don't meet in person as someone up thread mentioned. You do not owe anyone an explanation or reason for ending things. Quick to the point text, 'its not working for me any more' and block. Do not apologise.

Going forward look into doing the freedom program. Read up on controlling relationships and healthy boundaries.

Springwatch123 · 30/06/2024 06:38

Don’t be intimidated. Be strong. Good luck.

Whalewatching · 30/06/2024 07:50

Another vote to ditch him. You have such self awareness and can see entirely what’s going on. Ditch him now while you still have that awareness. Before you’re in too deep and the waters are muddied.

You know it’s not right or normal. It’s abusive and manipulative. Get rid asap and don’t look back.

Redshoeblueshoe · 30/06/2024 10:35

Run for the hlls.

SamW98 · 30/06/2024 10:40

In the very beginning, there was worse behaviour. For example, he'd take my phone and check my communication history.

The first time this happened was your cue to run for the hills - he was showing you from the start he’s a controlling arse hole. Why on earth didn’t this get every alarm bell in your head ringing?

You have to end it by text NOW - don’t meet him or even video call etc. This creature doesn’t deserve anything v other than a curt goodbye and block

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