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Describe the moment you left your narcissistic emotionally abusive partner

114 replies

Whereisthemoney · 06/06/2024 23:43

Like how did it happen?

Was it months/years of planning and you left silently.

Or was it during an argument you just said that was it.

How did you say it?

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ThankGodForDancingFruit · 08/06/2024 16:56

Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 14:12

I'm am too! I dream of having someone who actually shows me love.

It sounds like you have reconciled that you know they will not be the person you deserve.

My concern is that if they recognise this - if they realise you have one foot out the door, and that you know you deserve better - then then the behaviour will escalate, and they will try and grind you down until you feel undeserving of love and unable to leave at all.

Have you tried speaking with your local domestic abuse service?

Justkeepswiimming · 08/06/2024 19:08

It had been my birthday. We had been going through a terrible patch for probably a couple of years although in hindsight things had been bad for a lot longer. We had not long had an awful argument, one in which he smashed a bunch of flowers he bought me as an apology in the yard, because I didn't readily accept his apology.

He gave me my birthday present. Things were still not great. I didn't give him the right reaction. I wasn't grateful enough. He was horrible to me and made me cry. He had form for ruining birthdays and other special occasions.

He refused to speak to me for the rest of the afternoon, and spent it in the garden. While he was there I packed up a bag, with documents in and hid it in the back of my car. Put my daughter to bed as usual. He went straight to bed without speaking to me and I slept on the sofa.

Early the next morning, I got my daughter up and told him I was taking her to my sisters. That I'd had enough. This was early in covid, so I was terrified I'd be pulled over by the police as it was strict lockdown. It was an awful time. I've not really thought about it since.

Foxxo · 08/06/2024 19:32

OP.

Leaving is hard, the road afterwards, rocky, but fuck me is it worth all that heartache just to be FREE of their bullshit.

Pull the rip cord. Leave, find yourself and your freedom, for you, and your kids.

He and I still talk, he's still an ass, but we work better as co-parents, than as a couple... and i've been left free to have fun, discover who I am, sleep and love where i like, and honestly.. i love every second.

Currently looking forward to an upcoming hot weekend with the 28yo i've been seeing for the last 15 months, while my ex is sat at home in his slippers with a lager and some fishing related shit on the discovery channel

Rachel2478 · 08/06/2024 19:40

We had been on a holiday and I was sitting on bench and he was on top of me ‘saying your a fucking bitch do you know that’, and abandoned me and left and I had no idea how to get back to where we were staying. Which he knew and said ‘good luck getting home’.

this was on top of years of gaslighting and manipulation. It was like a light switch for me and just one I decided enough was enough. We didn’t live together full time so thankfully I could slowly bring his clothes back to his house so there was nothing left in my flat.

I have found leaving very tough physiologically but I know there are much better times ahead. My life is so peaceful now not trying to deal with constant criticism and never being able to do enough for someone. I feel FREE

Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:16

ThankGodForDancingFruit · 08/06/2024 16:56

It sounds like you have reconciled that you know they will not be the person you deserve.

My concern is that if they recognise this - if they realise you have one foot out the door, and that you know you deserve better - then then the behaviour will escalate, and they will try and grind you down until you feel undeserving of love and unable to leave at all.

Have you tried speaking with your local domestic abuse service?

I feel they do know and are trying to escalate it so I finish it as he has said he won't finish it out of spite. But is now doing awful things to force me to and then he can tell the kids it's all my fault.

I have contacted them and they have told me I need to talk to him about going on a mental health course....I mean how do I bring that up with someone who is triggered when I say something bad about him! 'hey do you think you need to see someone about your mental health'? Can you imagine the response!

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Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:19

Justkeepswiimming · 08/06/2024 19:08

It had been my birthday. We had been going through a terrible patch for probably a couple of years although in hindsight things had been bad for a lot longer. We had not long had an awful argument, one in which he smashed a bunch of flowers he bought me as an apology in the yard, because I didn't readily accept his apology.

He gave me my birthday present. Things were still not great. I didn't give him the right reaction. I wasn't grateful enough. He was horrible to me and made me cry. He had form for ruining birthdays and other special occasions.

He refused to speak to me for the rest of the afternoon, and spent it in the garden. While he was there I packed up a bag, with documents in and hid it in the back of my car. Put my daughter to bed as usual. He went straight to bed without speaking to me and I slept on the sofa.

Early the next morning, I got my daughter up and told him I was taking her to my sisters. That I'd had enough. This was early in covid, so I was terrified I'd be pulled over by the police as it was strict lockdown. It was an awful time. I've not really thought about it since.

Edited

Oh yes birthdays and holidays are prime opportunity to ruin :-(. I don't like either now. So glad you got out.

I've got a list of things I want to put in a box and get out of the house.

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Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:21

Foxxo · 08/06/2024 19:32

OP.

Leaving is hard, the road afterwards, rocky, but fuck me is it worth all that heartache just to be FREE of their bullshit.

Pull the rip cord. Leave, find yourself and your freedom, for you, and your kids.

He and I still talk, he's still an ass, but we work better as co-parents, than as a couple... and i've been left free to have fun, discover who I am, sleep and love where i like, and honestly.. i love every second.

Currently looking forward to an upcoming hot weekend with the 28yo i've been seeing for the last 15 months, while my ex is sat at home in his slippers with a lager and some fishing related shit on the discovery channel

I just can't seem to let go of wishing there was some way to fix this. To get him back to who he was at the beginning and who I see glimpses of every now and again. It's so rubbish feeling like this.

And have fun with your new hot man!!!! Loving all the loved up stories :-).

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Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:24

totallynotstressingatall · 08/06/2024 16:50

It might actually be something really small.

I ignored his cheating & lying then one day I caught him out in a really small lie and he spoke to me as if I was really simple. It was that that made me snap.

Dont leave it too long OP because the journey back to finding the ‘new you’ can be a long one. I was feeling so much relief! Yes he has gone. Then the low self esteem and learned negative emotions set in. ‘Did I make a mistake?’ ‘Was he that bad’

Your staying because your actually already co-dependant. It’s going to be a long road for you to unlearn those behaviours x

This is a big worry of mine 😔

I was thinking of writing a list of reasons why I left him....all the horrible things he's done. Should quickly bring me back to reality!

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ThankGodForDancingFruit · 08/06/2024 21:29

Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:16

I feel they do know and are trying to escalate it so I finish it as he has said he won't finish it out of spite. But is now doing awful things to force me to and then he can tell the kids it's all my fault.

I have contacted them and they have told me I need to talk to him about going on a mental health course....I mean how do I bring that up with someone who is triggered when I say something bad about him! 'hey do you think you need to see someone about your mental health'? Can you imagine the response!

That is an absolutely shocking response from a domestic abuse service! If you feel able, report their response to your local Council, as I am sure that the Commissioner would be appalled.

For 24/7 advice and support, you can call Women’s Aid on 0808 2000 247. If that was indeed a WA local service, definitely let them know.

I am so sorry they weren’t more supportive.

His behaviour is not your responsibility. You did not cause it, you aren’t responsible for fixing it, and you don’t have to put up with it.

Mental health needs do not cause domestic abuse. Plenty of people have mental health difficulties and do not abuse their partners. Domestic abuse is a behavioural choice. Perpetrators opt in and out of their behaviour to entrap their victim. They are not abusive to everyone they meet, they are not abusive all of the time (eg in public). This shows they are in control of their behaviour.

Statistically, a woman is most at risk of serious harm while trying to end and leave an abusive relationship - because the perpetrator feels their grasp and the control loosening.

Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:34

Rachel2478 · 08/06/2024 19:40

We had been on a holiday and I was sitting on bench and he was on top of me ‘saying your a fucking bitch do you know that’, and abandoned me and left and I had no idea how to get back to where we were staying. Which he knew and said ‘good luck getting home’.

this was on top of years of gaslighting and manipulation. It was like a light switch for me and just one I decided enough was enough. We didn’t live together full time so thankfully I could slowly bring his clothes back to his house so there was nothing left in my flat.

I have found leaving very tough physiologically but I know there are much better times ahead. My life is so peaceful now not trying to deal with constant criticism and never being able to do enough for someone. I feel FREE

I think that's what I'm waiting for that final light
bulb moment! I had the one where I knew he didn't/wasn't capable of loving me when he was complaining about collecting me some lifesaving drugs from the chemist when I was 6 months pregnant, had covid and it was when you had to self isolate so i couldn't just go! It was too much of a hassle and wanted me to go!

Oh gosh yes ruining holidays! Classic narc :-(. I don't want to go on holiday with him anymore.

Gosh yes it's the constant criticism, constantly being blamed for their moods, being made to feel like you're the problem. Everything is all doom and gloom and moaning. And the gaslighting is crazy. The way they bare face say something that isn't true to your face. I'm like do you actually know what you are saying is absolute rubbish!!

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Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:48

ThankGodForDancingFruit · 08/06/2024 21:29

That is an absolutely shocking response from a domestic abuse service! If you feel able, report their response to your local Council, as I am sure that the Commissioner would be appalled.

For 24/7 advice and support, you can call Women’s Aid on 0808 2000 247. If that was indeed a WA local service, definitely let them know.

I am so sorry they weren’t more supportive.

His behaviour is not your responsibility. You did not cause it, you aren’t responsible for fixing it, and you don’t have to put up with it.

Mental health needs do not cause domestic abuse. Plenty of people have mental health difficulties and do not abuse their partners. Domestic abuse is a behavioural choice. Perpetrators opt in and out of their behaviour to entrap their victim. They are not abusive to everyone they meet, they are not abusive all of the time (eg in public). This shows they are in control of their behaviour.

Statistically, a woman is most at risk of serious harm while trying to end and leave an abusive relationship - because the perpetrator feels their grasp and the control loosening.

I called womensaid and they said I need to deal with my local service. They've been quite shocking though tbh. I didn't know if this was standard practice to try this first? I know I'm in a trauma bond, I know I'm codependent on him and want some kind of help to unravel my brain and get me out of this before I am completely broken. I tried relate and they aren't trained in DV so just referred me back to this place. I have contacted another place called clean slate. And I have had missed calls from a unknown number (the other flippin problem with this!). They call you from an unknown number (fair enough because of the nature of all this) but I have no idea who it is and no other form of communication. My DP is home all the time during working hours so I have to make a good excuse to get out the house and answer such a phone call. When I first called the local DV group months ago I thought I hadn't heard back from them, but apparently they had called me from an unknown number a few times and left it at that? There must be better ways than this.

Thank you I needed to read what you said about choosing the behaviour. I can see how differently he acts when there are other people there. It's crazy how different he is.

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TheHopefulMum · 08/06/2024 21:59

He assaulted me while I held our 1 year old daughter who had only come out of hospital that evening. No going back from that even after all I'd tolerated for years leading up to it.

Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 22:47

TheHopefulMum · 08/06/2024 21:59

He assaulted me while I held our 1 year old daughter who had only come out of hospital that evening. No going back from that even after all I'd tolerated for years leading up to it.

I'm so sorry that happened. You're right that's so unforgivable!

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Justkeepswiimming · 08/06/2024 23:38

Whereisthemoney · 08/06/2024 21:34

I think that's what I'm waiting for that final light
bulb moment! I had the one where I knew he didn't/wasn't capable of loving me when he was complaining about collecting me some lifesaving drugs from the chemist when I was 6 months pregnant, had covid and it was when you had to self isolate so i couldn't just go! It was too much of a hassle and wanted me to go!

Oh gosh yes ruining holidays! Classic narc :-(. I don't want to go on holiday with him anymore.

Gosh yes it's the constant criticism, constantly being blamed for their moods, being made to feel like you're the problem. Everything is all doom and gloom and moaning. And the gaslighting is crazy. The way they bare face say something that isn't true to your face. I'm like do you actually know what you are saying is absolute rubbish!!

@Whereisthemoney sometimes the final moment that pushes you over the edge isn't that enormous. I've mentioned what that trigger was for me, but honestly, compared to everything else it was pretty innocuous. In my head I'd been preparing myself mentally for a long time. Quite why that particular moment for me. That particular argument, that particular point, I'm not sure. But I remember going out for a walk that evening after putting dd to bed and clarity washed over me. I had to get out. I still can't describe it. But I saw so clearly then the manipulation and the abuse. I'd obviously felt the pain and hurt and sadness for years, but that one incident made me see everything else really clearly.

I remember probably 12 months before this point, saying to a friend I just wish he would cheat. It would give me a tangible reason to leave, a real reason in my head. But honestly had I found out about his affair, would I have left? I don't know. He'd crossed so many of my red lines around verbal abuse, physical abuse. And I was still there. So what was another breach of trust? Even if it was tangible. So was shoving me. So was pinning me to the back door. I didn't leave immediately after those.

Get your ducks in order, you are stronger than you know. My ex had convinced me he was propping me up. That I was incapable. Hindsight shows me that it was the other way round. I propped him up emotionally, financially, etc since the day we met. I was his cheerleader all the way through our long relationship. I was there supporting him through the myriad of issues. I supportefd him to go to uni, i supported him when work got tough. I backfilled our finances whenever things ran low. When I realised that, I knew I could manage on my own. Low and behold I'm better off now, emotionally and financially, than I ever was with him. You've got this too!

mardirousse · 08/06/2024 23:39

We finally went to marriage counseling and the counsellor called it abuse and advised me to leave him.

I had lost touch with reality and didn't realise. There was financial abuse, emotional abuse and sexual abuse.

Lots of times I tried to tell him things weren't okz but he gaslit me. Like when I told him I didn't like what he did to me during sex, and that he needed to ask before doing things like that, he said that he didn't like talking during sex and didn't need to anyway because he could tell by the way my legs moved that I enjoyed it. So then I'm on the back foot, l trying to explain why my legs moved like that. It was madness but that kind of thing had become normal for us.
After the counsellor put names on the behaviours the scales fell from my eyes and there was no going back

velveteens · 09/06/2024 01:30

I left him after he raped and beat me following big family events he insisted on attending. I hope anyone else in a similar situation gets out, I nearly died at his hand, I hope no one else suffers the same.

Aintnosupermum · 09/06/2024 03:45

I had two moments. He decided he didn’t want more children after our third child. I said ok but then get a vasectomy. He went ahead and ‘booked the procedure’ except he didn’t and I ended up pregnant with our 4th child. I wanted to keep the child, he didn’t. He drove me to the abortion clinic with the kids in the back seat and made me go in and get it done. I was damned if I did and damned if I didn’t. I went ahead with the abortion because I was scared of being vulnerable again and him being more and more controlling. I had managed to stay employed but a fourth child would make it harder and delay me leaving him. I was awake for the procedure because I wanted to feel everything and never forget what this man had done to me. He picked me up afterwards, I asked to go to a diner for comfort food and he bitched and moaned the whole time that the diner was terrible, there was nothing on the menu for him to eat (it’s a fucking diner with 10 pages of options so there is always something to eat asshole) and complained when I went to take a nap in the afternoon because he wasn’t Mr Mom.

I had a second moment when he left our youngest child in the car while he went shopping in the mall with his sister. It was about 6 months after the abortion and 30C outside and thank goodness a lady saw my daughter’s bright hair and raised the alarm. He never took responsibility for leaving our daughter in the car and blamed his sister. I started preparing to leave him at this point but doing my research and speaking to people I decided to delay because he would have so much time with the children. As it is he has them every other week. It’s a nightmare and I don’t regret waiting until my youngest was able to wash/groom herself, prepare a bowl of cereal and knew to go to a police(wo)man if not feeling safe and give them my phone number. This came in handy when he lost her at the airport transferring planes and the police called me to locate him.

Covid hit and we were stuck in a house together. He complained about the house being too small. No joke it is a huge home worth millions. People were dying all around us and there he was complaining that a beautiful home filled with his wife and children wasn’t enough.

I did think carefully before completely ending it with him. His friend verbally assaulted me because I spoke up about my husband not pulling his weight. Apparently I was demanding and a jerk because poor working class guy (who had never done a working class job in his life) didn’t feel comfortable living in the ‘wealthy’ suburb with the best schools, close to the beach and best leisure facilities. I never told my husband this has happened and waited for him to call me to make sure I was ok. Two years later he finally mentioned it. He brought it up to our child’s therapist and said I can’t be trusted and I’m a liar because I didn’t call him to tell him what his friend had done. It wasn’t on me to tell him. I knew his friend will have told him. My husband never defended me despite me being required to defend his indefensible behavior. The therapist was open mouthed and called him a hypocrite, which he didn’t like.

I do understand staying in an abusive relationship when you have young children. I did it knowingly and it was very tough but I protected my younger two children. He worships the eldest child and has pretty much discarded our son who is quite autistic but brilliant and he is meh about our youngest who is a tomboy. He is now telling her she is a boy, while telling everyone else that gender doesn’t matter. If it doesn’t matter why bloody talk about it with others?!? She is a young child and I consider it healthy she has shared her feeling about this with me. I don’t discuss it with anyone who isn’t in a need to know role (teacher, doctor, therapist).

Our eldest child is manipulated by him so badly. As an example, he has told he she must go slowly. This doesn’t work when you have 3 children. All 3 have to follow the schedule or it’s chaos. If their schedule is to get up, eat breakfast and get ready is 7-8am, and her siblings accomplish this, it’s not fair they have to wait while their elder sister ‘goes slow’ just like Daddy told her, and isn’t ready until 9. Her siblings regularly lose their temper with her taking so long. Her little sister threw her across the room once because they had waited forever, older sister was singing and dancing instead of getting changed. They were running late missing out on activities. Understand that these behaviors are a result of the abuse. It’s exhausting to deal with it.

You also have your own abuse you have to deal with. Basically it made me have some ADD symptoms. I have high anxiety as I don’t feel safe all the time.

Jennybeans401 · 09/06/2024 06:02

My lovely dh who sadly passed away was stepfather to my eldest ds.Ds biological father was extremely emotionally abusive and manipulative (with physical).Everything happened over years, lots of gaslighting until I didn't know my mind.

During my pregnancy with ds things got much worse with ex dp shouting in my face, leaving me on the bathroom floor in pain,telling me one day he wanted the baby and the other days that he'd just leave me..throwing things at me, telling me he'd smash the room up.

After ds was born I'd caught him being rough handling him and trying to scare him slamming doors and laughing when he flinched.i was worn down in every way with zero family support but I fled to a friend's house with ds.

I still have nightmares to this day.

Jennybeans401 · 09/06/2024 06:05

I've read all the posts here and I feel so sad knowing the terrible experiences we have all had.Love to all.

SunriseMoon · 09/06/2024 06:13

I planned it for when I would be away with the DC without him. Kept a ‘go bag’ hidden in the car in the run up. Called him from a safe distance, told him it was over and that he should leave.

Loveriver · 09/06/2024 06:37

He found posts on here from me. Honestly i was venting as I felt so trapped.

Movingon2024 · 09/06/2024 06:49

I would get some therapy to help untangle your brain if there is gaslighting etc involved.

it is almost harder if it’s narc emotional abuse only, because your mind is scrambled and there’s no defining moment for ‘ok I need to go.’

you can self refer for 6 sessions of talking therapy under the nhs. 6 is not enough but it may give you a start. You’d have to find a reason to leave the house, but if it’s a planned time, may be easier.

otherwise, I’d keep trying women’s aid/local service. When you do get through to the right person, you’ll find the support you need to help you move out.

ThankGodForDancingFruit · 09/06/2024 10:25

I am so angry on your behalf. You are reaching out, and not getting the support you want and need.

Domestic abuse services should give you the option of how you wish to be contacted, including email or text (if these haven’t been compromised).

If you are struggling to stop him checking your messages etc, try going to the GP. Call the service there. Arrange a time and date for them to call you back, and arrange a GP appointment for that time. Stress this is what you are doing, and the importance of them calling then. Your GP can message you a text confirmation of your appointment.

This way you can talk freely in a safe space.

You feel dependent on him because he wants to make you feel this way, and you are bonded because you are walking on eggshells and your emotional wellbeing is tied up in how he treats you.

You are in survival mode, there is nothing ‘wrong’ with you and you don’t need to be ‘fixed’. The only way to address these feelings is to separate. You can’t heal when you are living daily with the very person who is causing the trauma.

You are so very strong - and you can be free.

ThankGodForDancingFruit · 09/06/2024 10:25

Just a thought - Boots Pharmarcies also can offer you a quiet space to talk.

SparkyManga · 09/06/2024 11:27

I left once and came back. Stupid. I used to lie in bed awake next to him dreaming and imaging ways of escaping. I used to silently pray for help.
I had a bag packed in my car for months. Hidden of course.
I had a spare key for my parents house. I left a bag there hidden in their spare room. My mum found it and told me I was stupid for staying and that if I had to have a bag left at hers I should just leave. I didn’t. Stupid again.
Then after he destroyed my phone for like the millionth time. And smashed up the flat. I got out the hidden pay as you go phone I had bought. He had stormed off for effect. I phoned my dad. It was midnight by then. I quickly packed up loads of my things. Woke my sleeping four year old (not his son) and started bundling him into my dad’s car. Idiot came back. He was all sweetness and charm in front of my parents. Saying it was all a misunderstanding.
I still cry that I put my son through that. He’s 17 now and I pray he doesn’t remember that time in our lives. It still shakes me.

my parents helped me report him to the police. He was told to stay away. He ended up breaking the police order and was sent to prison. He sent me controlling letters from prison. I wrote to the prison and got him banned from contacting me. He sent me another letter saying that he had been moved cells due to destroying his other cell. All my fault apparently. We he got out of prison he left a valentines card on my car. I went back to the police. They wanted me to press charges and to formally report the times he raped me to get him sent down again. I didn’t formally report him.
it’s been over 10 years since he’s ever tried to contact me. He still haunts my darkest days.
I’m With my DP for 10yrs now and wish I’d never got involved with idiot.
leave now. Don’t wait. You’ll never regret leaving. You’ll only regret how long you stayed.

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